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> Are there many of you suffering from serious severe sensitivity to PC,

> cell phone, TV etc...able to only spend about 10 mins on the PC

> everyday?

Yes, I think many people subscribed to this group have the same

problem.

> Is it possible to recover? If so, what is the best strategy?

Yes, there have been a few reported cases of total recovery,

and more cases of major improvements. Mostly this seems to

involve avoidance as much as practical, combined with a " detox " ,

primarily a heavy metal detox. I've also had good results

with certain supplements and certain EMF protection devices,

but everyone differs in their response to these.

> Are there any manufactured PCs, cell phones, TVs, etc... with very low

> EMS emission?

I suppose that depends on what " low " means. Even low emission by

standard measure can have a big effect on people who are hypersensitive.

And different people have different sensitivities, so you'll have

to do some trial & error to find something that works well for you.

Marc

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Thanks for the response. Hum, it seems to be down to trial and

error, and perseverance.

Which are the supplements that you found helpful?

I am aware that we all have different response to supps, but, it

would be interesting what the general consensus is concerning the most

helpful supplements overall.

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> > Are there many of you suffering from serious severe sensitivity to PC,

> > cell phone, TV etc...able to only spend about 10 mins on the PC

> > everyday?

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> Yes, I think many people subscribed to this group have the same

> problem.

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> > Is it possible to recover? If so, what is the best strategy?

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> Yes, there have been a few reported cases of total recovery,

> and more cases of major improvements. Mostly this seems to

> involve avoidance as much as practical, combined with a " detox " ,

> primarily a heavy metal detox. I've also had good results

> with certain supplements and certain EMF protection devices,

> but everyone differs in their response to these.

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> > Are there any manufactured PCs, cell phones, TVs, etc... with very low

> > EMS emission?

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> I suppose that depends on what " low " means. Even low emission by

> standard measure can have a big effect on people who are hypersensitive.

> And different people have different sensitivities, so you'll have

> to do some trial & error to find something that works well for you.

>

> Marc

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Thanks for your response Marc. Recently, I have been trying some new supps and

found an increase in my level of ES/EMF. It fluctuates, but is definitely

stronger. I seem to be getting electric shock even when washing my hands from

water!! I will continue with this regimen and add a few more supps. I know

someone who also reports benefits from Lumina Cell foods. I will give this a

whirl.

My friend also mentioned that people who have been electrocuted or suffered from

being struck by lightening and survived, appear to very many similar symptoms to

mine concerning electrical shocks in the body and being severely affected by

weather, atmospheric pressures, rain, earth magneitic, heat, cold etc... Any of

us also suffer from this?

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> > Thanks for the response. Hum, it seems to be down to trial and

> > error, and perseverance.

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> Yes, pretty much, although hopefully suggestions here can prevent

> some time wasting effort.

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> > Which are the supplements that you found helpful?

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> For me, super-antioxidant supplements are helpful, like " H-Minus "

> from e3Live or " Amrit Ambrosia " from MAPI or " Cellfood " from

> Lumina Health. Also, essential fatty acids are good -- I use

> " Super EFF " from Standard Process and also Shikai Borage Oil

> skin lotion, but have also seen benefits from Evening Primrose

> oil. Mineral supplementation can be good too -- again, " Cellfood "

> for this, but also sometimes just magnesium ( " Natural Calm " is a

> good one). Also, things which help bind onto toxins and get

> them out of the system -- again, " H-Minus " does this, so

> does " NDF " , plus activated charcoal and apple pectin. Also,

> in my own specific case, adrenal ( " Desicated Adrenal " and

> " Drenatrophin PMG " from Standard Process) and thyroid support

> ( " Thyro-Zyme " from Apex Energetics), and I've recently been

> seeing some improvement from Liver support ( " Hepatrophin

> PMG " from Standard Process).

>

> But that's just me... everyone on this group is taking

> different stuff..

>

> Marc

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So is the gluthionine the cause of MCS and ES? What is the thing someone was

saying about people being sensitive with heavy metals. I have mercury toxicity

that we are working on getting out. I wonder if that's why I have been so

sensitive. I also have had my gallbladder removed. Does that have anything to

do with this or is just the liver?

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> > > error, and perseverance.

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> > For me, super-antioxidant supplements are helpful, like " H-Minus "

> > from e3Live or " Amrit Ambrosia " from MAPI or " Cellfood " from

> > Lumina Health. Also, essential fatty acids are good -- I use

> > " Super EFF " from Standard Process and also Shikai Borage Oil

> > skin lotion, but have also seen benefits from Evening Primrose

> > oil. Mineral supplementation can be good too -- again, " Cellfood "

> > for this, but also sometimes just magnesium ( " Natural Calm " is a

> > good one). Also, things which help bind onto toxins and get

> > them out of the system -- again, " H-Minus " does this, so

> > does " NDF " , plus activated charcoal and apple pectin. Also,

> > in my own specific case, adrenal ( " Desicated Adrenal " and

> > " Drenatrophin PMG " from Standard Process) and thyroid support

> > ( " Thyro-Zyme " from Apex Energetics), and I've recently been

> > seeing some improvement from Liver support ( " Hepatrophin

> > PMG " from Standard Process).

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> > But that's just me... everyone on this group is taking

> > different stuff..

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Hi Diane

It is not revving up toxins in the body that is causing reaction to vits and

supps. This means, that at times, even a tiny crumb from Vit C for instance can

bring on a rash or mucous swelling, or other reactions. Some I know may display

other types of reactions as an increase in their CNS symptoms, even, if taking

very little of the compound. Same happens with many foods, and it could be any

particular compound in veggies and fruits causing same symptoms. So, it is

definitely not related to detoxifying, not in this case anyway. To date, I have

not found any lead on as to why this is happening....

Kooky

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> > > > error, and perseverance.

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> > > Yes, pretty much, although hopefully suggestions here can prevent

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> > > > Which are the supplements that you found helpful?

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> > > For me, super-antioxidant supplements are helpful, like " H-Minus "

> > > from e3Live or " Amrit Ambrosia " from MAPI or " Cellfood " from

> > > Lumina Health. Also, essential fatty acids are good -- I use

> > > " Super EFF " from Standard Process and also Shikai Borage Oil

> > > skin lotion, but have also seen benefits from Evening Primrose

> > > oil. Mineral supplementation can be good too -- again, " Cellfood "

> > > for this, but also sometimes just magnesium ( " Natural Calm " is a

> > > good one). Also, things which help bind onto toxins and get

> > > them out of the system -- again, " H-Minus " does this, so

> > > does " NDF " , plus activated charcoal and apple pectin. Also,

> > > in my own specific case, adrenal ( " Desicated Adrenal " and

> > > " Drenatrophin PMG " from Standard Process) and thyroid support

> > > ( " Thyro-Zyme " from Apex Energetics), and I've recently been

> > > seeing some improvement from Liver support ( " Hepatrophin

> > > PMG " from Standard Process).

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Thanks for the info. I am hoping once I get the mercury out, I will get better.

I am doing better with my energy sensitivity since we got our EMF protector. My

doctor has me on a lot of nutritional support right now for thyroid, adrenal,

liver, digestive, plus I'm detoxing. I am starting to feel better. Thank you

all for your advice. This is a scary condition.

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> > > > error, and perseverance.

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> > > Yes, pretty much, although hopefully suggestions here can prevent

> > > some time wasting effort.

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> > > > Which are the supplements that you found helpful?

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> > > For me, super-antioxidant supplements are helpful, like " H-Minus "

> > > from e3Live or " Amrit Ambrosia " from MAPI or " Cellfood " from

> > > Lumina Health. Also, essential fatty acids are good -- I use

> > > " Super EFF " from Standard Process and also Shikai Borage Oil

> > > skin lotion, but have also seen benefits from Evening Primrose

> > > oil. Mineral supplementation can be good too -- again, " Cellfood "

> > > for this, but also sometimes just magnesium ( " Natural Calm " is a

> > > good one). Also, things which help bind onto toxins and get

> > > them out of the system -- again, " H-Minus " does this, so

> > > does " NDF " , plus activated charcoal and apple pectin. Also,

> > > in my own specific case, adrenal ( " Desicated Adrenal " and

> > > " Drenatrophin PMG " from Standard Process) and thyroid support

> > > ( " Thyro-Zyme " from Apex Energetics), and I've recently been

> > > seeing some improvement from Liver support ( " Hepatrophin

> > > PMG " from Standard Process).

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> > > But that's just me... everyone on this group is taking

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Thanks Evie. I am doing a program called nutrienergetic systems. It works

wonderful for getting any toxin out, mold, heavy metals, chemicals, emf's etc.

I had a number of heavy metals in me. I have gotten rid of the lead and cadmium

and I believe now the only one left is the mercury. This last time the doctor

did put me on some organ support because I have been having trouble especially

with the emf's. It has helped me plus the emf protector that I've put in . . .

thank God for that. You're right detoxing is hard work and scary. I just need

to have the right frame of mind. We'll see about the mercury. Hopefully it

will come out too.

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> > > > > Thanks for the response. Hum, it seems to be down to trial and

> > > > > error, and perseverance.

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> > > > Yes, pretty much, although hopefully suggestions here can prevent

> > > > some time wasting effort.

> > > >

> > > > > Which are the supplements that you found helpful?

> > > >

> > > > For me, super-antioxidant supplements are helpful, like " H-Minus "

> > > > from e3Live or " Amrit Ambrosia " from MAPI or " Cellfood " from

> > > > Lumina Health. Also, essential fatty acids are good -- I use

> > > > " Super EFF " from Standard Process and also Shikai Borage Oil

> > > > skin lotion, but have also seen benefits from Evening Primrose

> > > > oil. Mineral supplementation can be good too -- again, " Cellfood "

> > > > for this, but also sometimes just magnesium ( " Natural Calm " is a

> > > > good one). Also, things which help bind onto toxins and get

> > > > them out of the system -- again, " H-Minus " does this, so

> > > > does " NDF " , plus activated charcoal and apple pectin. Also,

> > > > in my own specific case, adrenal ( " Desicated Adrenal " and

> > > > " Drenatrophin PMG " from Standard Process) and thyroid support

> > > > ( " Thyro-Zyme " from Apex Energetics), and I've recently been

> > > > seeing some improvement from Liver support ( " Hepatrophin

> > > > PMG " from Standard Process).

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> > > > But that's just me... everyone on this group is taking

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> > Thanks for the response. Hum, it seems to be down to trial and

> > error, and perseverance.

>

> Yes, pretty much, although hopefully suggestions here can prevent

> some time wasting effort.

>

> > Which are the supplements that you found helpful?

>

> For me, super-antioxidant supplements are helpful, like " H-Minus "

> from e3Live or " Amrit Ambrosia " from MAPI or " Cellfood " from

> Lumina Health. Also, essential fatty acids are good -- I use

> " Super EFF " from Standard Process and also Shikai Borage Oil

> skin lotion, but have also seen benefits from Evening Primrose

> oil. Mineral supplementation can be good too -- again, " Cellfood "

> for this, but also sometimes just magnesium ( " Natural Calm " is a

> good one). Also, things which help bind onto toxins and get

> them out of the system -- again, " H-Minus " does this, so

> does " NDF " , plus activated charcoal and apple pectin. Also,

> in my own specific case, adrenal ( " Desicated Adrenal " and

> " Drenatrophin PMG " from Standard Process) and thyroid support

> ( " Thyro-Zyme " from Apex Energetics), and I've recently been

> seeing some improvement from Liver support ( " Hepatrophin

> PMG " from Standard Process).

>

Hi Marc,

could you report the 'active ingredients' for the above commercial products:

it'll be good also other ES in other Wordl regions ...

Thanks

Giorgio

> But that's just me... everyone on this group is taking

> different stuff..

>

> Marc

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