Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 > What was the results from the last posts on the crowns? The general recommendation is to put no metal in your mouth. So the crown should be metal-free (interior & exterior), and the materials used to bond to the tooth should be metal-free. Sometimes a porcelain crown is only porcelain on the outside, with metal on the inside (for example, nickel). Also, I had a porcelain crown that the dentist used gold to bond it to the tooth. I think a " normal " / typical dentist may not even be aware of the metal content of the materials they use. You may have better luck with a " holistic " or " mercury-free " dentist. Loni, if you are in Arizona, I see that there are a few such dentists in Tuscon and sdale: http://mercuryfreedentists.com/mercury-free-dentists/arizona.html Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Loni, The doctor I have been seeing doesn't recommend root canals,I know I have had mine for 30 years and didn't have any problems with it, until I became sensitive. The doctor who took it out checked to see what materials I am sensitive to. It would be good to go to a biological dentist. Many people are going to Mexico, and actually my dentist didn't screw up like I thought, I had it wrong, but it is an emotionally upsetting thing to go through. Good luck, Maureen ____________________________________________________________ DEAL OF THE YEAR: 2010 Honda Civic for $1,734.09 SPECIAL REPORT: High ticket items are being auctioned for an incredible 90% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4cf177d7a72aa473c3bst01duc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 When the dentists says he's never had a problem with porcelain crowns he's referring to how they last. If somoeone got symptoms from a blocked meridian, neither the patient nor the dentist were ever aware of it. The dentist who put in my titanium pins, and ceramic crowns with metallic colorant, said that not one person besides me had ever had any problem. I doubt that. I suppose that no one else ever put 2 + 2 together. The adhesives can be problematic in the same way. Does anyone near you do eleectrodermal testing, so you can test for the materials beforehand? My suggestion would be to have Doug Cook recommend a dentist who works the way he does, who lives near you. Shivani Arjuna www.LifeEnergies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Loni, I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free though. If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that. In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for 15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or drinking anything. Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth. Steve > > > What was the results from the last posts on the crowns? I need several & dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them. Been doing for 30 years plus. > > The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that? > > Not sure about the adhesive. > > I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal. > > ) Loni > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Thanks Marc, Steve, &  Maureen! Trying to use my dentist on my insurance plan because the expense is just too much to go to a holistic dentist. I need several crowns & a bridge. It's really overwhelming.  I did have the reactivity test so I'll look at it. I think this dentist is willing to work with me as much as he can but the office rep said they are not set up to work with sensitive people like me.  I need to get 2 of them done asap so to avoid a root canal. I will doing research starting tomorrow.  Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good. Hmmmm..  Loni From: torch369 <torch369@...> Subject: Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick! Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 12:28 PM  Loni, I have had 2 recent crowns done. 2 Lava Crowns, which are zirconium, but the dentist botched them. I had very little tooth left and even though he is a holistic dentist he preferred to use Gold fused to porcelain because this was a large molar and the Gold base is stronger. The Gold part was 88% Gold with no nickel or palladium which is rare. If I had a choice I would go with metal free though. If this is a Molar there is an all zirconium crown called Bruxzir which is very strong but the dentist has to know how to use it. I also had a Clifford Reactivity test done to see which materials I was allergic to, including cements and bonding material. A holistic dentist would be able to hook you up with that. In the meantime if you are in pain I recommend oil pulling. Google it-basically you take one tablespoon of organic sesame oil and swich it around your mouth for 15 minutes then spit it out. It was amazing how much it helped my pain and my teeth felt more solid afterwards. This is done in the AM before eating or drinking anything. Also, a good mouthwash for pain is VitaMyr. I get it at whole foods, it's pricy but very good-actually the only one I could tolerate while the temp crown (from the incompetent dentist) was on my tooth. Steve > >  > What was the results from the last posts on the crowns? I need several & dentist recommends the porcelain. Said he has never had any problems with them. Been doing for 30 years plus. >  > The build up material is a product called Luxacore. Anybody do okay with that? >  > Not sure about the adhesive. >  > I need to get going on them asap before I need another root canal. >  > ) Loni > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 > Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good. > Hmmmm.. Well, I'm no expert in porcelain -- it could be that " porcelain " is a somewhat generic term, and that some have metal inside, and some do not (?) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 I will check on it! From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick! Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 1:54 PM Â > Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good. > Hmmmm.. Well, I'm no expert in porcelain -- it could be that " porcelain " is a somewhat generic term, and that some have metal inside, and some do not (?) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Porcelain can have some aluminum in it but usually an all porcelain crown has no metal. A PFM crown is porcelain fused to metal, which is what I got (porcelain fused to mainly gold). A Lava Crown is porcelain fused to zirconia > > > Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good. > > Hmmmm.. > > Well, I'm no expert in porcelain -- it could be that " porcelain " is > a somewhat generic term, and that some have metal inside, and some > do not (?) > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Oh ok thanks for explaining that Steve! Good to know! Loni From: torch369 <torch369@...> Subject: Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick! Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 9:04 PM  Porcelain can have some aluminum in it but usually an all porcelain crown has no metal. A PFM crown is porcelain fused to metal, which is what I got (porcelain fused to mainly gold). A Lava Crown is porcelain fused to zirconia > > > Intersting that the porcelain has some metal in it. That's not good. > > Hmmmm.. > > Well, I'm no expert in porcelain -- it could be that " porcelain " is > a somewhat generic term, and that some have metal inside, and some > do not (?) > > Marc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I had the Clifford Reactivity Test done & checked all the materials out & looks ok for me but I am still weary of it. I need many crowns so this is pretty stressful deal. I will try it & see how it goes I guess. Â Loni From: SArjuna@... <SArjuna@...> Subject: Re: Dental Crowns! Help needed quick! Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 11:23 AM Â When the dentists says he's never had a problem with porcelain crowns he's referring to how they last. If somoeone got symptoms from a blocked meridian, neither the patient nor the dentist were ever aware of it. The dentist who put in my titanium pins, and ceramic crowns with metallic colorant, said that not one person besides me had ever had any problem. I doubt that. I suppose that no one else ever put 2 + 2 together. The adhesives can be problematic in the same way. Does anyone near you do eleectrodermal testing, so you can test for the materials beforehand? My suggestion would be to have Doug Cook recommend a dentist who works the way he does, who lives near you. Shivani Arjuna www.LifeEnergies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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