Guest guest Posted April 23, 2004 Report Share Posted April 23, 2004 I have just been to a supermarket with fluorescent lights, and as always felt very uncomfortable there. My wife who is not (much) ES feels the same but to smaller extent... That makes me wonder more about the ES phenomenon... As we know (please correct if I am wrong!), fluorescent lights make no measurable radiation at the distance of 2 meters (the usual distance between the lights in supermarkets and the heads of customers). So what is the problem than? I see just two possible answers: 1. As we have spoken before, not the radiation itself is what discomfort us, but something else, what is just related to radiation somehow ( " longitudinal waves " , positive ions... or whatever). 2. Fluorescent lights flicker and make light oscillations, and that light oscillations annoy our nervous system. According to some my correspondence of many years ago, some compare ES symptoms with epileptic seizures (a " tre petit mal " - " very little attack " ). Epileptic seizures are efficiently induced by a flickering light (at neurologist's ordinations etc.) Also, I was told that anti-epileptic drugs help reduce ES manifestations (but I never tried, although I am planning to). This theory looks sane to me, as that would have matched many other observations, including the fact that pulsed radiation is definitively found more problematic than continuous one... I am very inclined to theory that at extremely low levels, radiation is not any problem by itself, but by it's virtue to carry an information - particularly a malicious frequency that the brain unfortunately (dis)synchronizes with... By the way, I have seen in the list of the members of this list the address of a doctor who's opinion on this particular issue could be very interesting, but as he remains silent, I am not going to name him. I would have appreciated his comments either to the list or directly to my address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Hi Drasko There is also the possibility that the ballasts of the fluoro lights are causing transients (high energy, high frequency spikes) to be transmitted throughout a building. You could also be feeling the effects of these, or a combination of things. An interesting experiment could be to have someone lead you through a number of environments, including a supermarket, with your entire body shielded from light (especially your eyes). You could record any sensations and therefore theoretically see what influence the lights have on your body, compared with other frequencies of electromagnetic radiation. It's interesting to remember that light from fluoros is also a 50Hz pulsed EM radiation.... theory I have just been to a supermarket with fluorescent lights, and as always felt very uncomfortable there. My wife who is not (much) ES feels the same but to smaller extent... That makes me wonder more about the ES phenomenon... As we know (please correct if I am wrong!), fluorescent lights make no measurable radiation at the distance of 2 meters (the usual distance between the lights in supermarkets and the heads of customers). So what is the problem than? I see just two possible answers: 1. As we have spoken before, not the radiation itself is what discomfort us, but something else, what is just related to radiation somehow ( " longitudinal waves " , positive ions... or whatever). 2. Fluorescent lights flicker and make light oscillations, and that light oscillations annoy our nervous system. According to some my correspondence of many years ago, some compare ES symptoms with epileptic seizures (a " tre petit mal " - " very little attack " ). Epileptic seizures are efficiently induced by a flickering light (at neurologist's ordinations etc.) Also, I was told that anti-epileptic drugs help reduce ES manifestations (but I never tried, although I am planning to). This theory looks sane to me, as that would have matched many other observations, including the fact that pulsed radiation is definitively found more problematic than continuous one... I am very inclined to theory that at extremely low levels, radiation is not any problem by itself, but by it's virtue to carry an information - particularly a malicious frequency that the brain unfortunately (dis)synchronizes with... By the way, I have seen in the list of the members of this list the address of a doctor who's opinion on this particular issue could be very interesting, but as he remains silent, I am not going to name him. I would have appreciated his comments either to the list or directly to my address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Hello, , Thank you very much for your response to my inquiry about the fluorescent lights! That concerns me very much, so I would appreciate any further correspondence that could lead to final carifying of the issue!.. I have just returned from the supremarket, where I went just to check the readings and detected with a simple Gaussmeter a reading of say 20nT (=0.2 mG), what matched my previous observations. As you would probably agree, even it was, as you found, up to 100-200nT (1mG), it still falls within average urban pollution!! You would never ever hear anybody (except us - ES people) complaining at a 1mG field that is often found in big buildings, but some 30% of population complains at fluorescent lights (and leave supermarkets quickly) - why?? (By the way - my meters are not reliable at kHz range - have you tested fluorescent lights in that range? ) Drasko theory > > > > I have just been to a supermarket with fluorescent lights, and as always > felt very uncomfortable there. My wife who is not (much) ES feels the same > but to smaller extent... That makes me wonder more about the ES > phenomenon... > > > > As we know (please correct if I am wrong!), fluorescent lights > make no measurable radiation at the distance of 2 meters (the usual distance > between the lights in supermarkets and the heads of customers). So what is > the problem than? I see just two possible answers: > > > > 1. As we have spoken before, not the radiation itself is what discomfort > us, but something else, what is just related to radiation somehow > ( " longitudinal waves " , positive ions... or whatever). > > > > 2. Fluorescent lights flicker and make light oscillations, and that light > oscillations annoy our nervous system. > > According to some my correspondence of many years ago, some compare ES > symptoms with epileptic seizures (a " tre petit mal " - " very little attack " ). > Epileptic seizures are efficiently induced by a flickering light (at > neurologist's ordinations etc.) Also, I was told that anti-epileptic drugs > help reduce ES manifestations (but I never tried, although I am planning > to). > > This theory looks sane to me, as that would have matched many other > observations, including the fact that pulsed radiation is definitively found > more problematic than continuous one... I am very inclined to theory that at > extremely low levels, radiation is not any problem by itself, but by it's > virtue to carry an information - particularly a malicious frequency that the > brain unfortunately (dis)synchronizes with... > > > > By the way, I have seen in the list of the members of this list the > address of a doctor who's opinion on this particular issue could be very > interesting, but as he remains silent, I am not going to name him. I would > have appreciated his comments either to the list or directly to my address. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Yes, Lachlan, thanks, it is a good idea to check my " theory " that way! (Just I have to make it at home, in supermarket it would have been rather strange...) Dasko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Interesting Jim. I have hashi's. Went to an acupuncture training by a doctor here in land in March. I asked him what his "take" was on Hashi's. He said the immune system is doing it's job. There is something there it needs to eradicate. He went on to diagnosis me with lyme and other tick infections as well as Epstein Barr through a pulse testing technique. This was a much different viewpiont about autoimmunity than I've heard in recent years after reading everything I can get my hands on. He treated me with homeopathics for the lyme, etc. and I'm happy to report I feel the best I have in a long time. I also went on a T4/T3 combo with mostly T3. I'll send you that email as I'd like to see this. Janet iodine From: CSt012392@...Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:00:54 -0400Subject: Theory I'd love to hear about it.Thanks,On Christ the Rock I forever stand. Everything else is sinking sand. On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, "dutchdivco" <jdutchmanjim@...> wrote: I also have some material written up, on the underlieng cause of Auto-immune diseases, including Hashi's, and non-inflamatory Hypothyroidism being caused by an infection, and a treatment/cure that includes iodine AND LDN. Anyone who would like to read it, e-mail me and put "Theory" in the Title or first line of your reply.Note; this is NOT a 'commercial' just trying to 'spread the word'.Jim > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > Does she eat grains? Sugar. Stop those and pretty much, no more pain. Oh, > > > and sodas also. Dairy might be a problem as well. Diet is probably the > > > biggest cause of arthritis. > > > > > > Nonie > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Iodine > > > From: tobdncng@ > > > Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:14:46 -0400 > > > Subject: Arthritis for Iodine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a friend who has arthritis pretty bad. She asked me if anything I > > > was doing would help with her arthritis. Do you think Iodine would help > > > with it? > > > > > > I know it is needed, but she would need to see specifically how it would > > > help her arthritis. Not really into all this health stuff, but the pain is > > > getting bad enough to get her attention. Hoping to recruit another convert > > > in this mission to get the world healthier. > > > > > > Thanks for any input. > > > > > > Glowing, > > > > > > grace~* > > > > > > As Ghandi taught, the secret to life is to struggle against oppression and > > > to fight for what is needed, but not to be attached to any particular > > > outcome. Therein lies the secret of peace within the chaos. > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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