Re: Re: Re PH balance - another supplement?

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We here at the wellness center would recommend a patented product "Akalalife" and therapists here at the center are using it. It is reasonably priced as it is not "pyramided" in a network marketing scheme. Contact the inventor "sang@..." for the product. Barry at QWC

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Regarding the most accurate product to make correction of Ph Proton

pressure`

Coral Calcium is very good in case of urgency use Cesium chloride.

One of the story that I have heard recently is a man of 50 years old who was

reproducing

kidney tones on a high level big as a golf ball .Returning to the hospital

for a laser disolvement

regularly. He tried regular Coral Calcium fossilised but it reduced

gradually.

So,he phoned Barefoot who told him to go on Cesium Chloride for a

while until

the Ph reach the normal point 7.4 then continue with Coral Calcium Supreme

that has

3 mg of cesium per cap.He did it ,and he never reproduced any kidney stone.

I sold over 1000 bottles of Coral Calcium Supreme with Miraculous result ,it

is

unbelievable. that is why FTC and FDA are so upset about this product and

try to invent

all kind of stupid scandal around it.This is the way they proteck the

Pharmaceutical Mafia.

Pablo

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dear adam,

knowing the manufacturer of osiba, i can tell you, it will sooner or later

be available in the us. this doesn´t help at the moment of course.

another way to get potassium into the cells, is drinking a teaspoon of

organic molasses in a glass of warm water three times a day. also greens are

good for that.

the company arise and shine offers an alkalizer, too, which is plant-based.

this reading you are mentioning (to me) definitely represents a serious case

of cellular acidity. chelated minerals will not solve this.

i have after thinking and thinking and thinking....realized, the best way to

find out, if someone is too acidic, is to check from the nutrition panel.

minerals: if calcium, magnesium and potassium figures are above 100 or

significantly higher than other figures, then you know, the person is too

acidic, since these minerals are the alkaline minerals. i don´t know, if

this is a known fact, but ME it took so long to realize, that that is the

only reliable value, when i want to know the acid/alkaline balance.

all the best

marlene

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can someone

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You may or may not have been told about a company called "Inner Light". Look them up on the web at www.innerlightinc.com/enterprise Their basis for the whole company is Alkalizing the body to reduce stress. We have found it helps, more than we expected. We also use Mycrohydrin, by Royal BodyCare, Inc., good product but very expensive. (Note: want a good skin detox? Put about 6 capsules and 1 glass of orange juice in your bathtub! best bath you'll ever try!) Try it and see what you think.

Yours in Health

Kathy mosk777 <mosk@...> wrote:

Hi.I would love to get my hands on osiba for a client of mine. i live in the US, so i guess osiba is out. Does anyone have a suggestion about another ph-balancing supplement for a "too acidic" reading? This particular client has a consistent proton pressure of >80 and then an electron pressure reading of <60 (sometimes under 50)i've learned that this could be a sign of chronic systemic disorder. I'd like to get the acidic down first of course.thanks for any suggestions....-adam> I was quite happy with it. Now I am using ionized water. Waiting for some more experience with this on myself and clients, Noel> Re PH balance> >> >> > As a new QXCI operater Im unsure how to influence the body PH> > balance especially when the proton reading is very high, can someone> > help with this. Thanks > >> >> >>

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If I may say so, the problem of acidity and alkalinity should really be investigated at a deeper level than just by trying to solve it by giving supplements. If the object of the exercise is to get the "reading" i.e. number on the QX, down, then are we not guilty of doing exactly what the allopaths do which is treating the symptom? Should we not treat the "person" rather than the reading? Why is a person's system acidic (sympathetic dominance for example) - sort that out and the reading will sort itself out.

Also, different people due to biochemical individuality, react to the same supplement differently. There is no such thing as a supplement or even food, which is "fit for everybody".

I am not trying to be clever or arrogant, but the QX is a wonderful device that enables us to investigate a person's health problems at different levels and find solutions holistically. The numbers, Bill always says, are soft, we must not get too hooked up on them.

Be well, Azizah

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Azizah, I agree we need to look at more simple answers, I personally do not use many supplements and do not recommend many in my practice. Lifestyle, emotional balancing, 'timeouts', and diet are my focus.

Nana

Re: Re: Re PH balance - another supplement?

If I may say so, the problem of acidity and alkalinity should really be investigated at a deeper level than just by trying to solve it by giving supplements. If the object of the exercise is to get the "reading" i.e. number on the QX, down, then are we not guilty of doing exactly what the allopaths do which is treating the symptom? Should we not treat the "person" rather than the reading? Why is a person's system acidic (sympathetic dominance for example) - sort that out and the reading will sort itself out. Also, different people due to biochemical individuality, react to the same supplement differently. There is no such thing as a supplement or even food, which is "fit for everybody". I am not trying to be clever or arrogant, but the QX is a wonderful device that enables us to investigate a person's health problems at different levels and find solutions holistically. The numbers, Bill always says, are soft, we must not get too hooked up on them. Be well, Azizah ............................................

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dear azizah,

you´re right, when saying it is necessary to investigate the cause for acidity on a deeper level. that´s being done usually, isn´t it. we know of the causes, and know, how to ask the patients and make them aware of the problem.

of course, it takes life style changes etc.

and there is certainly no one size fits all in terms of supplements. testing products in the meridian program is always a little revelation, i find. sometimes i would be sure to give this or that, then test it, and it´s completely different, how the body reacts.

but i do not agree with you saying, the acidity problem will sort out itself, when changing certain things.

many times in chronic disease the acidity is on a cellular level already, and then it is rather difficult to sort this out by changing diet and lifestyle.

and detoxifying doesn´t work, when the body is all acidic. therefore the approach to my oppinion should be correcting the ph balance. this will sort out cellular oxygen deficiencies in the long run, it enables the body to let go off toxins and it makes the environment uncosy for pathogens.

at the same time, life style changes must be undertaken to keep the results stable.

since i address the acidity problem first, patients and i work together much more successfully.

i also find, that the more acidic a person, the more they crave for acid forming foods....

weird, but seen many times.

azizah!! i would like to come to london for the next seminar.... will you be there?

blessings

marlene

Re: Re: Re PH balance - another supplement?

If I may say so, the problem of acidity and alkalinity should really be investigated at a deeper level than just by trying to solve it by giving supplements. If the object of the exercise is to get the "reading" i.e. number on the QX, down, then are we not guilty of doing exactly what the allopaths do which is treating the symptom? Should we not treat the "person" rather than the reading? Why is a person's system acidic (sympathetic dominance for example) - sort that out and the reading will sort itself out. Also, different people due to biochemical individuality, react to the same supplement differently. There is no such thing as a supplement or even food, which is "fit for everybody". I am not trying to be clever or arrogant, but the QX is a wonderful device that enables us to investigate a person's health problems at different levels and find solutions holistically. The numbers, Bill always says, are soft, we must not get too hooked up on them. Be well, Azizah ............................................

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Dear

If you mean the seminar on 7th Sept. in London, yes I'll be there with Dr Bourne to talk about "serious conditions". Would love to see you.

I am rather behind with notes and handout so I am not able to explain to you in detail why the only way one can counteract "acidity" or "alkalinity" for that matter is to assess the person in depth and then determine the foods and supplements that are appropriate for that person.

Your wrote

"many times in chronic disease the acidity is on a cellular level already, and then it is rather difficult to sort this out by changing diet and lifestyle."

On the contrary, the only way to counteract acidity at cellular level is to change diet BUT it must be a diet that is appropriate for the person in question i.e according to his or her biochemical individuality.

For example, if a person is a fast oxidiser, then the blood will be acid and urine alkaline. This person will need foods and supplements which will alkalise the blood, which will different foods and supplements for somebody who is a slow oxidiser who will have alkaline blood. Until we have established whether a person is a fast or slow or balanced oxidisers, it is difficult to correct the pH. This is just one example, there are other biochemical imbalances which can affect blood pH.

All I am saying is that supplements and foods have different acidity and alkalinity effects on different persons depending on their specific biochemical individuality. And then a supplement in itself can acidify blood (like ascorbic acid) or alkalise blood (like calcium carbonate).

We'll discuss more anon and we remain, , the best of emailing friends. I just love your enthusiasm. I wonder whther you are a fast oxidiser or a slow oxidiser.

Be well, Azizah

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I meant "calcium ascorbate" and wrote "calcium carbonate", which is not a form of vitamin C.

Apologies, Azizah

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dear azizah,

i know excatly, what you mean. i was rather talking about emergencies. i mean, when a person is so deficient of calcium/magnesium/potassium i simply take quick action. and usually, when i test a supplement thru the meridian testing, i get valuable results. osiba, the colloidal alkalizer is a wonderful supplement, yet not for everybody, when i test on the meridians. my way is, to make people feel better quickly, so that they are willing to go further and make more changes. life style changes, diet changes, quit bad habits (smoking!!!) one by one.it only works (to my experience of course only), if they see, they can actually feel better, when they make changes.

i find it hard to make people turn around completely right from the start. it´s a process, that usually takes time. many have families, kids to feed, husbands to feed. know, what i mean? so, i go step by step with them. still i haven´t found the real key to diet yet.

knowing, that food is the key to health, i have read and tried so many different methods. fit for life, raw food diet, atkins diet, blood type diet, etc. etc. none of them has ever made me happy. how can one find out, what´s good for who.

i am still looking for the real answer. know, what i mean? you are speaking of metabolic types. i have read about that, too. but i do not know much. could that be the key?

i´m blood type a, have rather too little stomach acid than too much. i don´t do so well with proteins. this is only a feeling. my thyroid is a bit lazy, i find. how do you find out, if a person is a slow or fast oxidiser?? i really wish, there was an answer that answers ALL diet questions. do you have it??? if so, can i be your student??? i´m a fast learner, and enthusiastic, as you say. it´s my passion to learn.

last week-end, while you were having fun (Regent´s college??), i was struck down by a summer flu. my son usually brings a flu home from kindergarten. oh well.

thanks for everything, azizah.

have a great day

marlene

Re: Re: Re PH balance - another supplement?

Dear If you mean the seminar on 7th Sept. in London, yes I'll be there with Dr Bourne to talk about "serious conditions". Would love to see you. I am rather behind with notes and handout so I am not able to explain to you in detail why the only way one can counteract "acidity" or "alkalinity" for that matter is to assess the person in depth and then determine the foods and supplements that are appropriate for that person. Your wrote "many times in chronic disease the acidity is on a cellular level already, and then it is rather difficult to sort this out by changing diet and lifestyle." On the contrary, the only way to counteract acidity at cellular level is to change diet BUT it must be a diet that is appropriate for the person in question i.e according to his or her biochemical individuality. For example, if a person is a fast oxidiser, then the blood will be acid and urine alkaline. This person will need foods and supplements which will alkalise the blood, which will different foods and supplements for somebody who is a slow oxidiser who will have alkaline blood. Until we have established whether a person is a fast or slow or balanced oxidisers, it is difficult to correct the pH. This is just one example, there are other biochemical imbalances which can affect blood pH. All I am saying is that supplements and foods have different acidity and alkalinity effects on different persons depending on their specific biochemical individuality. And then a supplement in itself can acidify blood (like ascorbic acid) or alkalise blood (like calcium carbonate). We'll discuss more anon and we remain, , the best of emailing friends. I just love your enthusiasm. I wonder whther you are a fast oxidiser or a slow oxidiser. Be well, Azizah ............................................

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Read your ph response and was astounded by your totally accurate ph grasp.The rank and file of practitioners-of ALL kinds,esp. alternative "vegetarian" practitioners-not only have no metabolic\nutritional\dietary understanding of ph issues;but futhermore,are driving many into{even further}metabolic acidosis -with resultant worsening of symptoms and the creation of new symptoms and syndromes-by recommending ad infinitum a vegetarian diet,raw foods diet,low fat diet,low protein diet,etc.And by recommending acid-forming supplements as well , further compoundind the already too low blood ph. The most important,first order of "metabolic business" for ALL practitioners is to detach oneself spiritually,culturally, and personally from the patient\client;STOP recomending ad infinitum their personally chosen diet;metabolically type the patient\client,thereby taking into the proper and necessary consideration such individual's inborn genetic dietary requirements;and therby rebalance ph.Supplements alone-even if such supplements are properly metabolically prescribed -are NOT in themselves a necessary nor sufficient condition for metabolic rebalancing The proper and necessary dietary prescription is key Inevitably,acidotics need-and genetically require-SATURATED FAT to slow down too fast oxidation rate,along with no sugar,highly restricted fruit,animal protein,and reduced carbohydrates in general. For all who are interested,in proper ph rebalancing a good starting point is RudolPH Wiley's BIOBALANCE(AVAIL. AT AMAZON.COM).

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Dear Priscilla

Sorry for the delay - been up to too many things.

Savinelli has answered this question fully in her email of 08/09/03. I would add Kristal's book "The Nutrition Solution", which I actually use as a reference book for my class. And an email from stantonhealth@... mentioned Rudolf Wiley's Biobalance. Many thanks for recommending all these wonderful books - they give a better understanding of the pH. It's quite a complicated subject, not as easy as eating acid froming or alkaline forming foods to adjust your body pH.

Be well, Azizah.