Smart Meters

[Guest guest]

Mariland has banned them?  I was told that a town in northern Cali did also. I

will have to look in to. Thanks, Loni

From: PickPinkFlowers <haggisisscotsfood@...>

Subject: Smart Meters

Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 12:04 PM

 

           I have an alternative doc friend who has already begun

getting calls from people who are being made sick by Smart Meters. 

 

           There is an article about them in the newsletter Our Toxic

Times.  Published by the Chemical Injury Information Network.  www.ciin.org, I

think it is.  You might give them a call for more information. I believe that

article said that the State of MD is the only one that has banned them.  We

might have to move there!   Josie

[Guest guest]

I don't think MD banned them. I think you read it incorrectly. I couldn't find

anything online about that?  Loni

From: PickPinkFlowers <haggisisscotsfood@...>

Subject: Smart Meters

Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 12:04 PM

 

           I have an alternative doc friend who has already begun

getting calls from people who are being made sick by Smart Meters. 

 

           There is an article about them in the newsletter Our Toxic

Times.  Published by the Chemical Injury Information Network.  www.ciin.org, I

think it is.  You might give them a call for more information. I believe that

article said that the State of MD is the only one that has banned them.  We

might have to move there!   Josie

[Guest guest]

I told them I was ill since thew day they were installed. He said it couldnt be

from the meters because they only operate a few minutes a day. I dont believe

him. I emailed them first but it was a form letter and when they replied they

erased my original content. I guess it was on purpose.

>

>    You need to get everything in writing, if you plan to sue or get involved

in a lawsuit. 

> Customer no-service reps with utility companies can falsify records and deny

what they said or what you said. 

>    When you called, did you make it clear that you have medical reasons for

needing the meter removed?   Did you say it was harming your health?  If so, and

they refused to remove it, then I would get that in writing and go to a doctor

who will write a letter for you.

>     I think people are going to have to begin class action lawsuits to get the

utility companies to stop trying to strong arm people into accepting the

meters.  . Josie

>   

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I told them I was ill since thew day they were installed. He said it

> couldnt be from the meters because they only operate a few minutes a day.

From that website I mentioned, it sounds like the smart meters emit

12,000 RF pulses per day. Combine that with all of your neighbors

smart meters, and that means you are being constantly bombarded 24/7.

Unless that 12,000 number is incorrect?

Marc

[Guest guest]

A lot of the reps for the utility don't understand how these work. They are bad

news & utility cos have liability & it is big money. Hard one Steve. I can

forward you some info on them.  Loni

From: torch369 <torch369@...>

Subject: Re: Smart Meters

Date: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 7:51 AM

 

I told them I was ill since thew day they were installed. He said it couldnt be

from the meters because they only operate a few minutes a day. I dont believe

him. I emailed them first but it was a form letter and when they replied they

erased my original content. I guess it was on purpose.

>

>    You need to get everything in writing, if you plan to sue or get involved

in a lawsuit. 

> Customer no-service reps with utility companies can falsify records and deny

what they said or what you said. 

>    When you called, did you make it clear that you have medical reasons for

needing the meter removed?   Did you say it was harming your health?  If so,

and they refused to remove it, then I would get that in writing and go to a

doctor who will write a letter for you.

>     I think people are going to have to begin class action lawsuits to get

the utility companies to stop trying to strong arm people into accepting the

meters.  . Josie

>   

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ours is every 30 seconds which is 2880 a day. There are two just for

my water meter (5760 per 24 hours) and then I have about 60 houses

around me within a 1/4 mile (345,600 pulses per day).

Could be more.

On Oct 30, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Marc wrote:

>> I told them I was ill since thew day they were installed. He said it

>> couldnt be from the meters because they only operate a few minutes

>> a day.

>

> From that website I mentioned, it sounds like the smart meters emit

> 12,000 RF pulses per day. Combine that with all of your neighbors

> smart meters, and that means you are being constantly bombarded 24/7.

>

> Unless that 12,000 number is incorrect?

>

> Marc

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I hope it's incorrect. It would be nice if they just sent out a pulse once a

month to read the meter and that was it, but they are checking usage daily. I

can't imagine that getting a pulse once a day would do much for them so I think

that guy blatantly lied to me.

>

> > I told them I was ill since thew day they were installed. He said it

> > couldnt be from the meters because they only operate a few minutes a day.

>

> From that website I mentioned, it sounds like the smart meters emit

> 12,000 RF pulses per day. Combine that with all of your neighbors

> smart meters, and that means you are being constantly bombarded 24/7.

>

> Unless that 12,000 number is incorrect?

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

That is just plain scary

>

> >> I told them I was ill since thew day they were installed. He said it

> >> couldnt be from the meters because they only operate a few minutes

> >> a day.

> >

> > From that website I mentioned, it sounds like the smart meters emit

> > 12,000 RF pulses per day. Combine that with all of your neighbors

> > smart meters, and that means you are being constantly bombarded 24/7.

> >

> > Unless that 12,000 number is incorrect?

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

OK, thanks Loni.

> >

> >    You need to get everything in writing, if you plan to sue or get

involved in a lawsuit. 

> > Customer no-service reps with utility companies can falsify records and deny

what they said or what you said. 

> >    When you called, did you make it clear that you have medical reasons

for needing the meter removed?   Did you say it was harming your health?  If

so, and they refused to remove it, then I would get that in writing and go to a

doctor who will write a letter for you.

> >     I think people are going to have to begin class action lawsuits to

get the utility companies to stop trying to strong arm people into accepting the

meters.  . Josie

> >   

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> I hope it's incorrect. It would be nice if they just sent out a pulse

> once a month to read the meter and that was it, but they are checking

> usage daily. I can't imagine that getting a pulse once a day would do

> much for them so I think that guy blatantly lied to me.

I agree -- if it was just pulsing once per day, then it probably

wouldn't be causing anyone any problems.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Somebody suggested getting a " prepaid " meter.

I don't know anything about this, but if you do a Google search for " prepaid

electric meter " you come up with a few suppliers.

Maybe your local utility company can be coaxed into letting you have one hooked

up. If they won't do it, an electrician might.

L.

>

> > I hope it's incorrect. It would be nice if they just sent out a pulse

> > once a month to read the meter and that was it, but they are checking

> > usage daily. I can't imagine that getting a pulse once a day would do

> > much for them so I think that guy blatantly lied to me.

>

> I agree -- if it was just pulsing once per day, then it probably

> wouldn't be causing anyone any problems.

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

These guys are doing well on the fight against wireless meters.

http://stopsmartmeters.wordpress.com/    Best Giles

[Guest guest]

 

FYI: Spreading Awareness

 

This was posted on Craigslist here in in Phoenix. I am trying to reach this

individual. Loni

 

 

HUMAN GUINNEA PIGS SMART METERS PHOENIX

 

This posting is to advise the citizens of Arizona that there have been no

studies conducted as to the health and safety issues to human and animal life

prior to installation deployment of APS Smart Meters. Across the nation people

are protesting their installation because where they have been installed, people

have reported many health problems with the source being from the smart meter.

Call to complain to APS they will tell you you must have the smart meter

installed or you will have no electricity. Call to complain to the governors

office and they will connect you with the Attorney General's office who will

refer you to the Arizona Corporation Commission who will take your complaint and

forward it to APS. I urge you to call for yourself and see - ask the Arizona

Corporation commission if there have been any tests or studies conducted to

assure these devices are safe to install on the walls of our homes. I was told

" No, there have been no such

studies. " I inquired, " Then we are being used as guinea pigs? " The reply was

answered with a question " I don't know, are you being used as guinea pigs? "

Appalled, I hung up and ask to speak to that person's supervisor. She said she

did not know if there had been any studies conducted as to whether or not the

smart meters were safe for humans and she would look into the matter and get

back with me. That was yesterday morning. Yesterday afternoon I followed up with

another question (to her voice mail as she did not answer) " Why would the AZCC

allow the installation of the smart meter without first testing it's safety to

human health? " Look on the internet to see the many reports of fires and

negative health affects the smart meter has had to people who have already

suffered various health problems and that installations were stopped in

communities that have suffered the negative consequences from the smart meter.

Call the AZCC and ask them for yourself.

We are being used as guinea pigs. They all have the initial same response -

" Your cell phone transmits the same harmful carcinogens as the smart meter. "

Yes, but we have the choice as to buying or not buying a cell phone, we have a

choice how often we want to use that cell phone, and we have the choice where we

want to keep the cell phone in relation to proximity to our body. We are not

being given a choice with the smart meter. It is mandatory...as in communist.

[Guest guest]

Yes, this is an EXTREMELY dangerous program for people with Electrical

Sensitivity. In fact, I signed up for this group because of my sudden health

problems (along with some of my animals)that started THE DAY they installed the

meter. I discovered my sensitivity to Radio Frequency several years ago when I

stupidly installed a DECT phone system in my business. I have owned a Natural

Foods Store for 25 years and am used to solving my health problems naturally but

my symptoms were so bizzare that I was completely baffled. I was having extreme

bradycardia (low pulse rate) in the low 40's, extreme exhaustion, extremely hot

and DARK grey feet. It was a very scary prospect each night when I would lay

down to go to sleep because as I would begin to fall asleep it felt like my

heart would stop beating all together! Each beat would be a loud thud that

would reverberate through my body. After finally discovering what was going on

and getting rid the phone system I got a lot better but still remained sensitive

to other wireless devices surrounding me at work so I decided to start working

from home so that I could control my exposure to RF. After doing so my health

returned and was back to my normal 100% HEALTHY & ENERGETIC self again. That

all changed the day they installed the new meter. Again, it took me a couple of

weeks to put it all together since I had no idea that they were utilizing RF for

these meters until I did some digging around on the internet. Now, I'm on a

mission to find some solutions. My head is spinning as I write but I am

determined to find some answers and regain my health. As a side note, I have

also had a very large increase in bizzare symptoms in my customers and

employees. Rashes, elevated BP, shingles, bleeding nose, uncontrolable anger -

and these people have been my customers for many years! I know their health

issues very well and all of this happened within a months time! I find it very

disturbing that we have no say in the matter. They are installing them in

China, India, Britain and the US. I don't want to wear out my welcome on this

board by rambling on, but if ya'll are interested I can post some of the

information I've found online concerning the matter. Just let me know and I

would be happy to oblige! ~Laurie

[Guest guest]

Cool Loni!

 

You say this was on Craigs list?  It should be reposted in the local paper! 

Good read.

 

Hope all is well with you.  I am busy X 5--hubby is home recovering from hernia

surgery and I can't get anything done.    And I spend half my time looking

after my Mom and Dad, so I no longer have much time for computing. 

 

Take care.  Blessing,

Diane

From: Loni <loni326@...>

Subject: Smart Meters

To:

Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 11:43 PM

 

 

FYI: Spreading Awareness

 

This was posted on Craigslist here in in Phoenix. I am trying to reach this

individual. Loni

 

 

HUMAN GUINNEA PIGS SMART METERS PHOENIX

 

This posting is to advise the citizens of Arizona that there have been no

studies conducted as to the health and safety issues to human and animal life

prior to installation deployment of APS Smart Meters. Across the nation people

are protesting their installation because where they have been installed, people

have reported many health problems with the source being from the smart meter.

Call to complain to APS they will tell you you must have the smart meter

installed or you will have no electricity. Call to complain to the governors

office and they will connect you with the Attorney General's office who will

refer you to the Arizona Corporation Commission who will take your complaint and

forward it to APS. I urge you to call for yourself and see - ask the Arizona

Corporation commission if there have been any tests or studies conducted to

assure these devices are safe to install on the walls of our homes. I was told

" No, there have been no such

studies. " I inquired, " Then we are being used as guinea pigs? " The reply was

answered with a question " I don't know, are you being used as guinea pigs? "

Appalled, I hung up and ask to speak to that person's supervisor. She said she

did not know if there had been any studies conducted as to whether or not the

smart meters were safe for humans and she would look into the matter and get

back with me. That was yesterday morning. Yesterday afternoon I followed up with

another question (to her voice mail as she did not answer) " Why would the AZCC

allow the installation of the smart meter without first testing it's safety to

human health? " Look on the internet to see the many reports of fires and

negative health affects the smart meter has had to people who have already

suffered various health problems and that installations were stopped in

communities that have suffered the negative consequences from the smart meter.

Call the AZCC and ask them for yourself.

We are being used as guinea pigs. They all have the initial same response -

" Your cell phone transmits the same harmful carcinogens as the smart meter. "

Yes, but we have the choice as to buying or not buying a cell phone, we have a

choice how often we want to use that cell phone, and we have the choice where we

want to keep the cell phone in relation to proximity to our body. We are not

being given a choice with the smart meter. It is mandatory...as in communist.

[Guest guest]

Hi Diane!

 

Good to hear from you. Sounds like you have your hands full my friend.

 

Yes those smart meters are very dangerous & will cause lots of disability.  I

am spreading

awareness as much as I can about it.

 

Loni

From: Loni <loni326@...>

Subject: Smart Meters

To:

Date: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 11:43 PM

 

 

FYI: Spreading Awareness

 

This was posted on Craigslist here in in Phoenix. I am trying to reach this

individual. Loni

 

 

HUMAN GUINNEA PIGS SMART METERS PHOENIX

 

This posting is to advise the citizens of Arizona that there have been no

studies conducted as to the health and safety issues to human and animal life

prior to installation deployment of APS Smart Meters. Across the nation people

are protesting their installation because where they have been installed, people

have reported many health problems with the source being from the smart meter.

Call to complain to APS they will tell you you must have the smart meter

installed or you will have no electricity. Call to complain to the governors

office and they will connect you with the Attorney General's office who will

refer you to the Arizona Corporation Commission who will take your complaint and

forward it to APS. I urge you to call for yourself and see - ask the Arizona

Corporation commission if there have been any tests or studies conducted to

assure these devices are safe to install on the walls of our homes. I was told

" No, there have been no such

studies. " I inquired, " Then we are being used as guinea pigs? " The reply was

answered with a question " I don't know, are you being used as guinea pigs? "

Appalled, I hung up and ask to speak to that person's supervisor. She said she

did not know if there had been any studies conducted as to whether or not the

smart meters were safe for humans and she would look into the matter and get

back with me. That was yesterday morning. Yesterday afternoon I followed up with

another question (to her voice mail as she did not answer) " Why would the AZCC

allow the installation of the smart meter without first testing it's safety to

human health? " Look on the internet to see the many reports of fires and

negative health affects the smart meter has had to people who have already

suffered various health problems and that installations were stopped in

communities that have suffered the negative consequences from the smart meter.

Call the AZCC and ask them for yourself.

We are being used as guinea pigs. They all have the initial same response -

" Your cell phone transmits the same harmful carcinogens as the smart meter. "

Yes, but we have the choice as to buying or not buying a cell phone, we have a

choice how often we want to use that cell phone, and we have the choice where we

want to keep the cell phone in relation to proximity to our body. We are not

being given a choice with the smart meter. It is mandatory...as in communist.

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

I think we need to find a way to tell the world at large that they need to stop

using new math. We are WAY more then 3 percent of the population! We need to

figure out a way to get our actual numbers known....specifically, to unite in

such a way to be able to tabulate the real numbers of people out there/out here

who are sensitive. If you add the numbers of sensitive people before the smart

meter catastrphe and the numbers added because of smart meters.........I think

the numbers are going to be FAR, FAR HIGHER!

And it seems to me, that if people can't smoke in a restaurant, then WE should

have places that are RF free too! Maybe a class action lawsuit.........we are

being discriminated against!

LIzzie

From: lwhatley11@...

Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:04:41 +0000

Subject: Re: Smart Meters

Yes, this is an EXTREMELY dangerous program for people with Electrical

Sensitivity. In fact, I signed up for this group because of my sudden health

problems (along with some of my animals)that started THE DAY they installed the

meter. I discovered my sensitivity to Radio Frequency several years ago when I

stupidly installed a DECT phone system in my business. I have owned a Natural

Foods Store for 25 years and am used to solving my health problems naturally but

my symptoms were so bizzare that I was completely baffled. I was having extreme

bradycardia (low pulse rate) in the low 40's, extreme exhaustion, extremely hot

and DARK grey feet. It was a very scary prospect each night when I would lay

down to go to sleep because as I would begin to fall asleep it felt like my

heart would stop beating all together! Each beat would be a loud thud that would

reverberate through my body. After finally discovering what was going on and

getting rid the phone system I got a lot better but still remained sensitive to

other wireless devices surrounding me at work so I decided to start working from

home so that I could control my exposure to RF. After doing so my health

returned and was back to my normal 100% HEALTHY & ENERGETIC self again. That all

changed the day they installed the new meter. Again, it took me a couple of

weeks to put it all together since I had no idea that they were utilizing RF for

these meters until I did some digging around on the internet. Now, I'm on a

mission to find some solutions. My head is spinning as I write but I am

determined to find some answers and regain my health. As a side note, I have

also had a very large increase in bizzare symptoms in my customers and

employees. Rashes, elevated BP, shingles, bleeding nose, uncontrolable anger -

and these people have been my customers for many years! I know their health

issues very well and all of this happened within a months time! I find it very

disturbing that we have no say in the matter. They are installing them in China,

India, Britain and the US. I don't want to wear out my welcome on this board by

rambling on, but if ya'll are interested I can post some of the information I've

found online concerning the matter. Just let me know and I would be happy to

oblige! ~Laurie

[Guest guest]

Welcome, smart meters are terrible. You're lucky you to know how it was before

it was in. We were the 1st state, been here since 97. Didn't feel it until cell

emf's got stronger.

We're just the one's who figured it out. A relative shared a friend after living

in an apt. near a cell tower 2 yrs,  now has Alzheimers. I bought a DECT by

mistake & got rid of it too.

 I wonder how the employees & their families handle them? I met a nice service

tech -won't say from where - told me he's sensitive. Removed his filings, took

of more metals,  to handle the job. His ears rang more in our house.

Our old house was small but built w the meters away from bedrooms on the back.

I found out about it from buying the wrong house w meters on 4 sides.  Besides

aluminum wiring.The neighbor's  gas meter is pointing at our garage.   Another

outside the bedroom window.  Our gas meters outside the kitchen window.  The

water digital meter the co. says is not am AMR is in on the front of the house.

My heart rate is low too. I had shingles too. I blamed more vaccines, but this

frequency is not good for anyone.

 We deserve the right to live without those if we choose. Anyone have a form

letter. We won't get it done w/o fighting.

Kathy

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Smart Meters

esens

Date: Sunday, March 20, 2011, 10:57 PM

 

Dear All,

I think we need to find a way to tell the world at large that they need to stop

using new math. We are WAY more then 3 percent of the population! We need to

figure out a way to get our actual numbers known....specifically, to unite in

such a way to be able to tabulate the real numbers of people out there/out here

who are sensitive. If you add the numbers of sensitive people before the smart

meter catastrphe and the numbers added because of smart meters.........I think

the numbers are going to be FAR, FAR HIGHER!

And it seems to me, that if people can't smoke in a restaurant, then WE should

have places that are RF free too! Maybe a class action lawsuit.........we are

being discriminated against!

LIzzie

From: lwhatley11@...

Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:04:41 +0000

Subject: Re: Smart Meters

Yes, this is an EXTREMELY dangerous program for people with Electrical

Sensitivity. In fact, I signed up for this group because of my sudden health

problems (along with some of my animals)that started THE DAY they installed the

meter. I discovered my sensitivity to Radio Frequency several years ago when I

stupidly installed a DECT phone system in my business. I have owned a Natural

Foods Store for 25 years and am used to solving my health problems naturally but

my symptoms were so bizzare that I was completely baffled. I was having extreme

bradycardia (low pulse rate) in the low 40's, extreme exhaustion, extremely hot

and DARK grey feet. It was a very scary prospect each night when I would lay

down to go to sleep because as I would begin to fall asleep it felt like my

heart would stop beating all together! Each beat would be a loud thud that would

reverberate through my body. After finally discovering what was going on and

getting rid the phone system I

got a lot better but still remained sensitive to other wireless devices

surrounding me at work so I decided to start working from home so that I could

control my exposure to RF. After doing so my health returned and was back to my

normal 100% HEALTHY & ENERGETIC self again. That all changed the day they

installed the new meter. Again, it took me a couple of weeks to put it all

together since I had no idea that they were utilizing RF for these meters until

I did some digging around on the internet. Now, I'm on a mission to find some

solutions. My head is spinning as I write but I am determined to find some

answers and regain my health. As a side note, I have also had a very large

increase in bizzare symptoms in my customers and employees. Rashes, elevated BP,

shingles, bleeding nose, uncontrolable anger - and these people have been my

customers for many years! I know their health issues very well and all of this

happened within a months time! I find it

very disturbing that we have no say in the matter. They are installing them in

China, India, Britain !

and the US. I don't want to wear out my welcome on this board by rambling on,

but if ya'll are interested I can post some of the information I've found online

concerning the matter. Just let me know and I would be happy to oblige! ~Laurie

[Guest guest]

I felt a sandpaper feeling on my head starting in 05 when the gas. co. installed

the final insult.

Sleeping in that bedroom was a nightmare that turned into shingles. My ears rang

loud & couldn't figure it out, then boom nerve pain.

I don't have the meters most of you do. Has anyone had the courage to measure

under the utility poles that collect?

K

[Guest guest]

Hi, Lizzie,

It is estimated that 22 to 24 % of the population has a tight junction

permeability gene.  Since emfs seem to open these tight junctions, then it is

highly likely that AT LEAST that many can be affected, but it is probably not as

straight forward as that.  My last post about celiac disease explains it takes

a CD gene + a TJ permeability gene + gluten to produce celiac disease.  It is

likely to take a TJ permeability gene + a sensitizing toxin + emfs to produce

ES, but it also could take one or more genes added to that, as well.  But even

so, I think people react to emfs in more ways than just tight junction / ion

channel effects.  I think it is likely to effect everyone at some level, man or

beast.  People just are not aware of it because we have been slowly immersed in

it. 

For instance, how often is diabetes or one's eating habits affected by ES? 

Does anybody know?  I know it happens for me personally.  Whether that is a

direct result of tight junction opening is not knowable--I assume it is because

I already know I have the gene; but it is entirely possible it is affecting my

diabetes by entirely other means.  One way it has affected me is by making me

crave sweets; I know this now since I have moved.  In my one house I crave, in

the other I don't.  But how many diabetics are going to be able to put 2 + 2

together and realize cravings can be due to emfs???  Not many, unfortunately. 

Emfs also affect my diabetes by directly raising my blood sugar via affecting my

autonomic nervous system.  (This is probably why I crave in one house and not

the other.)  But even I was not consciously aware this was going on for years,

and I am very ES-aware.

I think it is likely that emfs affect everybody in some small way.

My 2 cents on the subject, 

Diane

From: thode <lizt777@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Smart Meters

esens

Date: Sunday, March 20, 2011, 11:57 PM

 

Dear All,

I think we need to find a way to tell the world at large that they need to stop

using new math. We are WAY more then 3 percent of the population! We need to

figure out a way to get our actual numbers known....specifically, to unite in

such a way to be able to tabulate the real numbers of people out there/out here

who are sensitive. If you add the numbers of sensitive people before the smart

meter catastrphe and the numbers added because of smart meters.........I think

the numbers are going to be FAR, FAR HIGHER!

And it seems to me, that if people can't smoke in a restaurant, then WE should

have places that are RF free too! Maybe a class action lawsuit.........we are

being discriminated against!

LIzzie

From: lwhatley11@...

Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:04:41 +0000

Subject: Re: Smart Meters

Yes, this is an EXTREMELY dangerous program for people with Electrical

Sensitivity. In fact, I signed up for this group because of my sudden health

problems (along with some of my animals)that started THE DAY they installed the

meter. I discovered my sensitivity to Radio Frequency several years ago when I

stupidly installed a DECT phone system in my business. I have owned a Natural

Foods Store for 25 years and am used to solving my health problems naturally but

my symptoms were so bizzare that I was completely baffled. I was having extreme

bradycardia (low pulse rate) in the low 40's, extreme exhaustion, extremely hot

and DARK grey feet. It was a very scary prospect each night when I would lay

down to go to sleep because as I would begin to fall asleep it felt like my

heart would stop beating all together! Each beat would be a loud thud that would

reverberate through my body. After finally discovering what was going on and

getting rid the phone system I

got a lot better but still remained sensitive to other wireless devices

surrounding me at work so I decided to start working from home so that I could

control my exposure to RF. After doing so my health returned and was back to my

normal 100% HEALTHY & ENERGETIC self again. That all changed the day they

installed the new meter. Again, it took me a couple of weeks to put it all

together since I had no idea that they were utilizing RF for these meters until

I did some digging around on the internet. Now, I'm on a mission to find some

solutions. My head is spinning as I write but I am determined to find some

answers and regain my health. As a side note, I have also had a very large

increase in bizzare symptoms in my customers and employees. Rashes, elevated BP,

shingles, bleeding nose, uncontrolable anger - and these people have been my

customers for many years! I know their health issues very well and all of this

happened within a months time! I find it

very disturbing that we have no say in the matter. They are installing them in

China, India, Britain and the US. I don't want to wear out my welcome on this

board by rambling on, but if ya'll are interested I can post some of the

information I've found online concerning the matter. Just let me know and I

would be happy to oblige! ~Laurie

[Guest guest]

Ya I didn't like that either. Loni

From: torch369 <torch369@...>

Subject: Re: Smart meters

Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 7:52 AM

 

I don't understand why we have to transfer all of our personal info on facebook

to join a cause. My friend list, etc. I would rather they form a facebook group

where this isn't an issue.

Steve

>

> Anyone on Facebook please join the American Coalition Against Smart Meters:

>

> http://www.causes.com/causes/594297-american-coalition-against-smart-meters

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Councilman McKeown,

The Federal Communications Act of 1996 is 15 years old.  Smart

Meters did not exist at that time, nor the plan to install one on every home.

 No one has a cell phone that old, or a computer.  The legislation is simply not

keeping up with the technology, or the science that says that

pulsed radiation is harmful to humans.  

There have been repeated calls for the FCC to update that act, but thus far they

have been ignored.  The FCC licenses the spectrum to various spectrum-requiring

companies to the tune of billions of dollars each year.  I understand that the

government does not want to lose any part of those revenues... however, sick

people are significantly less effective at generating incomes...

and tend to rack up enormous health care costs.  Likewise, dead people do not

pay taxes. At some point the revenues gained will not be equal to the revenues

lost.

It is time for a massive re-examination of the government's plan to dose us with

unlimited, un-monitored microwave radiation. While I absolutely agree that we

have to solve this as a nation, in the meantime, is there nothing we can do

within our own communities to avoid collateral damage of bad policies?

I understand that Edison wishes to reduce its workforce, and can achieve this by

no longer requiring meter readers to come to our homes.  (The support of this by

anyone in government at a time of high state and national unemployment, baffles

me.)  However, in these modern times there are other solutions -- like crowd

sourcing.  I can easily, and happily photograph our building's meters and email

them into Edison each month.

 I have offered to do this, but have been thus far told that it is not an

option.  We should be allowed to read our own meters as an alternative to having

pulsed microwave radiation forced upon us.

I asked what would happen if we disallowed access to meters by means of a cage

or a fence, and was told that Edison would immediately shut off everyone's

electricity.  Really?  No refrigeration?  No lights?  One of our residents is a

98-year-old woman.  It would be impossible for her or any of us to survive

easily without electricity.  Is that really our only option?

Other cities in California have opt-out

plans http://stopsmartmeters.org/how-you-can-stop-smart-meters/sample-letter-to-\

local-government/ca-local-governments-on-board/  Why shouldn't Santa have

one

also?

Best,

Caroline Dixon

P.S. I have blind-copied several other concerned residents.  They may also wish

to contact you.

From: McKeown <kevin@...>

Subject: Smart meters

" McKeown " <kevin@...>

Date: Wednesday, August 10, 2011,

10:57 AM

Concern over smart meters has been brought to my attention since I

returned from vacation this past weekend.  While I was out of the country,

a smart meter was installed for my apartment.

So as to be able to respond better to the concerns you've emailed me (I'm

sending this to a number of residents, but blind-copying your email

addresses to protect your privacy), I spoke today at some length with Mark

Olson of Southern California Edison.

SCE has no opt-out program.  There is a hearing in September with Pacific

Gas and Electric in Northern California where the State of California may

devise such a program, but it does not yet exist.  SCE is over halfway

done with installations in Southern California, and has for the time being

simply deferred installations on homes where the property owner refused

them access. 

The meters themselves

replace old

mechanical meters that had to be read

periodically in person by an SCE employee.  According to Mark Olsen at

SCE, each home's new smart meter contains a low-power transmitter, with a

very limited range, which is not on all the time -- it sends out a burst

of data perhaps once an hour (and perhaps more often for commercial

customers).

The individual meters are not powerful enough to be received at any

significant distance.  For every 500 to 1000 homes, there is a single

" collector meter " that compiles the information from the individual meters

nearby.  That " collector meter " then initiates a cell phone call to SCE

Central, using the existing cell phone network, to transfer the

accumulated data.

I realize some of this explanation from SCE is contrary to what some of

you report having observed.  I can only share what I was told by SCE.

In the end, the concern you all seem to share is

about radiation.  Because

the federal Communications Act of 1996 took all jurisdiction over the

airwaves away from local municipalities, there is little the City of Santa

can do directly in this area.  This is why some of you have been

told, correctly, that our City has no one in City Hall in charge of

monitoring.  We have no jurisdiction over radiation, period.  With cell

towers, we have been allowed by the federal government to have very

limited say over aesthetics, and can require telecommunication companies

to document the need for improved/increased service, but we cannot say no,

nor can we regulate or control output powers.  That is entirely in the

realm of state and federal regulation.

Mark Olsen's job at SCE is public outreach and governmental relations, and

he has agreed to provide you further information if you wish.  Mark's

email is olsonma@....

Thanks,

     ___________________________________________________

      McKeown            |  Santa , CA  (USA)

     email: kevin@... |  310 393-3639 /-3609 FAX

     http://www.mckeown.net   | " Choose to be conscious "

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[Guest guest]

> I understand that Edison wishes to reduce its workforce, and can achieve

> this by no longer requiring meter readers to come to our homes.  

If the only reason for the new meter was to reduce the number of human

meter-readers, they could have solved that with a meter that transmits

once per month. Nobody would be complaining about that...

Also, if they can transmit broadband internet over the power lines,

then they could have transmitted your electricity usage (again,

once per month) over the powerline, with no wireless involved...

Marc

[Guest guest]

Is everyone aware of this declassified Army document concerning the biological

effects of RF? I just found it and it is shocking!

http://refusesmartmeter.com/Bioeffects_of_Selected_Non-Lethal_Weapons.pdf