Re: updates of my emf situation

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updates of my emf situation

> Hi, I post from France from time to time. Here's the latest news

>

> I put an aluminium shield in the direction of a DECT signal (around

> 20 uW/m2) and for a while it got better, the signal was reduced to 2

> uW/m2 in the area shielded by the aluminium. But it is not enough.

> now I still feel heavily irradiated at night, I need one liter of

> coffee to go on in the morning. There must be frequencies not picked

> up with my emf meter. I imagine it can be many things, the antennas

> on the roof (I'm on the last floor), the metal barriers they

> installed all over the roof not long ago and picking the phone mast

> emissions a 100 meter away, or wifi or DECT reflections. Or I'm just

> being targeted by the state.

>

> jean.

>

March 1, 2006

Thanks , as usual it is very interesting. I'm gonna think

about it seriously. The grounded paint. (have to install a cable

for the ground coming from 6 meters away, find the paint, etc). It's

pretty neat if it doesn't reflect the other signal from the opposite

direction.

The paint might be cheaper than the 60 euros per square meter rolls.

jean.

>

> Hello

>

> I am not so enthousiastic about aluminium.

> It has other nasty properties, although it can shield.

>

> I have had once a neighbour with a DECT phone above me in an

appartment

> building.

> I placed a few squere meters of aluminium foil against the ceiling.

> It was a very peculiar experience.

> It looked, like the radiation was shielded only on the surface of

the foil,

> but at the borders it came down very heavy.

> I then placed the foil against the complete ceiling.

> Even that was not enough.

> In the corners, between ceiling and vertical wall, I had to place

some

> material also.

> (And I had grounded te foil also)

>

> You should try those *safety blankets* one can buy in camping shops.

> Small package of 10x15 cm, and unfolded it makes 2.20x1.60 m, for

about 3-4

> Euro a piece.

> It is a polyester film, with on both sides a metal coating, silver

and gold

> looking.

>

> But here also, there is a disadvantage, because you may have

reflections

> from the other side.

> The best way for shielding is using a special grounded black paint

(HSF53 or

> alike) because they absorb more.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> checked by Norton Antivirus

>

> updates of my emf situation

>

> > Hi, I post from France from time to time. Here's the latest

news

> >

> > I put an aluminium shield in the direction of a DECT signal

(around

> > 20 uW/m2) and for a while it got better, the signal was reduced

to 2

> > uW/m2 in the area shielded by the aluminium. But it is not

enough.

> > now I still feel heavily irradiated at night, I need one liter of

> > coffee to go on in the morning. There must be frequencies not

picked

> > up with my emf meter. I imagine it can be many things, the

antennas

> > on the roof (I'm on the last floor), the metal barriers they

> > installed all over the roof not long ago and picking the phone

mast

> > emissions a 100 meter away, or wifi or DECT reflections. Or I'm

just

> > being targeted by the state.

> >

> > jean.

> >

March 1, 2006

Hello

the paint costs about 20 Euro per m2.

Look at: www.priggen.com

under Online Webshop, Abschirmung and Abschirmmaterial.

HSF53P or 362

And a grounding set.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

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updates of my emf situation

>>

>> > Hi, I post from France from time to time. Here's the latest

> news

>> >

>> > I put an aluminium shield in the direction of a DECT signal

> (around

>> > 20 uW/m2) and for a while it got better, the signal was reduced

> to 2

>> > uW/m2 in the area shielded by the aluminium. But it is not

> enough.

>> > now I still feel heavily irradiated at night, I need one liter of

>> > coffee to go on in the morning. There must be frequencies not

> picked

>> > up with my emf meter. I imagine it can be many things, the

> antennas

>> > on the roof (I'm on the last floor), the metal barriers they

>> > installed all over the roof not long ago and picking the phone

> mast

>> > emissions a 100 meter away, or wifi or DECT reflections. Or I'm

> just

>> > being targeted by the state.

>> >

>> > jean.

>> >

March 1, 2006

Sure Emil,

but I understood, that is in France.

And then Germany is closer.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

checked by Norton Antivirus

updates of my emf situation

>> >

>> > > Hi, I post from France from time to time. Here's the latest

>> news

>> > >

>> > > I put an aluminium shield in the direction of a DECT signal

>> (around

>> > > 20 uW/m2) and for a while it got better, the signal was reduced

>> to 2

>> > > uW/m2 in the area shielded by the aluminium. But it is not

>> enough.

>> > > now I still feel heavily irradiated at night, I need one liter of

>> > > coffee to go on in the morning. There must be frequencies not

>> picked

>> > > up with my emf meter. I imagine it can be many things, the

>> antennas

>> > > on the roof (I'm on the last floor), the metal barriers they

>> > > installed all over the roof not long ago and picking the phone

>> mast

>> > > emissions a 100 meter away, or wifi or DECT reflections. Or I'm

>> just

>> > > being targeted by the state.

>> > >

>> > > jean.

>> > >

March 1, 2006

Hello , long time no speak, hope you are doing well,

and you Jean.

I was wondering what you were referring to with alfoil versus

carbon black paint or an insulation blanket.

Alfoil should have higher shielding rate, but also higher reflection,

and your measurements may indicate a layer of it acting as a

lens perhaps, attracting fields and increasing them at the edges.

You mention absorption of the paint.

Is it the case that the combination of absorption, lower reflection,

and lower overall effect on E fields by the paint delivers a lower E

field dose

measured on your meters about two meters from the shielded wall? Or am

I missing something on the absorption comment?

Alternatively, maybe with highly shielding aluminium or anything,

there is a capacitance between the shielded wall and the person's

body, that annoys an electrosensitive. I saw a comment somewhere that

capacitance between two shielded walls could be very annoying. Maybe

your paints give some shielding without such capacitance.

Additionally the no rust on the paint is great.

Many thanks,

Rowan C.

>

> Hello

>

> I am not so enthousiastic about aluminium.

> It has other nasty properties, although it can shield.

>

> I have had once a neighbour with a DECT phone above me in an

appartment

> building.

> I placed a few squere meters of aluminium foil against the ceiling.

> It was a very peculiar experience.

> It looked, like the radiation was shielded only on the surface of

the foil,

> but at the borders it came down very heavy.

> I then placed the foil against the complete ceiling.

> Even that was not enough.

> In the corners, between ceiling and vertical wall, I had to place

some

> material also.

> (And I had grounded te foil also)

>

> You should try those *safety blankets* one can buy in camping shops.

> Small package of 10x15 cm, and unfolded it makes 2.20x1.60 m, for

about 3-4

> Euro a piece.

> It is a polyester film, with on both sides a metal coating, silver

and gold

> looking.

>

> But here also, there is a disadvantage, because you may have

reflections

> from the other side.

> The best way for shielding is using a special grounded black paint

(HSF53 or

> alike) because they absorb more.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> checked by Norton Antivirus

>

> updates of my emf situation

>

> > Hi, I post from France from time to time. Here's the latest news

> >

> > I put an aluminium shield in the direction of a DECT signal

(around

> > 20 uW/m2) and for a while it got better, the signal was reduced to

2

> > uW/m2 in the area shielded by the aluminium. But it is not

enough.

> > now I still feel heavily irradiated at night, I need one liter of

> > coffee to go on in the morning. There must be frequencies not

picked

> > up with my emf meter. I imagine it can be many things, the

antennas

> > on the roof (I'm on the last floor), the metal barriers they

> > installed all over the roof not long ago and picking the phone

mast

> > emissions a 100 meter away, or wifi or DECT reflections. Or I'm

just

> > being targeted by the state.

> >

> > jean.

> >

March 1, 2006

Hello Rowan,

aluminium has a special cristaline form, which stops neutrons (which we

need, as cosmic radiation).

Furthermore it may shield substantially and reflects alot, but at the end of

the shielding, RF radiation seems to follow strange ways,

where as longitudinal waves follow other paths (not provable of course) but

feelable by electrosensibles.

While it keeps some RF radiation from outside at bay, the inside present

radiation will be reflected enormously.

And people who have used aluminium as shielding feel uncomfortable after a

while.

Those effects do not occur so strong with f.i. those *safety blankets* (as I

call them the *poor mans* shielding).

And the paints are more absorbing, and transforming into (very lowlevel)

heat, and the reflection is much less.

And they do not reflect into your face.

Be aware, that those paints are electro conductive, so a grounding system

must be used.

There are several systems (from tapes to plaques) available.

The paint suppliers do have them.

With orgone *things*, aluminium is also always avoided.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

checked by Norton Antivirus

Re: updates of my emf situation

> Hello , long time no speak, hope you are doing well,

> and you Jean.

>

> I was wondering what you were referring to with alfoil versus

> carbon black paint or an insulation blanket.

>

> Alfoil should have higher shielding rate, but also higher reflection,

> and your measurements may indicate a layer of it acting as a

> lens perhaps, attracting fields and increasing them at the edges.

>

> You mention absorption of the paint.

>

> Is it the case that the combination of absorption, lower reflection,

> and lower overall effect on E fields by the paint delivers a lower E

> field dose

> measured on your meters about two meters from the shielded wall? Or am

> I missing something on the absorption comment?

>

> Alternatively, maybe with highly shielding aluminium or anything,

> there is a capacitance between the shielded wall and the person's

> body, that annoys an electrosensitive. I saw a comment somewhere that

> capacitance between two shielded walls could be very annoying. Maybe

> your paints give some shielding without such capacitance.

>

> Additionally the no rust on the paint is great.

>

> Many thanks,

> Rowan C.

>

March 1, 2006

How about laying down a bunch of Velostat or PLASTIC SHIELDING FILM in

the attic? Any one try that yet?

I am thinking about it.

On Mar 1, 2006, at 10:28 AM, charles wrote:

> Hello Rowan,

>

> aluminium has a special cristaline form, which stops neutrons (which we

> need, as cosmic radiation).

> Furthermore it may shield substantially and reflects alot, but at the

> end of

> the shielding, RF radiation seems to follow strange ways,

> where as longitudinal waves follow other paths (not provable of

> course) but

> feelable by electrosensibles.

> While it keeps some RF radiation from outside at bay, the inside

> present

> radiation will be reflected enormously.

> And people who have used aluminium as shielding feel uncomfortable

> after a

> while.

>

> Those effects do not occur so strong with f.i. those *safety blankets*

> (as I

> call them the *poor mans* shielding).

>

> And the paints are more absorbing, and transforming into (very

> lowlevel)

> heat, and the reflection is much less.

> And they do not reflect into your face.

> Be aware, that those paints are electro conductive, so a grounding

> system

> must be used.

> There are several systems (from tapes to plaques) available.

> The paint suppliers do have them.

>

> With orgone *things*, aluminium is also always avoided.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> checked by Norton Antivirus

>

> Re: updates of my emf situation

>

>> Hello , long time no speak, hope you are doing well,

>> and you Jean.

>>

>> I was wondering what you were referring to with alfoil versus

>> carbon black paint or an insulation blanket.

>>

>> Alfoil should have higher shielding rate, but also higher reflection,

>> and your measurements may indicate a layer of it acting as a

>> lens perhaps, attracting fields and increasing them at the edges.

>>

>> You mention absorption of the paint.

>>

>> Is it the case that the combination of absorption, lower reflection,

>> and lower overall effect on E fields by the paint delivers a lower E

>> field dose

>> measured on your meters about two meters from the shielded wall? Or am

>> I missing something on the absorption comment?

>>

>> Alternatively, maybe with highly shielding aluminium or anything,

>> there is a capacitance between the shielded wall and the person's

>> body, that annoys an electrosensitive. I saw a comment somewhere that

>> capacitance between two shielded walls could be very annoying. Maybe

>> your paints give some shielding without such capacitance.

>>

>> Additionally the no rust on the paint is great.

>>

>> Many thanks,

>> Rowan C.

>>

>

March 1, 2006

What is the purpose of *laying down a bunch of Velostat films* ?

Is some RF radiation coming from the floor ?

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

checked by Norton Antivirus

Re: updates of my emf situation

>>

>>> Hello , long time no speak, hope you are doing well,

>>> and you Jean.

>>>

>>> I was wondering what you were referring to with alfoil versus

>>> carbon black paint or an insulation blanket.

>>>

>>> Alfoil should have higher shielding rate, but also higher reflection,

>>> and your measurements may indicate a layer of it acting as a

>>> lens perhaps, attracting fields and increasing them at the edges.

>>>

>>> You mention absorption of the paint.

>>>

>>> Is it the case that the combination of absorption, lower reflection,

>>> and lower overall effect on E fields by the paint delivers a lower E

>>> field dose

>>> measured on your meters about two meters from the shielded wall? Or am

>>> I missing something on the absorption comment?

>>>

>>> Alternatively, maybe with highly shielding aluminium or anything,

>>> there is a capacitance between the shielded wall and the person's

>>> body, that annoys an electrosensitive. I saw a comment somewhere that

>>> capacitance between two shielded walls could be very annoying. Maybe

>>> your paints give some shielding without such capacitance.

>>>

>>> Additionally the no rust on the paint is great.

>>>

>>> Many thanks,

>>> Rowan C.

>>>

>>

March 1, 2006

I meant in the attic for the stuff coming through the ceiling. I am

doing the windows and have a brick house. I wondered if doing the attic

with shielding would help.

On Mar 1, 2006, at 3:17 PM, charles wrote:

> What is the purpose of *laying down a bunch of Velostat films* ?

>

> Is some RF radiation coming from the floor ?

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> checked by Norton Antivirus

>

> Re: updates of my emf situation

>>>

>>>> Hello , long time no speak, hope you are doing well,

>>>> and you Jean.

>>>>

>>>> I was wondering what you were referring to with alfoil versus

>>>> carbon black paint or an insulation blanket.

>>>>

>>>> Alfoil should have higher shielding rate, but also higher

>>>> reflection,

>>>> and your measurements may indicate a layer of it acting as a

>>>> lens perhaps, attracting fields and increasing them at the edges.

>>>>

>>>> You mention absorption of the paint.

>>>>

>>>> Is it the case that the combination of absorption, lower reflection,

>>>> and lower overall effect on E fields by the paint delivers a lower E

>>>> field dose

>>>> measured on your meters about two meters from the shielded wall? Or

>>>> am

>>>> I missing something on the absorption comment?

>>>>

>>>> Alternatively, maybe with highly shielding aluminium or anything,

>>>> there is a capacitance between the shielded wall and the person's

>>>> body, that annoys an electrosensitive. I saw a comment somewhere

>>>> that

>>>> capacitance between two shielded walls could be very annoying. Maybe

>>>> your paints give some shielding without such capacitance.

>>>>

>>>> Additionally the no rust on the paint is great.

>>>>

>>>> Many thanks,

>>>> Rowan C.

>>>>

>>>

March 2, 2006

Hello ,

of course that will do.

But only when radiation is coming from above.

When you have a transmittor on your roof..

Normally the RF radiation is coming slightly horizontally, and is it not

necessary for shielding horizontally.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie