Guest guest Posted December 31, 1997 Report Share Posted December 31, 1997 Hi Bruce Thanks for this wonderful explanation. I have another question, does coconut oil only fight " lipid coated virus " as some people claim? Is it correct to think that the MCFAs in coconut oil come in different kinds/variety to help fight bacteria, etc? Thanks Re: Lauric Acid, Monolaurin,and coconut oil in the body - antiviral? > > pssst! Rowena - Bruce is on this very list and can answer personally! > > Really! Wow! Hi Bruce! Haven't got your book yet, just started, finding > my feet from what's on the net so far. > > I am slightly less ignorant already having been on the Med-Chem Lauricidin > site. > > Still, the statement was made by the other firm's product specialist that > Coconut oil has no viricidal action whatever. So what I've been asked to > try to find out is: > > > a.. Does the body convert lauricidin from coconut oil into monolaurin? > b.. If it does, is it as efficacious as supplemental monolaurin? > c.. If it doesn't, is coconut oil still antiviral? > I'm getting the impression we don't really know how the body does it, but > that it does. I'm supposing that the benefit of the supplements is > getting masses of the active ingredient in a small pill. Easier to put in > the bathroom cabinet than half a dozen coconuts. Take three coconuts > three times a day. Or three spoonfuls of oil. > > Thanks for whatever information I can take to the fibromyalgia sufferers. > > Rowena > Australia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Rowena, Several authors have given the mistaken impression that it is only monolaurin that gives coconut oil its antiviral and antibacterial action. This is not correct. Our bodies do make monolaurin from the lauric acid in coconut oil. But that is not the main source of coconut oil's antimicrobail action. Only about 8-10% of the lauric acid in coconut oil is converted into monolaurin in our bodies. Coconut oil gets most of its antimicrobial effects from the medium-chain fatty acids (MCFAs) themselves. All of the medium-chain fatty acids, not just lauric acid, kill bacteria and viruses, as well as fungi/yeast. It is the MCFAs that make coconut oil effective against infections, monolaurin is helpful, but is not the main player. Monolaurin is good, but I prefer pure coconut oil. The reason is that each MCFA has different effects on different microorganisms. Some are very effective against certain viruses, while others are more effective against other viruses. All of the MCFAs work synergistically together enhancing the effects of each. It is interesting, that in the HIV study in the Philippines pure coconut oil was more effective in treating HIV than pure monolaurin. People with HIV have lowered their viral counts, many to non-detectable levels using coconut oil or fresh coconut. I have heard the testimonies of many people with a variety of conditions including fibromyalgia, influenza, hepatitis C, Crohn's disease, and numerous others who have experienced dramatic improvement with nothing more than pure coconut oil. Bruce Re: Lauric Acid, Monolaurin,and coconut oil in the body - antiviral? > > pssst! Rowena - Bruce is on this very list and can answer personally! > > Really! Wow! Hi Bruce! Haven't got your book yet, just started, finding > my feet from what's on the net so far. > > I am slightly less ignorant already having been on the Med-Chem Lauricidin > site. > > Still, the statement was made by the other firm's product specialist that > Coconut oil has no viricidal action whatever. So what I've been asked to > try to find out is: > > > a.. Does the body convert lauricidin from coconut oil into monolaurin? > b.. If it does, is it as efficacious as supplemental monolaurin? > c.. If it doesn't, is coconut oil still antiviral? > I'm getting the impression we don't really know how the body does it, but > that it does. I'm supposing that the benefit of the supplements is > getting masses of the active ingredient in a small pill. Easier to put in > the bathroom cabinet than half a dozen coconuts. Take three coconuts > three times a day. Or three spoonfuls of oil. > > Thanks for whatever information I can take to the fibromyalgia sufferers. > > Rowena > Australia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 , MCFA can kill other organisms besides lipid coated viruses, but they appear to be most effective against lipid coated organisms. Coconut oil contains about 11 different fatty acids, all of which fight harmful microorganisms to one extent or another. The MCFA are the most potent. Bruce Re: Lauric Acid, Monolaurin,and coconut > oil in the body - antiviral? > > > > > > pssst! Rowena - Bruce is on this very list and can answer personally! > > > > Really! Wow! Hi Bruce! Haven't got your book yet, just started, > finding > > my feet from what's on the net so far. > > > > I am slightly less ignorant already having been on the Med-Chem > Lauricidin > > site. > > > > Still, the statement was made by the other firm's product specialist > that > > Coconut oil has no viricidal action whatever. So what I've been asked > to > > try to find out is: > > > > > > a.. Does the body convert lauricidin from coconut oil into monolaurin? > > b.. If it does, is it as efficacious as supplemental monolaurin? > > c.. If it doesn't, is coconut oil still antiviral? > > I'm getting the impression we don't really know how the body does it, > but > > that it does. I'm supposing that the benefit of the supplements is > > getting masses of the active ingredient in a small pill. Easier to put > in > > the bathroom cabinet than half a dozen coconuts. Take three coconuts > > three times a day. Or three spoonfuls of oil. > > > > Thanks for whatever information I can take to the fibromyalgia > sufferers. > > > > Rowena > > Australia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Re: Lauric Acid, Monolaurin,and coconut oil in the body - antiviral? > , > > MCFA can kill other organisms besides lipid coated viruses, but they > appear > to be most effective against lipid coated organisms. Coconut oil contains > about 11 different fatty acids, all of which fight harmful microorganisms > to > one extent or another. The MCFA are the most potent. > > Bruce Bruce, Do you have any links handy on info related to coconut oil and Hepatitis-C? I have a friend with hep C. She has been nervous about trying it. I suspect because she has had problems with an over-active thyroid & coconut oil stimulates the thyroid. Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Sorry to be ignorant, Bruce, but where could one find details / results of the study you mentioned: in the HIV study in the Philippines pure coconut oil was more effective in treating HIV than pure monolaurin. Thanks Rowena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 hi rowena: regarding the details of the Study of Coconut Oils and AIDS by a Doctor in the Philippines. I uploaded a PDF file into the Groups FILE Folder: Coconut Oil/files/ Entitled: Dayrit Philippines.pdf Philippines, Dr. Dayrit Study on Coconut Oil and AIDS I got his from another Website: discussing Coconut Oil: http://www.apcc.org.sg/Dayrit.PDF Hope this helps, Denz > Sorry to be ignorant, Bruce, but where could one find details / results of > the study you mentioned: > in the HIV study in the Philippines pure coconut oil was more effective in > treating HIV than pure monolaurin. > Thanks > Rowena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 bruce i have a friend who has fibromyalgia. can yu give me the absic info on how coconut oil works on it. thanks and see you in Manila soon. selina --- Bruce Fife <bruce@...> wrote: > > Rowena, > > Several authors have given the mistaken impression > that it is only > monolaurin that gives coconut oil its antiviral and > antibacterial action. > This is not correct. Our bodies do make monolaurin > from the lauric acid in > coconut oil. But that is not the main source of > coconut oil's antimicrobail > action. Only about 8-10% of the lauric acid in > coconut oil is converted into > monolaurin in our bodies. Coconut oil gets most of > its antimicrobial effects > from the medium-chain fatty acids (MCFAs) > themselves. All of the > medium-chain fatty acids, not just lauric acid, kill > bacteria and viruses, > as well as fungi/yeast. It is the MCFAs that make > coconut oil effective > against infections, monolaurin is helpful, but is > not the main player. > > Monolaurin is good, but I prefer pure coconut oil. > The reason is that each > MCFA has different effects on different > microorganisms. Some are very > effective against certain viruses, while others are > more effective against > other viruses. All of the MCFAs work synergistically > together enhancing the > effects of each. > > It is interesting, that in the HIV study in the > Philippines pure coconut oil > was more effective in treating HIV than pure > monolaurin. People with HIV > have lowered their viral counts, many to > non-detectable levels using coconut > oil or fresh coconut. I have heard the testimonies > of many people with a > variety of conditions including fibromyalgia, > influenza, hepatitis C, > Crohn's disease, and numerous others who have > experienced dramatic > improvement with nothing more than pure coconut oil. > > Bruce > > Re: Lauric Acid, > Monolaurin,and coconut > oil in the body - antiviral? > > > > > > pssst! Rowena - Bruce is on this very list and > can answer personally! > > > > Really! Wow! Hi Bruce! Haven't got your book > yet, just started, finding > > my feet from what's on the net so far. > > > > I am slightly less ignorant already having been on > the Med-Chem Lauricidin > > site. > > > > Still, the statement was made by the other firm's > product specialist that > > Coconut oil has no viricidal action whatever. So > what I've been asked to > > try to find out is: > > > > > > a.. Does the body convert lauricidin from coconut > oil into monolaurin? > > b.. If it does, is it as efficacious as > supplemental monolaurin? > > c.. If it doesn't, is coconut oil still > antiviral? > > I'm getting the impression we don't really know > how the body does it, but > > that it does. I'm supposing that the benefit of > the supplements is > > getting masses of the active ingredient in a small > pill. Easier to put in > > the bathroom cabinet than half a dozen coconuts. > Take three coconuts > > three times a day. Or three spoonfuls of oil. > > > > Thanks for whatever information I can take to the > fibromyalgia sufferers. > > > > Rowena > > Australia > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Hi Rowena - To look at the " archives " , just go to the group's group site below and click on " messages " . That's the " archive " . You'll find all the messages there. You can put a " keyword " into the " search " block and click on " go " and it will search for you, but it only searches a page at a time. After each search, click on " next " and it searches the next page of messages. If it doesn't find your keyword, it will say " no search results found " or something like that. Just click on " next " . Hope that helps! HYPERLINK " Coconut Oil/ " http://health. /group/Coconut Oil/ Carolsea Re: Re: Lauric Acid, Monolaurin,and coconut oil in the body - antiviral? Many thanks! Interesting! I tried to look at the archives, but could not work out how to get at them! Rowena regarding the details of the Study of Coconut Oils and AIDS by a Doctor in the Philippines. I uploaded a PDF file into the Groups FILE Folder: HYPERLINK " Coconut Oil/files/ " http://h ealth./group/Coconut Oil/files/ Entitled: Dayrit Philippines.pdf Philippines, Dr. Dayrit Study on Coconut Oil and AIDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Selina, Nobody really knows what causes fibromyalgia. There seems to be some link with chronic fatigue and some believe a viral infection is involved. Coconut oil possibly can help kill the virus as well as boost energy. Some people with fibromyalgia have reported relief from pain after they begin using coconut oil. Bruce Re: Lauric Acid, >> Monolaurin,and coconut >> oil in the body - antiviral? >> >> >> > >> > pssst! Rowena - Bruce is on this very list and >> can answer personally! >> > >> > Really! Wow! Hi Bruce! Haven't got your book >> yet, just started, finding >> > my feet from what's on the net so far. >> > >> > I am slightly less ignorant already having been on >> the Med-Chem Lauricidin >> > site. >> > >> > Still, the statement was made by the other firm's >> product specialist that >> > Coconut oil has no viricidal action whatever. So >> what I've been asked to >> > try to find out is: >> > >> > >> > a.. Does the body convert lauricidin from coconut >> oil into monolaurin? >> > b.. If it does, is it as efficacious as >> supplemental monolaurin? >> > c.. If it doesn't, is coconut oil still >> antiviral? >> > I'm getting the impression we don't really know >> how the body does it, but >> > that it does. I'm supposing that the benefit of >> the supplements is >> > getting masses of the active ingredient in a small >> pill. Easier to put in >> > the bathroom cabinet than half a dozen coconuts. >> Take three coconuts >> > three times a day. Or three spoonfuls of oil. >> > >> > Thanks for whatever information I can take to the >> fibromyalgia sufferers. >> > >> > Rowena >> > Australia >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Thanks Bruce and hope to see you soon in Manila. Re: Lauric Acid, Monolaurin,and coconut > oil in the body - antiviral? > > > > > > pssst! Rowena - Bruce is on this very list and can answer personally! > > > > Really! Wow! Hi Bruce! Haven't got your book yet, just started, > finding > > my feet from what's on the net so far. > > > > I am slightly less ignorant already having been on the Med-Chem > Lauricidin > > site. > > > > Still, the statement was made by the other firm's product specialist > that > > Coconut oil has no viricidal action whatever. So what I've been asked > to > > try to find out is: > > > > > > a.. Does the body convert lauricidin from coconut oil into monolaurin? > > b.. If it does, is it as efficacious as supplemental monolaurin? > > c.. If it doesn't, is coconut oil still antiviral? > > I'm getting the impression we don't really know how the body does it, > but > > that it does. I'm supposing that the benefit of the supplements is > > getting masses of the active ingredient in a small pill. Easier to put > in > > the bathroom cabinet than half a dozen coconuts. Take three coconuts > > three times a day. Or three spoonfuls of oil. > > > > Thanks for whatever information I can take to the fibromyalgia > sufferers. > > > > Rowena > > Australia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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