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One of your suggestions is to go to church.

Actually, some of them have leased their steeples for cellphone antennas!

L.

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> EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems,

such as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health

problems can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some

of the top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic

Fields to provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

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> http://emfsensitivity.org/10ways.html

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> Best wishes,

> Jane Springs

> EMFSensitivity.org

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> P.S.    EMFSensitivity.org is looking for volunteers!  If you would like to

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Yes lots of them have & they are hiding them in the steeples. It is horrible.

Loni

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Subject: Re: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 8:26 AM

 

One of your suggestions is to go to church.

Actually, some of them have leased their steeples for cellphone antennas!

L.

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> EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems,

such as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health

problems can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some

of the top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic

Fields to provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

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> http://emfsensitivi ty.org/10ways. html

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> Best wishes,

> Jane Springs

> EMFSensitivity. org

>  

> P.S.    EMFSensitivity. org is looking for volunteers!  If you would like to

help us out, please contact us directly, by writing to admin@...

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This is interesting - like the bit about the church and the bathroom - is that

why I love to wallow in my bath for so long??? But the train is a b ig no no - I

cannot handle the train at all - all those cell phones and wifi give me the

mother of migraine headaches. So a big no to trains.

From: Jane Springs <chelatingblues@...>

Subject: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 20:54

 

 

EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems, such

as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health problems

can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some of the

top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic Fields to

provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

 

http://emfsensitivi ty.org/10ways. html

 

Best wishes,

Jane Springs

EMFSensitivity. org

 

P.S.    EMFSensitivity. org is looking for volunteers!  If you would like to

help us out, please contact us directly, by writing to admin@emfsensitivit y.org

 

 

 

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The thought of airplane is terrifying. What if you start to have life

threatening reactions & you are stuck up in the air?  Yikes. Loni

From: Jane Springs <chelatingblues>

Subject: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

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Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 20:54

 

 

EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems, such

as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health problems

can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some of the

top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic Fields to

provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

 

http://emfsensitivi ty.org/10ways. html

 

Best wishes,

Jane Springs

EMFSensitivity. org

 

P.S.    EMFSensitivity. org is looking for volunteers!  If you would like to

help us out, please contact us directly, by writing to admin@emfsensitivit y.org

 

 

 

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> The thought of airplane is terrifying. What if you start to have life

> threatening reactions & you are stuck up in the air? 

I was flying in airplanes when I was at my very worst. It was the

immediate environment around my seat that was the big problem,

not the plane itself. I was most bothered by the overhead

florescent lights and my neighbors " gadgets " (laptop, DVD player,

etc)

I once sat right next to one of the engines and noticed

nothing...

Marc

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Have you seen the latest about planes??

Free Wi-Fi In The Sky, Brought To You By Lexus

The industry leading Lexus LS Line will sponsor free inflight internet for all

American Airlines passengers on Wi-Fi equipped flights November 1-7, 2009.

I just got this news letter from American a/l & they will soon install Wi-Fi on

the planes. Can you imagine being in that cage for hours being radiated by wi-fi

on the entire trip.

I would be totally brain dead by the time we landed.

Ron S

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What about the air quality. I have severe MCS as well? Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 5:02 PM

 

> The thought of airplane is terrifying. What if you start to have life

> threatening reactions & you are stuck up in the air? 

I was flying in airplanes when I was at my very worst. It was the

immediate environment around my seat that was the big problem,

not the plane itself. I was most bothered by the overhead

florescent lights and my neighbors " gadgets " (laptop, DVD player,

etc)

I once sat right next to one of the engines and noticed

nothing...

Marc

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Yes it's that kind of torture I'm talking about. No where to escape. It could be

deadly seriously. Loni

From: ronsehs <rschranz@...>

Subject: Re: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 6:32 PM

 

Have you seen the latest about planes??

Free Wi-Fi In The Sky, Brought To You By Lexus

The industry leading Lexus LS Line will sponsor free inflight internet for all

American Airlines passengers on Wi-Fi equipped flights November 1-7, 2009.

I just got this news letter from American a/l & they will soon install Wi-Fi on

the planes. Can you imagine being in that cage for hours being radiated by wi-fi

on the entire trip.

I would be totally brain dead by the time we landed.

Ron S

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> Free Wi-Fi In The Sky, Brought To You By Lexus

> The industry leading Lexus LS Line will sponsor free inflight internet

> for all American Airlines passengers on Wi-Fi equipped flights November

> 1-7, 2009.

> I just got this news letter from American a/l & they will soon install

> Wi-Fi on the planes. Can you imagine being in that cage for hours being

> radiated by wi-fi on the entire trip.

> I would be totally brain dead by the time we landed.

I don't know if this would be so terrible or not... I've found that in

my own house, our laptop can usually detect multiple Wi-Fi signals.

I think I've found as many as eleven at a time! So one Wi-Fi source on

a plane might not be so bad. Especially if you can find out where the

transmitter is, and sit far away from it (and hope that nobody with

a laptop using the Wi-Fi is sitting close to you)

Marc

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The point is that we can't control this environment & could be very bad for

someone very sensitive like me. We could hope for the best but hope doesn't cut

it for me. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:09 PM

 

> Free Wi-Fi In The Sky, Brought To You By Lexus

> The industry leading Lexus LS Line will sponsor free inflight internet

> for all American Airlines passengers on Wi-Fi equipped flights November

> 1-7, 2009.

> I just got this news letter from American a/l & they will soon install

> Wi-Fi on the planes. Can you imagine being in that cage for hours being

> radiated by wi-fi on the entire trip.

> I would be totally brain dead by the time we landed.

I don't know if this would be so terrible or not... I've found that in

my own house, our laptop can usually detect multiple Wi-Fi signals.

I think I've found as many as eleven at a time! So one Wi-Fi source on

a plane might not be so bad. Especially if you can find out where the

transmitter is, and sit far away from it (and hope that nobody with

a laptop using the Wi-Fi is sitting close to you)

Marc

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Hi, Loni,

 

I was warned by Dr. Rae's staff that I should only fly if absolutely necessary,

due to anaphylaxis and other symptoms caused by my intolerance to pesticides

(the ones I am most sensitive to are the ones they use in trains, boats, planes,

and hotels.)  If I *have* to fly, I should wear an oxygen mask/tank prescribed

by a doctor, and cover my entire body with clothing that can be discarded after

the trip!  (Needless to say, I haven't had to try this yet, thank Goodness!)  I

am wondering how I also would pop calcium AEP and pantethine pills the entire

flight with this get-up on!  lol   

 

Diane

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

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Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 5:02 PM

 

> The thought of airplane is terrifying. What if you start to have life

> threatening reactions & you are stuck up in the air? 

I was flying in airplanes when I was at my very worst. It was the

immediate environment around my seat that was the big problem,

not the plane itself. I was most bothered by the overhead

florescent lights and my neighbors " gadgets " (laptop, DVD player,

etc)

I once sat right next to one of the engines and noticed

nothing...

Marc

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Yes I was thinking that the only way I could possibly fly is with an oxygen

tank. Lovely.

Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

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Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 5:02 PM

 

> The thought of airplane is terrifying. What if you start to have life

> threatening reactions & you are stuck up in the air? 

I was flying in airplanes when I was at my very worst. It was the

immediate environment around my seat that was the big problem,

not the plane itself. I was most bothered by the overhead

florescent lights and my neighbors " gadgets " (laptop, DVD player,

etc)

I once sat right next to one of the engines and noticed

nothing...

Marc

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Does anyone know the rationale behidn " extra pillows " in bed being helpful? -

all I find with extra pillows is that I find it difficult to sleep and wake up

with a bad crick in my neck!!

BW

Steph

From: Jane Springs <chelatingblues>

Subject: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

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Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 20:54

 

 

EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems, such

as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health problems

can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some of the

top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic Fields to

provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

 

http://emfsensitivi ty.org/10ways. html

 

Best wishes,

Jane Springs

EMFSensitivity. org

 

P.S.    EMFSensitivity. org is looking for volunteers!  If you would like to

help us out, please contact us directly, by writing to admin@emfsensitivit y.org

 

 

 

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With trains, you of course want to avoid electrically powered ones. I took a

gaussmeter on the Bay Area BART train once and it went to at least 30

milligauss. And that was just 60 hertz, no telling what other frequencies were

there.

> EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems,

such as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health

problems can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some

of the top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic

Fields to provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

>  

> http://emfsensitivi ty.org/10ways. html

>  

> Best wishes,

> Jane Springs

> EMFSensitivity. org

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Hi, Steph,

 

Pillows only worked for me when I had fibromyalgia.  Since then I have moved on

and am actually like you, I don't like pillows so much (but I still like a soft

topper on my mattress).  I like to sleep with only a towel rolled up and secured

with ribbons under my neck.  (Hey, I can use all the help for my saging jaw-line

I can get; sleeping with your head forward all night is not pretty.  lol) 

 

I don't see how more pillows would help with EMS, personally, unless you are

using latex rubber ones, which might then blunt some emfs from the springs??? 

If that is the case, a latex mattress topper would work as well.

 

Take care,

Diane

From: Jane Springs <chelatingblues>

Subject: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

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Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 20:54

 

 

EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems, such

as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health problems

can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some of the

top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic Fields to

provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

 

http://emfsensitivi ty.org/10ways. html

 

Best wishes,

Jane Springs

EMFSensitivity. org

 

P.S.    EMFSensitivity. org is looking for volunteers!  If you would like to

help us out, please contact us directly, by writing to admin@emfsensitivit y.org

 

 

 

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Hi Diane

 

As usual I was LOLLing when I read this - you will know the bit that made me do

that!

 

I have one of those memory foam pillows that is designed to sort of hold you

better in place and support your neck better. Now the really odd thing is that

here I am sleeping on a mattress with springs [really bad I know but I'm still

hoping this is just a temporary thing] and I usually read for a bit before sleep

propped up on feather pillows. While I am doing that things aren't do bad on the

zzz zzz front. Then to sleep I take away the feather pillows and use the memory

foam one and what happens when I lie down? the zzz zzz zzz goes mad! I think it

must be something to do with my head being in closer contact with the mattress

and the springs at that stage - so to that extent maybe there is something in

the " lots of pillows " advice. It is all trial and error and experimentation.

 

All the best

 

Steph 

From: Jane Springs <chelatingblues>

Subject: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

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Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 20:54

 

 

EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems, such

as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health problems

can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some of the

top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic Fields to

provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

 

http://emfsensitivi ty.org/10ways. html

 

Best wishes,

Jane Springs

EMFSensitivity. org

 

P.S.    EMFSensitivity. org is looking for volunteers!  If you would like to

help us out, please contact us directly, by writing to admin@emfsensitivit y.org

 

 

 

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LOL I don't think I'd last much past take off - and they really don't like it if

you die on a plane!

From: ronsehs <rschranz@...>

Subject: Re: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

Date: Friday, 23 October, 2009, 1:32

 

Have you seen the latest about planes??

Free Wi-Fi In The Sky, Brought To You By Lexus

The industry leading Lexus LS Line will sponsor free inflight internet for all

American Airlines passengers on Wi-Fi equipped flights November 1-7, 2009.

I just got this news letter from American a/l & they will soon install Wi-Fi on

the planes. Can you imagine being in that cage for hours being radiated by wi-fi

on the entire trip.

I would be totally brain dead by the time we landed.

Ron S

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Diane

 

Can you imagine with the security levels being what they are now on planes that

they would even let you past the boarding gate with all that get up on???? LOL

You'd probably need a special dispensation from the State Governor or

something!!

 

I'm just visualising it now. but its not funny - say if you did need to travel

for any reason it is hugely restrictive and leaves you with your own car or a

pushbike to get from A to B on long distance. I had no idea about them using

pesticides on planes trains boats etc. I need to wake jup a bit.

 

Bw

 

Steph

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

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Date: Thursday, October 22, 2009, 5:02 PM

 

> The thought of airplane is terrifying. What if you start to have life

> threatening reactions & you are stuck up in the air? 

I was flying in airplanes when I was at my very worst. It was the

immediate environment around my seat that was the big problem,

not the plane itself. I was most bothered by the overhead

florescent lights and my neighbors " gadgets " (laptop, DVD player,

etc)

I once sat right next to one of the engines and noticed

nothing...

Marc

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In a message dated 24/10/2009 22:38:57 GMT Standard Time,

reader41@... writes:

Diane

Can you imagine with the security levels being what they are now on planes

that they would even let you past the boarding gate with all that get up

on???? LOL You'd probably need a special dispensation from the State

Governor or something!!

If you are Muslim you would be ok, just wear the whole gear with sheilding

built in.

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Not only are airline companies introducing wifi on planes for internet users,

but I also read a few weeks back in a science magazine that aeroplane

manufacturers are looking at ways to change the vast majority of their copper

wiring on their planes to wireless, to save them space/weight/money etc. They

already use some wireless connectivity, but from the article I read it won't be

long before much of technology on planes will be mostly dependent on wireless.

Actually, just found some of the article online here:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327245.300-flybywireless-set-for-takeoff\

..html?DCMP=OTC-rss & nsref=aviation#

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> The industry leading Lexus LS Line will sponsor free inflight internet for all

American Airlines passengers on Wi-Fi equipped flights November 1-7, 2009.

> I just got this news letter from American a/l & they will soon install Wi-Fi

on the planes. Can you imagine being in that cage for hours being radiated by

wi-fi on the entire trip.

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They won't stop until it kills us all!

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Subject: Re: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 9:16 AM

 

Not only are airline companies introducing wifi on planes for internet users,

but I also read a few weeks back in a science magazine that aeroplane

manufacturers are looking at ways to change the vast majority of their copper

wiring on their planes to wireless, to save them space/weight/ money etc. They

already use some wireless connectivity, but from the article I read it won't be

long before much of technology on planes will be mostly dependent on wireless.

Actually, just found some of the article online here:

http://www.newscien tist.com/ article/mg203272 45.300-flybywire less-set-

for-takeoff. html?DCMP= OTC-rss & nsref= aviation#

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American Airlines passengers on Wi-Fi equipped flights November 1-7, 2009.

> I just got this news letter from American a/l & they will soon install Wi-Fi

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Hi again, Steph,

 

I am not sure whether the increase in zzzzzzs is from the head coming closer in

contact or from the spine coming closer in contact or none of the above.  ;)  I

notice more from my spine, not that you might not differ where you notice it.  I

also can notice zzzzzzs upon sitting in certain situations, which makes me think

the spine is involved.  I cannot speak to the pillow thing, tho, since I don't

see a difference with gobs of pillows.  And I too can have this zzzzzs thing

while not in contact or near metal springs.  I can have it sitting on the ground

outside some places, laying on the floor on my side, or on my springless air

mattress (especially during and after a train goes by) or in high e-smog

situations.

 

If pillows help tho, go for it!  :)  If you get the uglies we won't notice!  ;)

 

Bless you, dear--you are one of the few who enjoys my bad sense of humor,

Diane

From: Jane Springs <chelatingblues>

Subject: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 20:54

 

 

EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems, such

as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health problems

can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some of the

top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic Fields to

provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

 

http://emfsensitivi ty.org/10ways. html

 

Best wishes,

Jane Springs

EMFSensitivity. org

 

P.S.    EMFSensitivity. org is looking for volunteers!  If you would like to

help us out, please contact us directly, by writing to admin@emfsensitivit y.org

 

 

 

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Hi Diane

 

You did it again - you made me LOL!!

 

Yes I too have noticed some of those things - like zzzz with a train going by -

or even a bus! and sometimes feel them in the beautiful country park where I

often go for some respite, which is a bit of a pity. They have these lovely

wooden bench seats in there so its not even the case that there is any metal

involved. I think you are right about the spine - it could be part of it and I

also think that what has happened - certainly to me- is that I am now sensitive

to vibrations in all their forms and some are more subtle than others. Something

though which I have found to be beneficial recently is that I changed my fish

oil supplement and have been taking a high dose of EPA  - with evening primrose

oil but no DHA in it and even tho it says you have to be in this dosage for 3

months before you notice any improvement, I think I am seeing some improvement

even after only a couple of weeks. The brand name is Vegepa made by a company

called Igennis in case

you are interested in it.

 

Take care

 

Steph

From: Jane Springs <chelatingblues>

Subject: 10 Ways to Save Your Life Using EMF Sensitivity

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, 21 October, 2009, 20:54

 

 

EMF sensitive individuals report significant and alarming health problems, such

as heart arrythmia, nerve pain, and merciless migraines. These health problems

can incapacitate individuals or make them unproductive. We review some of the

top techniques for quickly and immediately reducing ElectroMagnetic Fields to

provide immediate relief for discomfort and pain.

 

http://emfsensitivi ty.org/10ways. html

 

Best wishes,

Jane Springs

EMFSensitivity. org

 

P.S.    EMFSensitivity. org is looking for volunteers!  If you would like to

help us out, please contact us directly, by writing to admin@emfsensitivit y.org

 

 

 

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