Re: Re: Electromagnetic rodent repellers

[Guest guest]

> You can doubt all you wish but orgone has helped lots of people.

Maybe so, but I have not seen many positive reports about it

on this particular group. Yours might even be the first!

Marc

[Guest guest]

> but u never really know who these people are on these groups do u

> marc, they could all work for mobile phone companies and being paid

> to debunk all the positive solutions.

Hmmm, that seems overly paranoid. And I've personally tried many

of the suggestions that have reportedly worked for others here.

> I know that company has sold thousands of orgone generators and never

> had a single one returned thats an impressive track record eh.

Not really. I never returned the orgone devices that didn't work

for me -- I just tossed them in the trash! They weren't that

expensive, and certainly not worth the effort of returning them.

It's good to see someone defending orgone here, as not even

the inventors (the Crofts themselves) would defend their

products when I reported bad reactions. And on their

website, they continued to claim that nobody had ever

reported bad reactions.

> Try to not be too negative eh. You might never get better.

Some might say that I got better years ago. It all depends on

what your definition of " better " is... :-)

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Hey marc martin tell me have you ever found anything that helps with

> extreme sensitivity and if so what is it. Since this is a group

> looking for solutions can you tell me if you have ever found any and

> what are they.

If you read some of the initial messages of this group (from 5 years

ago), you will see that I have many suggestions. You can also

read my testimonial on the " Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity "

website:

http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/cases/Marc.html

I think that my sensitivity used to indeed be " extreme " . 30 minutes

of computer use would leave me fatigued and unable to do much

of anything for the next 3 days.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> The definition of better would obviously be are you no longer

> electrically sensitive. Makes sense, yeah?

It's more complex than that. I know people who do NOT think

that they are electrically sensitive, but when further questioned

they admit that they cannot use a computer for longer than 2

hours at a time.

I on the other hand DO think I'm electrically sensitive, yet

with the proper devices, supplements, and diet, I can use

the computer for 8 hours a day without lingering problems.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> In my experience none of those things that helped you has helped me.

Well, as we all know, everyone seems to be a bit different. I do

know that there have been some people on this group who responded

well to the very same things that I responded well to, and there have

also been people who report no improvement from things that I

responded well to.

And similarly, others have reported good results from things that did

not help me.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Marc~I appreciate your level headedness and advice. You have been one on

here who has been extremely helpful to me, patient and always answering my

questions. I also trust your opinions.

I thank you for that~

Amy

lifeforcegenerators@... writes:

But everyone has different symptoms, because all people are unique.

Thats why your weighing in with your statement ORGONE dont work. Is

not helpful. It didnt work for you.You need to qualify this with

another statement that it has worked for others. If you are certain

it has never worked for anyone I would suggest that you are mistaken

or BIAST. People with your attitude can do harm because it has helped

some people. You are implying that it has no value and you are wrong

in this. Maybe you should think outside yourself and the supposed

experiences of 500 people on a group who you imply have all tried

orgone unsuccessfully. Give me a break marc martin, thats a good name

got a filmstar ring to it. Eh?

>

> > Hey marc martin tell me have you ever found anything that helps

with

> > extreme sensitivity and if so what is it. Since this is a group

> > looking for solutions can you tell me if you have ever found any

and

> > what are they.

>

> If you read some of the initial messages of this group (from 5 years

> ago), you will see that I have many suggestions. You can also

> read my testimonial on the " Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity "

> website:

>

> _http://www.electrichttp://www.elechttp://www.http://www.http_

(http://www.electrical-sensitivity.info/cases/Marc.html)

>

> I think that my sensitivity used to indeed be " extreme " . 30 minutes

> of computer use would leave me fatigued and unable to do much

> of anything for the next 3 days.

>

> Marc

>

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[Guest guest]

> Marc~I appreciate your level headedness and advice. You have been one on

> here who has been extremely helpful to me, patient and always answering

> my questions. I also trust your opinions.

Thanks, Amy.

A little " behind the scenes " information -- new subscribers are always

moderated, so I can make sure that they are not going to spam the group

or be obnoxious or anything. This new person, " lifeforcegenerators " ,

was having quite a few posts rejected due to rudeness, and finally

I had to ban him/her from the group today. I didn't create this

group to have people become insulting or making false accusations about

my motives (of course, you didn't see the nastiest posts,

but that's just as well).

I'd be perfectly happy to hear good reports about orgone -- I'm not

trying to conceal any miracle cures here... despite what some

people might think...

Marc

[Guest guest]

> this is one of the most serious reactions I've had to a household

> type EMF so suspect there is something particularly aggravating about

> it which would make sense if its trying to drive mice (tough

> customers) out.

Yes, the funny thing about those devices is that the instructions

claim that the frequencies used will have NO effect on people.

Obviously that is not true for 100% of the population.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Marc,  Hats off to you for cleansing our group from people with ulterior

motives.  I read your personal history and wonder if you could tell me where to

find seasilver and NDF, or some other mercury chelator.  I asked for it at my

local health food store and got the usual deer-in-the-headlights stare.  At

least I learned how to pronounce chelator correctly.

Mike in Phoenix.

From: resergence <lifeforcegenerators@...>

Subject: Re: Electromagnetic rodent repellers

Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 10:46 AM

In my experience none of those things that helped you has helped me.

>

> > Hey marc martin tell me have you ever found anything that helps

with

> > extreme sensitivity and if so what is it. Since this is a group

> > looking for solutions can you tell me if you have ever found any

and

> > what are they.

>

> If you read some of the initial messages of this group (from 5 years

> ago), you will see that I have many suggestions. You can also

> read my testimonial on the " Overcoming Electrical Sensitivity "

> website:

>

> http://www.electric al-sensitivity. info/cases/ Marc. html

>

> I think that my sensitivity used to indeed be " extreme " . 30 minutes

> of computer use would leave me fatigued and unable to do much

> of anything for the next 3 days.

>

> Marc

>