Guest guest Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 > Electric that reads changes in voltage as a function of time (dV/dt). A healthy > level is under 50. Most of my outlets showed a solid " 1 " , with but some were > fluctuating around 1900. I called Stetzer Electric and learned that the > meter only displays up to 1999 This article was interesting enough that I pulled out my (largely unused) Stetzerizer meter. I found some of the readings last night rather curious, although I don't have an explanation yet. For example, I was getting a reading of ~500 in my den last night before I went to bed. So I unplugged and turned off everything in the room, and it was still high. However, when I looked at it the next morning, the reading was down to 50, even though there seemed to be no difference in what was turned on and plugged in. Then I turned back on the 2 computers, routers, printer, etc., and the reading went up to 100. At least that makes sense. But I still have no explanation for the high readings from last night. I'd blame it on my next door neighbor, except that neither of them are home... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2005 Report Share Posted August 6, 2005 Hello Marc, I am also playing around with my Stetzerizer Meter. It is quite interesting. It reads 39, 46, 69, 106, and than 456, than 39, 45, 49, and 562. With my HAARP or VLF Detektor in the position 5 kHz -30 kHz, it gives this pulse, just before the amout on the meter occurs. This pulse I have found, coming from the street, from two installation cabinets of a company, that furnishes cabel television and cable internet. Just behind those cabinets, there is a pole, which guides the electricity mains to my house. If I check the poles at my neighbours, the signals get weaker as I go farther away. So the signals are definitely coming from those cabinets. I have filed a complaint with this company, and also with my electricity company, because I get *dirty* electricty. (It is not *green*, but *black*,. ;o)) ) So far no comment, because many people are in holidays. But in due time I want it fixed. The Stetzer filter does something strange too. If I place a filter in the mains, and plug the Stetzerzer Mter in it, the peak value goes to only 108 GS, in stead of 562 GS units. But, my HAARP Detektor, holding against the wall, above the wallsocket (10 cm) gives a higher value. I mean that he finds a raise in signals by the filter and the meter. Nothing placed: 100-200 V/m (the higher value is the pulse, which I can hear very clearly) With Stetzerizer Meter plugged and filter in between: 150 to 700 V/m Without Stetzerizer Meter but only the filter: from 100 to 200 V/m The Haarp Detektor has a LED scale from 10 too 1000 (V/m ?) So, something funny is going on. It seems, as if the disturbing pulses are weakend after the filter, but reinforced in the mains line. Perhaps that is the reason, that they advise for placing at least 25 filters in your home. I think, that those companies should see, that I get *clean* electricity in the first place. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Re: Stetzerizer meter > > Electric that reads changes in voltage as a function of time (dV/dt). A healthy > > level is under 50. Most of my outlets showed a solid " 1 " , with but some were > > fluctuating around 1900. I called Stetzer Electric and learned that the > > meter only displays up to 1999 > > This article was interesting enough that I pulled out my (largely unused) > Stetzerizer meter. I found some of the readings last night rather > curious, although I don't have an explanation yet. For example, > I was getting a reading of ~500 in my den last night before I went to bed. > So I unplugged and turned off everything in the room, and it was still > high. However, when I looked at it the next morning, the reading > was down to 50, even though there seemed to be no difference in what > was turned on and plugged in. > > Then I turned back on the 2 computers, routers, printer, etc., and the > reading went up to 100. At least that makes sense. But I still have > no explanation for the high readings from last night. I'd blame it > on my next door neighbor, except that neither of them are home... > > Marc > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 > Can it really vary this much? I'm trying to make sense of this before > shelling out for filters which I can't really afford. Yes, it can vary quite a lot, depending on whatever is contributing to the noise on the line, and whether that thing is turned on or off. The question is -- do you feel noticeably worse when the readings are high compared to when the readings are low? If you don't notice any difference, then perhaps the Stetzer filters won't provide you any noticeable benefit. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I understand that readings are influenced by what our neighbors are doing also but it doesn't seem to make any difference if our 2 computers are off or on. Is it mainly computers that produce electrical pollution (I know dimmers switches do also but it is unlikely that people have them on during the day when I have often tested). I guess I will have to test in the middle of the night when it is unlikely anyone has much switched on. Thanks for any further clarification. Aline It just doesn't In , Marc <marc@...> wrote: Can it really vary this much? I'm trying to make sense of this before shelling out for filters which I can't really afford. Yes, it can vary quite a lot, depending on whatever is contributing to the noise on the line, and whether that thing is turned on or off. The question is -- do you feel noticeably worse when the readings are high compared to when the readings are low? If you don't notice any difference, then perhaps the Stetzer filters won't provide you any noticeable benefit. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 It makes sense that it varies a lot. Certain types of electric motors and electronics running will make a big difference (in your house or in any house sharing the same transformer). Plugging the electronics in to a good surge protector might help. A possible way to see if it will help you is to experiment with turning off breakers. If that doesn't help, I don't see how filters can. And when you turn off the breaker you're also cutting out the 60Hz fields, which the filters don't do (in fact they increase the magnetic field a bit, so you want the filters close to the source of the noise and far from you). On the other hand, the breaker box may have huge fields, especially when open, so spending a lot of time experimenting with it could make you feel worse? Take care and good luck--Bill On 7/2/07, Aline <haikuron@...> wrote: > > I have been using a Stetzerizer meter to measure the electrical > pollution in circuits and sometimes the readings are below 50 and other > times they are off the richter (a huge number flashes (often over 1,000 > and then the meter reads 1 on the left side of the gauge, which I have > been told is what happens when the readings are higher than the meter > can register). > > Can it really vary this much? I'm trying to make sense of this before > shelling out for filters which I can't really afford. > > Thanks, > Aline > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 > Is it mainly computers that produce electrical pollution (I know > dimmers switches do also but it is unlikely that people have them on > during the day when I have often tested). Our washing machine registers very high frequencies on the stetzer meter when its in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 I regularly see readings of over 1000 when no appliances or computers are running except the fridge (as I said it flashes on a huge number then goes to 1) so I am presuming the readings are being generated from neighbors. Something doesn't feel right about this. The person I purchased the meter from says she has seen this phenomena (the dial going to 1) in schools but not residential housing. I generally feel like crap in the living room and kitchen - feel invaded by energy. I can feel it going up my legs and into my energy centers when I stand in the kitchen cooking. Yesterday I was trying to clean the floors and I reached the point where I wanted to scream and throw things. Had to go outside. Also getting wi-fied in the bedrooms and it feels like the metal in the bed is intensifying it. Can't stay in the bed more than 10 minutes - I feel 'electrified'. Sleeping on a futon in the bathroom currently but I'm still getting wi-fried in there, just not as badly. Aaaaagh " What's it going to be next? " (to quote my husband). We are probably going to put the house on the market but I don't know if I will survive till then. It's an uphill struggle trying to get my partner to believe me, let alone make changes ( " you want me to tear the house apart....... " ). Apologies for the rant. Aline I have been using a Stetzerizer meter to measure the electrical pollution in circuits and sometimes the readings are below 50 and other times they are off the richter (a huge number flashes (often over 1,000 and then the meter reads 1 on the left side of the gauge, which I have mbeen told is what happens when the readings are higher than the meter can register). Can it really vary this much? I'm trying to make sense of this before shelling out for filters which I can't really afford. Thanks, Aline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 Hi , thanks for your response. Neighbors are quite close (30-40' on the bedroom side where the wi-fi is coming from). I was using a swiffer in the living room, not a vacuum cleaner but there are hot spots from wiring all over that area. I dream about camping outside but it would invade the privacy of our vacation rental guests downstairs and then there's the neighbor's A/C and porch lights....... I believe the problem in the bedroom is predominantly wi-fi and the kitchen/living/dining is predominantly magnetic fields from wiring. I can feel the energy going up my legs when I stand in the kitchen. There are some spots I stay right away from as I can feel it so strongly. I know some people say that it is the electrical pollution on the 60hz rather than the clean 60hz itself that causes the problems. I'm sure the radio frequencies from the wi-fi are travelling on the electrical circuits too, however. I feel fine in the apartment below (which has no hotspots) although I'm sure I would have a problem sleeping in the bedroom (which is also wi-fied). I also feel fine in other houses, although being in this house has sensitized me to things like fluorescent lights and microwave ovens - things that I hardly noticed previously. Aline In , " S. son " <sandreas41@...> wrote: Aline wrote: I regularly see readings of over 1000 when no appliances or computers are running except the fridge (as I said it flashes on a huge number then goes to 1) so I am presuming the readings are being generated from neighbors. I forget if you said (months ago), but how close are your nearest neighbors? Something doesn't feel right about this. The person I purchased the meter from says she has seen this phenomena (the dial going to 1) in schools but not residential housing. Schools have Lots and lots of fluorescent lighting, and the newer " electronic " ones are noisier than the old fashioned flickering ones. The meter does measure noise on the line. Dirty power can be seen on an oscilloscope. You may be right, in that filters might not help. Depends on where the noise is coming from. I generally feel like crap in the living room and kitchen - feel invaded by energy. I can feel it going up my legs and into my energy centers when I stand in the kitchen cooking. Yesterday I was trying to clean the floors and I reached the point where I wanted to scream and throw things. Had to go outside. The vacuum is a possible noise maker. What you describe, are locations with high magnetic fields, or electric fields. Are you rural enough to camp outside? somewhere away from power lines and neighbors? Also getting wi-fied in the bedrooms and it feels like the metal in the bed is intensifying it. Can't stay in the bed more than 10 minutes - I feel 'electrified'. Sleeping on a futon in the bathroom currently but I'm still getting wi-fried in there, just not as badly. Who has a wi-fi transmitter? nearby? Sounds like duck soup. Too many things going on to single out any one cause. Aaaaagh " What's it going to be next? " (to quote my husband). We are probably going to put the house on the market but I don't know if I will survive till then. It's an uphill struggle trying to get my partner to believe me, let alone make changes ( " you want me to tear the house apart....... " ). Apologies for the rant. The more details you give, the more it usually helps. My sympathies. I can only recommend moving. How do you feel in Other houses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 Hi Yolanda, I didn't explain clearly: we don't have wireless (no way!) but we are getting signals from at least 4 other systems in our house. The signal is so strong in the bedroom that the electrosmog detector goes off. I am actually wondering now if the ES detector is picking up a DECT phone rather than wireless as we talked to our closest neighbor on the bedroom side and he swears he switches off his wi-fi most nights. Re a swiffer: are we talking about the same thing? A plastic 'broom' thing that grips a clingy fabric sheet?! Chemical fallout? Thanks for clarifying, Aline I was using a swiffer in the living room, not a vacuum cleaner but there are hot spots from wiring all over that area. I feel fine in the apartment below (which has no hotspots) although I'm sure I would have a problem sleeping in the bedroom (which is also wi-fied I seem to recall something about swiffers being really nasty as far as the chemical fall out from them. I wouldn't have one. You or anybody else would be much better to hard wire your wireless router right into the electricity. A wireless is not only picking up the emf from your equipment but from everyone else's equipment in your neighborhood. Also if you are wireless your system can very easily be hacked into. When we finally got cable, the cable installers wired the wireless right into our system. It took about a minute and didn't cost us anything extra. Yolanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Hello all, I finally managed to get hold of a stetzerizer meter a month ago. Feel well in Brisbane.100- 160 w/o filter, less with. Uni library 100- 200. First unwell in Melbourne home. Readings ok, to I think 160 w/o filter, expected more. Shot up to 700s with washing machine spin cycle (I'm sure variable speed drive in machine, I've always had symptoms after that machine used). Light dimmer on halogens put it up about 100 when on I think. But next to my bed that I used to occupy when this started years ago there is a power plug. Cleaning woman used was uncoordinated and used to stand on it so clock radio plug would hang out. When tested and plug was jiggled (as it used to hang out) it would shoot up to 700s then down, only when plug loose- poor connection. I mentioned dowsing lines were here adjacent some time ago. I remember that plug hanging loose. To place where I stayed in Melbourne for last 7 years. Mansion split up into units. Diabetic friend next door. Just lost a lens cataract, plastic implant. Prior brain surgery for trigeminal neuralgia. Other mate neighbour serious arthritis hobbles along. Other guy out the back serious illness, resuscitated in the carpark. Other neighbour moved in upstairs 1 yr, alcohol since, 6 mo since diabetes diagnosis. I am sure it is a sick building. I mentioned my own issue previous. Stetzer during day- 200- 220. At night with tvs on all units occupied max 993, avg 800- 900. I went to get a local dr to set up a study to replicated stetz blood glucose 3 yrs ago. He said yes, but I got distracted. As I do. 1 yr away from Melbourne I'm running on treadmill. We need follow up on bl glucose. It is quite possible that obesity epidemic may be linked to dirty wiring producing glucose surges- large community and public interest there. We can crossmatch GS with bgl with heart rate variability and sleep, symptoms. Stetzer meters: Pr Graham and Stetzer have done a great job with this concept and service to us. Meter readings must be logged or they are not good enough- large weekly changes. Aline's story interesting. GS Meter circuit is patented. For those who already own one, we need to drill a couple of holes in the front of the meter and wire in a little voltage or current plug- two little pins into the circuit where you can plug in a logging device and it will store a weeks readings without damaging the machine or altering the readings. I will get onto a mate shortly to knock out a circuit. GS MEters are copyright, these not for sale, DIY. With logging meters its not hard to plug them in at home, stab yourself with a bgl pin every day and run a very simple investigation. Hope my mate Nicko will help me, but anybody here who can modify a bit of electronics great. Even cross compare with sleep. Do a few correlations. I've seen one report where the Canadian govt try to knock the meter and they point out in artificial conditions it can produce harmonics. I wonder if this produce occasionally reported disagreements with some people? A harmonic filter on the switch (expensive) should help. Like Marc's one (Furman)? Filters in all my circumstances lower readings. Filters now hum having copped a few surges. I guarantee I will recontact my fellows who lived with me previously in box hill and see how they go with some GS filters after they have had them a year. I note that at the Melbourne WHO conference Pr Laurie Challis pointed out that many models showed no damage from EMF, except more advanced (called nonlinear) models of EMF in what I think he said was the VLF range- same as GS filters. I would like to contact Pr Challis and get these models but may have offended him at the conference, oh well. Very interested in comments of 30 KHz from tv NOT connected to mains. Wonder if pickup from transformer in tv. Any ideas from anyone? Also space near computer (presumably measured with loop antenna?)- is a computer monitor a primary radiator of these VLF signals? VLF would normally sit on a wire, being called conductive. Maybe when the get aggressive they can radiate? I am quite interested in these GS VLF signals and how they interact with hotspots, cancer cluster sites and what some consider geopathic stress. Sidetracking to cancer cluster sites: official organisations have displayed that they may not have due candour when allowing readings to be taken. But sometimes cancer clusters hit civilan homes. There is a nasty cluster in Castle Ave near Sheffield I think UK. The UK volunteers are overstretched as it is, and I've had the police called on me doing a doorknock myself at a possible cluster (!!), but if somebody could get to castle ave and see if they have high GS readings, as Lloyd found at a high school recently, that could be a great help to them, and also to us. I'm wondering if noisy VLF is 'TURBULENT ELECTRICITY' related to longitudinal waves, versus CLEAN 'LAMINAR ELECTRICITY'. I'm guessing whether high GS readings may be a marker for longitudinal waves which may exist. Good to hear of typical readings. I will not live in Box Hill anymore I think, even with filters, just to be sure. I have just ordered a soundblaster audigy sound card and got some probes. I want to record these signals over an extended period. There is an interesting article in May 'Elektor' magazine on that sort of thing. A man says these signals emanate out of the ground near his home. I want to know if they're associated with geopathic stress. I haven't forgotten mentioning a bit of a funding society some weeks ago. I will knock up a little suggestion following that of those who have already suggested it in about a month and send it to the societies, if anybody is interested. Societies are good at their activism, every now and then they need some research funding ties. Good to hear about typical GS values- maybe a list in the files section as a database? Cool, Rowster C. > > > Is it mainly computers that produce electrical pollution (I know > > dimmers switches do also but it is unlikely that people have them on > > during the day when I have often tested). > > > Our washing machine registers very high frequencies on the stetzer meter > when its in use. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Aline mentioned that she does not see a difference in the Steter meter readings when her own computers are on vs. off. I'd like to point out that the meter has to be plugged into the same line that the computers are, to see what effect they are having re. electrical pollution. If the computers are on the building's A line and the meter is plugged into the B line, you won't be able to tell what they are adding, over on the A line. Shivani www.LifeEnergies.com ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Hi Shivani, I did plug the meter into a socket in the office and we also tested with it plugged into the nearest socket to the meter box and then turning off all the other circuits one by one except the nearest one (on both phases) and it showed 1 every time. So I can only presume that these readings are coming from outside. You recommended 20 filters but I understand that I need to put them near the meter box so not quite sure how to do that. Any advice? Thanks, Aline In , SArjuna@... wrote: Aline mentioned that she does not see a difference in the Steter meter readings when her own computers are on vs. off. I'd like to point out that the meter has to be plugged into the same line that the computers are, to see what effect they are having re. electrical pollution. If the computers are on the building's A line and the meter is plugged into the B line, you won't be able to tell what they are adding, over on the A line. Shivani www.LifeEnergies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 The Health Canada " study " of the GS filters is not science, and was done with the sole intention of discrediting the filters. Dr. Havas's letter to Health Canada: GS Filters/Health Canada, Oct. 2006 mhavas@... page 1/5 Magda Havas, B.Sc., Ph.D. Environmental & Resource Studies TRENT UNIVERSITY, PETERBOROUGH, ONTARIO, CANADA, K9J 7B8 Phone: (705) 748-1011 ext. 1232, FAX: (705) 748-1569, e-mail mhavas@... Open letter to Health Canada Response to: Evaluation of the Stetzer Filters1 October 10, 2006 The Honorable Tony Clement, Minister of Health, Health Canada. clement.j@... I raise a serious concern about a document1 written by six scientists at Health Canada's Consumer and Clinical Protection Bureau that was recently posted on the BC Centre for Disease Control2 web site. The Health Canada scientists purport to test the effectiveness of the Graham/Stetzer filters to reduce dirty electricity. This document does not appear on the Health Canada web site and has not been published in a peer-reviewed journal. Had it been peer reviewed it would not have been accepted for the obvious errors I mention below. This document is more concerned in protecting the electric utility than it is in protecting the health of Canadians. It surprises me that Health Canada would approve release of this document with so many fundamental errors. It is my understanding that this document has been circulated widely yet the Health Canada authors did not have the courtesy to send a copy of their report to the designers of this filter, Professor Graham (UC Berkeley) and Mr. Dave Stetzer (President of Stetzer Electric). I ask you to look into this matter. Dave Stetzer has agreed to demonstrate how the filters work using appropriate equipment and I ask you to encourage your scientists at Health Canada to take him up on his offer. What follows is my evaluation of and response to the Health Canada document1. Sincerely, Magda Havas 1 Gajda, G., A. Thansandote, E. Lemay, D. Lecuyer, W. Gorman, and J. McNamee. 2006. Report on Evaluation of Stetzer Filters, Consumer and Clinical Radiation Protection Bureau, Health Canada. 2 BCCDC web site: www.bccdc.org/content.php?.item=62 NOTE: This agency states the following: Cell Phones: Scientific evidence to date has not presented convincing evidence from either animal, cellular, laboratory studies or epidemiology to implicate electromagnetic radiation exposure from portable phones as a cause of cancer. Cellular Transmitting Towers: Most research studies conducted to date have not shown that electromagnetic fields surrounding a cellular transmitter site cause cancer or other adverse health effects in the population. Power Frequency Electric and Magnetic Fields: Therefore the available scientific evidence to date does not support the assumption that adverse health effects from exposure to these fields at levels normally encountered in our homes, schools and offices pose a risk to human health. GS Filters/Health Canada, Oct. 2006 mhavas@... page 2/5 Havas, M. 2006. Response to: Evaluation of the Stetzer Filters. Open letter to Health Canada, October 10, 2006. Many products are now available to help people who suffer from exposure to electromagnetic energy and it is right for Health Canada to take these claims seriously and to test the products to see if they do indeed accomplish what they claim. Obviously this is what Health Canada had in mind when they decided to test the GS filters. I applaud them for this but am deeply disturbed by some of the fundamental errors they made during the testing of these filters and in the flawed document they produced. Health Canada used equipment that neither had the appropriate range of frequencies nor had the needed sensitivity to test the GS filters? Health Canada inappropriately applied equations intended for linear loads to non-linear loads? Health Canada claimed that the GS filters produce dirty electricity that may be harmful to human health when they previously denied any harmful effects of dirty electricity? Health Canada seems more concerned about the impact these filters might have on the electricity providers rather than the impact dirty electricity might have on the health of Canadians, as their name implies? This open letter is intended to set the record straight and to offer Health Canada a demonstration of what the GS filters do using appropriate equipment. I will deal with some of the more blatant errors in the Health Canada document and try to keep it as concise and non-technical as possible so that others will see what Health Canada has done or failed to do. I understand that Dr. Don Hillman (Michigan State University) responded earlier this year to statements made in this document concerning biological effects of dirty electricity and that Dr. Graham (UC Berkeley) plans to respond to the electrical engineering aspects based on the Health Canada study design and execution. 1. The GS filters remove dirty electricity within the frequency range of 4 to 100 kHz (4,000 and 100,000 cycles per second) and their ability to reduce microsurges above and below this range falls off rapidly. This was clearly stated in the Havas and Stetzer (2004) document cited by Health Canada. So why did Health Canada use equipment that covered the range of 50 Hz to 5 kHz? There was an overlap of 1 kHz and this tested 1% of the effective frequency range of the filters. Clearly inappropriate instrumentation was used and hence Health Canada can make no claims as to whether or not the filters work because they were unable to test the filters properly. This alone makes the entire document worthless as a test of the effectiveness of the GS filters to reduce dirty electricity in the 4 to 100 kHz frequency range (Figure 1). overlap 4 to 5 kHz (1% effective range of GS filters) instrument used by Health Canada 50 Hz to 5 kHz effective range of GS filters 4 kHz to 100 kHz frequency (kHz) 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 Figure 1. Frequency range for GS filter, frequency range for equipment Health Canada used to test the GS filters, overlapping frequencies. 0 GS Filters/Health Canada, Oct. 2006 mhavas@... page 3/5 2. The dirty electricity rides on top of the 60 Hz sine wave yet Health Canada made no attempt to separate the 60 Hz cycle from the high frequencies. They could have used a ubiquitous filter and thus had more accuracy for the higher frequencies for at least 1 kHz of the overlap between the instrumentation and the filter's effective range. Health Canada admits their equipment did not have the appropriate sensitivity because, when the GS filter was plugged in, the microsurge meter measured reductions in dirty electricity that their equipment failed to detect. 3. Health Canada states that the filters have no effect at low frequencies in reducing harmonics. They provide evidence of this up to the 7th harmonic or 420 Hz. No one ever claimed the GS filters worked at these low frequencies. They work for the frequency range of 4,000 to 100,000 Hz and 420 Hz is no within that range. This is a red herring meant to discredit the filters by stating they don't work but for a frequency range they were not intended for. This lower frequency has less energy and is less likely to be as biologically active as higher frequencies (Riley 1998). See Item 5 below. 4. Health Canada erroneously claims that low levels of dirty electricity have no biological effects, but they provide no documentation to support their claim. Studies show that people who have multiple sclerosis, type 1 and type 2 diabetics, chronic fatigue, tinnitus, and symptoms of electromagnetic hypersensitivity have benefited when the filters were used to clean up their home or work environment (Havas and Stetzer 2004). We have empirical evidence that these filters work both in the sense of reducing dirty electricity and improving health. Diabetics had lower fasting glucose levels and required less insulin. Our studies with diabetics were independently replicated in Japan with similar results. According to Health Canada an estimated two million Canadians have diabetes and the cost of diabetes in Canada is estimated to be up to $9 billion annually. If even a small percentage of these diabetics could benefit by cleaning up the dirty electricity in their home/work/school environment, the savings in health care could be considerable. Multiple sclerosis patients had reduced tremors and some were able to walk unassisted within a few days to weeks after filters were installed in their homes. No other changes were made in their diet or medication during this period to account for these changes. We have video-documented evidence of these improvements. How does Health Canada explain this and what evidence do they have to the contrary to support the claims that dirty electricity is not biological active? According to the Multiple Sclerosis Society of Canada (2002) Canada has one of the highest rates of MS in the world. An estimated 50,000 Canadians have MS and 70% of people with MS are unable to work 5-10 years after they are diagnosed. A number of people with MS who have used the GS Filters were able to continue work or return to work after they reduced the dirty electricity in their home/work environment. Their improved quality of life, the reduced stress on family members, and their ability to remain productive members of society should be of enormous interest to Health Canada. 5. Health Canada claims that the GS filters produce dirty electricity at the low frequency range and that this dirty electricity may be harmful. How can they argue it both ways? At first they claim that the levels of dirty electricity are so low that they are not biologically active and then they claim that the filters produce low levels of dirty electricity that are harmful to health. Energy is related to frequency and the higher the frequency the greater the energy. Sixty kHz (60,000 Hz) has 1000 times more energy than 60 Hz. Also, frequencies above 1.7 kHz begin to penetrate the body (Riley 1998). Yet Health Canada claims that the lower frequencies, purportedly generated by the GS filters, have a greater biological effect with less energy and less penetrating power. This is GS Filters/Health Canada, Oct. 2006 mhavas@... page 4/5 contrary to logic. Dr. Don Hillman addresses this in greater detail in his letter to Health Canada sent earlier this year (2006). 6. Health Canada claims that the filters would increase our demand for electricity requiring more transmission facilities. The electricity provider will have additional transmission losses due to the continuous nature of this load in their distribution lines and transformers. However, if manufacturers of electronic equipment properly filtered their equipment and if the utility distributed clean electricity these filters would not be necessary. Poor Power Quality Dirty electricity is a serious utility concern. It costs industry in the United States between 4 and 6 billion dollars each year for dirty power (Fortune, June 5, 1999) and this does not include the health costs. Industry has long recognized this and they use large capacitors (filters) because they require clean electricity for proper functioning of their equipment. Power surges are costly if they stop production and damage equipment. Surge suppressors are used in homes and offices to protect computers and other sensitive equipment for the same reason. The IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers) has long recognized the problems associated with spurious radio frequencies (RF) and the electric utilities have filters to mitigate this problem, although they tend not to use them as often as they should (see Ontario Hydro's own document, Power Quality Reference Guide (1998). According to the IEEE 519-1992, “Since most electronic equipment is located at a low voltage level of is associated power distribution system, it is frequently exposed to the effects of voltage notching. Voltage notches frequently introduce frequencies, both harmonic and nonharmonic, that are much higher than normally exhibited in 5 kV and higher voltage distribution systems. These frequencies can be in the radio frequency (RF) range, and as such, can introduce harmful effects associated with spurious RF (page 39).†Poor power quality is a serious problem and both industry and the utilities have filters to improve power quality. Now a filter that plugs into an outlet and doesn't require an electrician has been designed for the home. The GS filter is a smaller version of the capacitors used by industry. The GS filter protects equipment from power surges and research shows that it helps people who are sensitive to this form of energy (Havas and Stetzer 2004). Surely the novel information here is not that a filter can reduce dirty electricity but that dirty electricity affects health. Isn't this what Health Canada should be testing? Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity People, who are genuinely suffering from what they describe as electrical hypersensitivity (EHS)3, contact me from all over North America. We have been able to help a few of those individuals who have participated in studies. Countless others have also benefited from the filters. They can't all be wrong. I encourage Health Canada to test the health claims we make in our studies because that is what is of primary importance. 3 The World Health Organization (2004) describes electromagnetic hypersensitivity (EHS) as: “ . . . a phenomenon where individuals experience adverse health effects while using or being in the vicinity of devices emanating electric, magnetic, or electromagnetic fields (EMFs). Whatever its cause, EHS is a real and sometimes a debilitating problem for the affected persons . . . “ GS Filters/Health Canada, Oct. 2006 mhavas@... page 5/5 Estimates show that 3% of the population has electrical hypersensitivity (EHS) and that an addition 35% have symptoms of EHS (Philips and Philips 2006). That range accounts for between 980,000 and 11 million Canadians who may be adversely affected by electromagnetic pollution in its various forms. So this is potentially a very serious health concern in Canada. Dirty electricity is ubiquitous and getting worse because of the electronic equipment we use and because of the inadequacy of some of our power lines. Eventually the utility will have to deal with this pollutant and we hope it will be sooner rather than later so that fewer lives will be destroyed because of the insensitivity of the industry and their failure to adhere to their own guidelines. Health Canada should take a more proactive role in dealing with electromagnetic pollution and electrical hypersensitivity by informing doctors about the symptoms of EHS, testing the products that claim to work, establishing monitoring programs for electromagnetic pollution in schools and elsewhere, and providing Canadians with solutions through legislation to ensure that our environment is as clean, safe, and healthy as possible. An offer to demonstrate how the filters work Dave Stetzer, one of the co-inventors of the GS filter, would be willing to demonstrate to Health Canada how the filters work using the appropriate equipment. He makes this offer because it is important for Health Canada to be aware of the seriousness of this problem and to understand how the filters work, especially if they later decide to do some studies with human subjects. I look foreword to a favorable response to Dave Stetzer's offer because I assume that we are interested in the same thing--the health of Canadians. References IEEE 1992. IEEE Recommended Practices and Requirements for Harmonic Control in Electrical Power Systems. Sponsors: Transmission and distribution committee of the IEEE Power Engineering Society and Static Power Converter Committee of the IEE Industry Applications Society; Approved June 18, 1992 IEEE Standards Board; Approved January 4, 1993 American National Standards Institute. Gajda, G., A. Thansandote, E. Lemay, D. Lecuyer, W. Gorman, and J. McNamee. 2006. Report on Evaluation of Stetzer Filters Consumer and Clinical Radiation Protection Bureau, Health Canada. available at: www.bccdc.org/content.php?.item=62 Havas M and Stetzer D. 2004. Dirty Electricity and Electrical Hypersensitivity: Five Case Studies, World Health Organization Workshop on Electrical Hypersensitivity, 25-26 October, Prague, Czech Republic. Multiple Sclerosis Society of Canada. 2002. On The Path to a Cure: From Diagnosis to Chronic Disease Management Brief Submitted to the Commission on the Future of Health Care in Canada, March 2002, 7 pp http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca Ontario Hydro. 1998. Power Quality Reference Guide, 3rd Edition, Ontario Hydro. Philips A and Philips J. 2006. The Power Watch Handbook. Piatkus Books Ltd., London. 294 pp. Reilly, J.P. 1998. Applied Bioelectricity. Springer-Verlag, NY, 561 pp. Stahlkopf, Karl. 1999. Cost of Dirty Power. Fortune, June 5, 1999. ---------- On 1/30/07, Alasdair Philips < alasdair@...> wrote: That Health Canada (Gajda et al, 2006) Stezer Filter test report is appalling - I am surprised that Health Canada put their name to it. It is a very poor piece of work and the researchers didn't use appropriate testing equipment or methods of testing to actually test the Stetzer filter specifications. I would grade it a " fail " at final year undergraduate electronics project level. ---------------- On 1/30/07, K Byrne < kbyrne@...> wrote to a man who used the Health Canada study to put down Stetzer's work: I'm truly surprised how a man who claims to be an EMF expert can get things so wrong. The Stetzer filter is a capacitor, and any capacitor draws reactive current and does not increase one's electrical bills. The filter does not create higher frequencies either, it's designed to remove the higher frequencies between 4 kHz to 100 kHz - frequencies in the dangerous radio frequency (3 kHz or greater) range. This is confirmed in the Heath Canada report you noted in your email. I quote from the Health Canada report: " The Stetzer filter is probably effective in attenuating high frequency (4 kHz to 100kHz) noise on the AC power lines... " Furthermore, in this biased piece of work Health Canada actually measured the wrong frequency range, measuring only the less harmful 50 Hz to 5 kHz frequeicies, as opposed to the higher more dangerous 4 kHz to 100 kHz frequencies. An overlay totaling only 1% of the filters capability. They also measured the input to the filter not the actual output. They didn't measure the actual " result " of the filtration. As far as creating a strong magnetic fields this is also wrong. Yes a GS filter will produce a locally increased magnetic field that drops off quickly with distance, but they do not produce high frequency radiation. During your EMF workshop last year I let you borrow a Stetzer filter and meter and your wife conducted a demonstration that showed the magnetic field dropped to all the way zero only 10 inches from the filter. So, unless you're sitting on it I doubt it would be much of an issue. In your email you also state: " after we had mitigated in the entire house electromagnetic pollution levels to safe ones. " Can you tell me what levels of electromagnetic pollution is " safe? " Dr. Neil Cherry state the safe level to RF is " zero " . You state: " It is indeed cheaper and more health beneficial to simply solve the wiring errors. " How exactly are you going to remove noise from a circuit by correcting net current problems? Is there some secret wiring technique you would like to share with us? Perhaps you're implying arcing is causing all of this high frequency noise? This is not the case, it's caused primarily by electronic devices that transform AC current to low-voltage DC and by things like dimmer switches and devices that have variable speed motors. I suggest you speak with Dave Stetzer, you need to become better informed on this important topic. 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Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 On , Aline wrote " You recommended 20 filters but I understand that I need to put them near the meter box so not quite sure how to do that. " I'm sorry that I did not see your message till today, Aline. If you ever wish to, you are welcome to e-mail me directly. I don't have time to keep up with the list messages. 20 is the " average " number needed. Each house must be checked to see how many it actually needs. A few of the filters should be plugged in to both the A and the B line from your breaker box, as near the box as possible. The reason for this is to filter the electricity before it passes on through your house. This will minimize the paths that will be contaminated with high frequencies, such as your water pipes and phone lines. If pipes and phone lines come near the incoming main, or the A or B line before they can be filtered, the high frequencies will most likely be broadcast from the pipes/phone lines throughout the house. Some people have outlets installed on the A and B lines right by the breaker box, so they can filter right there. Regards, Shivani ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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