Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 >From: " Rodney " <perspect1111@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] Noticeable Beneficial Effects .............. >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:17:22 -0000 > >Hi folks: > >There is only one nutritional supplement I have ever taken that I >believe produces noticeable beneficial effects. I have been taking >it for years and still take it weekly. It is chromium picolinate. A >diabetic friend mentioned to me years ago that chromium was critical >in enabling insulin to release energy. Well, kinda: " How insulin works—it has 3 main roles: 1. Regulates the liver from releasing too much glucose (I like to say that insulin leans up against the door of the liver and only lets a little glucose out at a time). When there is enough glucose in the blood, insulin tells the liver to shut down its production of glucose. 2. Acts as a " doorman, or key " to open the doors of the cells (called receptors) and to allow glucose to enter the cells so the glucose can then be turned into energy. 3. Acts as a " traffic cop " , directing some of the glucose to be stored back into the liver and the muscles, and if you eat more than you need, the excess energy is stored as fat. " > >I take one capsule a week (200 mcg chromium). Other chromium >compounds do not seem to have any effects. The benefit I think I see >is better brain function. I am better organized, and it seems I am >better able to solve detail-type problems. > >To give an example, I normally take the capsule on the weekend. If >on Tuesday or Wednesday I am working on, say, some complicated >computer programming problem and I just can't seem to get my brain in >gear to solve it, I am now in the habit of asking myself " did I take >my chromium this week? " Often the answer turns out to be " No " . I >don't seem to have those problems if I take this small quantity of >chromium on the weekend. This has happened often enough now that I >am persuaded it is real. And I am also persuaded that it is not >psycho-somatic because no other supplement (not even other chromium >supplements) have the same (or for that matter any) effects. > >It is easy to rationalize that some people need more chromium from >their diet than others. And also that farmland that has been in use >for hundreds of years may now be rather depleted in some trace >nutrients. > >The following article, although it reads a bit like a sales pitch, >especially at the end, does provide some useful information on the >topic. The article mentions quite a few other apparently beneficial >effects, beyond those I believe I notice. > >FWIW. Caveat swallowor. > >http://www.foodingredientsfirst.com/newsmaker_article.asp? >idNewsMaker=5954 & fSite=AO545 > >http://snipurl.com/79ar > >Rodney. > > > > > I believe it was Ames' research that led to Dr. Walford's >recommendation of > > ALC and ALA: .................... > > I've not noticed anyting I could attribute to either supplement, >but then > > again, rarely have I ever noticed any effect from any supplement >(excepting > > caffeine!) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 I see that it's to be banned - latest date is end of July - in Europe. Right now I see that Holland and Barrett in the UK has it. I'd like to try it as anything that helps the brain is OK with me but Spain prohibits many products that are available in the US. On the other hand this can sometimes be an advantage. We dont have Monsanto BGH injected cows over in Europe and do not accept any US dairy products. Canary Peg > > > I believe it was Ames' research that led to Dr. Walford's > recommendation of > > ALC and ALA: .................... > > I've not noticed anyting I could attribute to either supplement, > but then > > again, rarely have I ever noticed any effect from any supplement > (excepting > > caffeine!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Hi Peg: Yes. But you should read the entire (summary) literature on the subject. Particularly the US analysis of it. There have now been many extensive tests in animals and humans at doses enormously much higher than anyone would want to take, and NONE of these studies has shown any negative effects. There was one in vitro result found in Europe somewhere, that clearly does not occur in living things. But check the data out for yourself and draw your own conclusion. Chromium picolinate is picolinic acid with some chromium atoms swithed for the hydrogen. Chromium is an essential trace nutrient, and picolinic acid is a not infrequent compound found naturally in animals. 'Chromax' is a brand name for chromium picolinate. There are a number of different brands available. This is from the National Institutes of Health (NIH - US Government website): " The ENVIRON Health Sciences Institute, 4350 North Fairfax Drive, Suite 300, Arlington, VA 22203, USA. tberner@... Trivalent chromium is an essential element required for normal carbohydrate, lipid, and protein metabolism in humans and animals. This article describes how one particular form of trivalent chromium, chromium tripicolinate (Chromax), a stable complex of trivalent chromium and picolinic acid, was determined to be safe for use as a nutrient supplement in foods (i.e., nutritional bars and beverages). A safety assessment of a nutrient supplement for use in food requires an evaluation of the safety of the product (Chromax), as well as an evaluation of the safety of the intended dietary ingredient (chromium tripicolinate). In this assessment, the production process, final product specifications, and product analysis results for Chromax were evaluated to determine the safety of the final product. Then, the Estimated Daily Intakes (EDIs) of trivalent chromium and picolinic acid from the proposed use of Chromax were calculated using data from the USDA's most recent Continuing Survey of Food Intakes by Individuals. The EDI for trivalent chromium was compared to the Acceptable Daily Intake (ADI) for this compound derived from animal studies, corroborated with human data, while the EDI for picolinic acid was compared to existing in vivo exposure to this compound that occurs naturally in the body. As long as the EDI of trivalent chromium is less than the ADI for this compound and the EDI of picolinic acid is less than its estimated in vivo exposure, Chromax can be considered safe for its intended use. Employing this approach, it was determined that Chromax is safe, as well as generally recognized as safe (GRAS), for use in nutritional bars and beverages as a nutrient supplement at a maximum use level of 2.4 mg of Chromax per product serving. " http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15110112 http://snipurl.com/79m2 Or try a Google search using the wording " safety chromium picolinate " . You will get lots of references, some noting that it has been designated 'GRAS' - i.e. 'generally recognized as safe' for use in food products in the US. Rodney. --- In , " Peg Diamond " <enmuffins@y...> wrote: > I see that it's to be banned - latest date is end of July - in Europe. > Right now I see that Holland and Barrett in the UK has it. > I'd like to try it as anything that helps the brain is OK with me but > Spain prohibits many products that are available in the US. > > On the other hand this can sometimes be an advantage. We > dont have Monsanto BGH injected cows over in Europe and do > not accept any US dairy products. > > Canary Peg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Rodney, Just once a week for the chromium picolinate? Wonder of wonders I managed to get some of it here " Nature Essential " is the brand and it comes 50 tabs of 200 mcg for 6.35 Euros ($7.60) The dosage says one a day. Canary Peg --- In , " Rodney " <perspect1111@y...> wrote: > Hi folks: > > There is only one nutritional supplement I have ever taken that I > believe produces noticeable beneficial effects. I have been taking > it for years and still take it weekly. It is chromium picolinate. A > diabetic friend mentioned to me years ago that chromium was critical > in enabling insulin to release energy. > > I take one capsule a week (200 mcg chromium). Other chromium > compounds do not seem to have any effects. The benefit I think I see > is better brain function. I am better organized, and it seems I am > better able to solve detail-type problems. > > To give an example, I normally take the capsule on the weekend. If > on Tuesday or Wednesday I am working on, say, some complicated > computer programming problem and I just can't seem to get my brain in > gear to solve it, I am now in the habit of asking myself " did I take > my chromium this week? " Often the answer turns out to be " No " . I > don't seem to have those problems if I take this small quantity of > chromium on the weekend. This has happened often enough now that I > am persuaded it is real. And I am also persuaded that it is not > psycho-somatic because no other supplement (not even other chromium > supplements) have the same (or for that matter any) effects. > > It is easy to rationalize that some people need more chromium from > their diet than others. And also that farmland that has been in use > for hundreds of years may now be rather depleted in some trace > nutrients. > > The following article, although it reads a bit like a sales pitch, > especially at the end, does provide some useful information on the > topic. The article mentions quite a few other apparently beneficial > effects, beyond those I believe I notice. > > FWIW. Caveat swallowor. > > http://www.foodingredientsfirst.com/newsmaker_article.asp? > idNewsMaker=5954 & fSite=AO545 > > http://snipurl.com/79ar > > Rodney. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Hi Peg: Great. Of course if you aren't deficient in chromium it may not benefit you. But try and see. Chromium is essential, but only in microscopically small quantities. Once a week is what I do. Rodney. > > Hi folks: > > > > There is only one nutritional supplement I have ever taken that I > > believe produces noticeable beneficial effects. I have been taking > > it for years and still take it weekly. It is chromium picolinate. A > > diabetic friend mentioned to me years ago that chromium was critical > > in enabling insulin to release energy. > > > > I take one capsule a week (200 mcg chromium). Other chromium > > compounds do not seem to have any effects. The benefit I think I see > > is better brain function. I am better organized, and it seems I am > > better able to solve detail-type problems. > > > > To give an example, I normally take the capsule on the weekend. If > > on Tuesday or Wednesday I am working on, say, some complicated > > computer programming problem and I just can't seem to get my brain in > > gear to solve it, I am now in the habit of asking myself " did I take > > my chromium this week? " Often the answer turns out to be " No " . I > > don't seem to have those problems if I take this small quantity of > > chromium on the weekend. This has happened often enough now that I > > am persuaded it is real. And I am also persuaded that it is not > > psycho-somatic because no other supplement (not even other chromium > > supplements) have the same (or for that matter any) effects. > > > > It is easy to rationalize that some people need more chromium from > > their diet than others. And also that farmland that has been in use > > for hundreds of years may now be rather depleted in some trace > > nutrients. > > > > The following article, although it reads a bit like a sales pitch, > > especially at the end, does provide some useful information on the > > topic. The article mentions quite a few other apparently beneficial > > effects, beyond those I believe I notice. > > > > FWIW. Caveat swallowor. > > > > http://www.foodingredientsfirst.com/newsmaker_article.asp? > > idNewsMaker=5954 & fSite=AO545 > > > > http://snipurl.com/79ar > > > > Rodney. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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