Re: Anyone have trouble with GPS??

[Guest guest]

There are two types of GPS.

The one which only receives signals from the satellites and show you the roads

to follow.

But most types nowadays do have Bluetooth. They do send signals, and that is

very nasty.

So, probably your GPS had Bluetooth.

Recently I bought a new one, but had to look very hard in order to find one

without Bluetooth.

(I bought a Navigon.)

Greetings,

Claessens

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Anyone have trouble with GPS??

I became very sick the other night while sitting in someone's car for about an

hour. They turned off their cell phone before I got in the car, and I don't

know if I didn't wait long enough for the radiation to dissipate before getting

in or if possibly the GPS affected me (she turned the car on a couple times to

open/close the windows). I developed an excruciating frontal headache that is

going on two days now. Anyone had trouble with GPS??? I don't know anything

about it...

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

The TomTom SatNav I have has a 2.4GHz processor, an SD Card, a touch screen and

Bluetooth all of which produce emissions closeby. There are of course also the

receivers for the GPS signals which I believe are at 1.57542 GHz (L1 signal) and

1.2276 GHz (L2). Bluetooth can usually be permanently disabled in menus (It is

used to communicate with an in-car mobile/cellphone for live traffic updates via

the mobile network). I would expect other makes/models of GPS to be similar.

Cars also increasingly contain Bluetooth transmitters (under the dashboard) to

communicate with transponder enabled baby seats so that the air bag is disarmed

when a baby seat is present on the passenger side. Bluetooth may also be used to

communicate with key fob transponders.

Airbag systems also produce a 200Hz signal within vehicles when energised, that

is any time the ignition is on and the arming light (SRB?)has gone out.

Electrical noise or AC Ripple (Dirty Electricity) on the vehicle's 12vDC is

present any time the engine is running.

Electric motors for windows, door locks, sunroofs, fans, clutches, transmissions

and fan driven air-conditioning sensors (often near the head above the sun-visor

or mirror) stereo speakers, car radio, instruments etc. may also produce EHS

symptoms during operation. Solenoids, interrupt timers and relays in the car's

fusebox (generally on the passenger side) produce significant magnetic fields as

do wiper motors. Rotating tyres also produce oscillating magnetic fields any

time the vehicle is in motion. If petrol, suspect the coil and alternator when

the engine is running.

Please see

http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/sat-navs-for-ehs.html

Cars (and transport in general) for the EHS are all very complex and I am sorry

there is no straightforward answer to your question without measuring.

Petrol or diesel, mechanical fuel injection, etc. etc. old cars (without

airbags) are better tolerated.

You make an interesting point about the dissipation of the cellphone energy. Any

physisist will tell you that as soon as the cellphoe is off, the microwave radio

tranmissions cease. There are increasing anecdotal reports from EHS sufferers

that some people seem to absorb the electromagnetic energy all around them and

it takes some time for that to dissipate. So it could be you were reacting to a

form of re-radiated biological energy that came from your friend....

Elcectricforester

>

> There are two types of GPS.

>

> The one which only receives signals from the satellites and show you the roads

to follow.

>

> But most types nowadays do have Bluetooth. They do send signals, and that is

very nasty.

>

> So, probably your GPS had Bluetooth.

>

> Recently I bought a new one, but had to look very hard in order to find one

without Bluetooth.

> (I bought a Navigon.)

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton

>

> Anyone have trouble with GPS??

>

>

> I became very sick the other night while sitting in someone's car for about

an hour. They turned off their cell phone before I got in the car, and I don't

know if I didn't wait long enough for the radiation to dissipate before getting

in or if possibly the GPS affected me (she turned the car on a couple times to

open/close the windows). I developed an excruciating frontal headache that is

going on two days now. Anyone had trouble with GPS??? I don't know anything

about it...

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Those must be mainstream physicists who mistakenly believe that. Likely the same

misinformation that states that wireless radiation has no health effects. Yea,

right.

My theory? All forms of radiation have a half life. And anyone who thinks it

just " dissipates " is going to pay a precious price - if they haven't already.

Lizzie

From: electricforester@...

Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:25:43 +0000

Subject: Re: Anyone have trouble with GPS??

Hi ,

The TomTom SatNav I have has a 2.4GHz processor, an SD Card, a touch screen and

Bluetooth all of which produce emissions closeby. There are of course also the

receivers for the GPS signals which I believe are at 1.57542 GHz (L1 signal) and

1.2276 GHz (L2). Bluetooth can usually be permanently disabled in menus (It is

used to communicate with an in-car mobile/cellphone for live traffic updates via

the mobile network). I would expect other makes/models of GPS to be similar.

Cars also increasingly contain Bluetooth transmitters (under the dashboard) to

communicate with transponder enabled baby seats so that the air bag is disarmed

when a baby seat is present on the passenger side. Bluetooth may also be used to

communicate with key fob transponders.

Airbag systems also produce a 200Hz signal within vehicles when energised, that

is any time the ignition is on and the arming light (SRB?)has gone out.

Electrical noise or AC Ripple (Dirty Electricity) on the vehicle's 12vDC is

present any time the engine is running.

Electric motors for windows, door locks, sunroofs, fans, clutches, transmissions

and fan driven air-conditioning sensors (often near the head above the sun-visor

or mirror) stereo speakers, car radio, instruments etc. may also produce EHS

symptoms during operation. Solenoids, interrupt timers and relays in the car's

fusebox (generally on the passenger side) produce significant magnetic fields as

do wiper motors. Rotating tyres also produce oscillating magnetic fields any

time the vehicle is in motion. If petrol, suspect the coil and alternator when

the engine is running.

Please see

http://electricforester.blogspot.com/2010/12/sat-navs-for-ehs.html

Cars (and transport in general) for the EHS are all very complex and I am sorry

there is no straightforward answer to your question without measuring.

Petrol or diesel, mechanical fuel injection, etc. etc. old cars (without

airbags) are better tolerated.

You make an interesting point about the dissipation of the cellphone energy. Any

physisist will tell you that as soon as the cellphoe is off, the microwave radio

tranmissions cease. There are increasing anecdotal reports from EHS sufferers

that some people seem to absorb the electromagnetic energy all around them and

it takes some time for that to dissipate. So it could be you were reacting to a

form of re-radiated biological energy that came from your friend....

Elcectricforester

>

> There are two types of GPS.

>

> The one which only receives signals from the satellites and show you the roads

to follow.

>

> But most types nowadays do have Bluetooth. They do send signals, and that is

very nasty.

>

> So, probably your GPS had Bluetooth.

>

> Recently I bought a new one, but had to look very hard in order to find one

without Bluetooth.

> (I bought a Navigon.)

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton

>

> Anyone have trouble with GPS??

>

>

> I became very sick the other night while sitting in someone's car for about an

hour. They turned off their cell phone before I got in the car, and I don't know

if I didn't wait long enough for the radiation to dissipate before getting in or

if possibly the GPS affected me (she turned the car on a couple times to

open/close the windows). I developed an excruciating frontal headache that is

going on two days now. Anyone had trouble with GPS??? I don't know anything

about it...

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hearing wirless?

http://www.es-uk.info/forums/thread.asp?threadID=532

[Guest guest]

HI ,

 

I hear that if people get sick from cell phone and wifi that they should get

sick from GPS.  Right now, I am wearing a Soft n Safe (I think that's what it's

called)make shift shawl from Lessemf.  The fabric and a cap I got from them

last fall has given me a new lease on life.

 

I walk around the streets, go to my job (at a hospital), and wear it wrapped

around me as best as I can at home.  It is the only thing that has seemed to

allow me to be within short ranges of cell phone and to be in a car with GPS for

over an hour as well as drive for an hour and a half in a car with 3 live cell

phones and survive.  I wore it on a train commute to DE about 61/2 hours last

April and for the first time in three years, I did not feel so disturbed, but in

control again.  I am current having my first garment designed and I will be

wearing and testing these fabrics to see how good it can get. 

 

If you're prone to headaches, I definitely recommend a shielding hat or

scarf. I even sleep in my cap. I have to fold the regular fabric to get a

real sense of protection.  I find that you should test what works for you.  I

don't know what the long term side effects may be from wearing conductive

fabric, but for now I'll deal with the presumed consequences, just like people

frying their brains and bodies with cell phones take their chances.  Good

luck.  By the way do you get sick from geopathic stress?

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Subject: Anyone have trouble with GPS??

Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 9:38 AM

 

I became very sick the other night while sitting in someone's car for about an

hour. They turned off their cell phone before I got in the car, and I don't know

if I didn't wait long enough for the radiation to dissipate before getting in or

if possibly the GPS affected me (she turned the car on a couple times to

open/close the windows). I developed an excruciating frontal headache that is

going on two days now. Anyone had trouble with GPS??? I don't know anything

about it...

Thanks,