Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 For those of you interested in UDO's oil, here is a message Karma sent out 6 weeks ago talking about UDO's. I thought you might want to see some of the other potential benefits of the product in addition to what Tami and others have already stated. Barb “Taste and see that the Lord is gracious.” Stop by my web site and see what the Lord has provided for you!http://www.mylinuxisp.com/~appelomega [aSANEsationalYOU] EFA's: the good fats!From: Soli1313@...Hello Again!This post is the continuation of yesterday's 2 part post titled "GainingEssential Health." This post talks about fat. The good kind. :)If this would be the LAST post I could ever post for you, this would be it.This kind of information gets me so excited, I lose sleep! But then, I getexcited about calcium articles, so that doesn't say much. But really!This isgood stuff. And some of this information is going to go completelyagainstyour whole weight loss belief system.The information you read below will affect you in some way, because ofthemany good things essential fatty acid's do. After reading how importantit isfor your body, you will probably think that you need to add this to yourdiet.To whet your whistle, essential fatty acids lower the glycemic index offoods, help acne AND dry skin, increase energy, lift depression, buildmuscle, (the lack thereof) explains postpartum depression, eases withdrawalsymptoms and, And, AND helps with fat reduction, to only name a few.I have heard for years about the importance of essential fatty acids, butdidn't give them that much thought until I read a brief article about 7months ago regarding the sorry state of children's eating habits. And howtheir diets lack or are completely devoid of EFA's (essential fatty acids).But what grabbed me was their utter importance in children's braindevelopment. So, I got a little scared knowing that my children were notgetting any EFA's. I did some research, and found a balanced EFA blendalled Udo's Perfected Oil Blend, recommended by the health food stores Irequent.Since I have a 1 and 4 year old, I immediately started adding this oil totheir food and juice, which was in February, about the same time I>switchedto mostly organic fruits and vegetables.What I find VERY interesting is that at their doctor checkups, which were 1month apart, in ONE MONTH my 1 year old boy grew 1-1/2 inches, and my 4 yearold daughter grew one inch. IN ONE MONTH!The stunned nurse hypothetically asked what I was putting in their water. SoI told her, "Udo's Blend EFA's, plus I switched to organic foods." Shelooked at me as if I were speaking a different language, so I dropped thesubject. Coincidence? Maybe. But I'm not a-changin a thing!! Anyway, here is the lowdown on EFA's (essential fatty acids):ESSENTIAL FATS95% of the population does not get the right kind of fats to keephealthy.With fat phobia and lowfat diets on the upsweep, the problem is gettingworse. In the last 10 years we've lowered fat intake from 42% of calories to 35%,but obesity has increased from 20% to 33% of the population during thattime. And health is not improving.If we lack essential fats, our body falls apart. Literally. Why? Because allcells, tissues, organs, systems and glands must have it to work.The short summary is:Optimum health requires an optimum essential fat supply. We must have ouressential fats. And forget about their calories. ESSENTIAL fats don'tmakeyou fat. Sugars and starches do. More on that later. Essential fats increase energy, improve stamina and performance, build muscle, improve circulation and speed recovery and healing. This holds true for athletes, performance animals, the chronically tired, those too tired to stay fit, older people, those with degenerative conditions, and many others.Some people notice increased energy within 3 days, but it may takelonger. Essential fats are required for growth, cell division and hemoglobin production. They build strong bones.Essential fats improve brain development and brain function. They elevatemood, lift depression, improve behavior, motor coordination, vision and theability to learn, and increase IQ. They calm down hyperactive kids, adults,criminals, and animals. And improve how we deal with stress. Not bad forafat! Our brain which is 60% fat makes us all fat heads. That's a compliment! Essential fats also make up a large part of nerves and eyes. Essential fats are nature's secret for good skin, hair and nails. They help with eczema, psoriasis, acne, dandruff, cracked heals and itchy skin.They help prevent hair loss, poor nail growth, dehydration and dry skin. They replace moisturizers, creams and lotions at a fraction of the cost ofcosmetics without irritating the skin.Essential fats improve digestive function, protect good bowel bacteriaandenhance oil soluble food flavors. (One reason why lowfat foods taste likecardboard.) They help prevent leaky gut, yeast overgrowth, bloating and foodallergies. They ease withdrawal from drugs, alcohol and tobacco. Essential fats protect us from damage from oil soluble toxins in pesticides, and help us sweat them out. Optimums of essential fats protect us from damage by saturated fats. Then we can eat butter, sour cream or whipping creamin moderation without fear. Essential fats lower the glycemic index of foods, slow down glucose absorption, improve insulin function, prevent high sugar/low sugar blues, and helps diabetics and hypoglycemics.Essential fats support liver, kidneys, heart and lungs and make hormonalglands -- like adrenals and thyroid work better.**Important: EF's are required for sperm formation and are key to women'sand children's health. An unborn child draws essential fats from its motherto build its brain. As a result, women are depleted of them, and each childgets less than the preceding one.EF's depletion helps explain postpartum depression, the higher intelligenceof oldest children, behavioral and developmental problems of youngerchildren in large families, and women's greater incidence of depression, MS,lupus, fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, and inflammatory bowel disease. ALLBECAUSE OF DEPLETION.EF's lower high triglycerides and blood pressure, cardiovascular riskfactors. They decrease clot formation and the likelihood of heart attacks,strokes and embolisms. And prevent heart beat abnormalities that can lead tocardiac arrest. One reason why lowfat diets can be dangerous. EF's do not reliably lower cholesterol. Water soluble mucilage fiberdiscussed later is more effective. In addition, EF's can help in a hostofother situations including infections, inflammation including joint pain,auto immune conditions and mineral as well as protein metabolism.Finally, essential fats HELP with fat reduction! Why? They increaseenergyand calorie burning, make us feel like being more active, prevent overeatingby lifting depression, reduce cravings, suppress appetite, help ourkidneydump water held in our tissues, are anti inflammatory and make us feelbetter.Proof of weight loss?11 lbs lost in 7 days using 10 T, or 140 grams daily made national radio inNorway.80 lbs in 6 months on 3 T per day made one woman happy w/o media fanfare.30-50 lbs in a year, using 3-5 T/day is common in people who need to reducebody fat. Most overweight people avoid fats, and crave bread, cakes, cookies,crackers, potatoes, corn, cereals, donuts, muffins, wheat/rye/barley/oat grainproducts, pasta, yams, chips, high carb junk foods, sugar, honey, all syrupsand other sweet stuff.To reduce body fat, eat more greens, get optimum good fats and proteins, andeat less carbs. Get more fiber, enzymes and probiotics, and take amineral/vitamin supplement. Moderation!When using Udo's blend: (We take the liquid.)We need more EF's than oil capsules supply.Optimum: 2-10 T is 28-140 big 1 gram capsules.Seems like a lot of oil? For health, no. 1T is about 5% of daily calories,for nonathletic adults.10T is about 50%. Eskimo people got up to 60% of calories, from unprocessed,essential fat rich oil, and their deaths were not fat related.Most people's daily optimum, indicated by clear, nice skin, falls between2-5 T.Dry skin is nature saying, "eat more essential fats."Capsules can be added to infant formulas, taken to work or on trips.Enhances flavor and food value of fruit, starches, proteins andvegetables -- improving digestion and absorption of their phytonutrients. The blend can be used in cold, warm and hot foods, but should never be fried.Use the blend in salad dressings, soups, steamed veggies, veggie juices anddips, corn or mashed potatoes, instead of butter, oatmeal, cereals,grainsand pasta.(If you get fat, blame the carbs. Remember, that it's important to eatenough carbohydrates for fuel. Anything over that is stored as fat.)Mix it with yogurt, protein, shakes, cottage cheese, fruit juice (we callthis an oil shooter), and whole fruit. Can mix in yolk of soft boiled eggs.Mixing it 50/50 w/ butter or extra virgin olive oil improves theiressential fat profile.Be sure you get the right kind, ratio and amount of fats in your dailyhealth plan.In case you were wondering: Udo's choice perfected (or ultimate) oil blend,contains flax for omega-3, and sunflower and sesame for omega-6 essentialfats. The blend is twice richer in omega-3 than omega-6. Rich and oatgermoils provide important minor ingredients. Unrefined evening primrose oil addGLA. In addition, contains MCT, the good stuff in coconut fat, GMO freelecithin, and natural vitamin E -- mixed alpha, beta and gamma tocopherols.This has a balance of the EFA's we need.My husband and I take 2 T. of Udo's a day. I also sprinkle 1 T. of smashed flax seed on my food a day. My way of eating consists of 70% food combining, low dairy, about 4-8+ cups of raw vegetables a day, and over 1 gallon of water a day. I eat more freshfood than I do concentrated food. (If you want more details of my way ofeating, email me --Soli1313@... -- and I will be happy to send it to you.)People on this list have lost weight because of adding EFA's to their diet. In the first two weeks of my taking Udo's, I lost another 1/2 dress size.So, I guess I can reasonably sign off by saying:May the Good Fats Be With You!JaneenaSANEsationalYOU co-creator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Barb I just want to say that is so true. I have been overweight all my life and I eat a lot of bread, cakes, cookies, >crackers, potatoes, corn, cereals, donuts, muffins, wheat/rye/barley/oat grain >products, pasta, yams, chips, high carb junk foods, sugar, honey, all syrups >and other sweet stuff. I drank pop all the time . I have dandruff and dry bumps on the back of my upper arm. I just started somersizeing a eating program that you eat low carb and drink plenty of water. I have notticed that the skin on my arms is much better. So what I am saying is I totaly agree with you. We need good Fat. I have also lost 12 pounds. Winnie >===== Original Message From " Barb Appel " <bappel@...> ===== >For those of you interested in UDO's oil, here is a message Karma >sent out 6 weeks ago talking about UDO's. I thought you might want >to see some of the other potential benefits of the product in addition >to what Tami and others have already stated. > >Barb > " Taste and see that the Lord is gracious. " Stop by my >web site and see what the Lord has provided for you! >http://www.mylinuxisp.com/~appelomega > > > > [aSANEsationalYOU] EFA's: the good fats! >From: Soli1313@... > >Hello Again! > >This post is the continuation of yesterday's 2 part post titled " Gaining >Essential Health. " This post talks about fat. The good kind. >If this would be the LAST post I could ever post for you, this would be it. >This kind of information gets me so excited, I lose sleep! But then, I get >excited about calcium articles, so that doesn't say much. But really!This is >good stuff. And some of this information is going to go completelyagainst >your whole weight loss belief system. > >The information you read below will affect you in some way, because ofthe >many good things essential fatty acid's do. After reading how importantit is >for your body, you will probably think that you need to add this to your >diet. > >To whet your whistle, essential fatty acids lower the glycemic index of >foods, help acne AND dry skin, increase energy, lift depression, build >muscle, (the lack thereof) explains postpartum depression, eases withdrawal >symptoms and, And, AND helps with fat reduction, to only name a few. > >I have heard for years about the importance of essential fatty acids, but >didn't give them that much thought until I read a brief article about 7 >months ago regarding the sorry state of children's eating habits. And how >their diets lack or are completely devoid of EFA's (essential fatty acids). >But what grabbed me was their utter importance in children's brain >development. So, I got a little scared knowing that my children were not >getting any EFA's. I did some research, and found a balanced EFA blend >alled Udo's Perfected Oil Blend, recommended by the health food stores I >requent. > >Since I have a 1 and 4 year old, I immediately started adding this oil to >their food and juice, which was in February, about the same time I>switched >to mostly organic fruits and vegetables. > >What I find VERY interesting is that at their doctor checkups, which were 1 >month apart, in ONE MONTH my 1 year old boy grew 1-1/2 inches, and my 4 year >old daughter grew one inch. IN ONE MONTH! >The stunned nurse hypothetically asked what I was putting in their water. So >I told her, " Udo's Blend EFA's, plus I switched to organic foods. " She >looked at me as if I were speaking a different language, so I dropped the >subject. Coincidence? Maybe. But I'm not a-changin a thing!! Anyway, here is the lowdown on EFA's (essential fatty acids): > >ESSENTIAL FATS >95% of the population does not get the right kind of fats to keephealthy. >With fat phobia and lowfat diets on the upsweep, the problem is getting >worse. In the last 10 years we've lowered fat intake from 42% of calories to 35%, >but obesity has increased from 20% to 33% of the population during that >time. And health is not improving. > >If we lack essential fats, our body falls apart. Literally. Why? Because all >cells, tissues, organs, systems and glands must have it to work. > >The short summary is: >Optimum health requires an optimum essential fat supply. We must have our >essential fats. And forget about their calories. ESSENTIAL fats don'tmake >you fat. Sugars and starches do. More on that later. Essential fats increase energy, improve stamina and performance, build muscle, improve circulation and speed recovery and healing. This holds true for athletes, performance animals, the chronically tired, those too tired to stay fit, older people, those with degenerative conditions, and many others. > >Some people notice increased energy within 3 days, but it may takelonger. Essential fats are required for growth, cell division and hemoglobin production. They build strong bones. > >Essential fats improve brain development and brain function. They elevate >mood, lift depression, improve behavior, motor coordination, vision and the >ability to learn, and increase IQ. They calm down hyperactive kids, adults, >criminals, and animals. And improve how we deal with stress. Not bad fora >fat! Our brain which is 60% fat makes us all fat heads. That's a compliment! > >Essential fats also make up a large part of nerves and eyes. Essential fats are nature's secret for good skin, hair and nails. They help with eczema, psoriasis, acne, dandruff, cracked heals and itchy skin.They help prevent hair loss, poor nail growth, dehydration and dry skin. They replace moisturizers, creams and lotions at a fraction of the cost of >cosmetics without irritating the skin. > >Essential fats improve digestive function, protect good bowel bacteriaand >enhance oil soluble food flavors. (One reason why lowfat foods taste like >cardboard.) They help prevent leaky gut, yeast overgrowth, bloating and food >allergies. They ease withdrawal from drugs, alcohol and tobacco. Essential fats protect us from damage from oil soluble toxins in pesticides, and help us sweat them out. Optimums of essential fats protect us from damage by saturated fats. Then we can eat butter, sour cream or whipping creamin moderation without fear. > >Essential fats lower the glycemic index of foods, slow down glucose absorption, improve insulin function, prevent high sugar/low sugar blues, and helps diabetics and hypoglycemics. > >Essential fats support liver, kidneys, heart and lungs and make hormonal >glands -- like adrenals and thyroid work better. > >**Important: EF's are required for sperm formation and are key to women's >and children's health. An unborn child draws essential fats from its mother >to build its brain. As a result, women are depleted of them, and each child >gets less than the preceding one. > >EF's depletion helps explain postpartum depression, the higher intelligence >of oldest children, behavioral and developmental problems of younger >children in large families, and women's greater incidence of depression, MS, >lupus, fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, and inflammatory bowel disease. ALL >BECAUSE OF DEPLETION. > >EF's lower high triglycerides and blood pressure, cardiovascular risk >factors. They decrease clot formation and the likelihood of heart attacks, >strokes and embolisms. And prevent heart beat abnormalities that can lead to >cardiac arrest. One reason why lowfat diets can be dangerous. > >EF's do not reliably lower cholesterol. Water soluble mucilage fiber >discussed later is more effective. In addition, EF's can help in a hostof >other situations including infections, inflammation including joint pain, >auto immune conditions and mineral as well as protein metabolism. > >Finally, essential fats HELP with fat reduction! Why? They increaseenergy >and calorie burning, make us feel like being more active, prevent overeating >by lifting depression, reduce cravings, suppress appetite, help ourkidney >dump water held in our tissues, are anti inflammatory and make us feel >better. > >Proof of weight loss? >11 lbs lost in 7 days using 10 T, or 140 grams daily made national radio in >Norway. >80 lbs in 6 months on 3 T per day made one woman happy w/o media fanfare. >30-50 lbs in a year, using 3-5 T/day is common in people who need to reduce >body fat. > >Most overweight people avoid fats, and crave bread, cakes, cookies, >crackers, potatoes, corn, cereals, donuts, muffins, wheat/rye/barley/oat grain >products, pasta, yams, chips, high carb junk foods, sugar, honey, all syrups >and other sweet stuff. > >To reduce body fat, eat more greens, get optimum good fats and proteins, and >eat less carbs. Get more fiber, enzymes and probiotics, and take a >mineral/vitamin supplement. Moderation! > >When using Udo's blend: (We take the liquid.) >We need more EF's than oil capsules supply. >Optimum: 2-10 T is 28-140 big 1 gram capsules. >Seems like a lot of oil? For health, no. 1T is about 5% of daily calories, >for nonathletic adults. > >10T is about 50%. Eskimo people got up to 60% of calories, from unprocessed, >essential fat rich oil, and their deaths were not fat related. > >Most people's daily optimum, indicated by clear, nice skin, falls between >2-5 T. > >Dry skin is nature saying, " eat more essential fats. " >Capsules can be added to infant formulas, taken to work or on trips. >Enhances flavor and food value of fruit, starches, proteins and >vegetables -- improving digestion and absorption of their phytonutrients. The blend can be used in cold, warm and hot foods, but should never be fried. > >Use the blend in salad dressings, soups, steamed veggies, veggie juices and >dips, corn or mashed potatoes, instead of butter, oatmeal, cereals,grains >and pasta. >(If you get fat, blame the carbs. Remember, that it's important to eat >enough carbohydrates for fuel. Anything over that is stored as fat.) >Mix it with yogurt, protein, shakes, cottage cheese, fruit juice (we call >this an oil shooter), and whole fruit. Can mix in yolk of soft boiled eggs. >Mixing it 50/50 w/ butter or extra virgin olive oil improves their >essential fat profile. > >Be sure you get the right kind, ratio and amount of fats in your daily >health plan. > >In case you were wondering: Udo's choice perfected (or ultimate) oil blend, >contains flax for omega-3, and sunflower and sesame for omega-6 essential >fats. The blend is twice richer in omega-3 than omega-6. Rich and oatgerm >oils provide important minor ingredients. Unrefined evening primrose oil add >GLA. In addition, contains MCT, the good stuff in coconut fat, GMO free >lecithin, and natural vitamin E -- mixed alpha, beta and gamma tocopherols. >This has a balance of the EFA's we need. > >My husband and I take 2 T. of Udo's a day. I also sprinkle 1 T. of smashed flax seed on my food a day. My way of eating consists of 70% food combining, low dairy, about 4-8+ cups of raw vegetables a day, and over 1 gallon of water a day. I eat more fresh >food than I do concentrated food. (If you want more details of my way of >eating, email me --Soli1313@... -- and I will be happy to send it to you.) > >People on this list have lost weight because of adding EFA's to their diet. In the first two weeks of my taking Udo's, I lost another 1/2 dress size. > >So, I guess I can reasonably sign off by saying: > >May the Good Fats Be With You! >Janeen >aSANEsationalYOU co-creator > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2000 Report Share Posted May 26, 2000 Dear Winnie, I can really relate! I was a carb addict, too! And have been overweight my whole life. My hair turned out not be dandruff but psoriasis and I had those bumps on my arms, too! The List had a few posts about dry brushing the skin all over the body: go to search this archive and you'll find several posts. I bought a brush ( I got mine at Wal Mart..cocoa fiber) and do it every day before my shower and my skin is SO much better! It exfoliates to some degree but also stimulates the skin to produce or distribute its own oils so much better. In a manner for my hair I dry brush with a natural bristle brush in little circles so as not to tangle and it seems the flakes are much much less... and the itch as well. I hope this helps you...we ARE going to be thin and strong and healthy! Love and Pahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! (hmm, not up to 100, yet! ;>) Libby > Barb > I just want to say that is so true. I have been overweight all my life and I > eat a lot of bread, cakes, cookies, > >crackers, potatoes, corn, cereals, donuts, muffins, wheat/rye/barley/oat > grain > >products, pasta, yams, chips, high carb junk foods, sugar, honey, all syrups > >and other sweet stuff. I drank pop all the time . I have dandruff and dry > bumps on the back of my upper arm. I just started somersizeing a eating > program that you eat low carb and drink plenty of water. I have notticed that > the skin on my arms is much better. So what I am saying is I totaly agree with > you. We need good Fat. I have also lost 12 pounds. > > > Winnie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2000 Report Share Posted May 27, 2000 Dear Libby That will help me alot. My dandruff might be psoriasis too. How did you find out it was psoriasis? I know that a lot of the shampoos I use do not work very well. Winnie ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE web-based e-mail and newsgroup access at: http://MailAndNews.com Create a new mailbox, or access your existing IMAP4 or POP3 mailbox from anywhere with just a web browser. ------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2000 Report Share Posted May 27, 2000 Amen sis BIG:-) {{{HUGS}}} & God bless, Bonnie **********************************************With God, ALL things are possible.********************************************** ..we ARE going to be thin and strong and healthy!Love and Pahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! (hmm, not up to 100, yet! ;>)Libby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2000 Report Share Posted May 27, 2000 Winnie, my husband has flaky scalp, around his eyebrows, nose and in his beard. I started him using a shampoo and conditioner from Nioxin. these are only available through a salon. They were designed for ppl with fine thinning hair, but I found that the shampoo called Bionutrient cleanser for chemically treated hair, and the Scalp Therapy( the conditioner) kept his flaking at a minimum. He even washes his face with it, and uses the Scalp Therapy on his face. It is very moisturizing, very minty and clean and pungent. It is not cheap but worth it. I hope this helps. W in Oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2000 Report Share Posted May 27, 2000 Thank you I will have to try that. Winnie:) >===== Original Message From " DMWEN " <wen88@...> ===== >Winnie, my husband has flaky scalp, around his eyebrows, nose and in his beard. I started him using a shampoo and conditioner from Nioxin. these are only available through a salon. They were designed for ppl with fine thinning hair, but I found that the shampoo called Bionutrient cleanser for chemically treated hair, and the Scalp Therapy( the conditioner) kept his flaking at a minimum. > >He even washes his face with it, and uses the Scalp Therapy on his face. It is very moisturizing, very minty and clean and pungent. It is not cheap but worth it. I hope this helps. > > W in Oz ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE web-based e-mail and newsgroup access at: http://MailAndNews.com Create a new mailbox, or access your existing IMAP4 or POP3 mailbox from anywhere with just a web browser. ------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2000 Report Share Posted May 27, 2000 Dear Winnie, I found out it was psoriasis from 2 sources: my grandmother had it and we had similar skin and an alert hairdresser who KNEW my hair wasn't oily really looked at my scalp and discovered it was almost peeling from the " scales " ...ugh! sounds yucky! I had my hair trimmed today and it makes me look like I have SUCH a wide face now!But my hair is in MUCH better condition, now. love and pahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Libby > Dear Libby > > That will help me alot. My dandruff might be psoriasis too. How did you find > out it was psoriasis? I know that a lot of the shampoos I use do not work very > well. > > Winnie > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your FREE web-based e-mail and newsgroup access at: > http://MailAndNews.com > > Create a new mailbox, or access your existing IMAP4 or > POP3 mailbox from anywhere with just a web browser. > ------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2000 Report Share Posted May 28, 2000 Winnie, i thought of something else. Find a chiropractor who carries the Energique line of homeopathic products, they have a shampoo called Psoragel. It worked great too but that particular chiropractor moved to the west side of the city, we live on the outside of the east side. Good luck, a Pau D' Arco product may work well too. W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Hi folks: This may be helpful: http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/section1/chapter2/2e.jsp http://snipurl.com/7ovu Rodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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