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Jim

Shhhh! No names mentioned!! Don't want to be accused of slander!

Sharon

RE: Atkins and vegetarianism

At 05:33 PM 3/3/2004 -0500, Judith Alta K wrote:

>PS. I must say this forum is turning into a very active, lively place with

>some interesting discussions - a far cry from the other

>one! Thanks again, !

Are you referring to coconut-info? hehehe, no comment!

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" it works for you, but make no mistake, you are not a vegetarian if

you eat chicken and fish. "

The thing is, I'm not interested in the lable " vegetarian " . It saves a lot of

explaining, and is quicker to say than making a list of what I eat and don't eat

- why go into the details! But I COULD be pure vegetarian at the drop of a hat,

so I align myself there; I eat chicken and fish so rarely it doesn't make much

of a difference. And even if I were to eat red meat occasionally I'd call myself

vegetarian; for me it denotes a general food preference rather than any kind of

toeing an orthodox line.

Sharon M

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>All I can say is is that I hace been perfectly healthy for the last

>30 years, without red meat and only occasionally chicken or fish -

>apart from a slight overweight - nothing drastic, but which vanished

>when I changed oils (I used to use vegetable oils and soya till

>about a year ago.) The only thing needed was coconut oil.

Sharon, your diet sounds quite good, and the most important thing is

it works for you, but make no mistake, you are not a vegetarian if

you eat chicken and fish. Nothing wrong with that!

Regards,

Jeanmarie

>Recently my doctor had to give a medical report on my health and

>state what illnesses I have had in the last 10 years. All there was

>were a couple of warts! I am 52 years old. I eat by instinct - I

>never think about vitamins or worry if I'm getting enough of this or

>that nutrient. I believe the body takes care of itself if the mind

>stays healthy - and the latter was always my first priority. I

>practice hatha yoga and meditation (since I was 19) and believe

>that has and enormous influence. Might be unscientific but it works

>for me! I could not eat meat even if I wanted to.

>Salud!

>Sharon M

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" Perfect Diet: Real food, whole food, whatever works for the person... "

--Agreed, but most people DO NOT seem to care until they are sick; by then

they are too set in their ways to change. (My friends demonstrated this)

Re: Atkins and vegetarianism

on 3/3/04 2:49 AM, Lorenzo at Coconut Oil wrote:

> Do not forget the Greenland Eskimo, A few berries in the summer is their

> total carb allowance. They were healthy.

But we mustn't forget that different ethnicities have developed different

requirements. Here is an article you might find interesting by a

practitioner:

by Krispin Sullivan, C.N.

Perfect Diet: Real food, whole food, whatever works for the person, usually

has some ethnic base re protein, carb and fat sources. Just to avoid

confusion this has NOTHING to do with blood types, we are talking ancestral

heritage. Examples include

Ancestors from island or coastal regions consider fish. Others may thrive on

dairy (hopefully fresh and organic). Others are meat eaters and yet others

use grains and pulses and nuts and seeds.

Fats near the equator higher in saturated fats, coconut, palm, ghee, lard.

Fats near the poles higher in omega-3. Midline try the omega-9, how

convenient that these fats are derived from foods that grow naturally

according to climate (distance from the sun)

Grains for those with ancestors who used them but not genetically engineered

and 'fresh', that is ground and baked or cooked TODAY. Other carbs for

others such as taro for Hawaii, manioc for Zaire, potatoes for the UK, you

get the idea.

If you are a mutt follow your instincts. Instincts work very well if you

only use REAL, FRESH unprocessed food. Fresh is tough in America as we

create things that appear to store well but like manna these foods rot

quickly without showing the signs. This 'rotting' includes many foods from

so called health food stores. Processing is processing.

A line I use in my classes is that 'the offspring of a native Hawaiian

married to a native Alaskan might well thrive on pineapple and blubber'. It

isn't as far fetched as it may sound. It also implies that marrying outside

your ethnicity may work well for only one of the family members unless

individual and different meals are prepared for each member.

Again, Sally Fallon's new edition of Nourishing Traditions has the recipes

and the research. 1-877-707-1776. I love this book and the new edition has

even more research on the problem with soy, new fat research and more and

the recipes are fantastic. I always get distracted when I read the clinical

data (on every page, next to the recipes) I can't decide on whether to

continue to feed my mind or go cook and eat.

~~~~~~~~~~~

-- Joan McPhee, MH, WT

mailto:mcpheej@... --

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MMM... love liver and onions... but don't think I'd use that many, even in

my pre-lowcarb days. Just goes to show you, just cuz something is true in

your own experience doesn't mean it is so for everyone else.

Joy

On eating two onions a day, I can put two or three fair sized onions on a

nice piece of liver, cook them together and eat the whole

thing. I also love sweet onions sautéed in butter. I can eat several at a

sitting.

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