DSL vs. cable high speed internet?

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

For years I've had high-speed DSL internet (over the phone lines) in my

house. In fact, one could argue that my ES started not much after

getting DSL! I'm wondering if high-speed cable internet would actually

be better for people with ES. The reason I wonder is because I believe

the phone lines aren't well-shielded, while cable TV wire is well-shielded

and grounded. Also, the DSL high frequencies travel to all of the phone jacks

throughout the house, including the one next to the head of the bed

(although DSL automatically shuts off when it isn't being used, so this may not

be a big deal). Cable TV wiring doesn't usually go near the bed, and in my

house, I could disconnect the cable TV wiring to the bedroom altogether (since

there is no TV in the bedroom).

Just curious if it would be good (from an ES standpoint) to switch from DSL to

cable internet, or if it probably makes no difference...?

(or even ClearWire, although I suspect that wireless high speed internet is

probably not a good idea!)

Thanks,

Marc

[Guest guest]

Interesting thoughts, Marc. I do think DSL is a hazard, especiallyif you

have old flat phone lines (vs twisted pair CAT-3 or better;

CAT-6 I think is shielded).

From the phone company you can get a DSL filter that goes right

in the entry box, that can filter any line that does not need the DSL.

In one case I didn't even have to pay for it--just asked the phone

guy about getting one when he was checking the lines nearby.

You might also be able to put a regular DSL filter in there but

when I tried they wouldn't fit in the box.

If you try cable modem let us know how it goes...

Bill

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Marc <marc@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> For years I've had high-speed DSL internet (over the phone lines) in my

> house. In fact, one could argue that my ES started not much after

> getting DSL! I'm wondering if high-speed cable internet would actually

> be better for people with ES. The reason I wonder is because I believe

> the phone lines aren't well-shielded, while cable TV wire is well-shielded

> and grounded. Also, the DSL high frequencies travel to all of the phone

> jacks throughout the house, including the one next to the head of the bed

> (although DSL automatically shuts off when it isn't being used, so this may

> not be a big deal). Cable TV wiring doesn't usually go near the bed, and in

> my house, I could disconnect the cable TV wiring to the bedroom altogether

> (since there is no TV in the bedroom).

>

> Just curious if it would be good (from an ES standpoint) to switch from DSL

> to cable internet, or if it probably makes no difference...?

>

> (or even ClearWire, although I suspect that wireless high speed internet is

> probably not a good idea!)

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marc

>

>

[Guest guest]

> From the phone company you can get a DSL filter that goes right

> in the entry box

Oh, I hadn't thought of looking inside the external phone

box... I should see what's in there... and what can

and cannot be filtered from there...

Thanks!

Marc

[Guest guest]

The one thing one has to consider hard is the modem or router used with

both.

There are modems which, although wired to the computer, still are

transmitting wireless.

And that is very bad.

With some modems, this wireless transmitting can be chaged in the software,

but with others this is not possible.

In that case it may help to pack the modem in aluminium foil.

Clearwire should be avoided at all costs.

This is simple Wimax at 3.5 GHz, and has pulsed signals.

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DSL vs. cable high speed internet?

>

> (or even ClearWire, although I suspect that wireless high speed internet

> is probably not a good idea!)

>

> Thanks,

>

> Marc

[Guest guest]

I tried DSL & didn't last 3 days before having to pull it out. I am on

Comcast cable now with no problems. It's great.

Paresh

http://home.earthlink.net/~sunmoonyoga/

[Guest guest]

Marc - I don't know what kind of comcast modom I have - I don't see any lable on

it...Here is some info from a friend whose husband is an engineer:

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Re whether it was the modem creating the problem in your DSL experience, and

dial up vs. DSL modems: said that different modems may have different

shieldings. If a modem has wifi capability, it might actually be broadcasting

the wifi even if you are not hooked up to it. Might be something to check out.

He said it is a high-frequency signal; 2.4 Gigaherz: About like a handheld

phone (not a cell phone but a portable wirefree handset). However, the power of

this signal drops rapidly with distance.

He does not know how the Comcast DSL would be set up, but if it is like ours,

then there is a modem box connected to the primary DSL line connected to one

computer, than the 2nd computer (I am assuming you have 2 computers) runs off

the one modem via (in our case) cable. He suggests that if the modem box ends

up in your space, (sometimes all this has to do with where your comcast

connection is, where the computers are) then put it across the room and run a

cable from it to your computer.

I got out the EMF meter we had and measured the modem which sits about 2 feet

from my head on a bookshelf. It had no discernable output, but I know the EMF

doesn't measure everything.

However the cable did have a high magnetic reading. Perhaps that is why my eyes

have been so sore recently. On the other hand, maybe that is due to all the

computer gaming. Oh well. I basically don't spend more than a half-hour or so

2-3 times a week on the computer-- that is all I can take. I don't mind some

negative effects, because of the usefulness of it for email and research.

Besides, if I sit back 2-1/2 - 3 feet from the computer and its cables, the

intensity of the field drops back down to zero. Distance is everything.

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He said the reason why you reacted badly to the DSL before is that the standard

DSL cable is not shielded. However, the Comcast cable that brings the DSL

signal is both shielded and grounded. He said if you have Comcast, you are

already getting the DSL signal-- it comes along with everything else, it's just

that you do not yet have access to it. If you can tolerate Comcast, you can

tolerate the DSL because it is already there. He said that the Comcast cable is

a coaxial cable, meaning the central wire that carries all the info, all the

current, is inside two braided insulating, shielding cables--nothing can leak

out. The cables ground themselves through the metal of the attatchment to the

TV.

He said that what might be a trouble is if you have 2 computers, and if the

connection inside the house, after the signal has reached your TV, is then over

a wireless (wi-fi) network, to reach the computers. If so, then something would

be broadcasting through your house that might raise the EMF exposure. (Starbucks

and many other places have wi-fi-- you could test your tolerance there.)

We recently added DSL via our phone line, and installed cables (having to

go underneath the house and drill holes to run them) to connect our 2 computers.

My understanding is that in general, there is always the option between wi-fi

and cable. Many people do not like wi-fi as it is not secure privacy-wise.

blessings,

Paresh

http://home.earthlink.net/~sunmoonyoga/

[Guest guest]

I don't really know any more about it. I hope you find a solution. For me,

sometimes I am hyper reactive initially & it resolves as I get used to a new

situation... gd luck.

Paresh

http://home.earthlink.net/~sunmoonyoga/