Re: I've been fried by my laptop - help needed!

[Guest guest]

> but I was wondering if there were some brands and " versions " of laptops

> that are known to emit less bothersome EMF than others. For example, I

> was able to read a recent post that claimed that Samsung laptops are

> supposedly the least bothersome as far as EMF, while Dell laptops are the

> most bothersome -- is this a generally agreed-upon observation? Do

> older-model laptops emit more bothersome EMF than the newer models? The

> laptop I've been using is a Dell Latitude D600 - a laptop that came out

> in 2003/2004. Perhaps buying a different, more updated brand/model would

> help?

I haven't seen too many specific suggestions on " good " brands or models

of laptop computers. I'm not even sure you can generalize on the brand,

because a brand may have good models and bad models. Personally, I try

to avoid laptops, as desktops are more easily made tolerable.

But I agree this would be useful information... one of these days I'm going

to have to replace my desktop PC (a very " quiet " Sony RS-610), and it'd be

nice to know which computers are " the good ones " .

Marc

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/01/2010 19:34:26 GMT Standard Time,

svetaswan@... writes:

P.S. - I know an obvious " solution " would be to spend a lot less time on

the computer, or eliminate my computer use altogether, or go back to using a

desktop - but these options are much easier said than done. To say the

least, it's not easy for an addict to significantly cut down or eliminate an

addiction - and buying a desktop is completely impractical, given my living

situation.

puk replies - Try as I have done by using external keyboard and mouse on

laptop and using ai squared zoomtext software so that I can see the text from

2m away, so I can put the laptop this far away from me, it helps apart

from keyboard and mouse emissions.

[Guest guest]

Dear Svetaswan

it's only a cost/effects balance ...

in my experience (my family) we escaped our OWN flat more 2,5 years ago and .

after tests, we live in a RENTED flat where my wife felt and feels much better !

Costs ?! A lot ! And I beleive that anyone will return us back so lot of

money we ought to spend to survive her !!!

Giorgio

>

> Hi - pardon me if this post isn't particularly well-written or organized -

I've been dealing with marked/severe symptoms of what is probably (well, at

least in part) electrosensitivity to my laptop. For this and other reasons,

it's very hard/taxing for me to write a basic post.

>

> I have good reason to believe that I've been fried by my laptop - and the

damage appears to only be accumulating. I've been suffering from several

bothersome symptoms - and it seems that this laptop has made conditions that I

was already suffering from worse. Among my symptoms are: increased depression,

increased anxiety (my depression and anxiety were already severe/debilitating),

increased " brain fog " , increased intellectual decline, apathy, lowered

motivation, marked difficulty in verbally expressing myself, accelerated aging

(I noticed that my skin seemed to start rapidly aging, all of a sudden - shortly

after I started using this laptop extensively), increased sensitivity to light

(from t.v.s, lamps, etc.), increased sleep difficulties. This may not be the

entire list, but you get the gist. I also have evidence of increased

Candida/yeast problems and (further) hormonal disturbances (which may be

contributing to some of the above-listed symptoms).

>

> Granted, I appear to be a full-blown computer/Internet addict - especially

recently. In recent months, I've been spending upwards of 12 hours per day on

the computer. I've used this laptop for many hours a day since I got it (almost

2 years ago) - and I noticed bothersome symptoms from the start. In the years

prior to getting this laptop, I logged *many* hours on a desktop (my addiction

isn't exactly a new/recent problem) - and, while I sometimes noticed symptoms,

they were *nothing* compared to what I've dealt with from using this laptop!

With the desktop - IF I had sensitivity symptoms, they seemed to only be

confined to when I was actually using the computer....the symptoms didn't seem

to carry over to my off-computer times (then again, I could have been suffering

from " subtler " symptoms that I failed to attribute to the desktop). And my

problems seemed to be mainly confined to the monitor - not the actual computer.

But this laptop has been a real monster: I've appeared to have had

ever-accumulating problems with the computer's general " electro-magnetic field " ,

in addition to problems with the " brightness " of the monitor. I finally

" tinkered " with the monitor to reduce its brightness and color-intensity (and I

slightly decreased the resolution) - and that led to some relief. But I'm still

plagued with considerable " EMF " problems.

>

> I've tried a few products that are advertised to " neutralize " , or help

" transform " the harmful EMF frequencies to more " beneficial " frequencies - but

in general, the results were temporary and/or " iffy " . I've been considering

investing in an external keyboard/mouse so I can sit farther from the laptop

(and not touch the " radioactive " keyboard area), and buying some

cooling/ventilation device. But right now, I'm at the point where I'm thinking

that buying a different laptop altogether might be worthwhile. I'm reluctant to

spend my limited savings on a new computer, because I've been trying to save

money to have my dental amalgams removed/replaced - but this EMF problem has

become so bothersome that if buying a different laptop would lead to some

relief, I might have to do that.

>

> I'm sure this issue has been discussed at some point - so forgive me if I'm

asking repetitive questions (it's hard to read too many old posts) - but I was

wondering if there were some brands and " versions " of laptops that are known to

emit less bothersome EMF than others. For example, I was able to read a recent

post that claimed that Samsung laptops are supposedly the least bothersome as

far as EMF, while Dell laptops are the most bothersome -- is this a generally

agreed-upon observation? Do older-model laptops emit more bothersome EMF than

the newer models? The laptop I've been using is a Dell Latitude D600 - a laptop

that came out in 2003/2004. Perhaps buying a different, more updated

brand/model would help?

>

> There was at least one other question I wanted to ask - but since this post

has gotten so long, I'll stop here. So if anyone can help me as far as

suggesting a " safer " brand/model laptop, or provide any other type of help - it

will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

>

> ~Svetaswan

>

> P.S. - I know an obvious " solution " would be to spend a lot less time on the

computer, or eliminate my computer use altogether, or go back to using a desktop

- but these options are much easier said than done. To say the least, it's not

easy for an addict to significantly cut down or eliminate an addiction - and

buying a desktop is completely impractical, given my living situation.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> puk replies - Try as I have done by using external keyboard and mouse on

> laptop and using ai squared zoomtext software so that I can see the text from

> 2m away, so I can put the laptop this far away from me, it helps apart

> from keyboard and mouse emissions.

>

Hi Puk - do you use a wired or wireless external keyboard/mouse? (I've heard of

pros and cons of each - I'm just trying to decide which is the lesser of the two

" evils " .)

~Svetaswan

[Guest guest]

Hi, Svetaswan,

 

Sorry you are not able to continue feeding your addiction as you have wished. 

  j/k  You are alarming honest.  That is rather novel!  So what you lack

in resolve, you certainly make up for in honesty.   

 

To your question....  I disagree with what was said in a recent post about

Toshiba laptops being good ES-wise and Dells being the worst.  That certainly

was not my personal experience.  I bought a Toshiba, couldn't tolerate it;

called the tech support for help and they could not give me any.  ANY!  They

told me they recommended I return it and lose the restocking fee.  No help at

all.  THEN I bought a Dell laptop.  I ordered an Inspiron Core Duo.  I

thought perhaps having the dual hard-drive might work to my benefit and it

has.  I also recommend ordering your laptop without a wifi card, if you can

(and really want to--if you are addicted you may find wifi to be impossible to

live without, but please, please, please realize you will probably just continue

to get worse if you use wifi right now.)  Wifi and broadband cards cannot be

turned off, as the switches that laptops have now suggest.  This only just

muffles the wifi signal to some

extent. 

 

Anyway.... back to Dell computers.  I initially reacted badly to my new Dell

laptop (now 3 yo), so I called Dell tech support.  For 30 days, almost

everyday, a Dell techie worked with me for 2 to 4 plus hours to remediate emfs

coming from my laptop.  We went systematically over the entire computer, seeing

if I could see a difference with any of the settings, they talked me thru

pulling out a couple of cards which I did not need, we went into the bios and

made changes, changed hardware device settings.....  Dell gives you 30 days

free software support and 1 yr free hardware support.  This was all free! 

Well, I should say at THAT time, it was all free--I don't know if that is still

the case.  If you buy a Dell now from www.QVC.com you have a 30 day, no

questions asked, full-price return warranty with a software and hardware

warranty, I do know that.  (But I bought mine from Dell directly at the

time.) 

 

The last night as I was ready to hang up the phone, the last techie who worked

with me was so sweet--told me he really hated seeing me go and hoped it would

all work out for me.  Compare THAT to Toshiba!  Now, I was still having some

problems with my laptop at that point, but by a month later I had worked the

rest out on my own.  I do think possibly the remaining problem was mostly

out-gassing (and I am chemically sensitive, too.)  Also, here on this

forum mentioned that laptop plugs are directional--the plug has to go in a

particular side up.  So I tried that and he was right.  I put some nail polish

on the top side and have been okay with that ever since.  Also, it is not

quite the case that EVERYthing is now fine--I continued reacting to down and

uploading and streaming video, but I walk out of the room during the former and

avoid sites with streaming video, so my computer is fine for me now.  Also,

after detoxing via homeopathy and

various supplements, I do well now even when performing those functions. 

(I own a Quantum Pro, as well, but do not use it at the house where my

computer is currently--long story.  I use no emf remediation devices at all on

my laptop.)  Btw, do not use your laptop on your lap, if you are currently

doing that--at least put it on a non-conductive surface in front of you, not on

you.  You don't need to drink in all of those frequencies.  Also, you might

try spending a little of your addicted time going out in nature.  To a river

side, lake, forest, a large park, lots of trees, lots of fresh air, lots of

water....  The more you do this, the more likely you will be able to tolerate

emfs.  Just don't take your laptop with you!  That would defeat the purpose

and it ruins nature for the rest of us .

 

Also, if you could get an old laptop--like one from before all the high speed

and wifi gismos--a Windows 98 or 2000 system, for instance, it might work for

you.  The USB port quit working on my old Micron 266 mHz laptop but if I

could still connect it to my DSL box, I'd be using it--it ran faster than most

new computers on DSL.  The only drawback here is you cannot get software, like

anti-virus, for an old puter like that.  So don't do your banking on it. 

 

This said, Svetaswan, you really ought to be asking yourself why you are getting

ill.  Lots of people use computers for many hours a day, what makes you so

special?  j/k  Do you have metal fillings, a history of toxic events, live in

an apartment setting, a wifi community, are you otherwise immune

compromised???  If you answer yes to any of these questions, you should

probably be spending some of your addiction time working on how you are going to

remediate the source of your problem.

 

Happy computing!  I wish you well,

Diane

From: svetaswan <svetaswan@...>

Subject: I've been fried by my laptop - help needed!

Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:53 PM

 

Hi - pardon me if this post isn't particularly well-written or organized - I've

been dealing with marked/severe symptoms of what is probably (well, at least in

part) electrosensitivity to my laptop. For this and other reasons, it's very

hard/taxing for me to write a basic post.

I have good reason to believe that I've been fried by my laptop - and the damage

appears to only be accumulating. I've been suffering from several bothersome

symptoms - and it seems that this laptop has made conditions that I was already

suffering from worse. Among my symptoms are: increased depression, increased

anxiety (my depression and anxiety were already severe/debilitating ), increased

" brain fog " , increased intellectual decline, apathy, lowered motivation, marked

difficulty in verbally expressing myself, accelerated aging (I noticed that my

skin seemed to start rapidly aging, all of a sudden - shortly after I started

using this laptop extensively) , increased sensitivity to light (from t.v.s,

lamps, etc.), increased sleep difficulties. This may not be the entire list, but

you get the gist. I also have evidence of increased Candida/yeast problems and

(further) hormonal disturbances (which may be contributing to some of the

above-listed symptoms).

Granted, I appear to be a full-blown computer/Internet addict - especially

recently. In recent months, I've been spending upwards of 12 hours per day on

the computer. I've used this laptop for many hours a day since I got it (almost

2 years ago) - and I noticed bothersome symptoms from the start. In the years

prior to getting this laptop, I logged *many* hours on a desktop (my addiction

isn't exactly a new/recent problem) - and, while I sometimes noticed symptoms,

they were *nothing* compared to what I've dealt with from using this laptop!

With the desktop - IF I had sensitivity symptoms, they seemed to only be

confined to when I was actually using the computer.... the symptoms didn't seem

to carry over to my off-computer times (then again, I could have been suffering

from " subtler " symptoms that I failed to attribute to the desktop). And my

problems seemed to be mainly confined to the monitor - not the actual computer.

But this laptop has been a real

monster: I've appeared to have had ever-accumulating problems with the

computer's general " electro-magnetic field " , in addition to problems with the

" brightness " of the monitor. I finally " tinkered " with the monitor to reduce its

brightness and color-intensity (and I slightly decreased the resolution) - and

that led to some relief. But I'm still plagued with considerable " EMF " problems.

I've tried a few products that are advertised to " neutralize " , or help

" transform " the harmful EMF frequencies to more " beneficial " frequencies - but

in general, the results were temporary and/or " iffy " . I've been considering

investing in an external keyboard/mouse so I can sit farther from the laptop

(and not touch the " radioactive " keyboard area), and buying some

cooling/ventilation device. But right now, I'm at the point where I'm thinking

that buying a different laptop altogether might be worthwhile. I'm reluctant to

spend my limited savings on a new computer, because I've been trying to save

money to have my dental amalgams removed/replaced - but this EMF problem has

become so bothersome that if buying a different laptop would lead to some

relief, I might have to do that.

I'm sure this issue has been discussed at some point - so forgive me if I'm

asking repetitive questions (it's hard to read too many old posts) - but I was

wondering if there were some brands and " versions " of laptops that are known to

emit less bothersome EMF than others. For example, I was able to read a recent

post that claimed that Samsung laptops are supposedly the least bothersome as

far as EMF, while Dell laptops are the most bothersome -- is this a generally

agreed-upon observation? Do older-model laptops emit more bothersome EMF than

the newer models? The laptop I've been using is a Dell Latitude D600 - a laptop

that came out in 2003/2004. Perhaps buying a different, more updated brand/model

would help?

There was at least one other question I wanted to ask - but since this post has

gotten so long, I'll stop here. So if anyone can help me as far as suggesting a

" safer " brand/model laptop, or provide any other type of help - it will be

greatly appreciated. Thanks.

~Svetaswan

P.S. - I know an obvious " solution " would be to spend a lot less time on the

computer, or eliminate my computer use altogether, or go back to using a desktop

- but these options are much easier said than done. To say the least, it's not

easy for an addict to significantly cut down or eliminate an addiction - and

buying a desktop is completely impractical, given my living situation.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for taking the time to post on this topic, Diane. I must admit that I

find parts of your post interesting - such as your detailed account of your

positive experience with Dell. Ah, well - I guess it's inevitable that there

will be widely differing opinions/experiences regarding various brands/models of

computers. Just when a " shadow " of doubt gets cast toward Dell by a couple of

posts - I guess it only makes sense that a positive account of Dell will follow.

Such is the nature of the Internet - and I guess the circumstances and nature of

this issue won't allow us to come to any definitive conclusions about a

particular brand of computer.

So you believe that sticking with an older-model laptop would be better? I was

thinking (or hoping) that having a newer laptop would be advantageous - because

laptop technology might have " evolved " to the point where there is more skill

and efficiency involoved in the laptop manufacturing process....which would

translate to less EMF " leakage " . Besides, there are more obvious advantages to

buying a new model - such as the product actually being under warranty, and

being able to successfully browse sites that use the latest technology. (For

ex., the videos on nfl.com don't play smoothly for me - I guess my laptop

doesn't have up-to-date enough hardware/software to be able to view those

videos.)

Other than that - my computing needs are pretty simple - just browsing, posting

on messageboards, watching YouTube videos, buying stuff online - and maybe the

occassional downloading of audio or video. I really don't need all of the

gizmos that, say, an Apple MacBook Pro offers.

But giving up WiFi would be a tough challenge, to say the least! I just don't

see how it would be practical - given my small house, limited space, etc., to

actually be burdened with a wired Internet connection. I could be wrong, but it

has been my " hunch " that the wireless signals don't really bother me: I mean, if

I didn't use this computer, and just sat around the house all day, I don't think

I would " feel " the wireless signals that are permeating throughout the house. I

do realize that the WiFi technology attached to the computer itself, though -

could be a different story.

With the laptop I'm using now - the internal WiFi card was somehow turned off or

removed altogether, which forces us to use a USB wireless adapter. This adapter

is plugged into a USB slot on the back of the computer. Is this arrangement

better than an internal WiFi card? (I really would like to know the answer to

this, so if anyone knows, I'd appreciate a response.)

And believe me - I'm pretty health-conscious - and effort that I've really

" stepped up " over the past 3-4 years. I try to stay away from fast food as much

as I can, I buy a lot of stuff organic - I've been taking supplements, etc. At

the time I started experiencing these laptop EMF problems - I had a pretty

conscientious habit of taking brisk walks around my neighborhood at least 3 days

per week. My worsening computer addiction has really been sabotaging these

efforts, though - I haven't walked regularly for months, and things have gotten

to the point where I'm not even motivated to eat regular meals, or even

adequately hydrate myself. (Therefore, I haven't been taking as many supplements

as I " should " .) And I feel like whatever health " gains " I've experienced by

eating healthier and taking supplements have been more than undermined by my

time spent in front of this " noxious " computer. So whatever nutrition would

ordinarily go toward improving or enhancing my health - has just gone toward

fighting a losing battle against the poisonous EMF of this laptop.

And I'm very much aware of the dental amalgam issue - I have been for many

months (even before I became increasingly aware/affected by this EMF problem).

For months, I've been taking very slow steps toward my goal of amalgam

replacement; trying to educate myself, taking lab tests, etc. But in recent

weeks/months, something has really sapped my motivation in this area - and I

think being " nuked " by these EMFs may be one possible cause of my lowered

motivation.

Sorry so long - I just wanted to clarify that my health awareness, and

health/nutritional habits - are not as bad as one would assume. I haven't been

sitting in front of this laptop eating Mcs for the past two years - far

from it. I've consumed way more frozen dinners from Whole Foods these past few

years than I have Burger King dinners. I've consumed more celery, raw " baby

romaine " , and other veggies than you may think. And for the most part, I've

been taking my share of supplements (right now, I'm striving to take at least

4,000mg of Vitamin C per day, for ex.).

All of this said - while I realize that my personal habits and health status are

influential factors....the brand/type of computer I'm using could be a factor as

well. There is a possibility that there are some brands/models of laptops out

there that wouldn't give me as severe of a problem as I'm having with this Dell.

~Svetaswan

>

> Hi, Svetaswan,

>  

> Sorry you are not able to continue feeding your addiction as you have

wished.    j/k  You are alarming honest.  That is rather novel!  So what

you lack in resolve, you certainly make up for in honesty.   

>  

> To your question....  I disagree with what was said in a recent post about

Toshiba laptops being good ES-wise and Dells being the worst.  That certainly

was not my personal experience.  I bought a Toshiba, couldn't tolerate it;

called the tech support for help and they could not give me any.  ANY!  They

told me they recommended I return it and lose the restocking fee.  No help at

all.  THEN I bought a Dell laptop.  I ordered an Inspiron Core Duo.  I

thought perhaps having the dual hard-drive might work to my benefit and it

has.  I also recommend ordering your laptop without a wifi card, if you can

(and really want to--if you are addicted you may find wifi to be impossible to

live without, but please, please, please realize you will probably just continue

to get worse if you use wifi right now.)  Wifi and broadband cards cannot be

turned off, as the switches that laptops have now suggest.  This only just

muffles the wifi signal to some

> extent. 

>  

> Anyway.... back to Dell computers.  I initially reacted badly to my new Dell

laptop (now 3 yo), so I called Dell tech support.  For 30 days, almost

everyday, a Dell techie worked with me for 2 to 4 plus hours to remediate emfs

coming from my laptop.  We went systematically over the entire computer, seeing

if I could see a difference with any of the settings, they talked me thru

pulling out a couple of cards which I did not need, we went into the bios and

made changes, changed hardware device settings.....  Dell gives you 30 days

free software support and 1 yr free hardware support.  This was all free! 

Well, I should say at THAT time, it was all free--I don't know if that is still

the case.  If you buy a Dell now from www.QVC.com you have a 30 day, no

questions asked, full-price return warranty with a software and hardware

warranty, I do know that.  (But I bought mine from Dell directly at the

time.) 

>  

> The last night as I was ready to hang up the phone, the last techie who worked

with me was so sweet--told me he really hated seeing me go and hoped it would

all work out for me.  Compare THAT to Toshiba!  Now, I was still having some

problems with my laptop at that point, but by a month later I had worked the

rest out on my own.  I do think possibly the remaining problem was mostly

out-gassing (and I am chemically sensitive, too.)  Also, here on this

forum mentioned that laptop plugs are directional--the plug has to go in a

particular side up.  So I tried that and he was right.  I put some nail polish

on the top side and have been okay with that ever since.  Also, it is not

quite the case that EVERYthing is now fine--I continued reacting to down and

uploading and streaming video, but I walk out of the room during the former and

avoid sites with streaming video, so my computer is fine for me now.  Also,

after detoxing via homeopathy and

> various supplements, I do well now even when performing those functions. 

(I own a Quantum Pro, as well, but do not use it at the house where my

computer is currently--long story.  I use no emf remediation devices at all on

my laptop.)  Btw, do not use your laptop on your lap, if you are currently

doing that--at least put it on a non-conductive surface in front of you, not on

you.  You don't need to drink in all of those frequencies.  Also, you might

try spending a little of your addicted time going out in nature.  To a river

side, lake, forest, a large park, lots of trees, lots of fresh air, lots of

water....  The more you do this, the more likely you will be able to tolerate

emfs.  Just don't take your laptop with you!  That would defeat the purpose

and it ruins nature for the rest of us .

>  

> Also, if you could get an old laptop--like one from before all the high speed

and wifi gismos--a Windows 98 or 2000 system, for instance, it might work for

you.  The USB port quit working on my old Micron 266 mHz laptop but if I

could still connect it to my DSL box, I'd be using it--it ran faster than most

new computers on DSL.  The only drawback here is you cannot get software, like

anti-virus, for an old puter like that.  So don't do your banking on it. 

>  

> This said, Svetaswan, you really ought to be asking yourself why you are

getting ill.  Lots of people use computers for many hours a day, what makes you

so special?  j/k  Do you have metal fillings, a history of toxic events, live

in an apartment setting, a wifi community, are you otherwise immune

compromised???  If you answer yes to any of these questions, you should

probably be spending some of your addiction time working on how you are going to

remediate the source of your problem.

>  

> Happy computing!  I wish you well,

> Diane

>

>

[Guest guest]

Intel just release 32nm chips (Core i7, i5 and i3)

that have the graphic processor integrated with

the main processor. They'll be available

in mainstream computers shortly. They are more

energy efficient, and hopefully emit less emf.

If your looking to just surf the web then

a netbook may be a better choice. Intel has an Atom

processor with integrated graphics. 32nm will be

released sometime this year.

and, your nuts for using wifi. Take the word from

an electrosensitive who feels it.

Eli

> >

> > Hi, Svetaswan,

> >  

> > Sorry you are not able to continue feeding your addiction as you have

wished.    j/k  You are alarming honest.  That is rather novel!  So what

you lack in resolve, you certainly make up for in honesty.   

> >  

> > To your question....  I disagree with what was said in a recent post about

Toshiba laptops being good ES-wise and Dells being the worst.  That certainly

was not my personal experience.  I bought a Toshiba, couldn't tolerate it;

called the tech support for help and they could not give me any.  ANY!  They

told me they recommended I return it and lose the restocking fee.  No help at

all.  THEN I bought a Dell laptop.  I ordered an Inspiron Core Duo.  I

thought perhaps having the dual hard-drive might work to my benefit and it

has.  I also recommend ordering your laptop without a wifi card, if you can

(and really want to--if you are addicted you may find wifi to be impossible to

live without, but please, please, please realize you will probably just continue

to get worse if you use wifi right now.)  Wifi and broadband cards cannot be

turned off, as the switches that laptops have now suggest.  This only just

muffles the wifi signal to some

> > extent. 

> >  

> > Anyway.... back to Dell computers.  I initially reacted badly to my new

Dell laptop (now 3 yo), so I called Dell tech support.  For 30 days, almost

everyday, a Dell techie worked with me for 2 to 4 plus hours to remediate emfs

coming from my laptop.  We went systematically over the entire computer, seeing

if I could see a difference with any of the settings, they talked me thru

pulling out a couple of cards which I did not need, we went into the bios and

made changes, changed hardware device settings.....  Dell gives you 30 days

free software support and 1 yr free hardware support.  This was all free! 

Well, I should say at THAT time, it was all free--I don't know if that is still

the case.  If you buy a Dell now from www.QVC.com you have a 30 day, no

questions asked, full-price return warranty with a software and hardware

warranty, I do know that.  (But I bought mine from Dell directly at the

time.) 

> >  

> > The last night as I was ready to hang up the phone, the last techie who

worked with me was so sweet--told me he really hated seeing me go and hoped it

would all work out for me.  Compare THAT to Toshiba!  Now, I was still having

some problems with my laptop at that point, but by a month later I had worked

the rest out on my own.  I do think possibly the remaining problem was mostly

out-gassing (and I am chemically sensitive, too.)  Also, here on this

forum mentioned that laptop plugs are directional--the plug has to go in a

particular side up.  So I tried that and he was right.  I put some nail polish

on the top side and have been okay with that ever since.  Also, it is not

quite the case that EVERYthing is now fine--I continued reacting to down and

uploading and streaming video, but I walk out of the room during the former and

avoid sites with streaming video, so my computer is fine for me now.  Also,

after detoxing via homeopathy and

> > various supplements, I do well now even when performing those functions. 

(I own a Quantum Pro, as well, but do not use it at the house where my

computer is currently--long story.  I use no emf remediation devices at all on

my laptop.)  Btw, do not use your laptop on your lap, if you are currently

doing that--at least put it on a non-conductive surface in front of you, not on

you.  You don't need to drink in all of those frequencies.  Also, you might

try spending a little of your addicted time going out in nature.  To a river

side, lake, forest, a large park, lots of trees, lots of fresh air, lots of

water....  The more you do this, the more likely you will be able to tolerate

emfs.  Just don't take your laptop with you!  That would defeat the purpose

and it ruins nature for the rest of us .

> >  

> > Also, if you could get an old laptop--like one from before all the high

speed and wifi gismos--a Windows 98 or 2000 system, for instance, it might work

for you.  The USB port quit working on my old Micron 266 mHz laptop but if I

could still connect it to my DSL box, I'd be using it--it ran faster than most

new computers on DSL.  The only drawback here is you cannot get software, like

anti-virus, for an old puter like that.  So don't do your banking on it. 

> >  

> > This said, Svetaswan, you really ought to be asking yourself why you are

getting ill.  Lots of people use computers for many hours a day, what makes you

so special?  j/k  Do you have metal fillings, a history of toxic events, live

in an apartment setting, a wifi community, are you otherwise immune

compromised???  If you answer yes to any of these questions, you should

probably be spending some of your addiction time working on how you are going to

remediate the source of your problem.

> >  

> > Happy computing!  I wish you well,

> > Diane

>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Logic will lead me to believe that if the

graphics processor is integrated with the

main chip then there will be much smaller

current loops between the two, thus less EMF.

They also throttle the speed of the new processors,

depending on demand. Add more energy efficiency with

32nm and it all seems promising. We'll have to wait

and see.

Eli

>

> > Intel just release 32nm chips (Core i7, i5 and i3)

> > that have the graphic processor integrated with

> > the main processor. They'll be available

> > in mainstream computers shortly. They are more

> > energy efficient, and hopefully emit less emf.

>

> Does anyone have any reason to believe that the

> newer dual and quad core processors are any worse for

> electrically sensitive folks than the older

> single processor chips (which I currently have) ?

>

> Marc

>