Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I don't recommend detoxing until your intestines are strong and your liver, kidneys and colon are clear. my 1 cent, On Oct 12, 2007, at 12:55 PM, ajwelectro wrote: > Hi everyone, Im back. > > I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and > Iron were low so this > can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity > started about the same > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this > has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my > hopes on having > mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over > time and potentially > reduce the ES. > > Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to > believe that this is not > linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to > detox, maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully > received, I am so confused > with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up > like this forever, im just not > convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do > understand he is just > trying to help me. > > Thanks, > Alison > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 What's the exact value of your mercury reading? Note that your level may be 'normal' because most every one else in the U.S. also has mercury running through their veins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 > Note that your level may be 'normal' because > most every one else in the U.S. also has mercury > running through their veins. Note that a normal mercury (or any toxin) reading from your bloodstream may also be meaningless because what matters is how much toxins have accumulated in your brain, liver, kidneys, thyroid, etc. This will likely not correlate with blood levels. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 > One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity started about the same > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this has come back normal. As I said in another message, just because the test comes back normal doesn't mean that you're in the clear. It could be that the mercury has deposited somewhere in your brain or thyroid, and this is not likely to show up on a blood or urine test unless you are taking something to mobilize it into the bloodstream. > My specialist now suggests that I dont need to detox, maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? You should do both -- a good antioxidant will make you feel better in the short term, while detoxing will make you feel better in the long term (and potentially worse in the short term if you overdo it). Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Hi Alison, Mercury amalgam removal does seem to have been the cause of the onset of ES for a number of people. It happened to my wife Sue (there are various posts about this buried in the archives) and the Swedish (2001) questionnaire responses given on FEB's website state that amalgam removal is one of the most common trigger factors. The mercury vapour gets mobilised in large quantities when it is drilled out, and if it gets into the bloodstream appears to cause a range of problems. Marc's point about it depositing in tissues and then being undetectable by blood tests is a valid one. There has been a lot written about whether mercury can cross the " blood-brain barrier " . Some key questions which would make it more likely to be the cause of your ES; - did the dentist use a rubber dam and vacuum when removing your amalgams? - did he give you any detox protocol (e.g. vitamin C, chlorella, charcoal, etc etc) before and after the extraction? - did you have a lot of fillings removed in one go? - did you feel any unease or discomfort at the time? (e.g. rubber dam not feeling properly in place, burning sensation in throat - this was what happened to Sue) - was your immune system already weak or do you have any known problems with liver detoxification, leaky gut etc? If answer to 1/2 is no or 3/4/5 is yes, I'd say the amalgam removal is a likely cause. Finding an answer is more tricky. Detox may help, with 2 provisos; - mercury may be buried deep in tissues so may be difficult and slow to get out - if your immune system, gut or liver is weak and can't eliminate the mobilised mercury, it will just go back into other tissues, sometimes making things worse. For Sue, her ES symptoms are definitely much worse when she is low in magnesium - I think this is a common experience. Ian _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of ajwelectro Sent: 12 October 2007 17:56 Subject: Blood Tests - need advice Hi everyone, Im back. I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron were low so this can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity started about the same time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a mercury test but this has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes on having mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over time and potentially reduce the ES. Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to believe that this is not linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to detox, maybe take an antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully received, I am so confused with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like this forever, im just not convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do understand he is just trying to help me. Thanks, Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Thanks for all the replies. My fillings were just removed with no precautions taken, i think I had 4/5 done there and then with no hint it could be potentially dangerous. I feel extremely stupid about this and have regretted this decision greatly since getting the ES. As yet I do not know the Mercury readings but I take all your points on board, these have been posted to me so I will let you know when they arrive. My next question is, how do I detox etc? I understand I need to detox and take antioxidants and apprecvate it will take time but I dont know where to start? I am still only eating organic fruit/veg mainly diet and drinking more water but I need to know what to buy or what I can do. I need to understand how to detox... any advice? Also, I think my immune system is weak but are there any further tests to find out? and how can I strengthen this? I am doing my best with food and vitamins etc. Again, any thoughts greatfully received. I understand you dont have all the answers on here but you have given the best advice and although I am still extremely bad, I am more hopeful, so thanks for this. Alison > > Hi Alison, > > Mercury amalgam removal does seem to have been the cause of the onset of ES > for a number of people. It happened to my wife Sue (there are various posts > about this buried in the archives) and the Swedish (2001) questionnaire > responses given on FEB's website state that amalgam removal is one of the > most common trigger factors. > > The mercury vapour gets mobilised in large quantities when it is drilled > out, and if it gets into the bloodstream appears to cause a range of > problems. Marc's point about it depositing in tissues and then being > undetectable by blood tests is a valid one. There has been a lot written > about whether mercury can cross the " blood-brain barrier " . > > Some key questions which would make it more likely to be the cause of your > ES; > - did the dentist use a rubber dam and vacuum when removing your amalgams? > - did he give you any detox protocol (e.g. vitamin C, chlorella, charcoal, > etc etc) before and after the extraction? > - did you have a lot of fillings removed in one go? > - did you feel any unease or discomfort at the time? (e.g. rubber dam not > feeling properly in place, burning sensation in throat - this was what > happened to Sue) > - was your immune system already weak or do you have any known problems with > liver detoxification, leaky gut etc? > > If answer to 1/2 is no or 3/4/5 is yes, I'd say the amalgam removal is a > likely cause. > > Finding an answer is more tricky. Detox may help, with 2 provisos; > - mercury may be buried deep in tissues so may be difficult and slow to get > out > - if your immune system, gut or liver is weak and can't eliminate the > mobilised mercury, it will just go back into other tissues, sometimes making > things worse. > > For Sue, her ES symptoms are definitely much worse when she is low in > magnesium - I think this is a common experience. > > Ian > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of > ajwelectro > Sent: 12 October 2007 17:56 > > Subject: Blood Tests - need advice > > > > Hi everyone, Im back. > > I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron > were low so this > can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity started > about the same > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this > has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes on > having > mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over time > and potentially > reduce the ES. > > Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to > believe that this is not > linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to detox, > maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully received, > I am so confused > with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like this > forever, im just not > convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do > understand he is just > trying to help me. > > Thanks, > Alison > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Here's a link to the herbs I have taken that have helped my immune system and helped detox. Nettles are wonderful! Sounds like you are on the right track with good food. I also have used zeolite with unsure success. Ive done 6 bottles in the last five? months and I like it, however can't tell if it really helped. The thing that helps me the most is living with the electricity off at the breakers, then turning on the breaker when I need it. That means knowing your home electricity and which breakers control what. I also minimize my time on the computer and practice " prudent avoidance " whenever possible. Sun, and exercise are also very important. My health has really improved since last november when I discovered my ES. It takes time. Sandi http://www.rosemarysgarden.com/1521888123036.html http://www.rosemarysgarden.com/193rgtnutri.html http://www.rosemarysgarden.com/193rgtimmun.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 My iron runs low too. Supplementing won't always fix it, as the body will try to starve pathogens by keeping iron out of the blood. My iron level improved after avoiding wheat. Other allergens (dairy) might be considered for avoidance, also any mold (which is often in commercial juices I've read). Bill On 10/12/07, ajwelectro <ajwelectro@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, Im back. > > I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron > were low so this > can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity > started about the same > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this > has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes > on having > mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over > time and potentially > reduce the ES. > > Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to > believe that this is not > linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to > detox, maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully > received, I am so confused > with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like > this forever, im just not > convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do > understand he is just > trying to help me. > > Thanks, > Alison > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Hi, Bill, People with celiac disease have iron deficiency. This is caused by a gluten intolerance which damages the site in the small intestine where iron is extracted. People with celiac disease are intolerant of wheat, rye, barley, and sometimes oats and millet. I write this because celiac disease has far reaching consequences and one with this disease can tolerate 0 intake of glutens. (Just avoiding wheat most of the time will not cut it.) If you need more info, just write me privately and I will answer privately. Diane Bill Bruno <wbruno@...> wrote: My iron runs low too. Supplementing won't always fix it, as the body will try to starve pathogens by keeping iron out of the blood. My iron level improved after avoiding wheat. Other allergens (dairy) might be considered for avoidance, also any mold (which is often in commercial juices I've read). Bill On 10/12/07, ajwelectro <ajwelectro@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, Im back. > > I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron > were low so this > can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity > started about the same > time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a > mercury test but this > has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes > on having > mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over > time and potentially > reduce the ES. > > Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to > believe that this is not > linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to > detox, maybe take an > antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully > received, I am so confused > with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like > this forever, im just not > convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do > understand he is just > trying to help me. > > Thanks, > Alison > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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