Re: re. salt lamps ,blood brain barrier, neg ion water

December 17, 2005

I agree 100% that lots of people with " chronic disease " of various sorts

have lots in common. We see many similarities with various friends with

these problems; some have developed ES, others haven't. We can definitely

all learn from each other's experiences. I would also suggest that anyone

with these types of chronic symptoms needs to be extra careful to avoid

possible triggers for ES. We wish we had!

Ian

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Evie

Sent: 17 December 2005 21:27

Subject: Re: Re: re. salt lamps ,blood brain barrier, neg ion water

Hi,

I agree with you, Shoshoe. I have a condition that necessitates ingesting

more salt (orthostatic hypotension). I eat ALOT of salt; salt actually

gives me energy. On the bell shape curve, I imagine you would find there

are less who are like me, in needing salt, but none the less, I would not be

there alone. I, and people like me, probably would react favorably to salt

in any form. I guess this is one reason why we all have to try so many

supplements and fixes for our various health problems.

I do not have ES, btw; I am always careful to point that out incase

someone should forget. However, I did note, and was interested in the

recent list of articles on ES that one of the posters sent. There were a

couple articles that mentioned particular frequencies compromising the blood

brain barrier. And that is exactly what is wrong with people who have

celiac disease--a protein called zonulin goes awry and opens up the tight

junctions in the gut, blood brain barrier, and some say, the lungs. I never

cease to be amazed at the things I have in common with those of you here.

That is why I have stayed despite not having ES. I am not trying to say

that all of you here have celiac disease, btw. Just stating that there

appears to be commonalities between our disorders. And I do think that many

with ES do respond to salt and other supplements that I personally find

helpful. It would be interesting to find out if various fr equecies not

only influence the tight junctions in the

blood brain barrier, but also the gut (and lungs). That would explain why

many people with ES have digestive symptoms and also why gut dysbiosis is so

common.

On that subject, I wanted to write Marc to rethank him for the info he

sent me re Mega-Hydrin. I looked it up and was not able to take that

particular supplement due to it having sugar or sweetener in it (can't

remember which). I noted that there was a similar product called " Hydrogen

Boost " , however, which I did order. I noticed a spurt of energy from that

product, but it didn't last long enough. I sent for some pH strips to check

my pH after taking the hydrogen boost, and did a search online to find a

company that sold those. When that company (Phion) sent me the pH strips,

they sent me a catalog of their products. They sold a product that

restructures water--increases the pH and adds negative hydrogen ions to the

water. I ordered that and it has REALLY been helping. I was sick for about

2-3 weeks from die-off--it was actually killing off gut critters and I could

feel it. Since then my energy has been increasing and I have been able to

cut down the amount of NADH I was

taking to less than half so far (NADH did the same thing, essentially, but

it was very pricey.)

Marc, you told me to tell you if I tried the negative ion water and it

helped. This is not what I originally wrote you about--I was asking about a

negative hydrogen ion water machine. However, this additive to water seems

to be helping so much that now I am definitely going to invest the

$1000-$1500 to try the actual machine. The water restructuring drops are

fairly expensive. It restructures 20 gallons of water for about $40. I

just tried the restructuring drops to see if hydrogen ion water would make a

difference for me. After the holidays, I am going to send for the machine.

If you have any info re a particular one that you have heard is good, I

would appreciate any info. I will let you know how that goes.

Happy holidays to All,

Diane

snoshoe_2 <nonengbunny@...> wrote:

I think we do need to be careful calling things fairy tales that we

don't know about too.

I'd just about bet everyone of us here has had people think we are

lunatics, liars, or living in lala land, because they haven't yet

felt the fields we do.

Perla is right, fairy tales mostly start out with some fact behind

them, even if gets distorted over time. Ie.. 3 little pigs, and

other wolf stories, King Arthur, etc.

Even if they haven't worked for some of us here,apparently all those

people who go down to sit in the salt caves are getting some benefit,

or they wouldn't be doing it. Perhaps, like I said before, it's not

just neg. ions, but some other factors.

Frequency of salt perhaps, or combo. of that with other conditions.

~ Snoshoe

>

> recently posted someting very interesting about these

salt

> lamps, I am going to repost it below. Thanks, .

>

> From: " charles " <charles@m...>

> Subject: Re: neg. ions from salt

>

> I do have an air ion counter.

> And I have counted the air ions coming from those salt lamps.

> I found zilch.

> None.

>

> On the other hand, I have found that the present negative air ions

are

> killed by the electrosmog.

>

> From a distance of 200 meters from a mobile phone mast and then at a

> distance of 60 meters, only 50 % are remaining.

> The same goes for a cordless DECT phone at 1 meter to 15 cm; 50 %

wasted.

>

> Many years ago, we had some 3.000-4.000 negative air ions per cm3;

nowadays

> that amounts to 300-400 per cm3.

> In the vicinity of phone masts that number may go down to 100 and

even 80

> per cm3.

>

> The negative air ions work like an air police.

> They attach to dust particles, polls and virusses.

> Because they are in so little numbers, they can not catch all

virusses.

> So virusses can go freely through the air, many kilometers.

> See?

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

>

December 18, 2005

Hi, Ian,

Which triggers do you especially suggest to avoid? I know my parents bought

me a cell phone for Christmas (to take in my car because it is 13 yo and they

are afraid I am going to break down in a snow drift or something). I am not too

sure I want the phone!

Unlike you, I do not see many similarities with MOST chronically ill people.

I do see alot of similarities among people with CFS/ME, MCS, FMS, celiac

disease, and ES. Also with some of the other digestive problems like IBS and

Crohns. One odd thing is that so many people with one of these syndromes go on

to have so many more of these syndromes. Like me--they tend to attract more and

more syndromes. I now know that the zonulin tight junction problem is a source

for the multiple syndrome issue. This has been proven. Celiac disease causes

autoimmune dysfunction (which leads to further auto-immune disease) due to the

leaky gut/tight junction problem. I did not know, however, that anything other

than celiac reaction to glutens could influence this until I read here re the

radio frequencies causing this in rats. This should be monumental research and

yet it is hardly known, just as with the zonulin discovery for celiac disease.

I have a couple research articles, btw, which links diabetes directly to

zonulin protein defect in celiac disease, if anyone here wants them. If you do,

I will send them direct and not thru this list, due to it being off subject. It

might be after the holidays before I send them, depending on how many here

request and on how out of hand my schedule gets due to the holidays.

It would be very interesting to know if the tight junction problem in ES

causes the same auto-immune dysfunction as celiac, thereby causing multiple

syndromes. In Sue's case, it looks like it possibly has, unless her ES is

instead a result rather than the cause of her multiple health problems. Thanks

for your input, Ian.

Happy holidays,

Mia

Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...> wrote: