Re: liver detox and parasites

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,

Hulda s formula is basically what I've used. Nothing to eat after noon.

One tablespoon of epsom salts in a glass of water at 6pm, 8pm, then a cup of

fresh squeezed pulpless grapefruit juice mixed with one cup of olive oil at

10pm. Lie down on your back immediately with a pillow under your head & go to

sleep. When you first wake up in the morning another glass of epsom salts, & a

last one 2 hours later. Then crap out everything in you.

It's my understanding that gall stones are liver stones that have fallen down

into the gall bladder. They're both produced in the liver I believe. The flushes

take gall stones out at the same time. I've done, I think 6 now. The 1st

didn't produce much but what they refer to as chaff & some small straw or light

brown colored ones. The next 5 produced a tremendous number of stones,

practically all dark green, many as big as a .45 caliber bullet. There were

about a half dozen that were as big around as a quarter. No wonder I was so

plugged up.

After each time I'd do one of these flushes, there was hell to pay though.

When things were opened up by removal of these stones terrible things began

coming out. I practically went nuts a couple of times & passed out once. Some

people probably would have killed themselves. I'm serious, it was that bad

sometimes but after a about a week I'd recover & after about 3 weeks later

somehow muster the willpower to do another one. If I had it to do again, I'd do

it simultaneously with the IV chelations. Because the last couple I've done have

been right before a chelation & were much easier on me.

M.

Re: Current Circumstances, Sun sensitivity, IV

> chelation, NAET desensitization

>

>

>

>

> Glenn,

> You have been doing some great work on research and recovery. I

> have

> pretty severe MCS and EMS brought on by a pesticide exposure. I

> actually did some detox through physician directed colonics. Please

> don't everyone freak out on me. I get way negative reactions in

> general when I mention colonics in the MCS community. I'm not

> espousing this for treatment. I did get some positive results when

> nothing else worked. I'm just sharing my experience. And I have had a

> history of bowel problems from years of antibiotic use.

>

> I had a bad reaction to dmsa treatment after the sixth week but it

> greatly reduced my mecury and lead levels. Again only my experience.

> I

> was interested in finding out about your niacin regimen. What kinds

> and dosages are you using. Is it physician directed? Is it time

> release, no flush? Is it chelated? What brands are you using?

>

> Overall I've made enough of a recovery to work part time. But I have

> to be very careful. And my health and energy are way up and down. And

> I know that I am one exposure away from going downhill fast again.

>

> Thanks, Alan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I am reading your posts with particular interest. If you wouldn't

mind elaborating (off list, if you prefer) I am very curious about

what you mean by " terrible things " and the " hell to pay " aspect of

your detox. My husband and I have had some very bizarre experiences

in the last few months, related to his ES and scalar energy treatment

and -- believe it or not -- the possibility of parasites and how

these seem to be affected by the energy treatment... None of it has

made a lot of sense to us up to now.

I think your experience, if you choose to share more, might be a

hugely important piece of this puzzle. As well as helping to prepare

us for the consequences should we decide to move forward with the

detox, of course.

Thank you very much again.

Cara

> After each time I'd do one of these flushes, there was hell to

pay though. When things were opened up by removal of these stones

terrible things began coming out. I practically went nuts a couple of

times & passed out once. Some people probably would have killed

themselves. I'm serious, it was that bad sometimes but after a about

a week I'd recover & after about 3 weeks later somehow muster the

willpower to do another one. If I had it to do again, I'd do it

simultaneously with the IV chelations. Because the last couple I've

done have been right before a chelation & were much easier on me.

>

> M.

[Guest guest]

Great work . I am familiar with that recipe and have done a similar

one 3 times. I am glad that you are familiar with Hulda's information.

I look forward to hearing about your progress and recovery.

On Dec 30, 2004, at 12:14 AM, john wrote:

>

> ,

> Hulda s formula is basically what I've used. Nothing to eat

> after noon. One tablespoon of epsom salts in a glass of water at 6pm,

> 8pm, then a cup of fresh squeezed pulpless grapefruit juice mixed with

> one cup of olive oil at 10pm. Lie down on your back immediately with a

> pillow under your head & go to sleep. When you first wake up in the

> morning another glass of epsom salts, & a last one 2 hours later. Then

> crap out everything in you.

> It's my understanding that gall stones are liver stones that have

> fallen down into the gall bladder. They're both produced in the liver

> I believe. The flushes take gall stones out at the same time. I've

> done, I think 6 now. The 1st didn't produce much but what they refer

> to as chaff & some small straw or light brown colored ones. The next 5

> produced a tremendous number of stones, practically all dark green,

> many as big as a .45 caliber bullet. There were about a half dozen

> that were as big around as a quarter. No wonder I was so plugged up.

> After each time I'd do one of these flushes, there was hell to pay

> though. When things were opened up by removal of these stones terrible

> things began coming out. I practically went nuts a couple of times &

> passed out once. Some people probably would have killed themselves.

> I'm serious, it was that bad sometimes but after a about a week I'd

> recover & after about 3 weeks later somehow muster the willpower to do

> another one. If I had it to do again, I'd do it simultaneously with

> the IV chelations. Because the last couple I've done have been right

> before a chelation & were much easier on me.

>

> M.

> Re: Current Circumstances, Sun sensitivity, IV

>> chelation, NAET desensitization

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Glenn,

>> You have been doing some great work on research and recovery. I

>> have

>> pretty severe MCS and EMS brought on by a pesticide exposure. I

>> actually did some detox through physician directed colonics. Please

>> don't everyone freak out on me. I get way negative reactions in

>> general when I mention colonics in the MCS community. I'm not

>> espousing this for treatment. I did get some positive results when

>> nothing else worked. I'm just sharing my experience. And I have had

>> a

>> history of bowel problems from years of antibiotic use.

>>

>> I had a bad reaction to dmsa treatment after the sixth week but it

>> greatly reduced my mecury and lead levels. Again only my experience.

>> I

>> was interested in finding out about your niacin regimen. What kinds

>> and dosages are you using. Is it physician directed? Is it time

>> release, no flush? Is it chelated? What brands are you using?

>>

>> Overall I've made enough of a recovery to work part time. But I have

>> to be very careful. And my health and energy are way up and down.

>> And

>> I know that I am one exposure away from going downhill fast again.

>>

>> Thanks, Alan

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Does everyone naturally have gall stones? How does one know if it is a

problem?

Glenn

>From: McAfee <amcafeerr@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: liver detox and parasites

>Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:52:40 -0500

>

>Great work . I am familiar with that recipe and have done a similar

>one 3 times. I am glad that you are familiar with Hulda's information.

>I look forward to hearing about your progress and recovery.

>

>On Dec 30, 2004, at 12:14 AM, john wrote:

>

> >

> > ,

> > Hulda s formula is basically what I've used. Nothing to eat

> > after noon. One tablespoon of epsom salts in a glass of water at 6pm,

> > 8pm, then a cup of fresh squeezed pulpless grapefruit juice mixed with

> > one cup of olive oil at 10pm. Lie down on your back immediately with a

> > pillow under your head & go to sleep. When you first wake up in the

> > morning another glass of epsom salts, & a last one 2 hours later. Then

> > crap out everything in you.

> > It's my understanding that gall stones are liver stones that have

> > fallen down into the gall bladder. They're both produced in the liver

> > I believe. The flushes take gall stones out at the same time. I've

> > done, I think 6 now. The 1st didn't produce much but what they refer

> > to as chaff & some small straw or light brown colored ones. The next 5

> > produced a tremendous number of stones, practically all dark green,

> > many as big as a .45 caliber bullet. There were about a half dozen

> > that were as big around as a quarter. No wonder I was so plugged up.

> > After each time I'd do one of these flushes, there was hell to pay

> > though. When things were opened up by removal of these stones terrible

> > things began coming out. I practically went nuts a couple of times &

> > passed out once. Some people probably would have killed themselves.

> > I'm serious, it was that bad sometimes but after a about a week I'd

> > recover & after about 3 weeks later somehow muster the willpower to do

> > another one. If I had it to do again, I'd do it simultaneously with

> > the IV chelations. Because the last couple I've done have been right

> > before a chelation & were much easier on me.

> >

> > M.

> > Re: Current Circumstances, Sun sensitivity, IV

> >> chelation, NAET desensitization

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Glenn,

> >> You have been doing some great work on research and recovery. I

> >> have

> >> pretty severe MCS and EMS brought on by a pesticide exposure. I

> >> actually did some detox through physician directed colonics. Please

> >> don't everyone freak out on me. I get way negative reactions in

> >> general when I mention colonics in the MCS community. I'm not

> >> espousing this for treatment. I did get some positive results when

> >> nothing else worked. I'm just sharing my experience. And I have had

> >> a

> >> history of bowel problems from years of antibiotic use.

> >>

> >> I had a bad reaction to dmsa treatment after the sixth week but it

> >> greatly reduced my mecury and lead levels. Again only my experience.

> >> I

> >> was interested in finding out about your niacin regimen. What kinds

> >> and dosages are you using. Is it physician directed? Is it time

> >> release, no flush? Is it chelated? What brands are you using?

> >>

> >> Overall I've made enough of a recovery to work part time. But I have

> >> to be very careful. And my health and energy are way up and down.

> >> And

> >> I know that I am one exposure away from going downhill fast again.

> >>

> >> Thanks, Alan

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Glenn wrote:

> Does everyone naturally have gall stones? How does one know if it is a

> problem?

I suppose Hulda would say that if you have allergies or

chemical sensitivies, then you have gallstones.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hello Again,

I'll have to agree with you about some of what Hulda proposes is

pretty far-fetched.. I hadn't heard anything about bleach causing aids. And

I think you're right about, I thought it was liver flukes instead of bots.

There are a number of web sites concerning liver flushes though. I think

there might even be a group about it. It's kind of funny really. There are

all these pictures that people have sent in that have done liver flushes.

They send in pictures of the biggest stones they,ve picked out of their poop

& photographed them like they were really something to brag about. A lot of

them have a ruler in the picture so you can see how big they really were.

I'll see if I can find the place on the internet where this is again & tell

you.

As I said, I did get very large numbers of these stones. In fact it's

hard to believe that my liver was able to hold them all. They float on top

of the water after you've pooped everything else out.. The biggest ones are

usually the last ones you poop out.

All this is really bizaare when you think about it but desparate people

will do desperate things when they aren't being helped by the ones who are

supposed to.

So you just have to sort through everything to try & find what works. Like

Glenn said, you just have to decide what's right for you.

I think what's important about this group is that people can give each

other leads of what they've tried or heard of so people can do their own

research like you're doing to find out if this is total quackery, sombody's

just making it up, fabricating parts of it, or just plain wrong about

something.

One thing I usually look for is to make sure I can find the same fact

verified by a number of other sites & /or a number of other people. If it's

from a site that's selling something, I usually disregard the info or any

references totally.

M.

M.

Re: Current Circumstances, Sun sensitivity,

> IV

> > > chelation, NAET desensitization

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Glenn,

> > > You have been doing some great work on research and

> recovery. I

> > > have

> > > pretty severe MCS and EMS brought on by a pesticide exposure.

> I

> > > actually did some detox through physician directed colonics.

> Please

> > > don't everyone freak out on me. I get way negative reactions

> in

> > > general when I mention colonics in the MCS community. I'm not

> > > espousing this for treatment. I did get some positive results

> when

> > > nothing else worked. I'm just sharing my experience. And I

> have had a

> > > history of bowel problems from years of antibiotic use.

> > >

> > > I had a bad reaction to dmsa treatment after the sixth week

> but it

> > > greatly reduced my mecury and lead levels. Again only my

> experience.

> > > I

> > > was interested in finding out about your niacin regimen. What

> kinds

> > > and dosages are you using. Is it physician directed? Is it

> time

> > > release, no flush? Is it chelated? What brands are you using?

> > >

> > > Overall I've made enough of a recovery to work part time. But

> I have

> > > to be very careful. And my health and energy are way up and

> down. And

> > > I know that I am one exposure away from going downhill fast

> again.

> > >

> > > Thanks, Alan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >