Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Thee rea electrical/energetic measurements. lack of symptoms is not necessarily a sign of good health Energetic disturbances come first: that is what you are lookibng at Read one of the manuals to understand better Kelsey varhop values Hallo dear Group Can someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence. The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Hi Uri, the way I understand it is that the proton pressure is related to an energetic pH with a normal range of 65 to 70. Below 65 is considered to be headed towards acidic and above 70 is considered to be alkaline. Electron pressure has a normal range of 70 to 75 and indicates body's overall electircal functioning. Any measure below 50 is seen as indicating a chronic reaction. This would point to the figures you suggested indicating a chronic reaction to an alkaline system. This could mean many things such as a chronic infection that the body has been fighting, people who have an alkaline diet or any other such things that could relate to a system being measured in such a way. Just some thoughts anyway. Hope this helps. Kind Regards varhop values Hallo dear GroupCan someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence.The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 How many silver(mercury) fillings do they have????????? varhop values Hallo dear Group Can someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence. The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Your response is correct, but the 75 and above range was not discussed. This tends to also be an acid condition, which may tend toward ammonia. How much of a bad breath issue is there? This tends to be the case. Yours in health, Kathy seantume <seantume@...> wrote: Hi Uri, the way I understand it is that the proton pressure is related to an energetic pH with a normal range of 65 to 70. Below 65 is considered to be headed towards acidic and above 70 is considered to be alkaline. Electron pressure has a normal range of 70 to 75 and indicates body's overall electircal functioning. Any measure below 50 is seen as indicating a chronic reaction. This would point to the figures you suggested indicating a chronic reaction to an alkaline system. This could mean many things such as a chronic infection that the body has been fighting, people who have an alkaline diet or any other such things that could relate to a system being measured in such a way. Just some thoughts anyway. Hope this helps. Kind Regards varhop values Hallo dear GroupCan someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence.The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Hi Kathy What is proton pressure 85 and above with an electron reading of 45 represent? Is it now alkaline or is it chronic acidic? What is the best way to correct such a reading? Could it be an autoimmune disease? If yes what? Many thanks for your valuable contributions. regards Sylvia varhop values Hallo dear GroupCan someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence.The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 You are saying that above 75 is also Acid? Acid blood? Acid stomach? Previous information said Above 70 is alkaline. What is really be said here? Re: varhop values Your response is correct, but the 75 and above range was not discussed. This tends to also be an acid condition, which may tend toward ammonia. How much of a bad breath issue is there? This tends to be the case. Yours in health, Kathy seantume <seantume@...> wrote: Hi Uri, the way I understand it is that the proton pressure is related to an energetic pH with a normal range of 65 to 70. Below 65 is considered to be headed towards acidic and above 70 is considered to be alkaline. Electron pressure has a normal range of 70 to 75 and indicates body's overall electircal functioning. Any measure below 50 is seen as indicating a chronic reaction. This would point to the figures you suggested indicating a chronic reaction to an alkaline system. This could mean many things such as a chronic infection that the body has been fighting, people who have an alkaline diet or any other such things that could relate to a system being measured in such a way. Just some thoughts anyway. Hope this helps. Kind Regards varhop values Hallo dear Group Can someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence. The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 Afraid so, the alkaline levels are very little 70 to 75 and that is all just as normal is only 65 to 70. Yours in Health, Kathy Clare <cadams@...> wrote: You are saying that above 75 is also Acid? Acid blood? Acid stomach? Previous information said Above 70 is alkaline. What is really be said here? -----Original Message-----From: Kathy [mailto:kathyqx@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:41 PMqxci-english Subject: Re: varhop values Your response is correct, but the 75 and above range was not discussed. This tends to also be an acid condition, which may tend toward ammonia. How much of a bad breath issue is there? This tends to be the case. Yours in health, Kathy seantume <seantume@...> wrote: Hi Uri, the way I understand it is that the proton pressure is related to an energetic pH with a normal range of 65 to 70. Below 65 is considered to be headed towards acidic and above 70 is considered to be alkaline. Electron pressure has a normal range of 70 to 75 and indicates body's overall electircal functioning. Any measure below 50 is seen as indicating a chronic reaction. This would point to the figures you suggested indicating a chronic reaction to an alkaline system. This could mean many things such as a chronic infection that the body has been fighting, people who have an alkaline diet or any other such things that could relate to a system being measured in such a way. Just some thoughts anyway. Hope this helps. Kind Regards varhop values Hallo dear GroupCan someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence.The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 It seems this is a very confusing issue of late for many, so let me point out a couple things that may help everyone. 1. If we are working with frequencies, which we are, then stop thinking of this as a Ph issue of blood, vs urine, vs tissue etc. This is a whole body issue. 2. To have any illness, any disease, any stress there WILL BE acid. Fact is, for a person to not be acidic is quite difficult. Especially the clients we see, most of us don't get the healthy individual, we get the medical rejects, those who the medical doctors have given up on, or that have given up on the medical doctors. It is RARE to have no acid condition for these people. So, with this in mind find the best Ph balancer you can and that you are comfortable with. Be that lemons/limes, Prime Ph or any other supplement or turning to a vegetarian diet. Help them balance. Have them get Ph strips and tell them to put this in that lovely cup of coffee and see how many drops of Ph balancer it takes to neutralize it. Much of our problem with Acid, is self induced, make them accountable for their actions whenever possible. Now, as to when the body becomes past acid into ammonia easiest thing I can say is smell there breath. Those who have this problem usually have VERY bad halitosis. You know it's funny, but so much of what we try to do starts out with this problem, and the fact that we have become toxic, chemical and pathogens, and due to a buildup in our elimination channels we can't get rid of it. If we do nothing else but start here, you will help greatly. Yours in Health, Kathy Sylvia Schmid <schmid@...> wrote: Hi Kathy What is proton pressure 85 and above with an electron reading of 45 represent? Is it now alkaline or is it chronic acidic? What is the best way to correct such a reading? Could it be an autoimmune disease? If yes what? Many thanks for your valuable contributions. regards Sylvia varhop values Hallo dear GroupCan someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence.The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 clare, i have little time presently, but must say something here... the proton pressure value indicates an acute acid situation below 65 and a chronic acid condition above 70, which means, we are dealing with AN INTRACELLULAR ACIDITY, which is extremely difficutl to get rid of. it takes a loooong time, and it can not be delt with by giving just alkaline minerals. check from nutrition panel into minerals.wehn you see calcium,potassium and magnesium in high figures, you know, there is too much acidity... since these are the alkaline minerals. an ill person hardly ever is alkaline, unless we are talking f.i. about cancer last stage.... hope, that clarifies your questions. marlene varhop values Hallo dear GroupCan someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence.The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Hi Kathy et all, Could I just ask a question relating to the pH issue. Could we be looking to much into the proton values with out assessing wether this possibility of acidity is a reality which is confirmed by other values and indicated physiology. Kelsey told us at the Australian semianr that you need to turn possibilities into probabilities. On the other side, I don't think that every value over under the normal range is indicative of acidity or alkalinity in everyone, and this may not be an indication of the normal range for everyone. (such as blood tests within mainstream medicine). Again, I think the indications of these values need to considered against other measurements within the QXCI and I think we have to remember that the measurements are for that point in time which may indicate something they ate that doesn't agree with them before the test. Just a thought anyway. Does this sound viable Kathy? Enjoying all your knowledge and insights! Kind Regards varhop values Hallo dear GroupCan someone tell me the meaning of: high Proton 80 or more, low Elektron 40 or less, and low Resistence 30 or less ? This combination of values occuered to me a few times now, once even with -3 Resistence.The three patients were`nt badly sick. Thank`s a lot Uri Lempert ............................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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