Re: new to group, grounding apparatus

[Guest guest]

> I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

> current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match

> outside of Berkeley.

You could try a couple of the 3-outlet " wall warts " sold at

Quantum Products ($29 each):

http://quantumproducts.com/catalog/quantum_power.html

I find that even one of these plugged in near my bed helps

me sleep better. The company treats these in such

a way (magnetically? or something) that makes these have

qualities that the ones sold in the hardware store do not

have (even though they may look the same). I hesitate

to recommend the more expensive 5-outlet and 7-outlet

versions, as we've had a complaint here about the offgassing

on those particular models.

Of course, there are lots of much more expensive things

that one can try, but if you are homeless, I'm assuming

you don't have much of a budget to work with.

(also, if you having trouble sleeping, are you sleeping

on a mattress with metal springs in it? You may have

better luck sleeping on something without so much metal

in it, like a futon, a couch, a latex mattress, etc.)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

Your story just reminds me on how ridiculous these smart meters are... hope you

find a healthy house for you soon.

There was a post here last week on housing/community specifically for " sensitive

people " :

http://reshelter.org/

Anyway, I think things that may make a quick difference without the risk of

getting worse... euh sorry I have only a few:

-turn off the fuse box at night (and you may even save a buck in doing so!)

-turn off your neighbour's wifi and dect phone

-like Marc suggested, getting rid of your mattress if it has got metal springs…

You could try " thingies " , most of them could work for you, but mostly with and

not without! side effects:

-Qlink

-Quantum (Marc's previous post)

-Bioprotect card

-filters

-shield your windows with mosquito net (less risky then alu-foil, but this may

still have side effects because of reflection…)

-… other crazy stuff ;-)

You can find a lot of info here on , just by searching in older messages on

specific keywords.

Quite important is to check minerals, esp magnesium, potassium, calcium,

sodium,… I've been temporarily even more sensitive when I was very low on

minerals...

About the GROUNDING BAND. Well it's on top of my list too!

had good result with grounding her bed (or was it because of a different

mattress?):

/message/18629

did not, but this may be caused by a " dirty " grounding outlet?

/message/12344

Ian positive about the grounded metal blanket under his bed:

/message/11074

Lily/Latifah heard a lot of good results of people (not on ) using an

expensive bed pad made out of carbon (+ grounded).

I have tried a carbon t-shirt. Carbon should lower your body voltage somehow.

For me it seems to work the first 30 minutes, but after one hour it seems to get

me worse. Today I've worn it 6 hours (under my shirt) and after 2 hours I was

getting suffocated in that carbon t-shirt! I was at a family gathering otherwise

I would've gotten rid of that t-shirt much faster! In the future I may wear the

t-shirt one hour before going to bed, so my " body voltage " lowers a bit...

Me I'm not sure about bed pads made of metal/carbon for sleeping… There are

always side effects when working with metal…

I will try sleeping with a grounding band linked to my ankle or somewhere linked

with my body… Kinda like you suggested? That must be a good thing I think,

definitely if you ground it when put one meter in the ground. If you can't do

that I'm not so sure about a grounding outlet, because then you'd have to make

sure there is no dirty emf…

.

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes for

the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple Chemical

Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become apparent that

I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in Berkeley. I

can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night when I'm in

bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and remember, whenever

I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and despairing. I've

been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they have not yet

installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and radio towers is

less.

>

> I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my current

place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of Berkeley.

>

> On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on it),

there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into a

grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away the

electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

>

> Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation would

be much appreciated.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Marc and . That's brilliant, about the metal springs in the

mattress. That had not occurred to me yet. This is a furnished temporary room,

though. But I will remember that for all future bedrooms.

That is interesting, about side effects when using metal. I would like to hear

more about that. I will try to surf the archives, but I can't spend much time

in front of the computer.

Please let me know, if you try the grounding bands, .

What I'd most like to hear, is if people have had success with these products,

before I buy them. Thank you for the messages about bed grounding. I will look

at them.

Does anyone have experience with the expensive bed canopies that you hang around

your bed?

I bought a $7.49 gadget today, to see if my outlets were grounded. They are

not. So I'd have to put a metal rod in the ground outside. It would be about

40-50 feet of wire, to do so!

Well, I'm wiped out, but wanted to thank you for the kind responses.

-Sue

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> >

> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my current

place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of Berkeley.

> >

> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on it),

there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into a

grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away the

electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> >

> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation would

be much appreciated.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

About the grounding rod of 40-50 feet, I don't know whether that's too long.

Would the grounding rod become sth of an antenna?

About side effects when using metal. Well it's quite complicated!

I think:

Metal reflects and changes the properties of emf and cosmic rays.

If you're in a Faraday cage (one metal box):

-the properties of the harmful longitudinal emf waves are changed a bit which

makes them less harmful: this is why it is still used by a lot of people to

protect them from emf (in very sensitive days, I felt relief when laying under

some kind of metal sheet for one hour or so)

-but the metal also changes/reflects the cosmic rays

Cosmic rays come from earth, sun and planets.

Cosmic rays seem to be important for health. That's why some people get sick in

high appartment blocks (building sick syndrome: too little cosmic rays coming

from the earth)

In my house there was alu-foil in the insulation of the ceiling. It made me sick

because it messes with the cosmic rays...

Metal also acts as sth of an antenna, which is no good either...

Hope this clarifies a bit, some smart researchers could probably write a lot of

interesting books on this topic ;-)

.

> > >

> > > Dear Group,

> > >

> > > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> > >

> > > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my current

place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of Berkeley.

> > >

> > > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on

it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into

a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away

the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> > >

> > > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

would be much appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thank you,

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> That is interesting, about side effects when using metal. I would like

> to hear more about that.

Several people have noticed they do better when not wearing or being

too close to metal. So pay attention to eyeglasses, jewelry, belt

buckles, underwire bras, watches, etc. etc.

> I bought a $7.49 gadget today, to see if my outlets were grounded.

None of your outlets in the house you are in are grounded? That might

be half your problem right there...

Marc

[Guest guest]

Against cell phone/radio towers, one relatively inexpensive solution for

a temporary solution is:

http://www.uline.com/BL_54/Static-Shielding-Rolls

Using just Staples 3M poster tape, you can very quickly install it as

temporary wallpaper. Sometimes it falls off after a while, but then I

just reapply more poster tape. Caveat is the appearance. When I put it

up in my room, I have each subsequent piece overlap the previous one by

about 3 inches. Any gap could be the weakest link that potentially

invalidates the whole thing.

Note that it works by reflection of the wireless radiation, so you have

to put it in the right place so that it will actually reflect it away

from you rather than toward you. I would recommend using a meter to

test its effectiveness (e.g., Cornet from lessemf.com). Good thing is

that it's temporary, so if you make a mistake, or if a neighbor moves in

on the other side with wireless radiation, you can take it down.

When I travel and stay in hotels, however, I use silver nylon shielding

cloth instead (shieldextrading.net), to very quickly attach to curtains

with a plastic clip. Sometimes it helps, if the only source is from

outside the building, but if there's indoor Wi-Fi also, then I may need

an enclosure with 4 sides... This is more expensive, but easier to set

up and pack into my luggage. Sometimes, it's too strong in the hotel,

and this isn't good enough. However, if you get the room furthest away

from the Wi-Fi routers, e.g., at the center between 2 of them, it can be

low enough that the shielding helps.

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary

homes for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to

Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It

has become apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to

electrosmog, as I stay in Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields

coursing through my body all night when I'm in bed, and they severely

disrupt my ability to concentrate and remember, whenever I am at home.

I feel very agitated and often distraught and despairing. I've been

trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they have not yet

installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and radio

towers is less.

>

> I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match

outside of Berkeley.

>

> On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working

on it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and

plug into a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful?

Would it take away the electricity coursing through my body every night

while I sleep?

>

> Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

would be much appreciated.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure if someone already mentioned this one... In the bedroom, remove

mirrors because radiation can hit them and reflect back onto you.

If you can turn off the circuitbreakers to the bedroom at night, it's also a

good idea to turn off the circuitbreakers to whichever other rooms are behind or

near your sleeping head/body.

I found that it's not a good idea to use shielding fabric or cage close to where

you're sleeping if you canNOT turn the electricity to the bedroom off at night.

I think the electricity can turn the fabric into a nasty magnetic field.

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary

> homes for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to

> Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It

> has become apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to

> electrosmog, as I stay in Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields

> coursing through my body all night when I'm in bed, and they severely

> disrupt my ability to concentrate and remember, whenever I am at home.

> I feel very agitated and often distraught and despairing. I've been

> trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they have not yet

> installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and radio

> towers is less.

> >

> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

> current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match

> outside of Berkeley.

> >

> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working

> on it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and

> plug into a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful?

> Would it take away the electricity coursing through my body every night

> while I sleep?

> >

> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

> would be much appreciated.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh well that's good to know! I've added the books on my to-read-list!

Could you advise me a specialist here in Belgium/Netherlands who could check and

improve my house for grounding, electric wiring,...

I live 30 minutes away from Gent,

thanks,

gr,

.

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> >

> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my current

place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of Berkeley.

> >

> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on it),

there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into a

grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away the

electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> >

> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation would

be much appreciated.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

,

I understand there are places that have their powerlines underground, for

aesthetic reasons, I would imagine -- is this the underground electricity that

you are referring to? If so, it makes me sad. That's really tampering with the

earth's healing energy fields.

Group,

I think all the electrosmog above ground is tampering with our abilities to

connect with each other and the earth and the animals, etc. I think people with

psychic ability may notice this even more. There's a book about psychic ability

and electrical fields which I'm intending to read.

-Sue

> >

> > Dear Group,

> >

> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> >

> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my current

place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of Berkeley.

> >

> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on it),

there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into a

grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away the

electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> >

> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation would

be much appreciated.

> >

> > Thank you,

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

I could.

You overlooked the fact that I also do have a belgian website:

www.milieuziektes.be

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.minderstraling.nl

www.hetbitje.nl

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Re: new to group, grounding apparatus

> Oh well that's good to know! I've added the books on my to-read-list!

>

> Could you advise me a specialist here in Belgium/Netherlands who could check

and improve my house for grounding, electric wiring,...

>

> I live 30 minutes away from Gent,

>

> thanks,

> gr,

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>> >

>> > Dear Group,

>> >

>> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

>> >

>> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my current

place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of Berkeley.

>> >

>> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on

it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into

a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away

the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

>> >

>> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

would be much appreciated.

>> >

>> > Thank you,

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Sue,

no it is not the powerlines underground.

Those cables are normally very good insulated.

I mean the normal electricity, where you have a phase (+) and a neutral (-).

In the USA 70 % of this neutral goed back to the powerstation, not by cables,

but through the ground.

That way you may have a lot of stray currents, which a grounding rod may pick

up, and bringe those unwanted back into the house.

Most electrosensitives do have some psychic abilities.

They are paranormal; they *see* things, they *know* things.

it is because of their sensibilty, that other properties are refind also.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton

Re: new to group, grounding apparatus

> ,

>

> I understand there are places that have their powerlines underground, for

aesthetic reasons, I would imagine -- is this the underground electricity that

you are referring to? If so, it makes me sad. That's really tampering with the

earth's healing energy fields.

>

> Group,

>

> I think all the electrosmog above ground is tampering with our abilities to

connect with each other and the earth and the animals, etc. I think people with

psychic ability may notice this even more. There's a book about psychic ability

and electrical fields which I'm intending to read.

>

> -Sue

>

>

>

>

>> >

>> > Dear Group,

>> >

>> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

>> >

>> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my current

place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of Berkeley.

>> >

>> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on

it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into

a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away

the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

>> >

>> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

would be much appreciated.

>> >

>> > Thank you,

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Books,

I order many books at amazon.

They also have secondhand books at very low prices.

And in mint condition.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton

Re: new to group, grounding apparatus

> Oh well that's good to know! I've added the books on my to-read-list!

>

> Could you advise me a specialist here in Belgium/Netherlands who could check

and improve my house for grounding, electric wiring,...

>

> I live 30 minutes away from Gent,

>

> thanks,

> gr,

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>> >

>> > Dear Group,

>> >

>> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

>> >

>> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my current

place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of Berkeley.

>> >

>> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on

it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into

a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away

the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

>> >

>> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

would be much appreciated.

>> >

>> > Thank you,

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

thank you, , fascinating (and disturbing?)

why does't the neutral go back via the earth, in other countries?

I'm not surprised, about the psychic abilities (Sobonfu Some, a woman raised in

a village in Africa who teaches about her culture in America, thinks that modern

technology and chemical toxins are destroying the " shamans " of the earth -- the

people who have particular sensitivities/refined abilities in this way...)

-Sue

> >> >

> >> > Dear Group,

> >> >

> >> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> >> >

> >> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of

Berkeley.

> >> >

> >> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on

it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into

a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away

the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> >> >

> >> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

would be much appreciated.

> >> >

> >> > Thank you,

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

Because I cannot find long-term safe housing, I move a lot, from one temporary

place to the next.

I have been referred to the book Earthing, which is the book behind the company

Barefoot Connections, which sells the products to ground the body. The book

itself highly recommends walking barefoot on the earth, to align with the

earth's electrical fields. I am wondering, given 's information about

stray currents in the ground, how one would know, when one was walking barefoot,

whether the earth had harmful stray currents where one was walking. Are there

certain areas where harmful currents are more likely to be found? Could one use

a body voltage meter, to determine whether the ground one was walking on was

safe and beneficial, eletrically? Finally, is there a meter one could buy, so

that one could determine for oneself, whether a grounding rod planted in the

ground was not bringing dirty currents into the house? I have a Tri-Field Meter

and an RF Meter. I move a lot, and I can't afford electricians. I was hoping I

could learn myself, how to measure these things. Can anyone recommend a book

about grounding basics that includes information about this issue specifically?

Would the 2 books recommended by be most helpful?

Thank you for any recommendations.

-Sue

> >> >

> >> > Dear Group,

> >> >

> >> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> >> >

> >> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of

Berkeley.

> >> >

> >> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on

it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into

a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away

the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> >> >

> >> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

would be much appreciated.

> >> >

> >> > Thank you,

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Sue, about barefoot walking in your house, I think:

-no heating installed in the floor

-cork is great I think for a lot of reasons

-wooden floor or tiles must be good (although I should watch out with chemicals

to treat the floor with if you're so sensitive)

-carpets are not so good emf-wise (and for allergies)

Will you go barefoot walking in the streets too? Good luck!

I would say if you're walking in the woods, mostly there won't be so much

electricity in the ground, or this all depends?!

I have checked the house that I'm renting here for geopathic stress lines. It

seems important you don't put your bed on top of a geopathic stress line. You

have to pay sb to do that or you'll have to take a lot of lessons.

About the grounding rod: I don't know either how to measure the dirty

electricity... I'll know more in one month...

gr,

.

> > >> >

> > >> > Dear Group,

> > >> >

> > >> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary

homes for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> > >> >

> > >> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of

Berkeley.

> > >> >

> > >> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on

it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into

a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away

the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> > >> >

> > >> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

would be much appreciated.

> > >> >

> > >> > Thank you,

> > >> >

> > >> >

> > >> >

[Guest guest]

,

I understand wood is not a conductor, so walking barefoot in one's house

wouldn't help much?

I did walk barefoot in the park yesterday (dirt and grass). I didn't notice a

lot while I was doing it, though I remember thinking I felt calm, and I remember

shivers going up my spine and in my brain a bit. But as soon as I put my

sneakers back on, and walked home on the sidewalks, my brain inflammation seemed

to suddenly appear again, and my overwhelming sense of agitation and tension

seemed to begin again. So, maybe grounding myself on the earth did really help.

I have more experimenting to do.

Let me know when you start learning the science of grounding rods better...

All best,

Sue

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Dear Group,

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary

homes for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of

Berkeley.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working

on it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug

into a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take

away the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish

situation would be much appreciated.

> > > >> >

> > > >> > Thank you,

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

> > > >> >

[Guest guest]

> I did walk barefoot in the park yesterday (dirt and grass). I didn't

> notice a lot while I was doing it

Yes, I'm not sure you're going to find much of a " solution " in

walking barefoot or grounding. It might make some minor

improvements, but I doubt it will make much of a difference

in what EMF environments you can tolerate.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Barefoot walking: Yes, outdoor the grounding effect must be higher than indoor.

But indoor walking without shoes also seems better (to me) for grounding than

with shoes... Even if you're on the 22nd floor...

There's probably also a difference in what kind of shoes/sneakers, leather or

plastic soles...

gr,

.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Dear Group,

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary

homes for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of

Berkeley.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is

working on it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and

plug into a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it

take away the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish

situation would be much appreciated.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Thank you,

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> >

[Guest guest]

Barefoot walking, the reason why you feel better may be the grounding effect but

also the pressure on your feet = many acupuncture points...

Paleolithic is the way to go ;-)

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Dear Group,

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary

homes for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of

Berkeley.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is

working on it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and

plug into a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it

take away the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish

situation would be much appreciated.

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> > Thank you,

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> >

> > > > >> >

[Guest guest]

I only felt better while doing it. I am curious to try a grounding bed sheet.

I'd love to feel better all night long. (There are people with EHS in the

Earthing book who say they were fairly cured by using one.) I'm still reading

the book to understand the technology. -Sue

>

> > I did walk barefoot in the park yesterday (dirt and grass). I didn't

> > notice a lot while I was doing it

>

> Yes, I'm not sure you're going to find much of a " solution " in

> walking barefoot or grounding. It might make some minor

> improvements, but I doubt it will make much of a difference

> in what EMF environments you can tolerate.

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

) that made me laugh

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Dear Group,

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in

temporary homes for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due

to Multiple Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has

become apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I

stay in Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all

night when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make

my current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of

Berkeley.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is

working on it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and

plug into a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it

take away the electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish

situation would be much appreciated.

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> > Thank you,

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> >

> > > > > >> >

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I bought a $7.49 gadget today, to see if my outlets were grounded. They are

not. So I'd have to put a metal rod in the ground outside. It would be about

40-50 feet of wire, to do so!

>

> >

> -Sue

>

>

---------

Hi Sue - may I ask what type of gadget you bought to test whether or not your

outlets were grounded, and where I could purchase one? Thanks,

~Svetaswan

[Guest guest]

Svetaswan,

It's a little black plastic gadget called an " Outlet Tester, " with 3 prongs that

you plug into an outlet, and there are different colored lights that come on (1

red, 2 yellow), depending on the status of the outlet. You use a simple

color-coded key to interpret the light pattern (open ground, open neutral, open

hot, hot/grd rev, hot/neu rev, correct). I couldn't find any correct outlets in

my home (it's an old home).

Best,

Sue

> >

>

> >

> > I bought a $7.49 gadget today, to see if my outlets were grounded. They are

not. So I'd have to put a metal rod in the ground outside. It would be about

40-50 feet of wire, to do so!

> >

> > >

> > -Sue

> >

> >

>

> ---------

>

> Hi Sue - may I ask what type of gadget you bought to test whether or not your

outlets were grounded, and where I could purchase one? Thanks,

>

> ~Svetaswan

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sue - it seems that I found a couple of these type of devices on

amazon.com. I know that you said that you can easily find them in hardware

stores, but the convenience of amazon.com beats going into a store to try to

search for these items, only to have employees act like you're there to

shoplift.

~Svetaswan

> > >

> >

> > >

> > > I bought a $7.49 gadget today, to see if my outlets were grounded. They

are not. So I'd have to put a metal rod in the ground outside. It would be

about 40-50 feet of wire, to do so!

> > >

> > > >

> > > -Sue

> > >

> > >

> >

> > ---------

> >

> > Hi Sue - may I ask what type of gadget you bought to test whether or not

your outlets were grounded, and where I could purchase one? Thanks,

> >

> > ~Svetaswan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Sue,

 

Welcome to the forum!   You ask whether there are bad earth currents and good

earth currents (in essence that was what you were asking).  Yes, the currents

which are natural to the earth are different than returning stray electrical

current we can sometimes react to in the earth (dirt/ground). 

 

You ask whether one can tell if the ground/earth/dirt is healthful or full of

stray currents...   Yes, I can  tell the difference.  I think it probably

takes some experience to recognise how to do this, but you can tell if you sit

or walk barefoot and you feel a release of bad energy or, conversely, a

build-up of aberrant energy in your body. 

 

When I " ground " myself/my body (ie: cause the bad energies to drain away), I

choose a place which is not likely to give me stray currents--in the forest,

next to huge bodies of water, and not in the path between the nearest electrical

substation and a residential housing area or commercial area.  It is not

that there cannot be stray currents in a forest or near a large body of water,

it is that the trees and water are more attractive destinations to the

electrical currents than I am.  That said, once I start " grounding "

myself--sitting or walking barefoot or in conductive shoes, I notice how I

feel after about 20 minutes.  Am I feeling stressed/distressed or am I

starting to feel like I am draining away excess stress?  If the latter, I

stay.  If the former, I move to a new location.  After 40 or 50 minutes of

" grounding " , you should have a rejuvenated feeling.  A feeling of relief.  You

might be very tired, but it will feel like

a  " relaxed " tired, not a " wired " tired.  You will be able to breathe easier,

you will feel lighter....

 

Sorry I don't know, off-hand, of books on " grounding " yourself.  I shared a

book here some years ago about trees which had a bit on the subject.  Also,

the book, " Energy Medicine " (the yellow one) by Donna Eden, discusses

" grounding " your body.  It is a great book to read tho for all the exercises it

explains--how to clear the meridians, expand the aura, etc, etc.  Very little

of it is directly about " grounding " the body; however, the entire book is

related to it.  The book is about maximizing your electrical system in your

body, so that you feel better and have more energy.

 

Also, I am not sure whether you are talking about 2 different subjects--how to

" ground " the body and how to " ground " your surroundings, so your body does not

pick up stray currents from your atmosphere.  These are totally different

concepts.  There are many books on that subject, also.  I have a couple books

on that, but unfortunately they are at my other house, so I cannot tell you

the names.  I will try to remember to get that info when I go there tomorrow. 

I have been dealing with that at our other house which we are rehabbing. 

That is a very complicated subject and has many avenues of remediation. 

 

Good luck; I hope I have answered your questions in an understandable way.

Diane/Evie 

From: lolahunt3 <marydelamer@...>

Subject: Re: new to group, grounding apparatus

Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 9:09 PM

 

Dear Group,

Because I cannot find long-term safe housing, I move a lot, from one temporary

place to the next.

I have been referred to the book Earthing, which is the book behind the company

Barefoot Connections, which sells the products to ground the body. The book

itself highly recommends walking barefoot on the earth, to align with the

earth's electrical fields. I am wondering, given 's information about

stray currents in the ground, how one would know, when one was walking barefoot,

whether the earth had harmful stray currents where one was walking. Are there

certain areas where harmful currents are more likely to be found? Could one use

a body voltage meter, to determine whether the ground one was walking on was

safe and beneficial, eletrically? Finally, is there a meter one could buy, so

that one could determine for oneself, whether a grounding rod planted in the

ground was not bringing dirty currents into the house? I have a Tri-Field Meter

and an RF Meter. I move a lot, and I can't afford electricians. I was hoping I

could learn myself, how to

measure these things. Can anyone recommend a book about grounding basics that

includes information about this issue specifically? Would the 2 books

recommended by be most helpful?

Thank you for any recommendations.

-Sue

> >> >

> >> > Dear Group,

> >> >

> >> > I am living in Berkeley, CA, where I have been staying in temporary homes

for the past 3.5 months. I have been homeless for 3 years due to Multiple

Chemical Sensitivities (I cannot find safe enough housing). It has become

apparent that I am getting more and more sensitive to electrosmog, as I stay in

Berkeley. I can feel the electrical fields coursing through my body all night

when I'm in bed, and they severely disrupt my ability to concentrate and

remember, whenever I am at home. I feel very agitated and often distraught and

despairing. I've been trying very hard to move back to Marin County, where they

have not yet installed Smart Meters, and where the density of cell phone and

radio towers is less.

> >> >

> >> > I'm writing to ask if others can recommend ways that I can make my

current place more live-able, while I wait to find a housing match outside of

Berkeley.

> >> >

> >> > On earthing.com (the website is down right now; the owner is working on

it), there are grounding bands that you can wear around your body and plug into

a grounded outlet? Have people found those to be useful? Would it take away the

electricity coursing through my body every night while I sleep?

> >> >

> >> > Any other recommendations for how to ameliorate this hellish situation

would be much appreciated.

> >> >

> >> > Thank you,

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >