Re: Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for the info Marc. How does CELLFOOD taste when dissolved in

> water? Is it sour tasting? Nano-2+ seems to be a copycat product. I will

> order CELLFOOD and try it.

Yes, it's kind of like adding lemon to your water -- the pH of CELLFOOD

is very low...

It's the deuterium sulfate that makes these sorts of product " unique " .

Most of the products I listed have deuterium sulfate in them, although

often it is not mentioned on the label (!?).

As for whether CELLFOOD helps or worsens ES, I find it depends on the

dosage and the circumstances. But sometimes it does help.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some

> information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike.

I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you

that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically,

Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a " Reynolds

Soil Conditioner " , invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the

late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he

began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ( " Open All " ) and a

nutritional supplement ( " Cellfood " ). Although claimed to cure many

illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his

early 70's. The company he started ( " Deutrel Labs " ) got taken over by

some other folks and is know known as " Deutrel Industries " . They

still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional

supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US

distribution in the early 2000s.

The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner

and also as a competing nutritional supplement ( " Cell Power " ).

CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health

(fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical sensitivities,

reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you

may find about it online.

Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of

Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the

manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's:

http://evstorey.com/

And here is the manufacturer's website ( " Nu Science = Deutrel Industries " ):

http://nuscience.com/

http://deutrel.com/

Marc

[Guest guest]

> One thing I would really like to know more about how CELLFOOD can

> fight viruses. What are your experiences?

It may be as simple as the pH change that occurs in your body from

taking Cellfood. I assume that viruses can only survive in a certain pH

range? Otherwise, the oxidizing capacity of Cellfood might be a

factor.... I don't know really, just that it does work for me at times.

I also do well taking citrus seed extract (Agrisept-L is what I take, as

I got sensitized to GSE), which might also be a pH thing. I do NOT do

well with colloidal silver -- it makes my ES worse.

Also for preventing illnesses, I've experimented some with Hulda

zappers (which might work, especially at a 2.5khz frequency), " Living

Streams Probiotic " , and also LDM-100:

http://www.collagendiet.com/grapefruit_seed_extract.htm

http://www.livingstreamsmission.com/

http://choosecra.com/store/immune/ldm-100.html

Although for me, I think Agrisept-L works the best overall for this

sort of thing.

Marc

[Guest guest]

The name " deuterium sulfate " is a good example of why a lot of people

dismiss these things as cleverly marketed snake oil. Deuterium is a

scientific term which was hot news in the 1940's and 1950's and therefore

seems to have been " borrowed " to make the marketing claims for Cellfood look

and sound more impressive. It is actually a form of hydrogen, very

expensive and specially made for atomic bombs and nuclear reactors.

" Deuterium sulphate " would actually be identical in properties to hydrogen

sulphate, which is common or garden sulphuric acid!

Now this does NOT mean that CELLFOOD does not work - only that some of the

marketing blurb used to advertise it in the past was at best misleading (and

at worst, off its trolley!). Sometimes an over-enthusiastic marketing guy

will start producing statements that would give kittens to the guys who

actually develop or make the product :-) Often a little knowledge can be a

very dangerous thing ....

I did not spot any reference to deuterium sulphate in a quick scan of the

Nuscience website, so it looks as if they are, very wisely, distancing

themselves from this terminology and concentrating on more realistic

descriptions of how it actually might work in reality :-)

That being said, one blogger did try it with a piece of litmus paper and got

a very low pH reading, which would correspond to concentrated sulphuric

acid!

(http://episteme.ca/2007/02/27/i-paid-50-to-drink-concentrated-sulfuric-acid

/) I'm a bit dubious of this claim, as it means Cellfood would give you

burns if you failed to dilute it properly. But maybe sulphuric acid is a

major component. And maybe this might indeed help if one of your underlying

problems is inorganic sulphate deficiency (liver metabolic pathways again!)

which, like magnesium sulphate, this should help with. (It might be worth

trying Epsom salts or dilute sulphuric acid instead, as they should be a lot

cheaper than Cellfood :-) I suspect that in practice, Cellfood has a number

of other genuinely useful nutrients added.

Ian

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marc

Sent: 31 October 2009 22:53

Subject: Re: Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience

> Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some

> information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike.

I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you

that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically,

Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a " Reynolds

Soil Conditioner " , invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the

late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he

began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ( " Open All " ) and a

nutritional supplement ( " Cellfood " ). Although claimed to cure many

illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his

early 70's. The company he started ( " Deutrel Labs " ) got taken over by

some other folks and is know known as " Deutrel Industries " . They

still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional

supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US

distribution in the early 2000s.

The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner

and also as a competing nutritional supplement ( " Cell Power " ).

CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health

(fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical

sensitivities,

reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you

may find about it online.

Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of

Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the

manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's:

http://evstorey. <http://evstorey.com/> com/

And here is the manufacturer's website ( " Nu Science = Deutrel Industries " ):

http://nuscience. <http://nuscience.com/> com/

http://deutrel. <http://deutrel.com/> com/

Marc

[Guest guest]

> The name " deuterium sulfate " is a good example of why a lot of

> people dismiss these things as cleverly marketed snake oil.

> Deuterium is a scientific term which was hot news in the 1940's and

> 1950's and therefore seems to have been " borrowed " to make the

> marketing claims for Cellfood look and sound more impressive. It is

> actually a form of hydrogen, very expensive and specially made for

> atomic bombs and nuclear reactors. " Deuterium sulphate " would

> actually be identical in properties to hydrogen sulphate, which is

> common or garden sulphuric acid!

I've taken Cellfood for the past 10 years, and since it seems to be such

an odd supplement, have researched it a lot. I do think it is supposed

to contain deuterium sulfate (D2SO4), not sulfuric acid (H2SO4), as I

recall the old 1970's literature on it talking about " heavy water " , and

being the same stuff used in hydrogen bombs (and Everett Storey

apparently did have something to do with the hydrogen bomb, that much appears

to be true). They were quite emphatic that this was NOT the same thing

as sulfuric acid. But you're right -- these days they don't even mention

the word " deuterium " or " sulfate " on the bottle or in their marketing,

as I imagine they don't want to scare people off.

You can put it directly on your skin, undiluted, without problems.

One of the competitor products says their product contains " 6.3%

Deutrosulfuric acid " . And years ago, the Nu Science website referred to

CELLFOOD as " Deutrosulfazyme " .

I have wondered about the " sulfate " part of it, and whether magnesium

sulfate would provide similar benefits, but I get no reaction from epsom

salt baths, while I have quite a good reaction to Cellfood. So I don't

think it's the sulfate...

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hello Ian,

Many thanks for the input. Do you have any references with regards to inorganic

sulphate deficiency relating to liver problems?

Thanks,

Ole

________________________________

From: Ian Kemp <ianandsue.kemp@...>

Sent: Mon, 2 November, 2009 0:28:29

Subject: RE: Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience

The name " deuterium sulfate " is a good example of why a lot of people

dismiss these things as cleverly marketed snake oil. Deuterium is a

scientific term which was hot news in the 1940's and 1950's and therefore

seems to have been " borrowed " to make the marketing claims for Cellfood look

and sound more impressive. It is actually a form of hydrogen, very

expensive and specially made for atomic bombs and nuclear reactors.

" Deuterium sulphate " would actually be identical in properties to hydrogen

sulphate, which is common or garden sulphuric acid!

Now this does NOT mean that CELLFOOD does not work - only that some of the

marketing blurb used to advertise it in the past was at best misleading (and

at worst, off its trolley!). Sometimes an over-enthusiastic marketing guy

will start producing statements that would give kittens to the guys who

actually develop or make the product :-) Often a little knowledge can be a

very dangerous thing ....

I did not spot any reference to deuterium sulphate in a quick scan of the

Nuscience website, so it looks as if they are, very wisely, distancing

themselves from this terminology and concentrating on more realistic

descriptions of how it actually might work in reality :-)

That being said, one blogger did try it with a piece of litmus paper and got

a very low pH reading, which would correspond to concentrated sulphuric

acid!

(http://episteme. ca/2007/02/ 27/i-paid- 50-to-drink- concentrated- sulfuric-

acid

/) I'm a bit dubious of this claim, as it means Cellfood would give you

burns if you failed to dilute it properly. But maybe sulphuric acid is a

major component. And maybe this might indeed help if one of your underlying

problems is inorganic sulphate deficiency (liver metabolic pathways again!)

which, like magnesium sulphate, this should help with. (It might be worth

trying Epsom salts or dilute sulphuric acid instead, as they should be a lot

cheaper than Cellfood :-) I suspect that in practice, Cellfood has a number

of other genuinely useful nutrients added.

Ian

_____

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Marc

Sent: 31 October 2009 22:53

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience

> Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some

> information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike.

I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you

that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically,

Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a " Reynolds

Soil Conditioner " , invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the

late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he

began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ( " Open All " ) and a

nutritional supplement ( " Cellfood " ) . Although claimed to cure many

illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his

early 70's. The company he started ( " Deutrel Labs " ) got taken over by

some other folks and is know known as " Deutrel Industries " . They

still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional

supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US

distribution in the early 2000s.

The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner

and also as a competing nutritional supplement ( " Cell Power " ).

CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health

(fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical

sensitivities,

reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you

may find about it online.

Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of

Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the

manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's:

http://evstorey. <http://evstorey. com/> com/

And here is the manufacturer' s website ( " Nu Science = Deutrel Industries " ) :

http://nuscience. <http://nuscience. com/> com/

http://deutrel. <http://deutrel. com/> com/

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi, Ole,

 

Yes, I have used oregano oil.  You do not want to use full strength oregano oil

internally (I don't even use it externally full strength).  It is too irritating

full strength.  I like it.  I does give me some real detox fog, so I know it is

working.  How do you wish to use it, Ole?  Are you killing off particular gut

bugs?  I use it on my gums--I brush my teeth with some on a toothbrush, and

dilute it even more for use in my nose.  (I lay down for about 5 or 10 mins and

just sniff a dropful of diluted oegano oil into each of my nostrils for

my sinuses.)  I dilute it with olive oil.  I like using oregano oil capsules and

breaking them open, so that the oregano oil is fresher and more potent. 

 

Another thing I use often when killing candida is monolauren--it is a coconut

based product which comes in little pellets that you chew and swallow.  I take a

tablespoon between meals.  I like using coconut oil too, as well as grapefruit

seed extract.  And whey powder--I add it to my breakfast yogurt.  I can get real

detox from doing that, too.  I rotate all these things so that the bugs I am

killing don't get resistant.  Also, pantethine and calcium AEP are both really

good when used together.  Cal AEP kills candida *biofilm* and when taken with

pantethine, the combo helps the lymphatic system to work more efficiently so

you eliminate the die-off quicker.   I also like molybdenum (1 drop in my

water/day or every other), as it helps my liver detox better. 

 

Hope this helps,

Diane

From: alstrup <alstrup@...>

Subject: Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 8:22 PM

 

PS. I was doing some research about Chinese Star Anise and Oil of Oregano. Had

forgot all about Star Anise and the connection with Tamiflu. Anyone here with

experience of these?

http://fightinfluen zanaturally. blogspot. com/2009/ 10/star-anise. html

http://fightinfluen zanaturally. blogspot. com/2009/ 10/oil-of- oregano.html

Thanks,

Ole

> >

> > > Will see what I can find about Everett Storey, I already found some

> > > information about deuterium sulfate and it looks very scamlike.

> >

> > I really like these deuterium sulfate products, although I will warn you

> > that a lot of the backstory about them is fabricated. Basically,

> > Deuterium Sulfate started use in the early 1950's as a " Reynolds

> > Soil Conditioner " , invented by Lee Reynolds. It was publicized in the

> > late 1950's by Everett Story (a magazine publisher) and eventually he

> > began a company selling it as both a soil conditioner ( " Open All " ) and a

> > nutritional supplement ( " Cellfood " ) . Although claimed to cure many

> > illnesses, Everett Storey himself died of throat cancer in his

> > early 70's. The company he started ( " Deutrel Labs " ) got taken over by

> > some other folks and is know known as " Deutrel Industries " . They

> > still manufacture CELLFOOD today, and began marketing it as nutritional

> > supplement in the late 1990s, and Lumina Health took over US

> > distribution in the early 2000s.

> >

> > The original Reynolds product is still sold as a soil conditioner

> > and also as a competing nutritional supplement ( " Cell Power " ).

> >

> > CELLFOOD really has had a good impact on various aspects of my health

> > (fighting viruses, increasing energy/stamina, reducing chemical

sensitivities,

> > reducing allergies), in spite of the questionable information you

> > may find about it online.

> >

> > Here is a website created by someone who used to take care of

> > Everett Storey in his final years, and also used to help in the

> > manufacture of CELLFOOD in the 1980's:

> >

> > http://evstorey. com/

> >

> > And here is the manufacturer' s website ( " Nu Science = Deutrel Industries " )

:

> >

> > http://nuscience. com/

> > http://deutrel. com/

> >

> > Marc

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It's an interesting question about the deuterium. Separating deuterium from

normal hydrogen is an incredibly difficult and expensive process, so if

NuScience were doing this, either the cost would be gold plated (even more

so than it is - probably many thousands of dollars for a jar) or every

nuclear power generator (or potential bomb maker) in the world would be

beating a rapid path to Nuscience's door. However hydrogen always contains

a very small proportion of deuterium, so one can claim that hydrogen

sulphate does contain some deuterium sulphate :-)

As for Everett Story's links to the Manhattan Project, one of the links you

provided (which seemed to have been written by his family?) seemed to deny

this. In fact he comes across as a bit of a Walter Mitty character (or

maybe this is his competitors who jumped on the bandwagon and embellished

his stories further :-)

So I'd suspect that Cellfood is one of those products that does seem to work

for a fair number of people, it's just that nobody is quite sure how it

works - though maybe NuScience are now getting their hands on more realistic

ideas of this, hence the downplaying of the deuterium label!

Ian

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marc

Sent: 02 November 2009 00:24

Subject: RE: Re: CELLFOOD from NuScience

> The name " deuterium sulfate " is a good example of why a lot of

> people dismiss these things as cleverly marketed snake oil.

> Deuterium is a scientific term which was hot news in the 1940's and

> 1950's and therefore seems to have been " borrowed " to make the

> marketing claims for Cellfood look and sound more impressive. It is

> actually a form of hydrogen, very expensive and specially made for

> atomic bombs and nuclear reactors. " Deuterium sulphate " would

> actually be identical in properties to hydrogen sulphate, which is

> common or garden sulphuric acid!

I've taken Cellfood for the past 10 years, and since it seems to be such

an odd supplement, have researched it a lot. I do think it is supposed

to contain deuterium sulfate (D2SO4), not sulfuric acid (H2SO4), as I

recall the old 1970's literature on it talking about " heavy water " , and

being the same stuff used in hydrogen bombs (and Everett Storey

apparently did have something to do with the hydrogen bomb, that much

appears

to be true). They were quite emphatic that this was NOT the same thing

as sulfuric acid. But you're right -- these days they don't even mention

the word " deuterium " or " sulfate " on the bottle or in their marketing,

as I imagine they don't want to scare people off.

You can put it directly on your skin, undiluted, without problems.

One of the competitor products says their product contains " 6.3%

Deutrosulfuric acid " . And years ago, the Nu Science website referred to

CELLFOOD as " Deutrosulfazyme " .

I have wondered about the " sulfate " part of it, and whether magnesium

sulfate would provide similar benefits, but I get no reaction from epsom

salt baths, while I have quite a good reaction to Cellfood. So I don't

think it's the sulfate...

Marc