Guest guest Posted July 19, 2004 Report Share Posted July 19, 2004 Hello , I thought I'd check out your group. I already got one very helpful message from Marc. I'd still be interested to know what any others think are good devices. The more I can learn about this the better. It runs my life anymore. M. > Hi people - could everyone who has experience with devices help this guy > out? > > Thanks > > > > emr protection? > > > hello from the USA, > I'm very electrically sensitive. I had a protective device made in > New Zealand called an Electroshield. It really worked. Alas, my wife ran > it through the washer with a pair of pants. I tried to order another one > & found the company that made them went out of business. Now I'm > desperate to find something else that works as well. I had something > called a Q Link & it was worthless. > I wondered if you might know of someone that could point me in the > right direction of a device that really works. Thanks. > > Mauersberger > town, Ohio > USA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 I had an EDTA challange that showed I had a fairly high level of lead & nickel in my body. I've been taking an oral chelator (also with EDTA) but I don't know how its done. I think I'm going to switch to IV chelation to make sure I get the stuff out. Do you think this could be the underlying cause of electrical sensitivity that we all share? It sounds like several of us have a calcium intolerance in common? > > I thought I'd check out your group. I already got one very helpful > > message from Marc. I'd still be interested to know what any others > > think are good devices. The more I can learn about this the better. > > Note that besides EMF protection devices, some people benefit from > things like having their mercury dental filling removed, or changing > your diet and supplementation to things which help. Some examples > of standard foods which have helped me are: dates, avacados, bananas, > oatcakes. Some nonstandard things which have helped me are > sea-vegetables (kelp), chia seeds (these seem particularly powerful > to me, and I can only tolerate a very small amount per day), powdered > barley grass juice, probiotics (primal defense is a good one), > antioxidants (mega-H is a good one). > > I'm much more tolerant of EMF than I used to be, but EMF protection > devices are only part of the solution for me. (although I never > heard of the Electroshield product that you were using before) > > Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 >Do you think this >could be the underlying cause of electrical sensitivity that we all >share? My thinking is that it's a combination of heavy metal poisoning and poor nutrition. I wouldn't try getting the metals out TOO fast -- I've tried that on many occasions, and I ended up feeling TERRIBLE. Better to go slow if you want to remain functional while you're doing it. Of course, everyone is different in this regard -- some people can handle detoxing a lot more than others... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2004 Report Share Posted July 20, 2004 > >Do you think this > >could be the underlying cause of electrical sensitivity that we all > >share? > > My thinking is that it's a combination of heavy metal poisoning > and poor nutrition. I wouldn't try getting the metals out TOO > fast -- I've tried that on many occasions, and I ended up feeling > TERRIBLE. Better to go slow if you want to remain functional > while you're doing it. > > Of course, everyone is different in this regard -- some people > can handle detoxing a lot more than others... > > Marc Marc, Have you done an EDTA challange to see specifically what's in you? I'm curious. What kind of detoxing have you done to try & eliminate heavy metals? Do you have any way of knowing whether levels that existed before have diminished & by how much? M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 > > Have you done an EDTA challange to see specifically what's in you? > > No, I always had the fear that I was too toxic to be able to handle > any sort of " challenge " . I had a hair mineral test once, which showed > I was too high in mercury, arsenic, and uranium. However, the > problem with hair tests is that it's not that important what's > in your hair -- it's more important what's in your thyroid, > your brain, your liver, etc. And no testing shows this > (except autopsies!). > > In the years since, I've come to the conclusion that all > such challenges are meangingless anyway. All they do is show > whether or not your body is excreting metals. That really has > nothing to do with how much metal is in your body, or where > it is located. People can be loaded with metals yet not > be able to excrete it until they have the right nutrition. > And any accumulation of metals in one organ will have > dramatically different symptoms and treatment than an > accumulation of the same metal in some other organ. > > As for the things I've tried to eliminate heavy metals, > I've gone through all sorts of things which are supposed > to chelate metals (NDF, Seagreens, CLNZ, Microhydrin, > cilantro, chlorella, etc.). However, I have found that > using Springlife polarizers and/or Quantum Products > cause the same sort of detoxification, plus have the > benefit of improving tolerance for EMF. So I've mostly > been using just these for detoxification, and supplementing > for the additional nutritional requirements needed to > handle the detox. > > Occasionally I experiment with adding an extra supplement > for detox, but I usually quickly find that I'm overdoing > it. They say that the folks who are REALLY toxic require > about 5 years to return to normal, and I can tell that > I'm definitely in this category. And I've been at this > for about 3-4 years now. > > Marc It can unfortunately take a lifetime in my experience. It's like going through life with a hundred pound weight on your back. I think there is also an interplay with one or more pathogenic microorganisms that have become permanent residents of the host. Their numbers wax & wane as our wounded immune systems try to totally eliminate them in vain. This whole package, I think can also be called & is a variation of : chronic fatigue syndrome, gulf war syndrome, multiple chemical sensitivity, food allergies, encephelomyopathy, epstein barre viral infection, candida infection, & probably other variations. For instance, I've experienced problems with & been diagnosed in the past with: food & inhalant allergies, multiple chemical sensitivity, candida overgrowth, & chronic fatigue syndrome As I've fought to rid myself of this horrible affliction certain things have disappeared & others have taken prominence. For instance, this year is the 1st year of my life that I haven't had any allergies, no food, inhalent, or chemical allergies when they totally ran my life for a number of year. I would have to attribute this miraculous development to a program of colonic cleansings followed by liver flushes at 3 week intervals for about 6 months. My liver was chock full of stones which come out in large numbers on the 1st several flushes ,probably opening up passages in the liver that have been partially obstrocted for years. In addition I've finially gotten the right gut flora in my digestive tract after years of trying to rid myself of yeast. I've heard this whole situation explained as being like an onion, where when one layer is peeled away there is another one on top. It was always there but you could'nt recognize it because the previous layer muddied the water too much. Peel it away that layer and another takes prominence & on & on it goes & where or if it ever stops, nobody, at least not me, knows.. I suspect that I still have a chronic viral infection that is still a factor in the electrical sensitivity that seems to wax & wane in conjunction with the malaise & other symptoms that make me miserable periodically. I wish it were just like a heart attack or something where the cause & treatment was already known But unfortunately it's far from that. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 As a device it sounds interesting.. Heres an article http://www.ghchealth.com/jul-00.html which mentions it, and an american distributer who appears to now have no website.. :-( ------------ *LATEST RESEARCH* - /Cell phones are sucking the life out of you!/ *Cell Phone Health Risk Exposed On ABC's 20/20* *By Bales* Dr. Carlo, leading EMF scientist and former cell phone industry advocate, first blew the whistle on the dangers of cell phones October 20, 1999 during ABC's 20/20 news program in an explosive report based on six years of studies commissioned and paid for by the cell phone industry itself. Dr. Carlo, formerly the industry's leading expert and top scientist on cellular/wireless technology and consumer health, broke ranks to give consumers caution throughout the world. His solemn warning simply stated, 'cell phone technology, can no longer be considered completely safe.' Dr. Carlo's years of research into cell phone use and consumer safety concluded there was direct evidence linking cell phone use with two primary health problems, brain tumors and genetic damage a precursor to cancer. Carlo's research concluded cell phone users were twice as likely to suffer from brain cancer and rare tumors than non-users. ABC's nationwide broadcast last October resulted in immediate responses from the FCC, FDA and the cellular industry (CTIA). Despite accusations that the health effects of cellular phone radiation are being withheld from consumers by the cellular industry and the government, the FDA proposed a collaborative project with CTIA to investigate this issue. Producers at ABC's 20/20 re-aired this groundbreaking story this Friday May 26, 2000. When cell phones first came out they were simply assumed to be safe and never tested for health risks. However, when held to the ear up to 60% of the cell phone's EMF emissions penetrate the skull and are absorbed by the user's brain. When tested in the laboratory, ABC's Ross found every cell phone tested exceeded the Federal Communication Commission's SAR (specific absorption rate) standards when held in certain positions. Despite repeated request by consumer advocate groups calling for label warnings, cell phone manufacturers still refuse to place consumer SAR information on their products. While the cell phone industry continues to deny any health risks associated with their products, the Food and Drug Administration maintains more research is needed and has advocated the practice of prudent avoidance until further testing is done. With 80 million cell phone users in North America and 300 million cell phone users worldwide, the potential for a global health disaster has never been more apparent. Informed consumers aware of the alarming scientific evidence and the natural elctro-chemical balance of the body, continue seeking prudent protection from environmental EMF pollution caused by cell phones, computer screens, and power lines. Since 20/20's investigation first aired last year, headphones and microphone clips have become popular accessories for educated cell phone users hoping to reduce the harmful EMF emissions into the brain; however, users usually wear the phone on their belt reducing exposure to the brain and increasing exposure to the torso and reproductive organs. One common misconception regarding cell phone safety is that by moving the device away from the brain, users eliminate exposure to harmful EMF and the resulting risk to health. The second dangerous misconception is that cell phones do not emit harmful radiation while operating on stand-by mode. According to EMF researcher and Electroshield Of North America co-founder DaveAshton, " Long term damage comes from cell phones in the stand-by mode. Phone 'shield' covers and ear pieces cannot adequately address these problems. " Ashton became an expert on environmental EMF pollution out of necessity. In a last ditch effort to save his dairy farm from livestock deaths caused by a phenomenon known among veterinarians and doctors as stray voltage, Ashton took a chance by investing in a new technology developed by a New Zealand quantum physicists. " The device promised to neutralize the electronic environment up to 1,500 square feet. It sounded to good to be true, " recalls Ashton. The initial results were favorable and Asthon began referring other farmers to them. Not only did the death rate from electrical poisoning decline, farmers also began noticing herd health improve, milk production increase, and even the chickens began laying more eggs. Where the animals felt better, so did the people. Soon farmers across Wisconsin and people living or working in the environments neutralized by the Electroshield reported improvements in health and feelings of well being. The anecdotal evidence verified the double blind medical test results and substantiated the product's claims. Recognizing the universal application of the neutralizers and its inherent health benefits, Ashton co-founded Electroshield of North America to bring the this state-of- the-art technology to consumers throughout North America. " Of greatest concern now, are the 300 million cell phone users who are continuously exposed to cell phone radiation on a daily basis, " says Ashton. " With the convenience and apparent necessity of wireless and cellular technology, prudent avoidance is not always practical; however, with the Electroshield neutralizers prudent protection now is. " Informed consumers can find useful information on assessing their electronic environment and evaluating EMF risk factors at the company's web-site http://esona.com. Secure online servers expedite the ordering process allowing most customers to have their neutralizing units installed within five days of placing their online order. For free telephone consultation or to learn more about the Electroshield neutralizing products contact company co-founder *Dave Ashton* at *1-888-855-4999*. *Esona.com Affiliate Team* /http://esona.com/ *Electroshield of North America* Main Office 7401 Hwy 61 Lancaster, WI 53714 888-855-4999 Web: http://esona.com Email: dave@... <mailto:dave@...> *Electroshield of North America* Affiliate Office 2176 Fawn RD Abilene, KS 67410 888-842-6419 Web: http://esona.com Email: joel@... <mailto:joel@...> Cheers Pete Benson, (Sen L. ) wrote: > Hi people - could everyone who has experience with devices help this guy > out? > > Thanks > > > > emr protection? > > > hello from the USA, > I'm very electrically sensitive. I had a protective device made in > New Zealand called an Electroshield. It really worked. Alas, my wife ran > it through the washer with a pair of pants. I tried to order another one > & found the company that made them went out of business. Now I'm > desperate to find something else that works as well. I had something > called a Q Link & it was worthless. > I wondered if you might know of someone that could point me in the > right direction of a device that really works. Thanks. > > Mauersberger > town, Ohio > USA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 Some more links.. http://members.tripod.com/mollydots_3/psyc.html http://members.aol.com/gotemf/shield.htm Good luck - looks like they went bust - would be good to find out what happened.. Cheers Pete Benson, (Sen L. ) wrote: > Hi people - could everyone who has experience with devices help this guy > out? > > Thanks > > > > emr protection? > > > hello from the USA, > I'm very electrically sensitive. I had a protective device made in > New Zealand called an Electroshield. It really worked. Alas, my wife ran > it through the washer with a pair of pants. I tried to order another one > & found the company that made them went out of business. Now I'm > desperate to find something else that works as well. I had something > called a Q Link & it was worthless. > I wondered if you might know of someone that could point me in the > right direction of a device that really works. Thanks. > > Mauersberger > town, Ohio > USA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 > Heres an article http://www.ghchealth.com/jul-00.html which mentions > it, and an american distributer who appears to now have no website.. :-( Using the handy web archive site (web.archive.org), I see that this website existed from 2000 - 2001. For example: http://web.archive.org/web/20010419070958/http://esona.com/ Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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