Re: New To Group//Looking to Connect

[Guest guest]

Welcome, Seper!

So what sorts of things have you tried to alleviate the symptoms?

I've gotten my ES " under control " using a combination of avoidance,

nutrition, supplements, and EMF protection devices. It's all

pretty complicated and has required years of trial & error, but

I do " okay " these days with a fairly high exposure to EMFs.

Marc

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:13:37 -0000, " soulpro44 " <soulpro44@...>

said:

> Hello all,

>

> I'm new to the group and I just wanted to collaborate with everyone to

> remedy the EHS that I have been dealing with for the past 7 months. I

> live out in Los Angeles and was also wondering if there is anyone who

> lives out here who is experiencing EHS or ES. My main symptom is sleep

> disturbance--a tough battle to get even a miniscule amount of rest.

> Aside from that I guess you could say that I have problems with cell

> phones, computers, and TV. Lately however I have been able to watch

> more television and not get any symptoms. This is a very difficult

> thing to go through, you are all well aware of that. I truly

> appreciate that there is a group like this and hope that I can get to

> know some of you, and hopefully, through one another's support, we can

> find some cure or treatment.

>

> --Seper

[Guest guest]

> I'm curious to know exactly what supplements you take and which

> protection devices you use. I bought about 9 stetzer filters but

> haven't really felt much benefit. If I could save myself years of

> trial and error that would be the purpose of this group fulfilled.

Everyone has a different environment and has different sensitivities,

so what works for me won't necessarily work for you.

That said, I've had good sucess with antioxidants (I take Active H-

powder now, but there is a similar product called Megahydrate),

Essential Fatty Acids (evening primrose oil taken orally or

borage oil skin cream applied to the face helps with the " burning

face symptom " , flax oil helps my allergies but not ES), minerals

(foods high in potassium and/or magnesium seem to work the best

for me, but I also take a supplement called " Cellfood " ). Also,

the foods I eat now tend to be less cooked,

more organic, and are never microwaved -- I don't know how much

this actually helps with ES, though, although it does seem to

be " healthier " . I've also taken a lot of probiotics (the

best were from Custom Probiotics) and digestive enzymes (currently

use Zypan from Standard Process). Plus a lot of " Green Food "

supplements, which these days are mostly " Superfood Bars "

from Odwalla, and Greenlife#10 from Sonne.

As for devices, the ones from Quantum Products have proven helpful for

me, as have Springlife Polarizers (I usually use some combination of

both). But there are other things which I've noted that has made

some difference, like Earthcalm resonators, Radar cards, Electromagnetic

Pollution Rectifiers, Aulterra Neutralizer stickers, etc. I've

also tried plenty of other devices over the years which appeared

to do little to nothing, or actually made me worse!

Also, distancing yourself more from your computer, computer monitor,

clock radio near the bed can help. If you have a CRT monitor, you

can also turn down the resolution and get benefit. And eliminating

any dimmer switches in the house, compact florescent lighting,

wireless phones and Internet can help.

Plus, the shoes I wear have static dissapative soles, so I no

longer get shocks.

Others have used a variety of shielding materials -- I've not

had much luck with these, so I just don't do this at all anymore.

I can provide more info/links for any of the above, or alternately

you can do Google searches on anything that looks interesting to you.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Seper,

Welcome, and sympathies. The simplest (and cheapest) quick remedy we found

for my wife Sue's ES-related sleep disorder was simply to turn off the power

in the house at night at the mains. This reduced the problem considerably

and helped break the vicious circle. Of course it involves lifestyle

changes particularly with regard to frozen food.

Howevrer you will probably find there are things specific to you that add to

the sleep disturbance - you can search for these and try to solve them. In

Sue's case these included emissions from a special type of street light by

our house (which the council kindly replaced!) and the neighbours' cordless

phone coming through the shared wall (which we blocked off with metallic

netting).

Best wishes, Ian

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

soulpro44

Sent: 27 July 2006 00:14

Subject: New To Group//Looking to Connect

Hello all,

I'm new to the group and I just wanted to collaborate with everyone to

remedy the EHS that I have been dealing with for the past 7 months. I

live out in Los Angeles and was also wondering if there is anyone who

lives out here who is experiencing EHS or ES. My main symptom is sleep

disturbance--a tough battle to get even a miniscule amount of rest.

Aside from that I guess you could say that I have problems with cell

phones, computers, and TV. Lately however I have been able to watch

more television and not get any symptoms. This is a very difficult

thing to go through, you are all well aware of that. I truly

appreciate that there is a group like this and hope that I can get to

know some of you, and hopefully, through one another's support, we can

find some cure or treatment.

--Seper

[Guest guest]

Oh... some more suggestions for Seper...

Remove unneccesary metals from your body. That is, rethink

carrying your keys in your pocket, or a large belt buckle.

Perhaps replace metal-framed eyeglasses with plastic, or

metal dental work with plastic composites. (all this

metal acts as an antenna)

A lot of people here have noticed a correlation with

heavy metal toxicity and ES, so doing something to

detox yourself from metals could be helpful. Although

during the detox, you may find your ES symptoms to be

worse (and some people here have theorized that ES

symptoms are in fact just heavy metal detox symptoms

due to metals being mobilized into your bloodstream

by EMF)

Also, at home I use air purifiers which generate ozone,

as this reduces the odors coming from our cat's litter

box. I think this also helps my ES though, as these

also increase the amount of negative ions in the air.

(ion generators did not work as well for me -- I got

sharp winces of pain on my skin from them, and they

didn't help with any odors!).

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I have heard of the spring life polarizer, I just may give it a try.

> So I guess the main supplents are EFA's and antioxidants.

I've tried a *lot* of supplements over the years, but these days

it all seems to be down to antioxidants, EFAs, alkalanizing minerals,

and probiotics. And some of this stuff can be gotten more

effectively from foods instead of pills, if one is up for

a complete overhaul of their diet... :-)

> Have you

> heard of the correlation between ES and Heavy Metals (e.g. Mercury) I

> had problems with some fillings years ago which I took out and

> detoxed from. After some time I felt better. But now, or should I say

> 7 months ago, after partying a little to hard on New Years, this ES

> developed. When did yours start?

Yes, I've heard of this connection, and have tried many forms of

mercury chelation. I have very little tolerance for these types

of products however (meaning that I feel very bad even at

small dosages), which indicates to me that it is indeed a big

problem for me. However, since I also wish to be functional,

I don't take these sorts of products much anymore (although

maybe I should for their longterm benefit?). I'd suggest

" NDF " as a good thing to try for mercury detox, but there

are lots of others out there.

My problems started about 6 years ago, after I had been suffering

from a sinus infection and was put on repeated rounds of

antibiotics. The antibiotics finally cured my sinus infection,

but left me with all sorts of sensitivities that I didn't have

before (chemical & electrical)

> Has it improved at all?

As long as I stick to my supplements, food, and devices, I

manage a " normal " life, which is *much* better than before, when

I couldn't work because of the workplace environment, needed

a *lot* of sleep, and also couldn't watch TV, use the phone,

etc. without discomfort. These days, I don't think at all

about things that I used to dread.

> Have you heard of this condition being resolved in anyone?

Yes, people who have detoxed sucessfully claim to be cured.

I can't say that I have detoxed sucessfully, but it's not for

lack of trying!

> I have been looking into shielding my bedroom but it seems

> to be a difficult and costly thing to do. I know that you

> have not had much luck with this, but do

> you know how other people went about getting this done?

I'm sure they'll be happy to tell you! (if they are reading).

There are fabrics, paints, etc. -- lessemf.com has probably

everything you would need for this...

Marc

[Guest guest]

> But now, or should I say

> 7 months ago, after partying a little to hard on New Years, this ES

> developed.

So, you think " partying " was the trigger for your ES? I suppose

a common connection between your partying and my antibiotics use

may be liver damage. Perhaps it's the part of the liver which

detoxifies heavy metals and/or radiation that gets impaired?

Just theorizing...

Marc

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/27/2006 4:49:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

marc@... writes:

at home I use air purifiers which generate ozone,

hi Marc : ) I would be careful with anything that generates ozone. It is

bad for your lungs. Even though they say the air cleaners have less than the

limit approved by the FDA, the FDA begs to differ and says to be careful with

ozone generators.

[Guest guest]

I've found the best place to put my ozone generator is in the same little room

where the furnace/ac air blower is at. When it first turns on you get a little

smell of the ozone. But I hope it is keeping things sanitary and killing the

bad stuff in the furnace and vents. I have to watch it though cause it has

caused rust on other metal surfaces before and so I have to make sure it doesn't

rust anything.

Re: New To Group//Looking to Connect

In a message dated 7/27/2006 4:49:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

marc@... writes:

at home I use air purifiers which generate ozone,

hi Marc : ) I would be careful with anything that generates ozone. It is

bad for your lungs. Even though they say the air cleaners have less than the

limit approved by the FDA, the FDA begs to differ and says to be careful with

ozone generators.

[Guest guest]

> hi Marc : ) I would be careful with anything that generates ozone. It is

> bad for your lungs. Even though they say the air cleaners have less than the

> limit approved by the FDA, the FDA begs to differ and says to be careful with

> ozone generators.

I think that there is a lot of misinformation out there about ozone, and

the FDA isn't on the side of the truth... (but what else is new?)

Marc