Guest guest Posted July 11, 1999 Report Share Posted July 11, 1999 Dear Sue B., Thanks for your wish that I experience few effects of reducing the prednisone. I feel foolish now, because I have sinced asked the doctor, and he verified what you said that problems usually arise from being on high doses for long periods of time. I have only been on pred and imuran for one month (2 wks at 40mg, and 2 wks at 35mg). I don't think that's a crazy high dose, and definitely not too long. Thanks for easing my mind.... I hope you're feeling well. Are you currently reducing pred as well? >From: " milko " <milko@...> >Reply- onelist >< onelist> >Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:45:41 +1000 > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > >, >You may not have the same problems as Geri and indeed I have experienced >with the withdrawal from pred. How long have you been on pred. I think that >has a lot to do with what withdrawal affects you experience. >Me, personally, I have been on it at high doses for 18 months, my doctor >says that is why the withdrawal is going so rough. >I hope you have only been on high doses for a short while and suffer no >affects. >SueB. > >---------- > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > onelist > > Subject: [ ] Essential Fats > > Date: Sunday, 11 July 1999 6:16 > > > > Dear Geri, > > > > I want to thank you for all your responses. First of all, I'm sorry >that > > > many of your symptoms seem to be the meds. It's too bad that what is so > > necessary to save our lives, can also cause so much discomfort (for lack >of > > a better word)! How is the pain in your mid-section? It sounds >horrible! > > My heart goes out to you. > > > > In regards to the withdrawal from the prednisone, I think I'll be taking >it > > down 5 mg a week. I've been on it for about a month now, and have >reduced > > it 5mg (now at 35mg). I guess we'll see how it goes. I can see maybe > > getting hives like you did, because my body has always broken out in >hives > > when it didn't like something (ie. first time I tried smoking, allergies > > etc). The joint and muscle pain stuff is no fun either. I guess I'll >just > > wait and see what happens. It's crazy that those things can get worse, >when > > you're also told that side effects decrease with the level of pred. Ah > > well. Live and learn...!!! I'm glad that your muscle and joint pain >seems > > to be decreasing. I hope it continues for you, and that 5mg's turns out >to > > be ideal! > > > > On the subject of your salmon dish, it sounds incredible!!! I found an > > article for you on fats which are good for your body. It's interesting >that > > certain fats can also benefit certain Autoimmune disorders, and >inflammatory > > problems! I've attempted to add an attachment, but in case it doesn't >work, > > I'll type in the sight again. This site is an excellent resource for >info > > on all sorts of diet, food, and vitamin supplements. Have fun roaming! > > > > >http://www.healthwell.com/delicious-online/D_Backs/Dec_97/nutadv.cfm?path=hw > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 1999 Report Share Posted July 11, 1999 Hi Lynn, Welcome to the group!! I've been writing on this board for about a month, and I have learned so much here. Everyone is absolutely wonderful...very understanding and informative. I can't tell you what is high, because I don't know either! I'm on 35mg per day of pred, down from 40mg. I know some people have been on 60mg, but other than that I'm very much in the dark as well. I'm glad you asked that question, because I'd like to know too! I look forward to seeing your posts! Take care, >From: Lynn <CEN32195@...> >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats >Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 18:49:30 -0700 > >From: Lynn <CEN32195@...> > >I am new, could you please tell me what a high dose is considered to be for >prednisone? Thanks, Lynn > >milko wrote: > > > From: " milko " <milko@...> > > > > , > > You may not have the same problems as Geri and indeed I have experienced > > with the withdrawal from pred. How long have you been on pred. I think >that > > has a lot to do with what withdrawal affects you experience. > > Me, personally, I have been on it at high doses for 18 months, my doctor > > says that is why the withdrawal is going so rough. > > I hope you have only been on high doses for a short while and suffer no > > affects. > > SueB. > > > > ---------- > > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > > onelist > > > Subject: [ ] Essential Fats > > > Date: Sunday, 11 July 1999 6:16 > > > > > > Dear Geri, > > > > > > I want to thank you for all your responses. First of all, I'm sorry >that > > > > > many of your symptoms seem to be the meds. It's too bad that what is >so > > > necessary to save our lives, can also cause so much discomfort (for >lack > > of > > > a better word)! How is the pain in your mid-section? It sounds > > horrible! > > > My heart goes out to you. > > > > > > In regards to the withdrawal from the prednisone, I think I'll be >taking > > it > > > down 5 mg a week. I've been on it for about a month now, and have > > reduced > > > it 5mg (now at 35mg). I guess we'll see how it goes. I can see maybe > > > getting hives like you did, because my body has always broken out in > > hives > > > when it didn't like something (ie. first time I tried smoking, >allergies > > > etc). The joint and muscle pain stuff is no fun either. I guess I'll > > just > > > wait and see what happens. It's crazy that those things can get >worse, > > when > > > you're also told that side effects decrease with the level of pred. >Ah > > > well. Live and learn...!!! I'm glad that your muscle and joint pain > > seems > > > to be decreasing. I hope it continues for you, and that 5mg's turns >out > > to > > > be ideal! > > > > > > On the subject of your salmon dish, it sounds incredible!!! I found >an > > > article for you on fats which are good for your body. It's >interesting > > that > > > certain fats can also benefit certain Autoimmune disorders, and > > inflammatory > > > problems! I've attempted to add an attachment, but in case it doesn't > > work, > > > I'll type in the sight again. This site is an excellent resource for > > info > > > on all sorts of diet, food, and vitamin supplements. Have fun >roaming! > > > > > > > > >http://www.healthwell.com/delicious-online/D_Backs/Dec_97/nutadv.cfm?path=hw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 1999 Report Share Posted July 12, 1999 , You may not have the same problems as Geri and indeed I have experienced with the withdrawal from pred. How long have you been on pred. I think that has a lot to do with what withdrawal affects you experience. Me, personally, I have been on it at high doses for 18 months, my doctor says that is why the withdrawal is going so rough. I hope you have only been on high doses for a short while and suffer no affects. SueB. ---------- > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > onelist > Subject: [ ] Essential Fats > Date: Sunday, 11 July 1999 6:16 > > Dear Geri, > > I want to thank you for all your responses. First of all, I'm sorry that > many of your symptoms seem to be the meds. It's too bad that what is so > necessary to save our lives, can also cause so much discomfort (for lack of > a better word)! How is the pain in your mid-section? It sounds horrible! > My heart goes out to you. > > In regards to the withdrawal from the prednisone, I think I'll be taking it > down 5 mg a week. I've been on it for about a month now, and have reduced > it 5mg (now at 35mg). I guess we'll see how it goes. I can see maybe > getting hives like you did, because my body has always broken out in hives > when it didn't like something (ie. first time I tried smoking, allergies > etc). The joint and muscle pain stuff is no fun either. I guess I'll just > wait and see what happens. It's crazy that those things can get worse, when > you're also told that side effects decrease with the level of pred. Ah > well. Live and learn...!!! I'm glad that your muscle and joint pain seems > to be decreasing. I hope it continues for you, and that 5mg's turns out to > be ideal! > > On the subject of your salmon dish, it sounds incredible!!! I found an > article for you on fats which are good for your body. It's interesting that > certain fats can also benefit certain Autoimmune disorders, and inflammatory > problems! I've attempted to add an attachment, but in case it doesn't work, > I'll type in the sight again. This site is an excellent resource for info > on all sorts of diet, food, and vitamin supplements. Have fun roaming! > > http://www.healthwell.com/delicious-online/D_Backs/Dec_97/nutadv.cfm?path=hw > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 1999 Report Share Posted July 12, 1999 I am new, could you please tell me what a high dose is considered to be for prednisone? Thanks, Lynn milko wrote: > From: " milko " <milko@...> > > , > You may not have the same problems as Geri and indeed I have experienced > with the withdrawal from pred. How long have you been on pred. I think that > has a lot to do with what withdrawal affects you experience. > Me, personally, I have been on it at high doses for 18 months, my doctor > says that is why the withdrawal is going so rough. > I hope you have only been on high doses for a short while and suffer no > affects. > SueB. > > ---------- > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > onelist > > Subject: [ ] Essential Fats > > Date: Sunday, 11 July 1999 6:16 > > > > Dear Geri, > > > > I want to thank you for all your responses. First of all, I'm sorry that > > > many of your symptoms seem to be the meds. It's too bad that what is so > > necessary to save our lives, can also cause so much discomfort (for lack > of > > a better word)! How is the pain in your mid-section? It sounds > horrible! > > My heart goes out to you. > > > > In regards to the withdrawal from the prednisone, I think I'll be taking > it > > down 5 mg a week. I've been on it for about a month now, and have > reduced > > it 5mg (now at 35mg). I guess we'll see how it goes. I can see maybe > > getting hives like you did, because my body has always broken out in > hives > > when it didn't like something (ie. first time I tried smoking, allergies > > etc). The joint and muscle pain stuff is no fun either. I guess I'll > just > > wait and see what happens. It's crazy that those things can get worse, > when > > you're also told that side effects decrease with the level of pred. Ah > > well. Live and learn...!!! I'm glad that your muscle and joint pain > seems > > to be decreasing. I hope it continues for you, and that 5mg's turns out > to > > be ideal! > > > > On the subject of your salmon dish, it sounds incredible!!! I found an > > article for you on fats which are good for your body. It's interesting > that > > certain fats can also benefit certain Autoimmune disorders, and > inflammatory > > problems! I've attempted to add an attachment, but in case it doesn't > work, > > I'll type in the sight again. This site is an excellent resource for > info > > on all sorts of diet, food, and vitamin supplements. Have fun roaming! > > > > > http://www.healthwell.com/delicious-online/D_Backs/Dec_97/nutadv.cfm?path=hw > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 Congratulations on getting down to 5mg Sue! It does sound like a very difficult thing to do, when you've been on pred for so long. I'll let you know how my reduction goes, if I ever get the chance to talk to my doctor! We're communicating via telephone, but we've been missing each other for over a week now. I think she was probably calling to tell me to taper last Monday (since my levels were down), but she won't leave a message, so I haven't been able to. Very frustrating. Ah well...the wonderful medical process wields it's ugly head yet again! >From: " milko " <milko@...> >Reply- onelist >< onelist> >Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:16:06 +1000 > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > >, >Yes, I am currently reducing. I am down to 5mg and am very proud of myself. >It is not an easy thing to do (I have found out), but I want off these >drugs asap. Thanks for asking. I hope you go well with your reducing, let >me know won't you I will be interested to hear of your progress. >SueB. > >---------- > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > onelist > > Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats > > Date: Monday, 12 July 1999 13:44 > > > > From: " emily simpson " <esimpson7@...> > > > > Dear Sue B., > > > > Thanks for your wish that I experience few effects of reducing the > > prednisone. I feel foolish now, because I have sinced asked the doctor, >and > > he verified what you said that problems usually arise from being on high > > doses for long periods of time. I have only been on pred and imuran for >one > > month (2 wks at 40mg, and 2 wks at 35mg). I don't think that's a crazy >high > > dose, and definitely not too long. Thanks for easing my mind.... I hope > > you're feeling well. Are you currently reducing pred as well? > > > > > > > > > > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > > >Reply- onelist > > >< onelist> > > >Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats > > >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:45:41 +1000 > > > > > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > > > > > >, > > >You may not have the same problems as Geri and indeed I have >experienced > > >with the withdrawal from pred. How long have you been on pred. I think >that > > >has a lot to do with what withdrawal affects you experience. > > >Me, personally, I have been on it at high doses for 18 months, my >doctor > > >says that is why the withdrawal is going so rough. > > >I hope you have only been on high doses for a short while and suffer no > > >affects. > > >SueB. > > > > > >---------- > > > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > > > onelist > > > > Subject: [ ] Essential Fats > > > > Date: Sunday, 11 July 1999 6:16 > > > > > > > > Dear Geri, > > > > > > > > I want to thank you for all your responses. First of all, I'm sorry > > >that > > > > > > > many of your symptoms seem to be the meds. It's too bad that what >is >so > > > > necessary to save our lives, can also cause so much discomfort (for >lack > > >of > > > > a better word)! How is the pain in your mid-section? It sounds > > >horrible! > > > > My heart goes out to you. > > > > > > > > In regards to the withdrawal from the prednisone, I think I'll be >taking > > >it > > > > down 5 mg a week. I've been on it for about a month now, and have > > >reduced > > > > it 5mg (now at 35mg). I guess we'll see how it goes. I can see >maybe > > > > getting hives like you did, because my body has always broken out in > > >hives > > > > when it didn't like something (ie. first time I tried smoking, >allergies > > > > etc). The joint and muscle pain stuff is no fun either. I guess >I'll > > >just > > > > wait and see what happens. It's crazy that those things can get >worse, > > >when > > > > you're also told that side effects decrease with the level of pred. >Ah > > > > well. Live and learn...!!! I'm glad that your muscle and joint >pain > > >seems > > > > to be decreasing. I hope it continues for you, and that 5mg's turns >out > > >to > > > > be ideal! > > > > > > > > On the subject of your salmon dish, it sounds incredible!!! I found >an > > > > article for you on fats which are good for your body. It's >interesting > > >that > > > > certain fats can also benefit certain Autoimmune disorders, and > > >inflammatory > > > > problems! I've attempted to add an attachment, but in case it >doesn't > > >work, > > > > I'll type in the sight again. This site is an excellent resource >for > > >info > > > > on all sorts of diet, food, and vitamin supplements. Have fun >roaming! > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.healthwell.com/delicious-online/D_Backs/Dec_97/nutadv.cfm?path=h >w > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 Lyn, My personal high dose for pred. was 60mg twice a day at the very beginning. SueB. ---------- > From: Lynn <CEN32195@...> > onelist > Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats > Date: Monday, 12 July 1999 11:49 > > From: Lynn <CEN32195@...> > > I am new, could you please tell me what a high dose is considered to be for > prednisone? Thanks, Lynn > > milko wrote: > > > From: " milko " <milko@...> > > > > , > > You may not have the same problems as Geri and indeed I have experienced > > with the withdrawal from pred. How long have you been on pred. I think that > > has a lot to do with what withdrawal affects you experience. > > Me, personally, I have been on it at high doses for 18 months, my doctor > > says that is why the withdrawal is going so rough. > > I hope you have only been on high doses for a short while and suffer no > > affects. > > SueB. > > > > ---------- > > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > > onelist > > > Subject: [ ] Essential Fats > > > Date: Sunday, 11 July 1999 6:16 > > > > > > Dear Geri, > > > > > > I want to thank you for all your responses. First of all, I'm sorry that > > > > > many of your symptoms seem to be the meds. It's too bad that what is so > > > necessary to save our lives, can also cause so much discomfort (for lack > > of > > > a better word)! How is the pain in your mid-section? It sounds > > horrible! > > > My heart goes out to you. > > > > > > In regards to the withdrawal from the prednisone, I think I'll be taking > > it > > > down 5 mg a week. I've been on it for about a month now, and have > > reduced > > > it 5mg (now at 35mg). I guess we'll see how it goes. I can see maybe > > > getting hives like you did, because my body has always broken out in > > hives > > > when it didn't like something (ie. first time I tried smoking, allergies > > > etc). The joint and muscle pain stuff is no fun either. I guess I'll > > just > > > wait and see what happens. It's crazy that those things can get worse, > > when > > > you're also told that side effects decrease with the level of pred. Ah > > > well. Live and learn...!!! I'm glad that your muscle and joint pain > > seems > > > to be decreasing. I hope it continues for you, and that 5mg's turns out > > to > > > be ideal! > > > > > > On the subject of your salmon dish, it sounds incredible!!! I found an > > > article for you on fats which are good for your body. It's interesting > > that > > > certain fats can also benefit certain Autoimmune disorders, and > > inflammatory > > > problems! I've attempted to add an attachment, but in case it doesn't > > work, > > > I'll type in the sight again. This site is an excellent resource for > > info > > > on all sorts of diet, food, and vitamin supplements. Have fun roaming! > > > > > > > > http://www.healthwell.com/delicious-online/D_Backs/Dec_97/nutadv.cfm?path=hw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 1999 Report Share Posted July 13, 1999 , Yes, I am currently reducing. I am down to 5mg and am very proud of myself. It is not an easy thing to do (I have found out), but I want off these drugs asap. Thanks for asking. I hope you go well with your reducing, let me know won't you I will be interested to hear of your progress. SueB. ---------- > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > onelist > Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats > Date: Monday, 12 July 1999 13:44 > > From: " emily simpson " <esimpson7@...> > > Dear Sue B., > > Thanks for your wish that I experience few effects of reducing the > prednisone. I feel foolish now, because I have sinced asked the doctor, and > he verified what you said that problems usually arise from being on high > doses for long periods of time. I have only been on pred and imuran for one > month (2 wks at 40mg, and 2 wks at 35mg). I don't think that's a crazy high > dose, and definitely not too long. Thanks for easing my mind.... I hope > you're feeling well. Are you currently reducing pred as well? > > > > > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > >Reply- onelist > >< onelist> > >Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats > >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:45:41 +1000 > > > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > > > >, > >You may not have the same problems as Geri and indeed I have experienced > >with the withdrawal from pred. How long have you been on pred. I think that > >has a lot to do with what withdrawal affects you experience. > >Me, personally, I have been on it at high doses for 18 months, my doctor > >says that is why the withdrawal is going so rough. > >I hope you have only been on high doses for a short while and suffer no > >affects. > >SueB. > > > >---------- > > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > > onelist > > > Subject: [ ] Essential Fats > > > Date: Sunday, 11 July 1999 6:16 > > > > > > Dear Geri, > > > > > > I want to thank you for all your responses. First of all, I'm sorry > >that > > > > > many of your symptoms seem to be the meds. It's too bad that what is so > > > necessary to save our lives, can also cause so much discomfort (for lack > >of > > > a better word)! How is the pain in your mid-section? It sounds > >horrible! > > > My heart goes out to you. > > > > > > In regards to the withdrawal from the prednisone, I think I'll be taking > >it > > > down 5 mg a week. I've been on it for about a month now, and have > >reduced > > > it 5mg (now at 35mg). I guess we'll see how it goes. I can see maybe > > > getting hives like you did, because my body has always broken out in > >hives > > > when it didn't like something (ie. first time I tried smoking, allergies > > > etc). The joint and muscle pain stuff is no fun either. I guess I'll > >just > > > wait and see what happens. It's crazy that those things can get worse, > >when > > > you're also told that side effects decrease with the level of pred. Ah > > > well. Live and learn...!!! I'm glad that your muscle and joint pain > >seems > > > to be decreasing. I hope it continues for you, and that 5mg's turns out > >to > > > be ideal! > > > > > > On the subject of your salmon dish, it sounds incredible!!! I found an > > > article for you on fats which are good for your body. It's interesting > >that > > > certain fats can also benefit certain Autoimmune disorders, and > >inflammatory > > > problems! I've attempted to add an attachment, but in case it doesn't > >work, > > > I'll type in the sight again. This site is an excellent resource for > >info > > > on all sorts of diet, food, and vitamin supplements. Have fun roaming! > > > > > > > >http://www.healthwell.com/delicious-online/D_Backs/Dec_97/nutadv.cfm?path=h w > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 1999 Report Share Posted July 14, 1999 , I will wait and hope for good results from your doc. SueB. ---------- > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > onelist > Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats > Date: Wednesday, 14 July 1999 3:27 > > From: " emily simpson " <esimpson7@...> > > Congratulations on getting down to 5mg Sue! > > It does sound like a very difficult thing to do, when you've been on pred > for so long. I'll let you know how my reduction goes, if I ever get the > chance to talk to my doctor! We're communicating via telephone, but we've > been missing each other for over a week now. I think she was probably > calling to tell me to taper last Monday (since my levels were down), but she > won't leave a message, so I haven't been able to. Very frustrating. Ah > well...the wonderful medical process wields it's ugly head yet again! > > > > > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > >Reply- onelist > >< onelist> > >Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats > >Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:16:06 +1000 > > > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > > > >, > >Yes, I am currently reducing. I am down to 5mg and am very proud of myself. > >It is not an easy thing to do (I have found out), but I want off these > >drugs asap. Thanks for asking. I hope you go well with your reducing, let > >me know won't you I will be interested to hear of your progress. > >SueB. > > > >---------- > > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > > onelist > > > Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats > > > Date: Monday, 12 July 1999 13:44 > > > > > > From: " emily simpson " <esimpson7@...> > > > > > > Dear Sue B., > > > > > > Thanks for your wish that I experience few effects of reducing the > > > prednisone. I feel foolish now, because I have sinced asked the doctor, > >and > > > he verified what you said that problems usually arise from being on high > > > doses for long periods of time. I have only been on pred and imuran for > >one > > > month (2 wks at 40mg, and 2 wks at 35mg). I don't think that's a crazy > >high > > > dose, and definitely not too long. Thanks for easing my mind.... I hope > > > you're feeling well. Are you currently reducing pred as well? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > > > >Reply- onelist > > > >< onelist> > > > >Subject: Re: [ ] Essential Fats > > > >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:45:41 +1000 > > > > > > > >From: " milko " <milko@...> > > > > > > > >, > > > >You may not have the same problems as Geri and indeed I have > >experienced > > > >with the withdrawal from pred. How long have you been on pred. I think > >that > > > >has a lot to do with what withdrawal affects you experience. > > > >Me, personally, I have been on it at high doses for 18 months, my > >doctor > > > >says that is why the withdrawal is going so rough. > > > >I hope you have only been on high doses for a short while and suffer no > > > >affects. > > > >SueB. > > > > > > > >---------- > > > > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > > > > onelist > > > > > Subject: [ ] Essential Fats > > > > > Date: Sunday, 11 July 1999 6:16 > > > > > > > > > > Dear Geri, > > > > > > > > > > I want to thank you for all your responses. First of all, I'm sorry > > > >that > > > > > > > > > many of your symptoms seem to be the meds. It's too bad that what > >is > >so > > > > > necessary to save our lives, can also cause so much discomfort (for > >lack > > > >of > > > > > a better word)! How is the pain in your mid-section? It sounds > > > >horrible! > > > > > My heart goes out to you. > > > > > > > > > > In regards to the withdrawal from the prednisone, I think I'll be > >taking > > > >it > > > > > down 5 mg a week. I've been on it for about a month now, and have > > > >reduced > > > > > it 5mg (now at 35mg). I guess we'll see how it goes. I can see > >maybe > > > > > getting hives like you did, because my body has always broken out in > > > >hives > > > > > when it didn't like something (ie. first time I tried smoking, > >allergies > > > > > etc). The joint and muscle pain stuff is no fun either. I guess > >I'll > > > >just > > > > > wait and see what happens. It's crazy that those things can get > >worse, > > > >when > > > > > you're also told that side effects decrease with the level of pred. > >Ah > > > > > well. Live and learn...!!! I'm glad that your muscle and joint > >pain > > > >seems > > > > > to be decreasing. I hope it continues for you, and that 5mg's turns > >out > > > >to > > > > > be ideal! > > > > > > > > > > On the subject of your salmon dish, it sounds incredible!!! I found > >an > > > > > article for you on fats which are good for your body. It's > >interesting > > > >that > > > > > certain fats can also benefit certain Autoimmune disorders, and > > > >inflammatory > > > > > problems! I've attempted to add an attachment, but in case it > >doesn't > > > >work, > > > > > I'll type in the sight again. This site is an excellent resource > >for > > > >info > > > > > on all sorts of diet, food, and vitamin supplements. Have fun > >roaming! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.healthwell.com/delicious-online/D_Backs/Dec_97/nutadv.cfm?path=h > >w > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 1999 Report Share Posted July 14, 1999 " Coping with Prednisone " by Eugenia Zukerman, indicates as follows: Low Dose: 5-15 mg./day Moderate Dose: 0.5 mg per kilogram of body weight per day High dose: 1-3 mg per kilogram of body weight per day Massive dose: 15-30 mg per kilogram of body weight per day I know people have mentioned her book before but I really love it and it helps increase my sense of control over my life to follow some of the suggestions and do what I can for myself. Also great descriptions of side effects in plain English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 1999 Report Share Posted July 15, 1999 I have also read that book, very very good, I got mine from the local library , but I would like to purchase it. I think I will look at & Noble when I get to Mankato On Friday. TTFN Lori C. Re: [ ] Essential Fats >From: " Lib Dale " <libdale@...> > > " Coping with Prednisone " by Eugenia Zukerman, indicates as follows: > >Low Dose: 5-15 mg./day > >Moderate Dose: 0.5 mg per kilogram of body weight per day > >High dose: 1-3 mg per kilogram of body weight per day > >Massive dose: 15-30 mg per kilogram of body weight per day > >I know people have mentioned her book before but I really love it and it >helps increase my sense of control over my life to follow some of the >suggestions and do what I can for myself. Also great descriptions of side >effects in plain English. > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Oh, Karma, I liked your description better. I actually paid attention. You are the one who got me on UDO's in the first place. I haven't decided if taking them has helped my brain any. I think maybe if I slept more, I could tell.LOL. Love you dearly, Rashelle Be sure to check out all of the great specials available on my web sites. Save $30 on the Large Body Wrap package until April 30thVisit us at http://www.lifelift.com or http://www.angelmagic.com. All other web sites belong to distributors, these are my personal web sites.Join our discussion group at LifeLift-subscribe@... [aSANEsationalYOU] EFA's: the good fats!From: Soli1313@...Hello Again!This post is the continuation of yesterday's 2 part post titled "GainingEssential Health." This post talks about fat. The good kind. :)If this would be the LAST post I could ever post for you, this would be it.This kind of information gets me so excited, I lose sleep! But then, I getexcited about calcium articles, so that doesn't say much. But really!This isgood stuff. And some of this information is going to go completelyagainstyour whole weight loss belief system.The information you read below will affect you in some way, because ofthemany good things essential fatty acid's do. After reading how importantit isfor your body, you will probably think that you need to add this to yourdiet.To whet your whistle, essential fatty acids lower the glycemic index offoods, help acne AND dry skin, increase energy, lift depression, buildmuscle, (the lack thereof) explains postpartum depression, eases withdrawalsymptoms and, And, AND helps with fat reduction, to only name a few.I have heard for years about the importance of essential fatty acids, butdidn't give them that much thought until I read a brief article about 7months ago regarding the sorry state of children's eating habits. And howtheir diets lack or are completely devoid of EFA's (essential fatty acids).But what grabbed me was their utter importance in children's braindevelopment. So, I got a little scared knowing that my children were notgetting any EFA's. I did some research, and found a balanced EFA blendalled Udo's Perfected Oil Blend, recommended by the health food stores Irequent.Since I have a 1 and 4 year old, I immediately started adding this oil totheir food and juice, which was in February, about the same time I>switchedto mostly organic fruits and vegetables.What I find VERY interesting is that at their doctor checkups, which were 1month apart, in ONE MONTH my 1 year old boy grew 1-1/2 inches, and my 4 yearold daughter grew one inch. IN ONE MONTH!The stunned nurse hypothetically asked what I was putting in their water. SoI told her, "Udo's Blend EFA's, plus I switched to organic foods." Shelooked at me as if I were speaking a different language, so I dropped thesubject. Coincidence? Maybe. But I'm not a-changin a thing!! Anyway, here is the lowdown on EFA's (essential fatty acids):ESSENTIAL FATS95% of the population does not get the right kind of fats to keephealthy.With fat phobia and lowfat diets on the upsweep, the problem is gettingworse. In the last 10 years we've lowered fat intake from 42% of calories to 35%,but obesity has increased from 20% to 33% of the population during thattime. And health is not improving.If we lack essential fats, our body falls apart. Literally. Why? Because allcells, tissues, organs, systems and glands must have it to work.The short summary is:Optimum health requires an optimum essential fat supply. We must have ouressential fats. And forget about their calories. ESSENTIAL fats don'tmakeyou fat. Sugars and starches do. More on that later. Essential fats increase energy, improve stamina and performance, build muscle, improve circulation and speed recovery and healing. This holds true for athletes, performance animals, the chronically tired, those too tired to stay fit, older people, those with degenerative conditions, and many others.Some people notice increased energy within 3 days, but it may takelonger. Essential fats are required for growth, cell division and hemoglobin production. They build strong bones.Essential fats improve brain development and brain function. They elevatemood, lift depression, improve behavior, motor coordination, vision and theability to learn, and increase IQ. They calm down hyperactive kids, adults,criminals, and animals. And improve how we deal with stress. Not bad forafat! Our brain which is 60% fat makes us all fat heads. That's a compliment! Essential fats also make up a large part of nerves and eyes. Essential fats are nature's secret for good skin, hair and nails. They help with eczema, psoriasis, acne, dandruff, cracked heals and itchy skin.They help prevent hair loss, poor nail growth, dehydration and dry skin. They replace moisturizers, creams and lotions at a fraction of the cost ofcosmetics without irritating the skin.Essential fats improve digestive function, protect good bowel bacteriaandenhance oil soluble food flavors. (One reason why lowfat foods taste likecardboard.) They help prevent leaky gut, yeast overgrowth, bloating and foodallergies. They ease withdrawal from drugs, alcohol and tobacco. Essential fats protect us from damage from oil soluble toxins in pesticides, and help us sweat them out. Optimums of essential fats protect us from damage by saturated fats. Then we can eat butter, sour cream or whipping creamin moderation without fear. Essential fats lower the glycemic index of foods, slow down glucose absorption, improve insulin function, prevent high sugar/low sugar blues, and helps diabetics and hypoglycemics.Essential fats support liver, kidneys, heart and lungs and make hormonalglands -- like adrenals and thyroid work better.**Important: EF's are required for sperm formation and are key to women'sand children's health. An unborn child draws essential fats from its motherto build its brain. As a result, women are depleted of them, and each childgets less than the preceding one.EF's depletion helps explain postpartum depression, the higher intelligenceof oldest children, behavioral and developmental problems of youngerchildren in large families, and women's greater incidence of depression, MS,lupus, fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, and inflammatory bowel disease. ALLBECAUSE OF DEPLETION.EF's lower high triglycerides and blood pressure, cardiovascular riskfactors. They decrease clot formation and the likelihood of heart attacks,strokes and embolisms. And prevent heart beat abnormalities that can lead tocardiac arrest. One reason why lowfat diets can be dangerous. EF's do not reliably lower cholesterol. Water soluble mucilage fiberdiscussed later is more effective. In addition, EF's can help in a hostofother situations including infections, inflammation including joint pain,auto immune conditions and mineral as well as protein metabolism.Finally, essential fats HELP with fat reduction! Why? They increaseenergyand calorie burning, make us feel like being more active, prevent overeatingby lifting depression, reduce cravings, suppress appetite, help ourkidneydump water held in our tissues, are anti inflammatory and make us feelbetter.Proof of weight loss?11 lbs lost in 7 days using 10 T, or 140 grams daily made national radio inNorway.80 lbs in 6 months on 3 T per day made one woman happy w/o media fanfare.30-50 lbs in a year, using 3-5 T/day is common in people who need to reducebody fat. Most overweight people avoid fats, and crave bread, cakes, cookies,crackers, potatoes, corn, cereals, donuts, muffins, wheat/rye/barley/oat grainproducts, pasta, yams, chips, high carb junk foods, sugar, honey, all syrupsand other sweet stuff.To reduce body fat, eat more greens, get optimum good fats and proteins, andeat less carbs. Get more fiber, enzymes and probiotics, and take amineral/vitamin supplement. Moderation!When using Udo's blend: (We take the liquid.)We need more EF's than oil capsules supply.Optimum: 2-10 T is 28-140 big 1 gram capsules.Seems like a lot of oil? For health, no. 1T is about 5% of daily calories,for nonathletic adults.10T is about 50%. Eskimo people got up to 60% of calories, from unprocessed,essential fat rich oil, and their deaths were not fat related.Most people's daily optimum, indicated by clear, nice skin, falls between2-5 T.Dry skin is nature saying, "eat more essential fats."Capsules can be added to infant formulas, taken to work or on trips.Enhances flavor and food value of fruit, starches, proteins andvegetables -- improving digestion and absorption of their phytonutrients. The blend can be used in cold, warm and hot foods, but should never be fried.Use the blend in salad dressings, soups, steamed veggies, veggie juices anddips, corn or mashed potatoes, instead of butter, oatmeal, cereals,grainsand pasta.(If you get fat, blame the carbs. Remember, that it's important to eatenough carbohydrates for fuel. Anything over that is stored as fat.)Mix it with yogurt, protein, shakes, cottage cheese, fruit juice (we callthis an oil shooter), and whole fruit. Can mix in yolk of soft boiled eggs.Mixing it 50/50 w/ butter or extra virgin olive oil improves theiressential fat profile.Be sure you get the right kind, ratio and amount of fats in your dailyhealth plan.In case you were wondering: Udo's choice perfected (or ultimate) oil blend,contains flax for omega-3, and sunflower and sesame for omega-6 essentialfats. The blend is twice richer in omega-3 than omega-6. Rich and oatgermoils provide important minor ingredients. Unrefined evening primrose oil addGLA. In addition, contains MCT, the good stuff in coconut fat, GMO freelecithin, and natural vitamin E -- mixed alpha, beta and gamma tocopherols.This has a balance of the EFA's we need.My husband and I take 2 T. of Udo's a day. I also sprinkle 1 T. of smashed flax seed on my food a day. My way of eating consists of 70% food combining, low dairy, about 4-8+ cups of raw vegetables a day, and over 1 gallon of water a day. I eat more freshfood than I do concentrated food. (If you want more details of my way ofeating, email me --Soli1313@... -- and I will be happy to send it to you.)People on this list have lost weight because of adding EFA's to their diet. In the first two weeks of my taking Udo's, I lost another 1/2 dress size.So, I guess I can reasonably sign off by saying:May the Good Fats Be With You!JaneenaSANEsationalYOU co-creator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 So, Do I just go to a health food store or GNC and ask for UDO's? Any particular brand or is this the name of the brand? I'm confused. I need the exact name or I will mess up and get the wrong thing. Thanks, Cristi (obviously blonde)heehee >In case you were wondering: Udo's choice perfected >or ultimate) oil blend, >contains flax for omega-3, and sunflower and sesame >for omega-6 essential >fats. The blend is twice richer in omega-3 than omega->6. Rich and oatgerm >oils provide important minor ingredients. Unrefined >evening primrose oil add GLA. In addition, contains MCT, the good stuff in coconut fat, GMO free lecithin, and natural vitamin E -- mixed alpha, beta and gamma tocopherols. This has a balance of the EFA's we need. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Cristi, I couldn't find it in a local health food store. I ordered it from vitamins.com. Need to search for Flora on their page, and then you get to Udo's Essential Oils. Options of liquid and capsules. If you haven't ordered from them before, you can get $15 off (I think that's what it was) if you order over a certain amount. Anyway, I spent less than $10 for my first bottle. Good luck, Melodie (another blonde) On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 05:51:40 -0700 (PDT) cg <cgissell@...> writes: >So, Do I just go to a health food store or GNC and ask >for UDO's? Any particular brand or is this the name >of the brand? I'm confused. I need the exact name or >I will mess up and get the wrong thing. >Thanks, Cristi (obviously blonde)heehee > >>In case you were wondering: Udo's choice perfected >>or ultimate) oil blend, >>contains flax for omega-3, and sunflower and sesame >>for omega-6 essential >>fats. The blend is twice richer in omega-3 than >omega->6. Rich and oatgerm >>oils provide important minor ingredients. Unrefined >>evening primrose oil add >GLA. In addition, contains MCT, the good stuff in >coconut fat, GMO free >lecithin, and natural vitamin E -- mixed alpha, beta >and gamma tocopherols. >This has a balance of the EFA's we need. > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 You can buy it from a natural foods store. GNC doesn't carry it. UDO's Essential Blend Oil is the name of it. I buy mine from http://www.vitamins.com or http://www.vitaminshoppe.com It seems that you must do a search for Flora to have it come up as a choice from these web sites. If you are a first time customer of vitamins.com then you will get a $15.00 off coupon automatically when you check out. That makes a large bottle about $1.70 including shipping. This is the best way to try your first bottle in my opinion. I personally like the taste, but, it IS an acquired taste! ~KarmaPlease visit my new Web Site for Zone Profileshttp://loaves-n-fishes.com/zoneprofiles.html Re: Essential Fats So, Do I just go to a health food store or GNC and askfor UDO's? Any particular brand or is this the nameof the brand? I'm confused. I need the exact name orI will mess up and get the wrong thing.Thanks, Cristi (obviously blonde)heehee>In case you were wondering: Udo's choice perfected >or ultimate) oil blend,>contains flax for omega-3, and sunflower and sesame>for omega-6 essential>fats. The blend is twice richer in omega-3 thanomega->6. Rich and oatgerm>oils provide important minor ingredients. Unrefined>evening primrose oil addGLA. In addition, contains MCT, the good stuff incoconut fat, GMO freelecithin, and natural vitamin E -- mixed alpha, betaand gamma tocopherols.This has a balance of the EFA's we need.__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2000 Report Share Posted April 14, 2000 Ok I must be blind too. I can't find it on Vitamins.com. I found Flora, below was the list under Flora. Which one do I want to find UDO's. Thanks Rhona (another blonde) Calcium Calcium-Magnesium Children's Multivitamin Digestive Enzyme Blend Epresat Multivitamin Flor-Essence Floravital Iron Plus Herbs Iron + Herbs Kinder Love Children's Multivitamin Magnesium Perfected Oil Blend Perfected Oil Blend Pure Golden Vitality Flax Oil Wholesome Fast Food Blend If you are interested in FREE cash and other things see the links below. Get $20 cash plus money for referrals. Act fast you can get a $75 bonus for 5 referrals by April 15. It is free to join! <A HREF= " http://209.250.128.150/survey/ " >Clickhere-myemag.com</A> Please use my User ID# 10045806 and e-mail Rhona123@... Get a FREE DVD player for signing up for this Free instant messenger service and telling your friends. <A HREF= " http://www.ikena.com/downloads/?refCID=rhona1 " >ClickHere-iKena-</A> Get $.50 an hour for the time you spend on the internet with <A HREF= " http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=bsh196 " >AllAdvantage.com!</A> I have others, if you are interested in more email me and I will send them to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2000 Report Share Posted April 14, 2000 You want the perfected oil blend ~KarmaPlease visit my new Web Site for Zone Diet Personal Diet Profileshttp://loaves-n-fishes.com/zoneprofiles.html Ok I must be blind too. I can't find it on Vitamins.com. I found Flora, below was the list under Flora. Which one do I want to find UDO's. ThanksRhona (another blonde)CalciumCalcium-MagnesiumChildren's MultivitaminDigestive Enzyme BlendEpresat MultivitaminFlor-EssenceFloravital Iron Plus HerbsIron + HerbsKinder Love Children's MultivitaminMagnesiumPerfected Oil BlendPerfected Oil BlendPure Golden Vitality Flax OilWholesome Fast Food BlendIf you are interested in FREE cash and other things see the links below. Get $20 cash plus money for referrals. Act fast you can get a $75 bonus for 5 referrals by April 15. It is free to join! <A HREF="http://209.250.128.150/survey/">Clickhere-myemag.com</A> Please use my User ID# 10045806and e-mail Rhona123@... Get a FREE DVD player for signing up for this Free instant messenger service and telling your friends. <A HREF="http://www.ikena.com/downloads/?refCID=rhona1">ClickHere-iKena-</A>Get $.50 an hour for the time you spend on the internet with <A HREF="http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=bsh196">AllAdvantage.com!</A>I have others, if you are interested in more email me and I will send them to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2000 Report Share Posted April 15, 2000 Thanks so much Karma. This info. is great. Starr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Thanks, Except "Essential fatty acids (EFAs) include linoleic acid and arachidonic acid, which are -6 (n-6) fatty acids, and linolenic acid, eicosapentaenoic acid, and docosahexaenoic acid, which are -3 (n-3) fatty acids (see also Ch. 1). In the body, arachidonic acid can be made from linoleic acid, and eicosapentaenoic and docosahexaenoic acids can be made from linolenic acid. Vegetable oils, such as corn oil, cottonseed oil, and soybean oil, are sources of linoleic and linolenic acids; fish oils are sources of eicosapentaenoic and docosahexaenoic acids. Requirements of EFAs are 1 to 2% of dietary calories for adults and 3% for infants, with a suggested ratio of 10:1 for -6:-3 fatty acids." I think they may have mixed the definition of "essential" (the body doesn't make it) with "essential" (the body needs it). The convention usually is the body doesn't make it. Arachidonic acid is made unless ingested from meat in larger quantities. EPA and DHA are made. Probably not a bad idea to add DHA to baby formula (a standard now in prepared formulas). Notice: http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/tables/1tb10.jsp TPN lipids do not contain arachidonic acid, EPA or DHA Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rodney Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 6:06 AM Subject: [ ] Essential Fats Hi folks:This may be helpful:http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/mmanual/section1/chapter2/2e.jsphttp://snipurl.com/7ovuRodney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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