Hi, I'm new here and honestly don't know where to start...

[Guest guest]

Hi all. A few months back my town went wi-fi, which co-incidentally or

not is where my problems began. I began experiencing a sunburn of type

on my face from my lcd tft monitor (which I was told couldn't happen

by people who saw me experience it firsthand). It's all there the

stinging red face, tingling, nausea, pain behind the eyes, tightening

of the forehead, bumps on my head, eye strain...all

unexplainable...until I found someone with the same symptoms and

problem on a forum I posted at. He directed me to

electro-sensitivity.org which had a link here .

On top of all this my town just announced they're building a cellphone

tower down the block from me.

Now with my situation I'm kind of lost...

I'm disabled with other health problems and on a limited budget. I

have limited funds but definitely need to figure out what to do as the

limited cash I get comes from using my computer.

I've read about monitor filtering screens (I thought I was getting a

deal with my computer by getting a 19 " widescreen monitor free but

looking at filters they'll cost as much as the monitor should have),

diodes, necklaces, filters and power strips and have no clue where to

begin. I know I most likely have to do it all but can only do a piece

or two at a time. Can anyone help me figure where to begin? It's much

much appreciated.

[Guest guest]

> Can anyone help me figure where to begin?

Well, for computer tolerance on a limited budget, you might as

well start with the least credible (but free) option, a

piece of software called " Quantum Byte " , which has a 2-week

free trial for people using Microsoft Windows:

http://quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_byte.html

Other free/cheap things to try -- move all electronics as far

away from you as possible (purchase extension cables if

necessary), try lowering the resolution of your

video card output to the minimum you can get away with

(800 x 600?), and turn down the backlight (LCD) or

brightness (CRT) to as low as you can get away with.

Also, reduce the amount of metal on your body (change

in your pockets, keys, eyeglasses, dental work, etc.)

I find the Quantum Products line good for reducing skin

redness, and also applying some good skin lotion helps

too (I use Shikai Borage Dry Skin Therapy). You should

also look at antioxidants, since that redness is possibly

due to free radical damage. (if you're on a budget,

try eating some carrots)

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I began experiencing a sunburn of type

> on my face from my lcd tft monitor (which I was told couldn't happen

> by people who saw me experience it firsthand).

Oh, and don't feel too alone on getting red/burning skin

from using your computer monitor -- there are over 400

subscribers to this group, and I suspect that most of

them have experienced this symptom! Some people have

found ways around it and others have eliminated it

entirely. The most common way to eliminate it entirely

is to have a successful " heavy metal detox " , but this can

be a tricky / dangerous / expensive / lengthy process.

Marc

[Guest guest]

>

> > Can anyone help me figure where to begin?

>

> Well, for computer tolerance on a limited budget, you might as

> well start with the least credible (but free) option, a

> piece of software called " Quantum Byte " , which has a 2-week

> free trial for people using Microsoft Windows:

>

> http://quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_byte.html

>

> Other free/cheap things to try -- move all electronics as far

> away from you as possible (purchase extension cables if

> necessary), try lowering the resolution of your

> video card output to the minimum you can get away with

> (800 x 600?), and turn down the backlight (LCD) or

> brightness (CRT) to as low as you can get away with.

> Also, reduce the amount of metal on your body (change

> in your pockets, keys, eyeglasses, dental work, etc.)

>

> I find the Quantum Products line good for reducing skin

> redness, and also applying some good skin lotion helps

> too (I use Shikai Borage Dry Skin Therapy). You should

> also look at antioxidants, since that redness is possibly

> due to free radical damage. (if you're on a budget,

> try eating some carrots)

>

> Marc

>

Thank you for the help Marc I just installed the software trial but

still have a couple questions just to make sure I did it right. It

says it's for Windows 95 to XP, will it run right under Vista? And do

you set it on low or high setting to get the most out of it? I tried

finding info on it but there wasn't any.

I also turned down my resolution and backlighting as you suggested.

Do you have a list of the ingredients on the skin therapy? I went to

Shikai's site and couldn't find them listed. I have allergies to

gluten, soy and corn is why I worry. Due to that I have the feeling a

heavy metal detox may not be a good thing for my system but I'm still

going to look into it.

[Guest guest]

> It says it's for Windows 95 to XP, will it run right under Vista?

I assume that it will run just fine on Vista, but I'm using XP.

> And do you set it on low or high setting to get the most out of it?

Well, if you're sensitive enough to notice a difference, then you'll

eventually find a setting that is not too high and not too low for

your particular circumstances. It really depends based on your

sensitivities and your monitor. I usually have mine set to about 3/4

to the maximum ( " 15 " ), but I also combine the Quantum Byte with some

other stuff. Without the other stuff, I'd probably have it on

maximum.

Although note that on the first day (or even week), having it set

to maximum could potentially provoke a detox reaction (fatigue

and thirst, mostly). Although I see this as a good thing, because

you become less skeptical about it doing anything... :-)

For me, a setting of " too high " causes a rather oppressive

feeling in the air. But it does eliminate my skin redness...

> Do you have a list of the ingredients on the skin therapy?

The ingredients are listed here:

http://www.vitacost.com/Shikai-Borage-Dry-Skin-Therapy-Lotion#IngredientFacts

> Due to that I have the feeling a heavy metal detox may not

> be a good thing for my system but I'm still going to look

> into it.

Yes, sometimes it is better to work on feeling better before

jumping into any sort of heavy metal detox, as a heavy

metal detox could potentially make you feel worse. Although

there are newer products on the market which have fewer

side effects for some (NDF=Natural Detox Factors, NCD=

Natural Cellular Defense, OSR=Oxidative Stress Relief)

Marc

[Guest guest]

>

> > It says it's for Windows 95 to XP, will it run right under Vista?

>

> I assume that it will run just fine on Vista, but I'm using XP.

>

> > And do you set it on low or high setting to get the most out of it?

>

> Well, if you're sensitive enough to notice a difference, then you'll

> eventually find a setting that is not too high and not too low for

> your particular circumstances. It really depends based on your

> sensitivities and your monitor. I usually have mine set to about 3/4

> to the maximum ( " 15 " ), but I also combine the Quantum Byte with some

> other stuff. Without the other stuff, I'd probably have it on

> maximum.

>

> Although note that on the first day (or even week), having it set

> to maximum could potentially provoke a detox reaction (fatigue

> and thirst, mostly). Although I see this as a good thing, because

> you become less skeptical about it doing anything... :-)

>

> For me, a setting of " too high " causes a rather oppressive

> feeling in the air. But it does eliminate my skin redness...

>

> > Do you have a list of the ingredients on the skin therapy?

>

> The ingredients are listed here:

>

>

http://www.vitacost.com/Shikai-Borage-Dry-Skin-Therapy-Lotion#IngredientFacts

>

> > Due to that I have the feeling a heavy metal detox may not

> > be a good thing for my system but I'm still going to look

> > into it.

>

> Yes, sometimes it is better to work on feeling better before

> jumping into any sort of heavy metal detox, as a heavy

> metal detox could potentially make you feel worse. Although

> there are newer products on the market which have fewer

> side effects for some (NDF=Natural Detox Factors, NCD=

> Natural Cellular Defense, OSR=Oxidative Stress Relief)

>

> Marc

>

Thanks again, Marc. The Shikai looks safe for my allergies so far (I

just need to double-check). I'm going to hold off on the detox for

just a bit. I also set the software up to 3/4 and will up it a bit a

day till it's maxed I don't know if it's the software but even my

CPU is running much much cooler than usual (31 C when it usually runs

42 or 43 C) and my monitor itself is now throwing very little heat

compared to before.

[Guest guest]

> I don't know if it's the software but even my

> CPU is running much much cooler than usual (31 C when it usually runs

> 42 or 43 C) and my monitor itself is now throwing very little heat

> compared to before.

I never heard it having that effect before... when I started using

items from Quantum Products, I was convinced that the picture quality

was better on both my computer monitor and my television set (both

CRTs at the time), but I think an equally likely explanation was

that it was improving my eyesight. :-)

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Yes, sometimes it is better to work on feeling better before

> jumping into any sort of heavy metal detox, as a heavy

> metal detox could potentially make you feel worse. Although

> there are newer products on the market which have fewer

> side effects for some (NDF=Natural Detox Factors, NCD=

> Natural Cellular Defense, OSR=Oxidative Stress Relief)

Marc,

I'm interested in Boyd Haley's OSR.

Have you tried it yourself, or do you know somebody who has tried it?

Do you know whether it is similar to the 'drugs' DMSA/DMPS

('chemicals' with two thiol-groups)?

Do you have links to any websites with good information about this

product?

Thanks,

.

[Guest guest]

> I'm interested in Boyd Haley's OSR.

> Have you tried it yourself, or do you know somebody who has tried it?

I have not yet tried OSR, but I have read about others who have tried it,

and it certainly sounds promising in terms of it really holding onto

mercury and getting it out of your body, while at the same time being

much more tolerable than DMSA/DMPS. How it compares to other recent

mercury removers like NDF and NCD, I do not know.

OSR has only been recently been made available to the public, and

even so it only supposed to be available through doctors right now,

and is only sold in 6-month supplies in a powdered form. However,

the company has said that they will be selling OSR online within

a few months, in 1-month supplies of capsules. So many

people (like me) are waiting for that to happen before buying.

> Do you have links to any websites with good information about this

> product?

Here is something to read:

http://klinghardtneurobiology.com/OSRBoydHaley.pdf

And here is one of the few places that appears to be breaking

the rules and currently selling to the public (although that

is twice the recommended price!):

http://stores.homestead.com/BiopureHealingProducts/Detail.bok?no=65

Marc