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Hi Joyce,

The penetration is dependent on the strength of the pulse which depends on the various components in the device, not the basic design from Beck or someone else. I'm not familiar with the PEMF but I've seen Beck devices advertised that can penetrate up to 20 inches or more.

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-----Original Message-----From: Joyce Filmore [mailto:joy1135@...]Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 11:28 AMegroupsSubject: Magnetic Therapyhttp://www.pulsegen.com/List:I have a question.Is the device advertised at the above site similar to the magnetic pulserthat Beck recommends? snip<<..........By penetrating a pulsating electromagnetic field whichpenetrates 20 inches in all directions. Pulse Gen can reach virtuallyall injured deep tissues. Even for mild to moderate pain which issuperficial......>>They refer to is as PEMF - Pulsed Electromagnetic Field Therapy. Ithink I remember reading somewhere that the Beck magnetic pulserpenetrates only 5 inches. Is that correct?Joyce ________________________________________________________________YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit:http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Hi Joyce;

This PEMF device at www.pulsegen.com is like the two portables on

www.magnapak.com or the one on www.vitamag.com They work very well for

magnetic therapy in a wholistic way, closer to the PEMF industrial models at

the doctors office. These devices pulse very small amounts of current many

times per second, with harmonics within each pulse.

VERY small amounts of magnetism can produce results. The little devices

are NOT designed to kill germs, but instead help to balance mental and

physical rhythms and induce response WRT bone/joint/circulation.

Beck's device packs a wallop that will induce a measurable amount of CURRENT

in the subject in order to kill pathogens. If you were to measure it on the

same scale as the little portables the penetrating distance would be several

feet but since it doesn't perform the same work, comparison on that regard

is moot.

hope this helps...

ciao

Duncan

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Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good

night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been 4

months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by

taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed

back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers with

no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get a good

nights sleep.

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In a message dated 13/09/2009 10:46:59 GMT Daylight Time,

charles@... writes:

>>>>>>electrosensibles should avoid at all costs everything that is

magnetic.

This goes for alternating as well as static magnetic fields.

And certrainly for magnetic therapies as well as magnetic inlays in shoes,

>>>>>>

This doesn't appear correct for everyone. A friend of mine tried

kinesiology(muscle testing) which showed him that a magnetic bracelet helped

reduce

problems from mobile phones.

He's since found something better, but magnetic therapy may be worth

trying. Everyone is different.

best wishes

electrosensitivity.co.uk

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Hi Jennie,

Sue also had to go to a nearby park area with a lake to sleep when her ES

was at its worst. It really helped - lack of sleep was running her down even

more. Some of our friends weren't too happy with the idea, but desperate

situations need desperate remedies! It was a deserted country area, which

was paradoxically safer than a city park because there was nobody around at

all, so no danger of being disturbed by drunks, tramps etc. When Sue had

recovered a bit (and when winter arrived), she was able to sleep in the

house with the power off at night. It is a bit inconvenient, and we

eventually got the fuse box changed and had some areas (like my study and an

outhouse with the freezer) put on a separate circuit which can be left on at

night - the wires don't run anywhere near our bedroom so it gives Sue no

problems.

Ian

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Jennie Wassenaar

Sent: 11 September 2009 18:07

Subject: Re: Magnetic Therapy

That is incredible that you have to go to the park and sleep! I had never

thought of that option, I am hoping that some of the adjustments I am making

will help. I have talked to my husband about turning off the breaker at

night but unfortunately he is not willing to make that inconvenience to help

me. Thanks for the suggestions, if you think of anything else let me know.

Have a great day,

Jennie

________________________________

From: Loni <loni326 (DOT) <mailto:loni326%40> com>

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:41:29 AM

Subject: Re: Magnetic Therapy

Are you turning all the electric off at the breaker at night? I have to go

to the park & sleep (camp) due to the masts here. Loni

From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net>

Subject: Magnetic Therapy

" EMS " <groups (DOT) com>

Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 8:46 PM

Does anyone have any information or experience with magnetic therapy?

I had sent an e-mail a few months back regarding my inability to get a good

night's sleep after they upgraded a mast near our home (1/2 mile). It's been

4 months and I still have not had a good nights sleep but it has improved by

taking Melatonin and doing some magnetic therapy. I'd like to hear some feed

back on long term/on going magnetic therapy.

Thanks,

Jennie

PS we will be taking delivery of a sleep number mattress soon (air chambers

with no metal springs) and I'm crossing my fingers that it will help me get

a good nights sleep.

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Hello,

electrosensibles should avoid at all costs everything that is magnetic.

This goes for alternating as well as static magnetic fields.

And certrainly for magnetic therapies as well as magnetic inlays in shoes,

beds etc.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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I have three magnetic mattresses. According to Jeff Rense you should put them

between the box springs and the mattress and not on top of the bed. You might

want to try Craig's list. I got a very expensive one for only 50 dollars from

there. They say that you should put the negative side up so that it will

increase the earth's electromagnetic field. Personally I think a lot of the

problem is the earth's electric fields and put the positive side up so as to try

to repel the field. I know that if it were me that would not be enough but they

do bring a comforting feeling. I haven't lived in the city for many years but

even here in the country I have a couple of masts not that far away. I use

shielding but I know most people can't do a lot of that. Good luck.

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