Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Dear Rose and forum participants, Your point is well taken. Hypothyroid disease is rampant and very often not diagnosed. When it is most patients are given synthetic thyroid usually in the form of Synthroid which is T4. The reason it does not work well is that it needs to be converted to T3 (one less molecule of iodine) which is the most active form of thyroid hormone. This conversion requires the trace mineral selenium so if one is deficient in selenuim T4 will not Convert to T3. One other thing that most physicians don't check is for anti-thyroid antibodies especially in persons who have many amlgams or were born to women with many amalgams as well as those who have gluten sensitivity. The patient also needs to check their basal temperature upon awakening. Then the whole puzzle needs to be assembled for the most efficacious treatment for the individual person. So you can see that treating hypothyroidism can be complex. Armour thyroid is available throughout the world but needs to be prescribed by a physician. However, the original Armour thyoid extract was bought out by a big pharma and now has several additives which I did not like. I personally use Western Research's Naturthroid in my medical practice which is pure unadulterated dessicated porcine thyroid extract. If the anti-thyroid antiboby titre is elevated then it requires a more complex approach. I really question if the doctor in Canada would lose his license for prescribing Armour since it is a pharceutical!! Castiglia, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Also check out Dr. 's website www.wilsonsthyroidsyndrome.com for people with low temps and metabolism yet normal thyroid labs. Works well with his long acting T3 or thyroid herbal therapies. Diane Culik MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 These site is a self made " syndrom " What is the " normal " Temperature of the body? because to dr. is Under98.3 is already low temperature and low thyroid.Other /correct /doctor saying 97.00 temperature is the sign for low thyroid.I did read all DR literature.For me is a scam.I have friend Whom signed up with Dr whom will sending His patiens stetewide to doctors,for the $220 beginning money for treatment.That much hormone need to take what is 300-400% procent more than any pharmacy book subcrive.I warned my friend,but do not lissened.Becomet very sick ,still sick.the Syndrome is not an " official " name These call Dr. givet His name,owne his will. Diasese is a total different sicness.America 31 guide to Natural Healt NUTRITIONAL HEALING BOOK 3-rd editions pg 451 on self test thyroid the temp. listed 97.6 for hypothyroid reading base line.these is much more less as the wilson books are stating.The books are 200-300 $ what need to buy.These is total ridicules. With newborne babies the papers show good temperatures also some Brasil temp. scale. othervise all clinik and school teaching wrong.If sombody the standard 36.8C europian looking up or calculating to Fahr.,then you got the correct one.USA hospitals differ even the very base one.No wonder 300000die/year by faulty treatment.GB > Also check out Dr. 's website www.wilsonsthyroidsyndrome.com for people with low temps and metabolism yet normal thyroid labs. Works well with his long acting T3 or thyroid herbal therapies. Diane Culik MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 The best suppliment I have tsted for hypo thyroid (with mercery detox) is TH 207 enzymes and Idonine from BioCare, UK. Ruth Hälsomedicinska kliniken Human & Hund www.framtidsmedicin.nu>From: Rose s >Reply-qxci-english >qxci-english >Subject: Hypothyroid Epidemic >Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:33:30 -0800 > >Hello everyone > >How many of you fellow QX therapists out there are seeing indications of >hypothyroidism that have not been diagnosed or clients who are on >“syntheroid” for diagnosed hypothyroid? Well the syntheroid is not >working for most of them and the rest of them are not being diagnosed >because the doctors don’t realize that the tests for thyroid are not >always reliable indicators. You need to look at Dr Broda work to >see what I am talking about. I have listed his information below. I have >used thyro liquitrophic but found that sometimes clients needed more >than this. Right now I am also using a wonderful product called thyodine >for clients who test 100%on the QXCI.( will post that info below too). >However there are those cases, that really need desiccated raw thyroid >(ARMOUR.) The problem is that only doctors can prescribe this, and in >Canada you won’t find a doctor who will prescribe it, because the >College of Physicians and Surgeons will take away their license if they >prescribe it. I have posted Dr Derry’s story below. He was a British >Columbia doctor who helped thousands of patients get well using ARMOUR. >The “old boys club” with the help of the pharmaceutical mafia who makes >syntheroid found a way to snuff him out. This must be made public >somehow, as too many people are suffering and not one doctor other than >Dr Derry( my hero) was willing to do anything about it. If anyone has >any suggestions on how we can make some changes let me know. Any one >know how to get onto the Opra Show? Would be nice to get Dr Derry on her >show. I know a couple of months ago, Dr Phil’s wife was on the show >telling how she finally had to see a holistic practitioner to get help >for her hypothyroidism. The medical doctors told her it was all in her >head. > >Can someone tell me what the “ARMOUR” situation is in Europe? Can only >medical doctors prescribe it,-- and do they? Interestingly enough, >ARMOUR is available in our pharmacies, but if you ask a pharmacist he >will tell you it is almost never prescribed. >Sincerely >Rose s R.T >This section of the BITES site is to inform people about Dr. Derry's >legal battle, support Dr. Derry in his ongoing fight to return to the >practice of medicine, and provide background about the ... >www.bites-medical.org/dderry.html >Hypothyroidism - The Underdiagnosed Epidemic >By Ward Dean MD and Jeff >Why physicians won't prescribe its safe inexpensive cure and the dilemma >physicians face when prescribing natural thyroid hormone. >One of the most common (but often undiagnosed) causes of a variety of >seemingly unrelated symptoms, is that of underactive thyroid function, >or hypothyroidism. Dr. Broda , a brilliant, intuitive physician >and scientist, estimated that 40% of the adult population suffered from >this condition. >Hypothyroidism- the clinical picture >Some of the most common symptoms caused by hypothyroidism include poor >concentration, mental confusion, memory disturbances, cold hands and >feet, overweight, difficult weight loss, menstrual problems, dry skin, >thin hair, and low energy levels. Other symptoms include migraine >headaches, hypertension, depression, hypoglycaemia, atherosclerosis, >diabetes, infertility, and even acne. In his book, Hypothyroidism: The >Unsuspected Illness, Dr. described over 47 symptoms that may be >related to poor thyroid function (Table I). >Hypothyroidism- the diagnostic failures >Although many people exhibit symptoms of hypothyroidism, they usually >don't receive treatment for this condition if they have normal blood >test readings. >Their physicians often tell them that their symptoms are due to other >causes or that their problem is "all in their head". I have known many >patients who were referred to psychiatrists to treat their so-called >"psychosomatic" problems. However, when they were later given thyroid >replacement therapy, they improved dramatically. >Hypothyroidism- a better way >In the 1940s, Dr. realized that the blood tests were usually >inaccurate. Consequently, he developed a simple test to confirm >suspected low thyroid function using an ordinary thermometer. >He found that normal underarm or oral temperatures immediately upon >awakening in the morning (while still in bed) are in the range of 97.8 >to 98.2 degrees Fahrenheit. He believed that a temperature below 97.8 >indicated hypothyroidism; and one above 98.2, hyperthyroidism >(overactive thyroid). >Dr. recommended that the underarm temperature taken immediately >upon awakening be used to diagnose hypothyroidism. >Unfortunately, even today's highly sophisticated tests are no more >accurate than the tests used in Dr. ' era. >Therefore, I instruct my patients to take their temperature orally (as >opposed to underarm) immediately upon awakening in the morning as a >guide to diagnosis and treatment of hypothyroidism. >At the same time I have my patients check their resting pulse rate which >should be between 65-75. >If a patient exhibits hypothyroidism symptoms and his temperature is >below 97.8 Fahrenheit, I prescribe one grain (60 mg) of Armour >Desiccated Thyroid daily. >If no improvement is noted in two or three weeks, I instruct him to >increase the dose by another grain. >At each step, we monitor morning temperature and heart rate. If the >suspected hypothyroid symptoms are still present and the temperature is >still sub-normal, it is safe to continue to increase the dosage provided >that the patient's heart rate goes no higher than the mid-70s, and no >symptoms of hyperthyroidism are evident. (agitation, anxiety, poor >sleep, tremor of hand, palpitations). >Occasionally, it is necessary to go to 5 grains daily (which is full >replacement therapy!)--to obtain relief of symptoms. >It is not really necessary to perform periodic blood tests as I believe >it is more important to treat the patient rather than treating the blood >test. However, the blood tests are wise from a medical-legal >perspective. >Treatment of subclinical hypothyroidism with thyroid hormone is very >safe. There is little risk of excessive thyroid dosage if: >(1) the patient feels well; >(2) the temperature remains below 98.2; >(3) the pulse is less than 75 beats per minute; and >(4) the thyroid function tests remain normal. (Note that most >hypothyroid patients feel best with sub-normal TSH levels). >Hypothyroidism- why Armour thyroid? >Synthroid, the most commonly-prescribed hormone for hypothyroidism, >contains only one fraction of thyroid hormoneT4. >T4 is normally converted by the body into T3, the active form. I believe >that many hypothyroid patients are unable to efficiently perform this >conversion. Armour thyroid, on the other hand, is a desiccated >preparation of porcine thyroid, containing all thyroid hormone >factorsT2, T3, and T4. I have found that it is very difficult to provide >adequate thyroid supplementation with Synthroid without causing >patients to become thyrotoxic. >On the other hand, most patients who switch from Synthroid to >Armour thyroid, report that they feel much better with the >Armour product. The dramatic improvements that many of my patients >have achieved on thyroid therapy often appear miraculous. It is very >gratifying to hear a patient who has suffered for decades express how >their lives have been totally turned around by a few cents worth of >thyroid. >Unfortunately, most physicians have been bamboozled by the manufacturers >of synthetic thyroid hormone (Synthroid) into thinking that the >Armour thyroid product is an inferior, non-standardized drug. >Nothing could be farther from the truth. Most patients who switch from >Synthroid to Armour thyroid find that they feel much better when >taking the Armour product. >Physician's risk of Thyroid Therapy >Unfortunately, many physicians are reluctant to prescribe thyroid for >patients with normal blood tests because of the bias of the medical >establishment against treating hypothyroidism using Dr. ' >protocol. >In fact, a number of physicians have been censured by their medical >boards, and some have even lost their licenses! >For anyone who has any of the hypothyroid-related symptoms listed above, >I strongly recommend the books by Dr. or Dr. Langer >(listed below) for a more comprehensive discussion of this subject. >If you find that you are "reading about yourself," the chances are good >that you may be hypothyroid, and would probably benefit by >supplementation with Armour Dessicated Thyroid. >Hypothyroidism- Books >, B., Galton, L. Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness. New >York: Thorruss Y. Crowell Co., 1976. >Langer, S., Scheer, J. Solved: The Riddle of Illness. New Canaan, CT: >Keats, 1984. >Signs and Symptoms of Thyroid Deficiency > > >Study A >Study B > > >% of 77 cases >% of 100 cases > >Weakness >99 >98 > >Dry skin >97 >79 > >Coarse skin >97 >70 > >Lethargy >91 >85 > >Slow speech >91 >56 > >Edema (swelling) of eyelids >90 >86 > >Sensation of cold >89 >95 > >Decreased sweating >89 >68 > >Cold skin >83 >80 > >Thick tongue >82 >60 > >Edema of face >79 >95 > >Coarseness of hair >76 >75 > >Heart enlargement >68 >** > >Pallor of skin >67 >50 > >Impaired memory >66 >65 > >Constipation >61 >54 > >Gain in weight >59 >76 > >Loss of hair >57 >41 > >Pallor of lips >57 >50 > >Labored or difficult breathing >5 >72 > >Swelling of feet >55 >57 > >Hoarseness >2 >74 > >Loss of appetite >45 >40 > >Nervousness >35 >51 > >Excessive menstruation >32 >33 > >Deafness >30 >40 > >Poor heart sounds >30 >__** > >Pain over the heart >25 >16 > >Changes in back of eye >20 >__** > >Painful menstruation >18 >__** > >Loss of weight >13 >9 > >Emotional instability >11 >__** > >Choking sensation >9 >__** > >Fineness of hair >9 >__** > >Cyanosis (bluish discoloration of skin) >9 >__** > >Difficulty in swallowing >3 >__** > >Brittle nails >__** >41 > >Depression >__** >60 > >Muscle weakness >__** >61 > >Muscle pain >__** >36 > >Joint pain >__** >29 > >Burning or tingling sensations >__** >56 > >Heat intolerance >__** >2 > >Slowing of mental activity >__** >4 > >Slow movements >__** >73 >*From J.H. Means, L.H. DeGroot, and J.B. Stanbury, The Thyroid and its >Diseases, McGraw Hill, 1963, pp. 321-322. __**Not reported found >Hypothyroidism- IAS comments >IAS is currently offering Armour (as described by Dr. Dean) and a >desiccated thyroid supplement manufactured by VitOrgan of Germany called >Thyrium. VitOrgan was founded in the 1950's by Dr. H. Dyckerdorf; he >was the "founding father" of glandular and RNA therapies, and in fact is >generally considered to be responsible for the discovery of >freeze-drying (so you can think of him every time you drink a cup of >instant coffee!) >As such, VitOrgan are considered to be the "king" of glandular >supplements, having both extensive experience and an extensive range of >glandular products. The VitOrgan Thyrium is a bovine extracted >desiccated thyroid supplement in a D6 base. Whilst each tablet is 280mg >in size, we estimated that its equivalency to the Armour thyroid >mentioned here by Dr. Dean is "half-a-grain" per Thyrium tablet. It >is interesting to note that the Thyrium regime suggested by VitOrgan >is 1-3 tablets three times a day (after meals and dissolved in the >mouth) to treat asthma, migraine, gout and fat loss. >VitOrgan suggest that Thyrium can be used prophylactically every 2-3 >weeks for several days at a time. Use for hypothyroidism is probably not >suggested, because (like many other countries) the Germans have approved >synthetic T3 and T4 thyroid hormones for hypothyroidism, but as VitOrgan >state in their Thyrium insert "the bio-molecular agents regenerate >damaged organs and tissue and inspire the body's self healing processes >and normalise cell functions. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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