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Dear Kathy, I am a little perplexed that Bill thinks that Lou Gehrigs Disease is the same as MS. On the Disease Dictionary, he has included a treatment for Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis, (the other name for Lou Gehrigs Disease along with Motor Neurone). Although akin, ALS and MS are totally different diseases. Whereas people with some types of MS can live for 30 years or more, most of those who suffer from ALS die within 3-5 years. MS is also far more common than ALS. and often more easy to live with as often there are recessions with that disease, whereas ALS is normally an ongoing, devasting illness,. Infact,people like Hawkins, the scientist, who has lived with ALS for nearly 40 years are extremely rare. As my mother died from ALS, I have taken a specific interest in the disease, and have had some success on the Scio with keeping its devasation at bay a little longer. (One of my clients is still

running a play school after 5 years since her diagnosis). It would be immodest of me to think it has only happened with my help. The lady in questions husband has tried all sorts of other aids as well. They use the Scenar. They use a lot of colour therapy - she lies under different coloured lights, which helps her bladder and mobility. She has been detoxed for heavy metals, takes many supplements, been zapped for any paraistes, got rid of geopathic and toxic stresses, done specific physical and mental exercises etc. etc. She has an amazingly positive attidue which I am sure contibutes towards her.ongoing coping and succeeding with this disease.. Did Bill explain why he thinks one should treat with the MS button, rather than with the Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis button? Whilst ALS may favour one side initially, which may seem weaker, unfortunately it causes wasting away on both sides of either the top or bottom of the

body, and eventually of both. If anyone out there has had any positive experiences of dealing with ALS, it would be great to have the information, Many thanks.Kathy <kathyqx@...> wrote: I was recently asked what Bill s view point or recommended therapy would be for Lou Gehrigs disease. Here is his response. This is from Bill go to Disease Dictionary. Demilination or Multiple Sclerosis. When it happens on one side of the body it's Lou Gerig's or lateral sclerosis. When it happens on

both sides of the body it's MS. Yours in Health, Kathy

With love,laughter and light,

Sheena Macquet, Health and Beauty Therapist,

Quantum Scio, Radionics and Scenar Practitioner,

Louise Hay Teacher, Neuro-Linquistic Programmer,

Reflexologist,,Hypnotherapist,Remedial Masseur

Quantum Healing, Durban, SA.

031 7652734/0845565379

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Dear Sheena,

First let me tell you that the message you saw was "verbatim" from Bill, no more, no less and the only thing he said.

Now let me fill you in with a bit more to help you understand his logic and why some things are done the way they are.

Bill often puts more than one thing in the computer (and in many areas) that will work on the same area or problem. The disease dictionary is a pooling of information. We know the type of issue (or problem or given name of a dis-ease) and we allow the machine in this portion of the program to take over and utilize all the areas that he has pulled together to help areas like it. I'm sure that using Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis is also wise to do, but for the beginner the term (and similarities) which happen to the brain and body from MS and Lou Gehrigs are easier for people to compare and understand than saying go to Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis (which they are going to say "huh, what's that?"

Yes, you are correct they are different diseases and the rate of fatality is much more dramatic with LG, when I first got my machine I was so happy when I found I could help this, because a dear friend of mine in NY had just been diagnosed in May and had the fast variety. When I got my machine and was trained in Sept. I called her husband only to find out that she had just died, she did see her daughter get married in June which is what she prayed she would do, but by Sept. she was gone. Hopefully, with our equipment we can help many more like Hawkins keep their productive life and help them fight this nasty illness. And with therapist who know as much about a condition as you do out there we can keep the chat groups informed that there are other areas they can work on also to help.

As to the wasting of the body which happens it also does so with MS and other nerval issues (even polio and post-polio). Keep sharing with the group when you see an explanation which you feel they need to know more about, that's what this group is for.

Yours in Health,

Kathy

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Dear Kathy, I am a little perplexed that Bill thinks that Lou Gehrigs Disease is the same as MS. On the Disease Dictionary, he has included a treatment for Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis, (the other name for Lou Gehrigs Disease along with Motor Neurone). Although akin, ALS and MS are totally different diseases. Whereas people with some types of MS can live for 30 years or more, most of those who suffer from ALS die within 3-5 years. MS is also far more common than ALS. and often more easy to live with as often there are recessions with that disease, whereas ALS is normally an ongoing, devasting illness,. Infact,people like Hawkins, the scientist, who has lived with ALS for nearly 40 years are extremely rare.

As my mother died from ALS, I have taken a specific interest in the disease, and have had some success on the Scio with keeping its devasation at bay a little longer. (One of my clients is still running a play school after 5 years since her diagnosis). It would be immodest of me to think it has only happened with my help. The lady in questions husband has tried all sorts of other aids as well. They use the Scenar. They use a lot of colour therapy - she lies under different coloured lights, which helps her bladder and mobility. She has been detoxed for heavy metals, takes many supplements, been zapped for any paraistes, got rid of geopathic and toxic stresses, done specific physical and mental exercises etc. etc. She has an amazingly positive attidue which I am sure contibutes towards her.ongoing coping and succeeding with this disease..

Did Bill explain why he thinks one should treat with the MS button, rather than with the Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis button? Whilst ALS may favour one side initially, which may seem weaker, unfortunately it causes wasting away on both sides of either the top or bottom of the body, and eventually of both.

If anyone out there has had any positive experiences of dealing with ALS, it would be great to have the information, Many thanks.Kathy <kathyqx@...> wrote:

I was recently asked what Bill s view point or recommended therapy would be for Lou Gehrigs disease. Here is his response.

This is from Bill

go to Disease Dictionary. Demilination or Multiple Sclerosis.

When it happens on one side of the body it's Lou Gerig's or lateral sclerosis. When it happens on both sides of the body it's MS.

Yours in Health,

Kathy

With love,laughter and light,

Sheena Macquet, Health and Beauty Therapist,

Quantum Scio, Radionics and Scenar Practitioner,

Louise Hay Teacher, Neuro-Linquistic Programmer,

Reflexologist,,Hypnotherapist,Remedial Masseur

Quantum Healing, Durban, SA.

031 7652734/0845565379

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Dear Sheena, I have treated MS but not ALS.

I have a particular interest in neurodegenerative diseases, not least

because my mother-in-law had dementia and I don't want my husband to

follow the same route. MS and ALS are neurodegenerative diseases but

the differences are:

MS (many scars) is also an autoimmune disease - scarring of the nerve

fibres whereby plaques form on nerve cell fibres in brain and spinal

cord, where myelin has worn away, which affects the electrical nerve

transmission between CNS and rest of the body. There is an elevated IgG

antibodies which target myelin because the myelin basic protein has

similar molecular codes to virus/es (measles, herpes simplex, epstein

barr etc.) experienced earlier in

life. There is also elevated TNF

(tumor necrosis factor). Women are more affected than men because

oestrogen stimulates the production of gamma interferon. Stress plays a

major role and therefore biofeedback (SCIO etc.) is very effective -

reduce all stresses including

infections, emotional (treat hypothalamus). Apart from all the necessary nutrients such as

EFAs etc., it is vitally important to increase the endogenous

production of GLUTATHIONE to counteract oxidative damage of autoimmune

processes.

ALS (Amyotrophic is Greek for "no muscle nourishment") is a progressive

neuromuscular disease - the motor neurons die, which can lead to total

paralysis though mind can remain unaffected. That's why sufferers don't

live as long as MS sufferers although now, with modern medication, 10%

survive up to 10 years. There are of course several types - Classical,

Primary, Progressive muscular dystrophy, Progressive Bulbar dystrophy

and Familial ALS. In the Familial apparently, chromosome 21 has

defective SOD1 gene. SOD (superoxide dismutase), like glutathione,

mops up peroxynitrite in brain and peroxynitrite is produced because of

excessive GLUTAMATE neurotransmitter in the brain. Too much glutamate

produces too much excitement and "excitoxicity" can lead to neuron

death. It has been found that sufferers have elevated levels of

glutamate in the cerebrospinal fluid - probably they are not able to

metabolise the amino acid glutamate. Astrocytes usually mop up excess

glutamate with the help of enzymes GLT-1 in the brain. So a deficiency

in these enzymes may be a problem. They also found decrease in calcium

and magnesium, and increase in

aluminium and manganese and low serum selenium (needed for glutathione)

and mercury (probably high mercury in tissues). ALS is higher in men

than women because as men age they produce less DHEA

(dehydroepiondrostrone), which is nourishing to neurons (a neurotropic

factor). Definitely excess free radical damage - this is the common

factor with MS. Definitely no glutamine supplement (THE supplement for

leaky gut), no iron and use chelated or ionised minerals to increase

SOD and glutathione levels. Kane who specialises in

neurodegenerative diseases says - NO glutathione supplement. She gives

intravenous glutathione to great effect. She, being the "queen of

lipids" puts great emphasis on EFAs. As for the SCIO, one needs to

consider the etiology of the disease to give effective energetic

treatment. And in this I have no experience of treating ALS.

Be well, Azizah

Sheena Macquet wrote:

Dear Kathy, I am a little perplexed that Bill thinks that Lou

Gehrigs Disease is the same as MS. On the Disease Dictionary, he has

included a treatment for Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis, (the other

name for Lou Gehrigs Disease along with Motor Neurone). Although akin,

ALS and MS are totally different diseases. Whereas people with some

types of MS can live for 30 years or more, most of those who suffer

from ALS die within 3-5 years. MS is also far more common than ALS. and

often more easy to live with as often there are recessions with that

disease, whereas ALS is normally an ongoing, devasting illness,.

Infact,people like Hawkins, the scientist, who has lived with

ALS for nearly 40 years are extremely rare.

As my mother died from ALS, I have taken a specific interest in

the disease, and have had some success on the Scio with keeping its

devasation at bay a little longer. (One of my clients is still running

a play school after 5 years since her diagnosis). It would be immodest

of me to think it has only happened with my help. The lady in

questions husband has tried all sorts of other aids as well. They use

the Scenar. They use a lot of colour therapy - she lies under different

coloured lights, which helps her bladder and mobility. She has been

detoxed for heavy metals, takes many supplements, been zapped for any

paraistes, got rid of geopathic and toxic stresses, done specific

physical and mental exercises etc. etc. She has an amazingly positive

attidue which I am sure contibutes towards her.ongoing coping and

succeeding with this disease..

Did Bill explain why he thinks one should treat with the MS

button, rather than with the Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis button?

Whilst ALS may favour one side initially, which may seem weaker,

unfortunately it causes wasting away on both sides of either the top or

bottom of the body, and eventually of both.

If anyone out there has had any positive experiences of dealing

with ALS, it would be great to have the information, Many thanks.

Kathy <kathyqx@...> wrote:

I was recently asked what Bill s view

point or recommended therapy would be for Lou Gehrigs disease. Here is

his response.

This is from Bill

go to Disease Dictionary. Demilination or

Multiple Sclerosis.

When it happens on one side of the body

it's Lou Gerig's or lateral sclerosis. When it happens on both sides

of the body it's MS.

Yours in Health,

Kathy

With love,laughter and light,

Sheena Macquet, Health and Beauty Therapist,

Quantum Scio, Radionics and Scenar Practitioner,

Louise Hay Teacher, Neuro-Linquistic Programmer,

Reflexologist,,Hypnotherapist,Remedial Masseur

Quantum Healing, Durban, SA.

031 7652734/0845565379

sheenaloving@...

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Thanks Kathy for your explanation. Its very helpful, By the way, How often do you find Unconcious Choice in the Disease Dictionary to be relevant and do you use it with patients? Sometimes, it is very hard to see its relevance. Thanks for all the advice you give to us out there. Kathy <kathyqx@...> wrote: Dear Sheena, First let me tell you that the message you saw was "verbatim" from Bill, no more, no less and the only thing he said. Now let me fill you in with a bit more to help you understand his logic and why some things are done the way they are. Bill often puts more than one thing in the computer (and in many areas) that will work on the same area or problem. The disease dictionary is a pooling of information. We know the type of issue (or problem or given name of a dis-ease) and we allow the machine in this portion of the program to take over and utilize all the areas that he has pulled together to help areas like it. I'm sure that using Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis is also wise to do, but for the beginner the term (and similarities) which happen to the brain and body from MS and Lou Gehrigs are easier for people to compare and understand than saying go to Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis (which they are going to say "huh, what's that?" Yes, you are correct they are different diseases and the rate of fatality is much more dramatic with LG, when I first got my machine I was so happy when I found I could

help this, because a dear friend of mine in NY had just been diagnosed in May and had the fast variety. When I got my machine and was trained in Sept. I called her husband only to find out that she had just died, she did see her daughter get married in June which is what she prayed she would do, but by Sept. she was gone. Hopefully, with our equipment we can help many more like Hawkins keep their productive life and help them fight this nasty illness. And with therapist who know as much about a condition as you do out there we can keep the chat groups informed that there are other areas they can work on also to help. As to the wasting of the body which happens it also does so with MS and other nerval issues (even polio and post-polio). Keep sharing with the group when you see an explanation which you feel they need to know more about, that's what this group is

for. Yours in Health, Kathy Re: Lou Gehrigs disease Dear Kathy, I am a little perplexed that Bill thinks that Lou Gehrigs Disease is the same as

MS. On the Disease Dictionary, he has included a treatment for Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis, (the other name for Lou Gehrigs Disease along with Motor Neurone). Although akin, ALS and MS are totally different diseases. Whereas people with some types of MS can live for 30 years or more, most of those who suffer from ALS die within 3-5 years. MS is also far more common than ALS. and often more easy to live with as often there are recessions with that disease, whereas ALS is normally an ongoing, devasting illness,. Infact,people like Hawkins, the scientist, who has lived with ALS for nearly 40 years are extremely rare. As my mother died from ALS, I have taken a specific interest in the disease, and have had some success on the Scio with keeping its devasation at bay a little longer. (One of my clients is still running a play school after 5 years since her diagnosis). It would be immodest of me to think it has only

happened with my help. The lady in questions husband has tried all sorts of other aids as well. They use the Scenar. They use a lot of colour therapy - she lies under different coloured lights, which helps her bladder and mobility. She has been detoxed for heavy metals, takes many supplements, been zapped for any paraistes, got rid of geopathic and toxic stresses, done specific physical and mental exercises etc. etc. She has an amazingly positive attidue which I am sure contibutes towards her.ongoing coping and succeeding with this disease.. Did Bill explain why he thinks one should treat with the MS button, rather than with the Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis button? Whilst ALS may favour one side initially, which may seem weaker, unfortunately it causes wasting away on both sides of either the top or bottom of the body, and eventually of both. If anyone out there has had any positive

experiences of dealing with ALS, it would be great to have the information, Many thanks.Kathy <kathyqx@...> wrote: I was recently asked what Bill s view point or recommended therapy would be for Lou Gehrigs disease. Here is his response. This is from Bill go to Disease Dictionary. Demilination or Multiple Sclerosis. When it happens on one side of the body it's Lou Gerig's or lateral sclerosis. When it happens on both sides of the body it's MS. Yours in Health, Kathy With love,laughter and light, Sheena Macquet, Health and Beauty Therapist, Quantum Scio, Radionics and Scenar Practitioner, Louise Hay Teacher, Neuro-Linquistic Programmer, Reflexologist,,Hypnotherapist,Remedial Masseur Quantum Healing, Durban, SA. 031 7652734/0845565379 sheenaloving@...

With love,laughter and light,

Sheena Macquet, Health and Beauty Therapist,

Quantum Scio, Radionics and Scenar Practitioner,

Louise Hay Teacher, Neuro-Linquistic Programmer,

Reflexologist,,Hypnotherapist,Remedial Masseur

Quantum Healing, Durban, SA.

031 7652734/0845565379

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How often do I find the Unconscious Choice to be accurate? 95% We often over analyze the "name" it is unfortunate that we have to have names come up. Sometimes I think we should call it type 1, 2, 3 etc. so we stop looking at the name. Instead look at the definition of what the term was for and read it, you will find it normally has something to do with the condition of the client. A name is just a name.

Yours in Health,

Dr. Kathy

Re: Lou Gehrigs disease

Dear Kathy, I am a little perplexed that Bill thinks that Lou Gehrigs Disease is the same as MS. On the Disease Dictionary, he has included a treatment for Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis, (the other name for Lou Gehrigs Disease along with Motor Neurone). Although akin, ALS and MS are totally different diseases. Whereas people with some types of MS can live for 30 years or more, most of those who suffer from ALS die within 3-5 years. MS is also far more common than ALS. and often more easy to live with as often there are recessions with that disease, whereas ALS is normally an ongoing, devasting illness,. Infact,people like Hawkins, the scientist, who has lived with ALS for nearly 40 years are extremely rare.

As my mother died from ALS, I have taken a specific interest in the disease, and have had some success on the Scio with keeping its devasation at bay a little longer. (One of my clients is still running a play school after 5 years since her diagnosis). It would be immodest of me to think it has only happened with my help. The lady in questions husband has tried all sorts of other aids as well. They use the Scenar. They use a lot of colour therapy - she lies under different coloured lights, which helps her bladder and mobility. She has been detoxed for heavy metals, takes many supplements, been zapped for any paraistes, got rid of geopathic and toxic stresses, done specific physical and mental exercises etc. etc. She has an amazingly positive attidue which I am sure contibutes towards her.ongoing coping and succeeding with this disease..

Did Bill explain why he thinks one should treat with the MS button, rather than with the Amyotrophic Lateral Schlorosis button? Whilst ALS may favour one side initially, which may seem weaker, unfortunately it causes wasting away on both sides of either the top or bottom of the body, and eventually of both.

If anyone out there has had any positive experiences of dealing with ALS, it would be great to have the information, Many thanks.Kathy <kathyqx@...> wrote:

I was recently asked what Bill s view point or recommended therapy would be for Lou Gehrigs disease. Here is his response.

This is from Bill

go to Disease Dictionary. Demilination or Multiple Sclerosis.

When it happens on one side of the body it's Lou Gerig's or lateral sclerosis. When it happens on both sides of the body it's MS.

Yours in Health,

Kathy

With love,laughter and light,

Sheena Macquet, Health and Beauty Therapist,

Quantum Scio, Radionics and Scenar Practitioner,

Louise Hay Teacher, Neuro-Linquistic Programmer,

Reflexologist,,Hypnotherapist,Remedial Masseur

Quantum Healing, Durban, SA.

031 7652734/0845565379

sheenaloving@...

With love,laughter and light,

Sheena Macquet, Health and Beauty Therapist,

Quantum Scio, Radionics and Scenar Practitioner,

Louise Hay Teacher, Neuro-Linquistic Programmer,

Reflexologist,,Hypnotherapist,Remedial Masseur

Quantum Healing, Durban, SA.

031 7652734/0845565379

sheenaloving@...

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