Re: blocking wifi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/9/2009 2:24:31 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

jkurlant1@... writes:

I know people have posted a lot about the impact of wireless internet on

health, but I haven't seen any postings about how to potentially block wifi

signals from entering your house. Is there a way to do so? Can you jam them? I

use a cable modem, not wifi, but all my neighbors have wifi. Ideas?

Josh

Trace the emissions and sheild with foil, emf fabric etc, sounds simple but

you have to be thorough, bed canopy to sheild you at night etc... you could

buy a faulty sattelite/digi box and plug it in when you are out this would

send signals via the mains/telecoms that can knock out the wifi, and is not

illegal.

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

you wrote:

*buy a faulty sattelite/digi box*

What is that??

Who is selling them?

What do you mean by faulty?

*and plug it in when you are out. this would

send signals via the mains/telecoms that can knock out the wifi, *

How does that work?

Why would this faulty box send jamming signals to the neighbours?

And what signals are we talking about?

*and is not illegal.*

If your electrical equipment is faulty, and is disturbing your neighbours

equipment, you are liable for complaints and damages to pay.

(If it can be proven.)

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Re: blocking wifi

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> Trace the emissions and sheild with foil, emf fabric etc, sounds simple

> but

> you have to be thorough, bed canopy to sheild you at night etc... you

> could

> buy a faulty sattelite/digi box and plug it in when you are out this

> would

> send signals via the mains/telecoms that can knock out the wifi, and is

> not

> illegal.

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Josh,

 

Thick evergreen trees--as tall as your house or taller (the taller the

better)--will help block wifi and cell tower emissions, especially when planted

in a long row touching each other (so there is better coverage).  I do quite

well behind these trees in high emf areas.  And there has been research also to

prove this is the case--meters also read lower behind thick evergreens.  It is

better to plant these away from your house, if you can, rather than right next

to it (for various reasons, not just emf reasons).  But, other than that, that

was the question I asked previous to yours--are there other ways to deal with

emfs in the atmosphere?  It is not always possible to plant huge evergreens for

emf protection, but other than personal polarizers, particular gemstones which

collect energies in general (such as clear quartz, moonstone, amber, and some

say, mother of pearl...), placing bottles of water in front of you (works in

some applications),

aluminum foil in particular applications, some emf blocking fabrics, metal

screening (in some capacities), are there ways of blocking out wifi on a large

scale--things which work for your entire property, other than little fixes?  All

of the things I have just mentioned, other than the trees, are fixes that are

only partial helpful.  And, I suspect the trees might only be partially helpful

in many applications.  I would like to block both electrosmog and ground

currents at my property line (realizing that this might be a pipe-dream). 

 

Also, in case you haven't been following along recently, Marc sent me a list of

" emf transformers " the week before last to put on your electrical wiring (and in

your car, etc) which will help with transforming electrosmog (I don't have

personal experience with this yet--these do not always help all es people from

what I understand, so there is alot of experimentation involved).  These also

have to be used with the other remediations I have just mentioned. They are not

totally blocking either.  I am looking for something that will work also outside

in my gardens--and the trees do that, but take a long time to grow tall.  That

said, one could get fairly good cover in about 5 years if they selected the

right trees.  (But you need something in the meantime--bamboo also would work

temporarily, but you could only plant it in pots, as most areas (at least in

Pa.) outlaw planting bamboo in the ground.)

 

Diane

From: Kurlantzick <jkurlant1@...>

Subject: blocking wifi

Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 2:16 AM

I know people have posted a lot about the impact of wireless internet on health,

but I haven't seen any postings about how to potentially block wifi signals from

entering your house. Is there a way to do so? Can you jam them? I use a cable

modem, not wifi, but all my neighbors have wifi. Ideas?

Josh

[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

 

But wouldn't this create a magnetic field in your house while you are gone?  I

have found from experimentation that even unplugging all appliances that are

unpluggable help with avoiding magnetic fields.  Once my hubby plugged in a cell

phone charger while we were gone and I didn't know it.  He unplugged it as soon

as we got home, but I reacted to it immediately when I entered the room where he

had it plugged in.  He was amazed I could tell something had been plugged in--it

made a true believer out of him.  Another time, he plugged in an oil filled

heater in a bedroom above me.  I could feel the magnetic current around the

electrical socket in the room I was in immediately and called up to him to see

what he had just done.  It takes a couple hours before the emfs clear out then

afterward.

 

Diane

From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

Subject: Re: blocking wifi

Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 10:33 AM

In a message dated 3/9/2009 2:24:31 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

jkurlant1hotmail (DOT) com writes:

I know people have posted a lot about the impact of wireless internet on

health, but I haven't seen any postings about how to potentially block wifi

signals from entering your house. Is there a way to do so? Can you jam them? I

use a cable modem, not wifi, but all my neighbors have wifi. Ideas?

Josh

Trace the emissions and sheild with foil, emf fabric etc, sounds simple but

you have to be thorough, bed canopy to sheild you at night etc... you could

buy a faulty sattelite/digi box and plug it in when you are out this would

send signals via the mains/telecoms that can knock out the wifi, and is not

illegal.

[Guest guest]

> It takes a couple hours before the emfs to clear out then afterward.

I think the EMF clears out immediately after you turn something

off. However, it may take a couple hours (or even days) for

your body to recover from the exposure.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi, Marc,

 

Is this true of magnetic fields too?  I should have worded it differently,

because I meant that I could feel the magnetic field around the socket and in

the room after they were unplugged.  (Otherwise how did I react to the

unplugging of the cell phone charger after it was unplugged?  I was not in the

room while it was on.)  I sense magnetic fields around electrical wires and

sockets and things like my DSL router/ethernet cables/etc for an hour or more

after they are off sometimes--depends alot on how long they were hooked up to

begin with.  Same is true with passing trains--I react to them for 10 to 20 mins

later--it depends on the train; they do not all affect me the same amount.  But

these are feelings which go away immediately when I leave the areas they are

in. 

 

Diane

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: blocking wifi

Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 2:20 PM

> It takes a couple hours before the emfs to clear out then afterward.

I think the EMF clears out immediately after you turn something

off. However, it may take a couple hours (or even days) for

your body to recover from the exposure.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I sense magnetic

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> router/ethernet cables/etc for an hour or more after they are off

I think that an EMF meter would show an instant drop in the magnetic

field once an item is turned off. However, you certainly could

be sensing " something " after it is turned off... maybe a residual

scalar field, lack of quantum coherence, etc.

Marc

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

> I just read your email to Marc and I'm wondering if you are reacting to

> the energetic disruption left after the emf itself has cleared out - it

> won't be a measurable emf field but more like a energetic residue

On a different (but related) subject, I once asked the folks at

Quantum Products if there was any residual effect from their products

after they are turned off. This was their reply:

" Thank you for your question. If you leave the Quantum Pro plugged

in and turned on in an area for a few days and then take it away,

there can be some lingering coherent effect that will gradually

fade away over a week or two as the chaotic effect of the more

rigid electricity begins to dominate again. "

So there is a lingering effect with the Quantum Products, but this

is not what we would normally call " EMF " or a " magnetic field " .

Marc

[Guest guest]

OIC, Marc! 

 

Thanks for the info--I just assumed it was magnetic, because I am fairly

clueless.    And I only know what I have learned here and in my reading on the

subject (and most of that I have forgotten!  lol)  Apparently I have not gotten

to the books on scalar fields.... 

 

Thanks, Marc,

Diane

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: blocking wifi

Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 2:54 PM

> I sense magnetic

> fields around electrical wires and sockets and things like my DSL

> router/ethernet cables/etc for an hour or more after they are off

I think that an EMF meter would show an instant drop in the magnetic

field once an item is turned off. However, you certainly could

be sensing " something " after it is turned off... maybe a residual

scalar field, lack of quantum coherence, etc.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> The Ghost Detector is an AC gaussmeter.

Ahh, thanks -- so there are no fancy " ghost frequencies " ... :-)

Marc

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:54:51 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

marc@... writes:

I sense magnetic

> fields around electrical wires and sockets and things like my DSL

> router/ethernet cables/etc for an hour or more after they are off

I think that an EMF meter would show an instant drop in the magnetic

field once an item is turned off. However, you certainly could

be sensing " something " after it is turned off... maybe a residual

scalar field, lack of quantum coherence, etc.

There is also the issue of being in a flight or fight state or in a state of

heightened awareness due to the stimulation positive or negative from the

focus point, your mind and body will no dought take time to come down, at this

point you should perhaps consider re-centering yourself with exersise,

relaxation...

PUK

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:17:40 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

evie15422@... writes:

Once my hubby plugged in a cell phone charger while we were gone and I

didn't know it. He unplugged it as soon as we got home, but I reacted to it

immediately when I entered the room where he had it plugged in.

puk replies - Sounds like a classic case of offgassing, since those nasty

cheap transformers are douse in flame retards and plastics you might well be

reacting to this. It makes sense to me that emf and chemical reactions are

stored in immune/neurological systems in a very close proximity so as to cause

a

similar reaction to each other, lets face it often where there is

electronics there will be offgassing of chems, so the body is grouping them

together as

agitants. You know what I am trying to say...

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:06:05 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

evie15422@... writes:

I am looking for something that will work also outside in my gardens--and

the trees do that, but take a long time to grow tall. That

A massive metal fence as tall as a tree grounded to a metal box the size of

your house buried about 10 meters below the ground at least 50m away from

anywhere you rest, - on the NEXTUP website there is a photo of a similar

attempt

to sheild.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/9/2009 3:39:13 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

charles@... writes:

Hello ,

you wrote:

*buy a faulty sattelite/digi box*

What is that??

Who is selling them?

What do you mean by faulty?

It seems some sattelite receiver boxes have a problem, this does not seem to

affect their operation but the first someone knows of it is when the

neighbour or someone a mile away complains that their wifi is breaking up. It

may

be a fualty RF modulator thing in the box or non filterd circuitry say on the

power supply. This is what is happening to me an a daily basis as per the

sound files I sent you. Bassically you would have find a faulty box by

requesting one from someone who has found that they have one. British Telcom

has a

department to deal with this problem known as the rein dept. Sky recently

recalled 90,000 satelitte boxes for some reason ?

[Guest guest]

Thanks, ,

 

I hadn't thought of that--it isn't an option for most of my yard, tho, since we

have ordinances here which would prohibit such a fence.  But, I might be able to

do a partial fence in the back of the property.

 

Thanks again,

Diane

From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

Subject: Re: blocking wifi

Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 4:12 AM

In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:06:05 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

evie15422 (DOT) com writes:

I am looking for something that will work also outside in my gardens--and

the trees do that, but take a long time to grow tall. That

A massive metal fence as tall as a tree grounded to a metal box the size of

your house buried about 10 meters below the ground at least 50m away from

anywhere you rest, - on the NEXTUP website there is a photo of a similar attempt

to sheild.

[Guest guest]

On my HP I have also a Photograph at the bottom:

http://www.milieuziektes.nl/Pagina168b.html

The openings in this wire netting may be maximum 1/2 " , freferably smaller.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Bitdefender

Re: blocking wifi

Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 4:12 AM

In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:06:05 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

evie15422 (DOT) com writes:

I am looking for something that will work also outside in my gardens--and

the trees do that, but take a long time to grow tall. That

A massive metal fence as tall as a tree grounded to a metal box the size of

your house buried about 10 meters below the ground at least 50m away from

anywhere you rest, - on the NEXTUP website there is a photo of a similar

attempt

to sheild.

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much, !  I will look into that.

 

Diane

From: paulpjcaol (DOT) com <paulpjcaol (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: blocking wifi

groups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 4:12 AM

In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:06:05 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

evie15422 (DOT) com writes:

I am looking for something that will work also outside in my gardens--and

the trees do that, but take a long time to grow tall. That

A massive metal fence as tall as a tree grounded to a metal box the size of

your house buried about 10 meters below the ground at least 50m away from

anywhere you rest, - on the NEXTUP website there is a photo of a similar

attempt

to sheild.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Marc,

 

Yes, it occurred to me how silly my question was after I posted it--supposedly

everything that exists has a frequency, so even what is not yet measured does

too!    I guess what my real question was is, are we always sure that all

magnetic/emf frequencies are measureable?  When a meter shows emfs have stopped,

is this truly reliable info or is it the meter just is not able to pick it up? 

The reason I wondered this is because various people--doctors (not that they'd

necessarily know) and building biologists (not that they would also necessarily

know) have indicated to me that many es people may be more sensitive than meters

can measure.  So I just assumed (that bad word again) that I was reacting to a

magnetic field that was not measurable.  Is this a gray area or are we certain

that when a meter no longer measures a reading that the frequency no longer

exists at all?  We all here have a habit of giving opinions rather than hard

facts, at

times, and I am asking is this hard fact?  (I am not putting down

opinions---sometimes that is truly all there is at the moment to go on; I am

just trying to learn more about emfs.)

 

Thanks,

Diane

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: blocking wifi

Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 4:23 PM

> Interesting, too. I am not sure I understand this whole line of info,

> tho--are these fields different frequencies, on a continuing spectrum of

> frequencies? Or are they different entities--for lack of a better

> term--altogether? Are they not measurable because they are not

> frequencies, or is it that meters do not yet exist which measure them?

I don't really know. I've tried reading stuff online about Quantum

Physics / Quantum Mechanics, Quantum Coherence, but I never get

very far...

But I suspect that if this is something that people can feel, then

someday there will be a meter which can measure " it " . And for all

I know, such a meter already exists? For example, has anyone tried

using a " Ghost Detector " to see if it correlates with ES symptoms?

http://www.amazon. com/The-Ghost- Meter-EMF- Sensor/dp/ B000ZH7G1E

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I guess what my real question was is, are

> we always sure that all magnetic/emf frequencies are measureable?

Maybe if we had as many meters as does... :-) But even

then, there are probably super high frequencies/harmonics that are

not being measured...

> building biologists (not that they would also necessarily know) have

> indicated to me that many es people may be more sensitive than meters can

> measure.

That goes for more than just EMF -- I seem to have a nose for

natural gas leaks that is more acute than the gas detectors

at the natural gas company. They eventually find the problem,

but their detectors don't do them much good.

Marc

[Guest guest]

These are all good suggestions - but, my problem is that I'm renting this house,

so I don't know I can do any landscaping work. Probably not. Has anyone had

success with a Faraday cage when sleeping, so at least you heal while sleeping

and can improve that way?

Josh

From: evie15422@...

Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:55:24 -0700

Subject: Re: blocking wifi

Thanks so much, ! I will look into that.

Diane

From: paulpjcaol (DOT) com <paulpjcaol (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: blocking wifi

groups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 4:12 AM

In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:06:05 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

evie15422 (DOT) com writes:

I am looking for something that will work also outside in my gardens--and

the trees do that, but take a long time to grow tall. That

A massive metal fence as tall as a tree grounded to a metal box the size of

your house buried about 10 meters below the ground at least 50m away from

anywhere you rest, - on the NEXTUP website there is a photo of a similar

attempt

to sheild.

[Guest guest]

My experience with a silver lined fabric faraday is/was mixed. I felt

the presence of the radio/electrical energy around me even though the

meters said the overall exposure was less.

I had it grounded and when I would touch the fabric, my body voltage

would go to pretty much zero, meaning the grounding was working.

Here is the big but. My sense was that earth currents or ground

electrical charges were coming into the fabric as well as I thought the

whole thing acted like an antenna array attracting energy to me.

After moving away from that house (lots of towers nearby and bad house

wiring), now 2 houses later, I had the bedroom painted with copper

paint when I moved in and grounded it. The walls became radiant with E

fields. Yes when I would touch the wall my body voltage would go to nil

but when sleeping by it, my body voltage would increase as currents

would rush through me. I felt like the room attracted and focused the

outside energy around me and I felt worse than in a regular room.

I think there needs to be a mixture of fabric or materials involved

that absorbs as well as block. I wish I had the money to build an

underground stone bunker. My current basement isn't fully concrete all

around and isn't finished. I guess I could finish it with concrete

walls, brick or something ($10,000+) My fault for not holding out for a

huge underground basement when we picked another house.

There are very expensive square tents made for about $6-10,000 that

supposedly block microwave radiation and are used in the military and I

have seen rooms made of steel and other metals that are expensive. I

think getting underground is going to be the goal for me to get away

from the higher frequencies.

Don't know yet about the ground frequencies and earth currents that are

filled with return currents to the power substations.

Depending on your situation, a Faraday cage may make it better (I

travel with it in hotels sometimes). Overall, having something that is

close to the body, is not a permanent or best solution. I wish I could

say something else that is better other than go underground.

I am still looking, learning, and hoping to recover faster than having

to dig a hole to live in. I am counting on the recovery angle right

now.

On Mar 10, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Kurlantzick wrote:

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> this house, so I don't know I can do any landscaping work. Probably

> not. Has anyone had success with a Faraday cage when sleeping, so at

> least you heal while sleeping and can improve that way?

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[Guest guest]

I had the bedroom painted with copper

paint when I moved in and grounded it. The walls became radiant with E

fields. Yes when I would touch the wall my body voltage would go to nil

but when sleeping by it, my body voltage would increase as currents

would rush through me. I felt like the room attracted and focused the

outside energy around me and I felt worse than in a regular room.

Hi ,

Please remember that electric field is the voltage difference between 2

locations (that is why the unit for electric field is volts per meter). If

one shields and grounds 4 walls and a ceiling, then those surfaces will all

have the same voltage as ground. But, if there is a source of voltage INSIDE

the room, or on/below the unshielded floor, then there will be a voltage

difference (E-field) between the shield and that voltage source. Because the

grounded shield is now closer to the source than the Earth was (in the

unshielded state) the electric field is actually greater. Remember, in V/m

if you decrease distance (m), you increase the value of V/m.

In summary, moving the shield (ground) closer to the voltage causes an

increase in electric field... even though there is no change in the voltage.

There are two ways around this:

1] make sure the shield is a complete enclosure

2] make sure there are no sources of voltage inside the shield or near the

unshielded openings.

(By the way, electric outlets in a room with shielded walls will produce

very high electric fields... unless you shield the outlets or turn off the

power).

Emil

[Guest guest]

I did turn off the power to the bedroom and to other rooms around it and to

wires that ran near it. I did a lot of experimenting with which breakers I

could turn off and leave on (fridge) in order lower the body voltage as low

as possible.

I admire your expertise with the V/m language. I would love to have someone

with that knowledge experiment with me.

Let me know when you are in NC.

Thanks you for the feedback.

>On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:30:19 -0500 " lessemf.com " <lessemf@...>

wrote.

> I had the bedroom painted with copper

>paint when I moved in and grounded it. The walls became radiant with E

>fields. Yes when I would touch the wall my body voltage would go to nil

>but when sleeping by it, my body voltage would increase as currents

>would rush through me. I felt like the room attracted and focused the

>outside energy around me and I felt worse than in a regular room.

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>Hi ,

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>Please remember that electric field is the voltage difference between 2

>locations (that is why the unit for electric field is volts per meter). If

>one shields and grounds 4 walls and a ceiling, then those surfaces will all

>have the same voltage as ground. But, if there is a source of voltage

INSIDE

>the room, or on/below the unshielded floor, then there will be a voltage

>difference (E-field) between the shield and that voltage source. Because

the

>grounded shield is now closer to the source than the Earth was (in the

>unshielded state) the electric field is actually greater. Remember, in V/m

>if you decrease distance (m), you increase the value of V/m.

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>In summary, moving the shield (ground) closer to the voltage causes an

>increase in electric field... even though there is no change in the

voltage.

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>There are two ways around this:

>1] make sure the shield is a complete enclosure

>2] make sure there are no sources of voltage inside the shield or near the

>unshielded openings.

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>(By the way, electric outlets in a room with shielded walls will produce

>very high electric fields... unless you shield the outlets or turn off the

>power).

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>Emil

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[Guest guest]

Hi, ,

 

I know where you are coming from--and I too am keen on getting to the recovery

end, even tho I am not really that bad most of the time now.  I have been

thinking of sleeping in my basement in our new house, too.  The basement there

has glass block windows on one side and so it is quite light in the day and not

necessarily totally blocking out all emfs.  I have spent alot of time there in

the day--not lying down, tho, which I have found to often present different

problems--and it feels quite peaceful, es-wise.  There is a mold problem in an

enclosed room in that basement, so I would have to get to the bottom of that

before trying sleeping there.  I also did some experiments with essential oils

there--the oil " theives oil " really made the basement feel good--hard to

explain, but it did alot more than just add fragrance.  It had a good " vibe " to

it and knocked the harsh edge, for lack of better terminology, off of the

basement feel.  This basement

is totally concrete walls and floor with a wood ceiling.  I also tried a

hydrogen peroxide generator there, but the vibes from it were not good--very

harsh.  I unfortunately didn't use it long enough to kill all the mold there, as

it came back.  But it did help with the mold when I tried it.  (I suspect tho,

if anyone tries killing mold with one of these, it is better not to be present

at all and run it for over a month non-stop.)  You can get these from building

biologists to try for a month.

 

Thanks for the heads up on the metal fixes, .  I hope you don't ever have

to try your stone hideaway--hope healing comes soon. 

 

Diane

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> From: paulpjcaol (DOT) com <paulpjcaol (DOT) com>

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> Subject: Re: blocking wifi

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> groups (DOT) com

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> Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 4:12 AM

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> In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:06:05 P.M. GMT Standard Time,

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> evie15422 (DOT) com writes:

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> I am looking for something that will work also outside in my

> gardens--and

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> the trees do that, but take a long time to grow tall. That

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> A massive metal fence as tall as a tree grounded to a metal box the

> size of

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> your house buried about 10 meters below the ground at least 50m away

> from

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> anywhere you rest, - on the NEXTUP website there is a photo of a

> similar

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> attempt

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> to sheild.

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