Re: Re: Constant EMF reading = faulty wiring?

[Guest guest]

> Dump the dimmer switch. They're noisy as hell.

Yes, try lower wattage bulbs instead. Also, use

incandescent lights instead of compact florescents, as

they appear to be much more tolerable.

I use the full-spectrum incandescent, but I don't

think that makes any difference from an ES standpoint.

Marc

[Guest guest]

I recommend that you contact Keen

ck1@...

an electrical specialist in Florida and talk with him. I recommend

talking to him with your skeptical partner on the other phone.

is very quiet and extremely pensive and accurate. He doesn't ever

exaggerate and is a very rational person.

He knows about all about wiring problems, sensitivities (thanks to me)

and much more.

Make sure you have your meters ready before the call so you can tell

him what is going on. You can also book a personal appearance for only

$350.

On Dec 18, 2006, at 7:41 PM, Aline wrote:

> Hi Eli, thanks for your replies.

>

> Just to clarify: the couch is not near the TV and the readings go to

> zero as I move closer to the TV (until I get right up close, of

> course). So the problem is evidently with the electrical box under

> the floor which emits a higher field when the TV (and lights) are on.

>

>> Dump the dimmer switch. They're noisy as hell.

>> If your uncomfortable, stay away from the tv before you become

>> even more sensitive.

>> It's not uncommon to have a few miligauss in certain areas. I

>> wouldn't sit there. My apartment had an ambient field of 0.6 -

>> 1.5 mg. Now I'm sick, and the prospects are not good.

>

> I want to find out if this is normal or if it is due to faulty wiring

> (in which case something could be done about it). Same for the nearby

> plug which has a constant reading of 2 milligauss (with nothing

> plugged into it) and this high electrical reading of 100 volts/meter

> nearby. Maybe I need to ask an electrician about this (??).

>

>> It sounds like your becoming sensitized to the EMFs emitted by

>> the computer. Welcome to the club of people who are sensitive

>> to computers, yet the fields are negligible where you sit. The

>> power may decrease by the square of the distance, yet the fields

>> do go to infinity. Watch out! Once your sensitized it's very, very

>> difficult to get better. If it hurts, lay off.

>

> I've always been sensitive - get very drained using a computer etc. I

> am becoming more sensitive through sheer bombardment in this new

> home, however. We used to live in a house with much bigger rooms and

> higher ceilings so everything was further away. We used to be on the

> ground floor too which I think makes a difference, and in the

> countryside (now we are in a town).

>

> That is interesting to know that fields extend infinitely. The energy

> in our living room feels so dense I can hardly stand it. There are 9

> speakers near the TV, 5 of which are very large (the biggest one has

> readings of over 100 gauss at the back). Only 3 of them are being

> used but it feels to me like they are filling up the whole room with

> a force field. I'm hoping to persuade him to move them (but first on

> the list is persuading him to raise the ceiling fans, which feel to

> me like they are conducting this energy).

>

> It's difficult when the person you a sharing a home with does not

> really want to believe what you are experiencing. This is why I need

> some rational explanations re what is going on.

>

> If it was just me I would simply trust what I am feeling and take

> steps to improve things through trial and error.

>

> One thing in my favor: we build houses so will have some control over

> what happens in the next house we live in - much easier than

> retrofitting I would think. Trying to get educated now.

>

> Aloha,

> Aline

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am sure he thinks you're weak and making this up.

Get a professional involved so it is not you vs. him and his fear based

reaction.

On Dec 18, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Aline wrote:

> It's difficult when the person you a sharing a home with does not

> really want to believe what you are experiencing. This is why I need

> some rational explanations re what is going on.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Aline wrote:

> course). So the problem is evidently with the electrical box under

> the floor which emits a higher field when the TV (and lights) are on.

>

>

Unshielded AC wiring and electrical junctions are locations of annoying

electric fields.

When measuring _magnetic_ fields around wiring, it is the current or

amount of Amps flowing through the wiring.

So mg readings can go down to background levels, when appliances are off.

But unless the mains are turned off, the electric fields are still there.

Measure them best with body voltage.

The only way to co-exist with AC power is 1. metal conduit for shielding

(only in public buildings, or do-it-yourself houses) and 2. Keep away

from the wiring.

>> Dump the dimmer switch. They're noisy as hell.

>>

Agreed. It is best to replace them with a simple light switch, and

manage lighting levels with different bulbs.

The noise made by dimmer switches can be easily measured with a

battery-operated AM radio. Tune around 700 and move the radio around the

room, then next to the switch.

The same noise can also be measured with the Graham-Stetzer meter

<http://lessemf.com/suppress.html>.

> home, however. We used to live in a house with much bigger rooms and

> higher ceilings so everything was further away. We used to be on the

> ground floor too which I think makes a difference, and in the

> countryside (now we are in a town).

>

If you are no longer on the ground floor, you must now worry about the

rooms below you. For example, if the room below has fluorescent

lighting, then you may be Walking on the Transformer Ballast. And that

is definitely high emf exposure.

> It's difficult when the person you a sharing a home with does not

> really want to believe what you are experiencing. This is why I need

> some rational explanations re what is going on.

>

>

If you can " see " the fields with a meter, then they are more believable.

The tri-field meter averages the 3 axis, so gives lower readings than

are relevant for sensitive people.

Get a less expensive 1-axis gauss meter. Then by aiming it, you can see

the direction of the fields, and eventually the spiral patterns of

magnetic fields (like distribution lines from the power company)

Also, by using a simple multimeter, showing body voltage is an excellent

way for Anyone to see the effect the wiring has on You, and Him.

Neither gauss meter or electric field meter are appropriate to measuring

computers, wifi, cellphones, and tv electronics.

Those are the signals were spoken of as infinite, although actually on a

log-rhythmic curve.

Only solutions for these emissions, are shielding and distance. Miles of

distance in some cases.

Happy hunting (for source of fields) or to say, good luck,

[Guest guest]

> I want to find out if this is normal or if it is due to faulty wiring

> (in which case something could be done about it). Same for the nearby

> plug which has a constant reading of 2 milligauss (with nothing

> plugged into it) and this high electrical reading of 100 volts/meter

> nearby. Maybe I need to ask an electrician about this (??).

This sounds like " normal " wiring to me. The readings on my power

outlets will go up if there are other items using power on that

same circuit in the room (or elsewhere). 2 milligauss doesn't

sound " bad " to me (and if I'm wrong, someone please correct me!)

Also, you can get an outlet tester for a few dollars which will

tell you if your outlets are wired correctly. I bought mine

online at lessemf.com, but I think you may be able to find them

in hardware stores. When I moved into a new house this year,

I found several outlets that were mis-wired, and had them

corrected before we moved in.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Marc wrote:

> This sounds like " normal " wiring to me. The readings on my power

> outlets will go up if there are other items using power on that

> same circuit in the room (or elsewhere).

True, the current will flow the length of the wire to get to the

appliance that is on.

> 2 milligauss doesn't

> sound " bad " to me (and if I'm wrong, someone please correct me!)

>

But, I beg to differ here. 2mG should only be near a motor or fan or

etc. From the wire itself, it should be of concern only within ONE

foot. (1 ft.)

Are there distribution power lines nearby?

I remember one Bionare air filter that had a measurable field extending

to a radius of 12 ft.

and on the opposite end of the scale, a Lee Flour Mill that has a radius

of only 6 inches.

An example of good engineering.

[Guest guest]

Electric Ovens can produce 150 mG up close. As far as the wiring, you

will get readings up close to boxes and wires. The most important thing

to me is NOT have any readings were you sleep, eat or sit for most of

the day.

If you have a house that has a baseline 2-3 mG throughout the house, I

recommend moving out or redoing the wiring with an expert. Double check

that you are not near outside powerlines that are casting a magnetic

field blanket through house. That is a definite move situation.

On Dec 23, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Aline wrote:

> Just tested some other areas of floor and found that when I switch

> the oven on there is a reading of 4-8 milligauss under the dining

> room table 10 foot away. Can this really be normal?

[Guest guest]

Hi Aline,

> To clarify: quite a large area of floor (where wiring presumably goes

> from the wall near the couch in the direction of the

> kitchen) has a constant reading of up to 3 milligauss.

>

>

That seems high.

> An electrical reading of 110 volts is present about a foot away from

> a dimmer switch on the wall near the couch (when it is switched on).

>

>

110 Volts, AC? a foot away?? I don't understand what is being measured here.

Body voltage is measured in milliVolts, up to 3V when standing under

distribution lines, or in a building with no shielding.

> There is a reading of up to 3 milligauss at a socket on the same wall

> (with nothing plugged into it). No readings at any other socket

> anywhere at the house.

>

>

Having nothing plugged in there, does not discount that there can be

electricity _Flowing_ past that location.

It would be good to know where else that particular circuit (breaker)

feeds to.

> Seems to me that something is not right. We are sitting in this 3

> milligauss field for long periods of time (actually I am becoming so

> uncomfortable there that I am starting to avoid watching TV).

>

At first glance, 3 milligauss sounds unlikely. Unless your house is

right under major distribution lines, or something unusual is On Very

Close by...

But since it is terribly uncomfortable, I will say something is very

wrong here.

Can you map out where the field is strongest, and weakest? North, East, etc.

Then walk around the house, and expand the search to the neighborhood.

Do you see power lines overhead, (or buried can be worse.)

Write down the readings at various locations as you're walking around.

Is there a pattern?

If it is equally high outside, and there are no obvious power lines

nearby.... Then... would you be willing to share what city/state you are in?

> Just tested some other areas of floor and found that there are

> constant readings of 4-8 milligauss under the dining

> room table (which is 10 foot away from the kitchen). Can this really

> be normal?

>

What is under the floor at the table?

No, I would not consider that normal at all. Possible, yes. but not Normal.

What happens when the Main circuit breaker is turned off?

If it makes a difference, turn the breakers back on, _One_ at a time.

Take notes of which circuits are offending.

It may be necessary to turn everything off (especially at night), except

probably the fridge, and other essential perishable equipment.

> Any other thoughts?

>

> Thanks again for your input and Merry Christmas!

>

>

Glad to help, I'll await more info.

[Guest guest]

See if you can find which breakers are to your bedroom. If needed, turn

off the power to your bedroom at night to get all the readings as low

as possible in your bed so your body has a better chance to rejuvenate.

Of course, remove any electrical devices from near the bed, clocks,

lamps, phones, that carry a charge. The springs in your bed will

attract electrical and Radio Frequencies and conduct them into your

body. Springs also, by themselves, because of their circular twist,

will create a field.

Go with a metal-less bed if possible.

by 2 cents,

On Dec 26, 2006, at 4:41 AM, Aline wrote:

> I will also test the breakers in the next few days.