Re: Place to live/off the grid...

[Guest guest]

What does it really mean to be 'off the grid'? I'm not knowledgeable in this

area, so someone please explain.

Thanks~

Amy

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In a message dated 7/21/2008 3:14:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

snoshoe_2@... writes:

Myself will be off the grid, many people in the area are, but just to

keep out wireless things would be hugely beneficial.

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No electric service from the power company.

=Off the grid.

Usually there is a solar system instead.

On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:43 PM, <javamdnss@...> wrote:

> What does it really mean to be 'off the grid'? I'm not knowledgeable in

> this

> area, so someone please explain.

> Thanks~

> Amy

>

> A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough

> to

> take everything you have.

> Jefferson

>

> In a message dated 7/21/2008 3:14:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> snoshoe_2@... <snoshoe_2%40> writes:

>

> Myself will be off the grid, many people in the area are, but just to

> keep out wireless things would be hugely beneficial.

>

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[Guest guest]

It means to live where electricity from the power company is not available.

Much of rural Arizona is like this. You provide your own power with solar and

wind generation.

Melinda

Re: Place to live/off the grid...

What does it really mean to be 'off the grid'? I'm not knowledgeable in this

area, so someone please explain.

Thanks~

Amy

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to

take everything you have.

Jefferson

In a message dated 7/21/2008 3:14:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

snoshoe_2@...<mailto:snoshoe_2@...> writes:

Myself will be off the grid, many people in the area are, but just to

keep out wireless things would be hugely beneficial.

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phxhealchapter@... writes:

It means to live where electricity from the power company is not available.

Much of rural Arizona is like this. You provide your own power with solar and

wind generation.

Melinda

Okay, so does that mean the electricity is different and doesn't bother

those with EMF problems so much?

Amy

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[Guest guest]

javamdnss@... wrote:

> phxhealchapter@... writes:

>

> It means to live where electricity from the power company is not available.

> Much of rural Arizona is like this. You provide your own power with solar and

> wind generation.

> Melinda

>

>

> Okay, so does that mean the electricity is different and doesn't bother

> those with EMF problems so much?

> Amy

>

This is one of those " rock and hard place " problems for sensitives.

For me, inverters and batteries give me a problem. Although the

batteries have a limited range and can be hidden in an outbuilding, for

example.

So, remember the distance rule, and don't put your power panel or

generating equipment next to your bedroom...

The grid power lines do throw out an electric field 1/4 mile in radius,

and there is concern about broadband over powerlines and other remote

meter readers, the new ones are wireless.

Our solution was to put the house 150 feet from the power pole and

meter, bring it in buried, but not where we walk every day, and run the

wires inside the house in metal conduit.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the answer. So do you feel better overall living off the

grid?

Amy

In a message dated 7/28/2008 10:09:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

sandreas41@... writes:

This is one of those " rock and hard place " problems for sensitives.

For me, inverters and batteries give me a problem. Although the

batteries have a limited range and can be hidden in an outbuilding, for

example.

So, remember the distance rule, and don't put your power panel or

generating equipment next to your bedroom...

The grid power lines do throw out an electric field 1/4 mile in radius,

and there is concern about broadband over powerlines and other remote

meter readers, the new ones are wireless.

Our solution was to put the house 150 feet from the power pole and

meter, bring it in buried, but not where we walk every day, and run the

wires inside the house in metal conduit.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

Reread my last paragraph. We still have a power pole.

I definitely feel better with the (grid supplied power) wiring in metal

conduit, inside the home.

I definitely feel better when I can get 1/4 mile away from the power lines.

and I don't like being near invertors and batteries either.

Neither do I like computers and combustion engines, but I still use

them. Thus the focus on mitigating the hazards, and finding ways to

tolerate the EMF.

Does that help?

javamdnss@... wrote:

> Thanks for the answer. So do you feel better overall living off the

> grid?

> Amy

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 7/28/2008 10:09:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> sandreas41@... writes:

>

> This is one of those " rock and hard place " problems for sensitives.

>

> For me, inverters and batteries give me a problem. Although the

> batteries have a limited range and can be hidden in an outbuilding, for

> example.

> So, remember the distance rule, and don't put your power panel or

> generating equipment next to your bedroom...

>

> The grid power lines do throw out an electric field 1/4 mile in radius,

> and there is concern about broadband over powerlines and other remote

> meter readers, the new ones are wireless.

>

> Our solution was to put the house 150 feet from the power pole and

> meter, bring it in buried, but not where we walk every day, and run the

> wires inside the house in metal conduit.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In response to comments Steve made about living off the grid...

Having your wiring in metal conduit is not going to help with the problem of

dirty electricity that is created by the inverter. The damaging frequencies

will be broadcast from the system whenever the inverter is on. (In our

house, even metal conduit from which the wiring had been pulled created a great

pathway for dirty electricity, with current jumping to it from live circuits.)

It's possible to have an inverter made with filtering built into in.

Trying to add filters afterward, however, will likely destroy the inverter.

Shivani Arjuna

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[Guest guest]

I disagree. Though everything you said may be true there is something else to

consider. And that is the copper in the wire. The toxic effects of copper are

identical to the toxic effects of mercury. Many in this group have, or believe

they have the symptoms of mercury toxicity. What they may also be suffering

from is the toxic effects of copper. I put my wiring inside metal conduit and

can really tell a difference in the energy I feel in my home.

Re: Place to live/off the grid...

In response to comments Steve made about living off the grid...

Having your wiring in metal conduit is not going to help with the problem of

dirty electricity that is created by the inverter. The damaging frequencies

will be broadcast from the system whenever the inverter is on. (In our

house, even metal conduit from which the wiring had been pulled created a

great

pathway for dirty electricity, with current jumping to it from live circuits.)

It's possible to have an inverter made with filtering built into in.

Trying to add filters afterward, however, will likely destroy the inverter.

Shivani Arjuna

www.LifeEnergies.com

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