Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Hello , I do have my doubts about your explanation. The metal springs in matresses do not have any voltage in them. Sure, they are magnetic, like most metal parts on beds. But these magnetic fields are static (DC) and can only be measured with a magnetometer, which I do as a standard. I have found hinges on wooden beds, which were magnetic (4500 nT), as well as metal footings. So you may think that you are safe, and then other electrosmog dangers come lurking for you! All metal on beds should be avoided. That's right. Our bodies are very complicated in working. Most scientists do not understand why we do have a lowfrequent AC tension in our body. These lowfrequent tensions can com from normal electricity (electrical and magnetic AC fields) , but also from high frequency electromagnetic fields. And, from static magnetic and static electrical fields. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus body voltage, coils > I just learned while traveling on vacation how to practically eliminate > body voltage from spring beds. I have a natural foam mattress at home > and turn off the power at night so it is usually not an issue. But > when on the road, some beds have 13 volts running through them. I > understand that even 0.5 can cause problems over time. > The easy fix is to get a grounding cord (electrical wire with an > alligator clip on one end and a plug that goes only into the ground > wall socket, available at LESSEMF.COM), > and then cut a one inch horizontal slice in the mattress near the seam > to reach the wire inside the mattress. Clip on the grounding cord to a > wire spring and check your body voltage again while laying on the bed. > In some beds it went down to almost 0 while in others it went from 7 > volts down to 0.9. > Not bad for a cheap fix when you can't turn the power off. > > This doesn't mean that spring mattresses are OK to sleep on. The coils > will still have a positive and negative field associated with them > since the ends are not loop back together to short out the charges. I > learned from a Slim Spurling workshop how to create coils that have a > positive and positive charge for beneficial results. I don't think > there are any beds that have this coil configuration. Any coil that has > is looped and connected will have a + and - field unless you wrap it > back on itself in a clockwise direction and attach both ends together > to short it out. That way there is a positive field on both planes. > Otherwise, there will be a detrimental field on one end. > After sleeping in a coil-less mattress I can now feel the difference > while sleeping on coils. I get strange sensations in my kidneys and > feet while laying on coils. > > Thanks for the info about Silicea . Didn't know that. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Dear : I've found at times my portable TV picture changes nd the reception becomes very bad when I stand near to it. If I move away it clears. Maureen body voltage, coils > > > > I just learned while traveling on vacation how to practically eliminate > > body voltage from spring beds. I have a natural foam mattress at home > > and turn off the power at night so it is usually not an issue. But > > when on the road, some beds have 13 volts running through them. I > > understand that even 0.5 can cause problems over time. > > The easy fix is to get a grounding cord (electrical wire with an > > alligator clip on one end and a plug that goes only into the ground > > wall socket, available at LESSEMF.COM), > > and then cut a one inch horizontal slice in the mattress near the seam > > to reach the wire inside the mattress. Clip on the grounding cord to a > > wire spring and check your body voltage again while laying on the bed. > > In some beds it went down to almost 0 while in others it went from 7 > > volts down to 0.9. > > Not bad for a cheap fix when you can't turn the power off. > > > > This doesn't mean that spring mattresses are OK to sleep on. The coils > > will still have a positive and negative field associated with them > > since the ends are not loop back together to short out the charges. I > > learned from a Slim Spurling workshop how to create coils that have a > > positive and positive charge for beneficial results. I don't think > > there are any beds that have this coil configuration. Any coil that has > > is looped and connected will have a + and - field unless you wrap it > > back on itself in a clockwise direction and attach both ends together > > to short it out. That way there is a positive field on both planes. > > Otherwise, there will be a detrimental field on one end. > > After sleeping in a coil-less mattress I can now feel the difference > > while sleeping on coils. I get strange sensations in my kidneys and > > feet while laying on coils. > > > > Thanks for the info about Silicea . Didn't know that. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Hello Maureen, with our house searches we use the Standard of building biological measuring techniques, as SBM2003. In it , it prescribes the body voltage. The person has to lie on a bed, the meter has to be grounded and the person holds a hand-held electrode. Ideally it says 30 mV (milliVolt) With most persons I measure 300-800 mV. Metal parts on the bed may result in ca. 2000 - 4000 mV. People with an electrical blanket 4000 mV and higher. And a waterbed may give 55000 mV. So, that may be a reason for your portable Tv set. On the other hand, if your body shields antenne, the TV beams may be obstructed. So, you must do your test in going near your TV from different angles, and see if it makes a difference. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus body voltage, coils > > > > > > > I just learned while traveling on vacation how to practically eliminate > > > body voltage from spring beds. I have a natural foam mattress at home > > > and turn off the power at night so it is usually not an issue. But > > > when on the road, some beds have 13 volts running through them. I > > > understand that even 0.5 can cause problems over time. > > > The easy fix is to get a grounding cord (electrical wire with an > > > alligator clip on one end and a plug that goes only into the ground > > > wall socket, available at LESSEMF.COM), > > > and then cut a one inch horizontal slice in the mattress near the seam > > > to reach the wire inside the mattress. Clip on the grounding cord to a > > > wire spring and check your body voltage again while laying on the bed. > > > In some beds it went down to almost 0 while in others it went from 7 > > > volts down to 0.9. > > > Not bad for a cheap fix when you can't turn the power off. > > > > > > This doesn't mean that spring mattresses are OK to sleep on. The coils > > > will still have a positive and negative field associated with them > > > since the ends are not loop back together to short out the charges. I > > > learned from a Slim Spurling workshop how to create coils that have a > > > positive and positive charge for beneficial results. I don't think > > > there are any beds that have this coil configuration. Any coil that has > > > is looped and connected will have a + and - field unless you wrap it > > > back on itself in a clockwise direction and attach both ends together > > > to short it out. That way there is a positive field on both planes. > > > Otherwise, there will be a detrimental field on one end. > > > After sleeping in a coil-less mattress I can now feel the difference > > > while sleeping on coils. I get strange sensations in my kidneys and > > > feet while laying on coils. > > > > > > Thanks for the info about Silicea . Didn't know that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 I appreciate your expertise in this area. I am a novice and experimenting. I think the reason that there is voltage in the springs is because of the electricity from walls and floor running into the bed. The body voltage meter reports the difference that grounding the springs can make in body voltage. The coil polarity is a separate issue to me. Whether there is an outside charge applied to the coils or not, the way that the coil is wrapped is a separate subject, different from electricity being attracting into the mattress. I don't think that coil field polarity can be measured with typical equipment. I think it would take extremely sensitive equipment to measure a field of energy off of a circular coil. If you have such equipment, I would like to work with you to take some measurements. Is a magnetometer that sensitive? On Aug 19, 2005, at 9:53 AM, charles wrote: > Hello , > > I do have my doubts about your explanation. > > The metal springs in matresses do not have any voltage in them. > Sure, they are magnetic, like most metal parts on beds. > But these magnetic fields are static (DC) and can only be measured > with a > magnetometer, which I do as a standard. > > I have found hinges on wooden beds, which were magnetic (4500 nT), as > well > as metal footings. > > So you may think that you are safe, and then other electrosmog dangers > come > lurking for you! > > All metal on beds should be avoided. > That's right. > > > Our bodies are very complicated in working. > Most scientists do not understand why we do have a lowfrequent AC > tension in > our body. > These lowfrequent tensions can com from normal electricity (electrical > and > magnetic AC fields) , but also from high frequency electromagnetic > fields. > And, from static magnetic and static electrical fields. > > Greetings, > Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > > > > > body voltage, coils > > >> I just learned while traveling on vacation how to practically >> eliminate >> body voltage from spring beds. I have a natural foam mattress at home >> and turn off the power at night so it is usually not an issue. But >> when on the road, some beds have 13 volts running through them. I >> understand that even 0.5 can cause problems over time. >> The easy fix is to get a grounding cord (electrical wire with an >> alligator clip on one end and a plug that goes only into the ground >> wall socket, available at LESSEMF.COM), >> and then cut a one inch horizontal slice in the mattress near the seam >> to reach the wire inside the mattress. Clip on the grounding cord to a >> wire spring and check your body voltage again while laying on the bed. >> In some beds it went down to almost 0 while in others it went from 7 >> volts down to 0.9. >> Not bad for a cheap fix when you can't turn the power off. >> >> This doesn't mean that spring mattresses are OK to sleep on. The coils >> will still have a positive and negative field associated with them >> since the ends are not loop back together to short out the charges. I >> learned from a Slim Spurling workshop how to create coils that have a >> positive and positive charge for beneficial results. I don't think >> there are any beds that have this coil configuration. Any coil that >> has >> is looped and connected will have a + and - field unless you wrap it >> back on itself in a clockwise direction and attach both ends together >> to short it out. That way there is a positive field on both planes. >> Otherwise, there will be a detrimental field on one end. >> After sleeping in a coil-less mattress I can now feel the difference >> while sleeping on coils. I get strange sensations in my kidneys and >> feet while laying on coils. >> >> Thanks for the info about Silicea . Didn't know that. >> >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Hello , a magnetometer only measures static magnetic fields, NOT alternating magnetic fields. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Re: body voltage, coils > I appreciate your expertise in this area. > I am a novice and experimenting. > > I think the reason that there is voltage in the springs is because of > the electricity from walls and floor running into the bed. > > The body voltage meter reports the difference that grounding the > springs can make in body voltage. > > The coil polarity is a separate issue to me. Whether there is an > outside charge applied to the coils or not, the way that the coil is > wrapped is a separate subject, different from electricity being > attracting into the mattress. > > I don't think that coil field polarity can be measured with typical > equipment. I think it would take extremely sensitive equipment to > measure a field of energy off of a circular coil. > If you have such equipment, I would like to work with you to take some > measurements. Is a magnetometer that sensitive? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Thanks for your reply . I wonder why it is only at certain times, if it wasn't for that I'd think it was to do with the antenae. There have been some odd things happen though, like one day I felt disoriented when I was in a certain spot, when I moved a couple of feet away it went, when I moved back the feeling returned. I had no high frequency sound at the time this happened, and believe it was low emf in band which when I stepped out of it stopped. It made me feel disorientated and sick. Maureen body voltage, coils > > > > > > > > > > I just learned while traveling on vacation how to practically > eliminate > > > > body voltage from spring beds. I have a natural foam mattress at home > > > > and turn off the power at night so it is usually not an issue. But > > > > when on the road, some beds have 13 volts running through them. I > > > > understand that even 0.5 can cause problems over time. > > > > The easy fix is to get a grounding cord (electrical wire with an > > > > alligator clip on one end and a plug that goes only into the ground > > > > wall socket, available at LESSEMF.COM), > > > > and then cut a one inch horizontal slice in the mattress near the seam > > > > to reach the wire inside the mattress. Clip on the grounding cord to a > > > > wire spring and check your body voltage again while laying on the bed. > > > > In some beds it went down to almost 0 while in others it went from 7 > > > > volts down to 0.9. > > > > Not bad for a cheap fix when you can't turn the power off. > > > > > > > > This doesn't mean that spring mattresses are OK to sleep on. The coils > > > > will still have a positive and negative field associated with them > > > > since the ends are not loop back together to short out the charges. I > > > > learned from a Slim Spurling workshop how to create coils that have a > > > > positive and positive charge for beneficial results. I don't think > > > > there are any beds that have this coil configuration. Any coil that > has > > > > is looped and connected will have a + and - field unless you wrap it > > > > back on itself in a clockwise direction and attach both ends together > > > > to short it out. That way there is a positive field on both planes. > > > > Otherwise, there will be a detrimental field on one end. > > > > After sleeping in a coil-less mattress I can now feel the difference > > > > while sleeping on coils. I get strange sensations in my kidneys and > > > > feet while laying on coils. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about Silicea . Didn't know that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Dear : Some time ago I was suffering from static electricity which gave me an electric shock when I touched my car when putting the key in the lock to open it. I made myself a groundstrap from a copper metal scrub pad, to which I joined a piece of electric flex which I opened up at the top and bottom to expose the copper wires. I joined one end to the scrub pad and a metal bulldog clip to the other end and made it long enough to reach from my wrist to the ground. I cut the middle out of the scrub pad and placed it around my wrist. It stopped the static. did it not only because of the small shocks but to get rid of the electricity from my body causing it. Maureen body voltage, coils > > > > > >> I just learned while traveling on vacation how to practically > >> eliminate > >> body voltage from spring beds. I have a natural foam mattress at home > >> and turn off the power at night so it is usually not an issue. But > >> when on the road, some beds have 13 volts running through them. I > >> understand that even 0.5 can cause problems over time. > >> The easy fix is to get a grounding cord (electrical wire with an > >> alligator clip on one end and a plug that goes only into the ground > >> wall socket, available at LESSEMF.COM), > >> and then cut a one inch horizontal slice in the mattress near the seam > >> to reach the wire inside the mattress. Clip on the grounding cord to a > >> wire spring and check your body voltage again while laying on the bed. > >> In some beds it went down to almost 0 while in others it went from 7 > >> volts down to 0.9. > >> Not bad for a cheap fix when you can't turn the power off. > >> > >> This doesn't mean that spring mattresses are OK to sleep on. The coils > >> will still have a positive and negative field associated with them > >> since the ends are not loop back together to short out the charges. I > >> learned from a Slim Spurling workshop how to create coils that have a > >> positive and positive charge for beneficial results. I don't think > >> there are any beds that have this coil configuration. Any coil that > >> has > >> is looped and connected will have a + and - field unless you wrap it > >> back on itself in a clockwise direction and attach both ends together > >> to short it out. That way there is a positive field on both planes. > >> Otherwise, there will be a detrimental field on one end. > >> After sleeping in a coil-less mattress I can now feel the difference > >> while sleeping on coils. I get strange sensations in my kidneys and > >> feet while laying on coils. > >> > >> Thanks for the info about Silicea . Didn't know that. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Hello Maureen, what you describe is quite normal. HF radiation can reflect from all sorts of surfaces. The easiest from large metal surfaces. Those beams and reflected beams can come together; we have then stark concentrations, which we call hotspots. I do have a special meter for that. Those *hotspots* do mostly have the dimension of a football, and me be in many different spots. The very first time I had this meter and was palying around with it, I so found a hotspot on the pillow of my wife, and on the spot where she always had a cold hip. With proper shielding, those hotspots can be avoided. I once measured a house. Inside the house, as well as the neighbours I did not found a cordless DECT phone. However, in the sleeping room, I detected several hotspots on the bed. I continued my search, and found a stronger hotspot in front of a radiator of the central heating. This stronger point was in the clamp, which was used to hold and fix the radiator. This clamp worked as a secundary antenna and transmitted the DECT signals which came from a house on the other side of an adjacent alley. So, it is understandable, that walking on a street, one comes into a hotspot and feels it, and a single step outside, and the complaints are gone. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus body voltage, coils > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just learned while traveling on vacation how to practically > > eliminate > > > > > body voltage from spring beds. I have a natural foam mattress at > home > > > > > and turn off the power at night so it is usually not an issue. But > > > > > when on the road, some beds have 13 volts running through them. I > > > > > understand that even 0.5 can cause problems over time. > > > > > The easy fix is to get a grounding cord (electrical wire with an > > > > > alligator clip on one end and a plug that goes only into the ground > > > > > wall socket, available at LESSEMF.COM), > > > > > and then cut a one inch horizontal slice in the mattress near the > seam > > > > > to reach the wire inside the mattress. Clip on the grounding cord to > a > > > > > wire spring and check your body voltage again while laying on the > bed. > > > > > In some beds it went down to almost 0 while in others it went from 7 > > > > > volts down to 0.9. > > > > > Not bad for a cheap fix when you can't turn the power off. > > > > > > > > > > This doesn't mean that spring mattresses are OK to sleep on. The > coils > > > > > will still have a positive and negative field associated with them > > > > > since the ends are not loop back together to short out the charges. > I > > > > > learned from a Slim Spurling workshop how to create coils that have > a > > > > > positive and positive charge for beneficial results. I don't think > > > > > there are any beds that have this coil configuration. Any coil that > > has > > > > > is looped and connected will have a + and - field unless you wrap it > > > > > back on itself in a clockwise direction and attach both ends > together > > > > > to short it out. That way there is a positive field on both planes. > > > > > Otherwise, there will be a detrimental field on one end. > > > > > After sleeping in a coil-less mattress I can now feel the difference > > > > > while sleeping on coils. I get strange sensations in my kidneys and > > > > > feet while laying on coils. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info about Silicea . Didn't know that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Hello Maureen, that was not static electricity, but the unloading of your AC body tension. There are some small things on the market, which you may place on your keychain, which unloads that in a *safer* way. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Re: body voltage, coils > Dear : > > Some time ago I was suffering from static electricity which gave me an > electric shock when I touched my car when putting the key in the lock > to open it. I made myself a groundstrap from a copper metal scrub > pad, to which I joined a piece of electric flex which I opened up at the > top and bottom to expose the copper wires. I joined one end to the > scrub pad and a metal bulldog clip to the other end and made it long > enough to reach from my wrist to the ground. I cut the middle out of > the scrub pad and placed it around my wrist. It stopped the static. > did it not only because of the small shocks but to get rid of the > electricity > from my body causing it. > > Maureen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 > that was not static electricity, but the unloading of your AC body > tension. There are some small things on the market, which you may > place on your keychain, which unloads that in a *safer* way. What specific items are you referring to? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Hello Marc, it is called Anti Shoc, made by jasa ag in switzerland. look at: http://www.jasa-ag.ch/shop/index.jsp than: Katalog > Zubehör > Diverses I have uploaded an image to the Photos bank of the Group. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Re: body voltage, coils > > that was not static electricity, but the unloading of your AC body > > tension. There are some small things on the market, which you may > > place on your keychain, which unloads that in a *safer* way. > > What specific items are you referring to? > > Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2005 Report Share Posted August 20, 2005 Thanks for letting me know this, I'll look out for then. Maureeen Re: body voltage, coils > > > > Dear : > > > > Some time ago I was suffering from static electricity which gave me an > > electric shock when I touched my car when putting the key in the lock > > to open it. I made myself a groundstrap from a copper metal scrub > > pad, to which I joined a piece of electric flex which I opened up at the > > top and bottom to expose the copper wires. I joined one end to the > > scrub pad and a metal bulldog clip to the other end and made it long > > enough to reach from my wrist to the ground. I cut the middle out of > > the scrub pad and placed it around my wrist. It stopped the static. > > did it not only because of the small shocks but to get rid of the > > electricity > > from my body causing it. > > > > Maureen > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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