Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 The issue of alcohol is not the sugar but the yeast. In systemic candidiasis or in people who are yeast sensitive/allergic, yeast or yeast-like substances tend to aggravate the symptoms and should be avoided at least for 3 months while being treated. This includes all fermented beverages. If there are no allergic symptoms, gas, bloating etc. then there is no need to avoid the yeast promoting foods . Candida is a living organism, has to get rid of its waste. They produce an incredible amount of phenols, including acetyldehyde, which will give you the same effect as alcohol. If liver is not working properly, this can cause brain fog - so I would avoid alcohol if I had candida albicans. Controlling blood sugar is important. I have had clients who have got rid of candida and then after 1 year, despite good diet/supplements etc. they come back because new emotional issues/stress get blood sugar out of control amongst other things. Out of control blood sugar feeds the yeasts even though diet is free of sugar/refined carbos etc.. Diabetics find it very difficult to get rid of yeast infections. Most important is good digestion - alkaline mouth, acidic stomach (HCl), alkaline small intestine and acidic colon. This battery system of alkaline-acid-alkaline-acid in the GI tract must be achieved to enable the body to heal itself and control yeasties and beasties in the intestine. Take care, Azizah Duncan Crow wrote: , a PubMed search turned up that candida is a producer of alcohol; it doesn't live on its own waste, so alcohol is OK in the diet. In systemic candidiasis you can't hope to control the sugar feed to kill it; you have to activate immune response and perhaps kill it with antifungals; again, this has nothing to do with the alcohol even after it goes through the liver. There's no starch in the body except what hasn't been digested; your comment of "Caffeine etc stimns adrenals so mobiles starch from glycogen stores" doesn't reflect that sugar is always available to the candida in the blood. I mean, I'm not convinced changes in blood glucose levels are enough to affect candida growth. Duncan On 25 Jan 2007 at 9:55, qxci-english wrote: > Posted by: " Kelsey" johnbioenergypartnership (DOT) co.uk > bepkel2000 Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:51 am ((PST)) > > The primary feed for candida is sugar- this includes alcohol and > refined carbs- stable blood sugar is a main key so the critters dunna > get fed- hence yr experiences. takes liver an hour to process a unit > of alcohol- it is a carb, No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.14/657 - Release Date: 29/01/2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Interesting take, Duncan and thanks for all the info - we should be paying you! Thank you both for sharing your insights - even though opposing. It helps me make my own decisions! MarshallZone Manager for East BayQuantum Anti-Aging and Stress Reduction510-541-9079www.quantumstressreduction.com Re: Re: Candida and Trying to control diarrhea after removing 1 metre , a PubMed search turned up that candida is a producer of alcohol; it doesn't live on its own waste, so alcohol is OK in the diet. In systemic candidiasis you can't hope to control the sugar feed to kill it; you have to activate immune response and perhaps kill it with antifungals; again, this has nothing to do with the alcohol even after it goes through the liver.There's no starch in the body except what hasn't been digested; your comment of "Caffeine etc stimns adrenals so mobiles starch from glycogen stores" doesn't reflect that sugar is always available to the candida in the blood. I mean, I'm not convinced changes in blood glucose levels are enough to affect candida growth.DuncanOn 25 Jan 2007 at 9:55, qxci-english wrote:> Posted by: " Kelsey" johnbioenergypartnership (DOT) co.uk> bepkel2000 Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:51 am ((PST))> > The primary feed for candida is sugar- this includes alcohol and> refined carbs- stable blood sugar is a main key so the critters dunna> get fed- hence yr experiences. takes liver an hour to process a unit> of alcohol- it is a carb, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Hi Duncan, I would have thought that the issue is not whether any of the candidas live on their own waste, but rather that they "love" sugar. Consuming alcohol increases the sugar load on the body and therefore is conducive to promoting conditions for the proliferation of candida. It has always been my understanding that one of the measures that need to be undertaken to reduce or eliminate candidas in the body is the reduction of sugar in the diet - hence the reduction of alcohol in the diet. Why wouldn't lower blood glucose levels affect candida growth ? Duncan Crow wrote: , a PubMed search turned up that candida is a producer of alcohol; it doesn't live on its own waste, so alcohol is OK in the diet. In systemic candidiasis you can't hope to control the sugar feed to kill it; you have to activate immune response and perhaps kill it with antifungals; again, this has nothing to do with the alcohol even after it goes through the liver. There's no starch in the body except what hasn't been digested; your comment of "Caffeine etc stimns adrenals so mobiles starch from glycogen stores" doesn't reflect that sugar is always available to the candida in the blood. I mean, I'm not convinced changes in blood glucose levels are enough to affect candida growth. Duncan On 25 Jan 2007 at 9:55, qxci-english wrote: > Posted by: " Kelsey" johnbioenergypartnership (DOT) co.uk > bepkel2000 Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:51 am ((PST)) > > The primary feed for candida is sugar- this includes alcohol and > refined carbs- stable blood sugar is a main key so the critters dunna > get fed- hence yr experiences. takes liver an hour to process a unit > of alcohol- it is a carb, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 hello fellow EPFX'rs, remember the SPLEEN must be restored in all these fungal/candida clients. the spleen has the amazing ability to make a substance called myloperoxidase...it is the precursor to h2o2. Prof. developed a remedy to rebuild the hormone and immune function of the spleen, it is called Lieno (spleen) Liquitrophic., to compliment it, he also created a "nosode" formula called "Fungi-fuge" to focus the eyes of the spleen on fungal imbalances in the body...yes, diet is important, but w/o rebuilding and focusing the SPLEEN, diet will only hold fungal issues at bay. call us at White Dove Healing Arts to request practitioner prices for these formulas, and to learn about Prof. 's correspondence course called the "Homeo-Therapeutic Consultant Course"...Mr. Kelsey has now approved this course for IMUNE credits as does the NBCB here in the United States. sincerley, bill cunningham, International Advanced Certified Trainer for IMUNE Re: Re: Re: Candida and Trying to control diarrhea after removing 1 metre Hi Duncan,I would have thought that the issue is not whether any of the candidas live on their own waste, but rather that they "love" sugar.Consuming alcohol increases the sugar load on the body and therefore is conducive to promoting conditions for the proliferation of candida.It has always been my understanding that one of the measures that need to be undertaken to reduce or eliminate candidas in the body is the reduction of sugar in the diet - hence the reduction of alcohol in the diet. Why wouldn't lower blood glucose levels affect candida growth ?Duncan Crow wrote: , a PubMed search turned up that candida is a producer of alcohol; it doesn't live on its own waste, so alcohol is OK in the diet. In systemic candidiasis you can't hope to control the sugar feed to kill it; you have to activate immune response and perhaps kill it with antifungals; again, this has nothing to do with the alcohol even after it goes through the liver.There's no starch in the body except what hasn't been digested; your comment of "Caffeine etc stimns adrenals so mobiles starch from glycogen stores" doesn't reflect that sugar is always available to the candida in the blood. I mean, I'm not convinced changes in blood glucose levels are enough to affect candida growth.DuncanOn 25 Jan 2007 at 9:55, qxci-english wrote:> Posted by: " Kelsey" johnbioenergypartnership (DOT) co.uk> bepkel2000 Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:51 am ((PST))> > The primary feed for candida is sugar- this includes alcohol and> refined carbs- stable blood sugar is a main key so the critters dunna> get fed- hence yr experiences. takes liver an hour to process a unit> of alcohol- it is a carb, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 For any of you who have not studied with Bill Cunningham and have a desire to understand homeopathics and the items in the test matrix under DR (Doctor Recommends) or NV (New Vista) do so; I have yet to meet anyone who can compare to his knowledge. Yours in Health, Kathy" J. Cunningham" <billyrio3@...> wrote: hello fellow EPFX'rs, remember the SPLEEN must be restored in all these fungal/candida clients. the spleen has the amazing ability to make a substance called myloperoxidase...it is the precursor to h2o2. Prof. developed a remedy to rebuild the hormone and immune function of the spleen, it is called Lieno (spleen) Liquitrophic., to compliment it, he also created a "nosode" formula called "Fungi-fuge" to focus the eyes of the spleen on fungal imbalances in the body...yes, diet is important, but w/o rebuilding and focusing the SPLEEN, diet will only hold fungal issues at bay. call us at White Dove Healing Arts to request practitioner prices for these formulas, and to learn about Prof. 's correspondence course called the "Homeo-Therapeutic Consultant Course"...Mr. Kelsey has now approved this course for IMUNE credits as does the NBCB here in the United States. sincerley, bill cunningham, International Advanced Certified Trainer for IMUNE Re: Re: Re: Candida and Trying to control diarrhea after removing 1 metre Hi Duncan,I would have thought that the issue is not whether any of the candidas live on their own waste, but rather that they "love" sugar.Consuming alcohol increases the sugar load on the body and therefore is conducive to promoting conditions for the proliferation of candida.It has always been my understanding that one of the measures that need to be undertaken to reduce or eliminate candidas in the body is the reduction of sugar in the diet - hence the reduction of alcohol in the diet. Why wouldn't lower blood glucose levels affect candida growth ?Duncan Crow wrote: , a PubMed search turned up that candida is a producer of alcohol; it doesn't live on its own waste, so alcohol is OK in the diet. In systemic candidiasis you can't hope to control the sugar feed to kill it; you have to activate immune response and perhaps kill it with antifungals; again, this has nothing to do with the alcohol even after it goes through the liver.There's no starch in the body except what hasn't been digested; your comment of "Caffeine etc stimns adrenals so mobiles starch from glycogen stores" doesn't reflect that sugar is always available to the candida in the blood. I mean, I'm not convinced changes in blood glucose levels are enough to affect candida growth.DuncanOn 25 Jan 2007 at 9:55, qxci-english wrote:> Posted by: " Kelsey" johnbioenergypartnership (DOT) co.uk> bepkel2000 Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:51 am ((PST))> > The primary feed for candida is sugar- this includes alcohol and> refined carbs- stable blood sugar is a main key so the critters dunna> get fed- hence yr experiences. takes liver an hour to process a unit> of alcohol- it is a carb, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 your so sweet Kathy, I am humbled!...see you in Puerta Vallarta? blessings, bc Re: Re: Re: Candida and Trying to control diarrhea after removing 1 metre Hi Duncan,I would have thought that the issue is not whether any of the candidas live on their own waste, but rather that they "love" sugar.Consuming alcohol increases the sugar load on the body and therefore is conducive to promoting conditions for the proliferation of candida.It has always been my understanding that one of the measures that need to be undertaken to reduce or eliminate candidas in the body is the reduction of sugar in the diet - hence the reduction of alcohol in the diet. Why wouldn't lower blood glucose levels affect candida growth ?Duncan Crow wrote: , a PubMed search turned up that candida is a producer of alcohol; it doesn't live on its own waste, so alcohol is OK in the diet. In systemic candidiasis you can't hope to control the sugar feed to kill it; you have to activate immune response and perhaps kill it with antifungals; again, this has nothing to do with the alcohol even after it goes through the liver.There's no starch in the body except what hasn't been digested; your comment of "Caffeine etc stimns adrenals so mobiles starch from glycogen stores" doesn't reflect that sugar is always available to the candida in the blood. I mean, I'm not convinced changes in blood glucose levels are enough to affect candida growth.DuncanOn 25 Jan 2007 at 9:55, qxci-english wrote:> Posted by: " Kelsey" johnbioenergypartnership (DOT) co.uk> bepkel2000 Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:51 am ((PST))> > The primary feed for candida is sugar- this includes alcohol and> refined carbs- stable blood sugar is a main key so the critters dunna> get fed- hence yr experiences. takes liver an hour to process a unit> of alcohol- it is a carb, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 Hello Quantum Community, I too want to sing the praises of Bill Cunningham and White Dove Healing. I took the 2 day training and bought the HTC course .It contains 25 CDs of Prof nelson talking on Homeopathy. Listened to the whole set a few times thru. awesome. Also, I have found Bill Cunningham and and Shiloah at White Dove very helpful when I want to learn more about the formulas. Bill Cunningham will be in Santa feb 17 and 18 and if it isn't full you might consider attending. BlissZone Manager, Quantum Alliance, San Diego, CA" J. Cunningham" <billyrio3@...> wrote: your so sweet Kathy, I am humbled!...see you in Puerta Vallarta? blessings, bc Re: Re: Re: Candida and Trying to control diarrhea after removing 1 metre Hi Duncan,I would have thought that the issue is not whether any of the candidas live on their own waste, but rather that they "love" sugar.Consuming alcohol increases the sugar load on the body and therefore is conducive to promoting conditions for the proliferation of candida.It has always been my understanding that one of the measures that need to be undertaken to reduce or eliminate candidas in the body is the reduction of sugar in the diet - hence the reduction of alcohol in the diet. Why wouldn't lower blood glucose levels affect candida growth ?Duncan Crow wrote: , a PubMed search turned up that candida is a producer of alcohol; it doesn't live on its own waste, so alcohol is OK in the diet. In systemic candidiasis you can't hope to control the sugar feed to kill it; you have to activate immune response and perhaps kill it with antifungals; again, this has nothing to do with the alcohol even after it goes through the liver.There's no starch in the body except what hasn't been digested; your comment of "Caffeine etc stimns adrenals so mobiles starch from glycogen stores" doesn't reflect that sugar is always available to the candida in the blood. I mean, I'm not convinced changes in blood glucose levels are enough to affect candida growth.DuncanOn 25 Jan 2007 at 9:55, qxci-english wrote:> Posted by: " Kelsey" johnbioenergypartnership (DOT) co.uk> bepkel2000 Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:51 am ((PST))> > The primary feed for candida is sugar- this includes alcohol and> refined carbs- stable blood sugar is a main key so the critters dunna> get fed- hence yr experiences. takes liver an hour to process a unit> of alcohol- it is a carb, Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 thank you ...we had a wonderful time with you all! bc and staff Re: Re: Re: Candida and Trying to control diarrhea after removing 1 metre Hi Duncan,I would have thought that the issue is not whether any of the candidas live on their own waste, but rather that they "love" sugar.Consuming alcohol increases the sugar load on the body and therefore is conducive to promoting conditions for the proliferation of candida.It has always been my understanding that one of the measures that need to be undertaken to reduce or eliminate candidas in the body is the reduction of sugar in the diet - hence the reduction of alcohol in the diet. Why wouldn't lower blood glucose levels affect candida growth ?Duncan Crow wrote: , a PubMed search turned up that candida is a producer of alcohol; it doesn't live on its own waste, so alcohol is OK in the diet. In systemic candidiasis you can't hope to control the sugar feed to kill it; you have to activate immune response and perhaps kill it with antifungals; again, this has nothing to do with the alcohol even after it goes through the liver.There's no starch in the body except what hasn't been digested; your comment of "Caffeine etc stimns adrenals so mobiles starch from glycogen stores" doesn't reflect that sugar is always available to the candida in the blood. I mean, I'm not convinced changes in blood glucose levels are enough to affect candida growth.DuncanOn 25 Jan 2007 at 9:55, qxci-english wrote:> Posted by: " Kelsey" johnbioenergypartnership (DOT) co.uk> bepkel2000 Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:51 am ((PST))> > The primary feed for candida is sugar- this includes alcohol and> refined carbs- stable blood sugar is a main key so the critters dunna> get fed- hence yr experiences. takes liver an hour to process a unit> of alcohol- it is a carb, Bored stiff? Loosen up...Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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