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WiMAX falls into a different category then cell towers - there are all sorts of

cities and libraries and schools that have stopped city wide wimax and local

wimax.

Think of someone with a peanut allergy - if you get onto a plane and someone

says they have a peanut allergy - they tell everyone on the plane to refrain

from eating anything that has peanuts - Same with schools.

Did everyone look at the ABC video of the woman that was EHS? The program went

to great lengths to inform the audience that the WIFI was really bad. They

stepped accross a big line.

First it was cell phones - a senate hearing and then warnings - even the FCC

changed their RF page about cell phones to warn people. Now they are moving

onto WIFI - and cell towers. They are using people that are allergic to

electricity as a means of showing the harm without scientific studies because no

one will allow them to be funded.

Unless we speak up and complain - the press will have no one to come to for a

story. The autistic moms screamed about thimerisol in vaccines and that made a

very big impact with the H1N1 flu shots. No one trust the WHO because of it.

The doctor in the Video said that he is seeing 10 times the amount of patients

that are like this than 10 years ago. It's only going to get more common and

people will complain to the point that things will change. They took the lead

out of gas. The are taking down the coal plants - they are replacing the lead

pipes. Things do change but only if you request the change and only if the

doctors and the press and the government is informed.

Wifi is no different than mercury fillings or for vacinations. The FDA denies

the harmful effects but how many dentists use it now? How many doctors said - Ah

- I think we need vaccines without mercury. You can run to the country to get

well but you need to also warn the country folks that it's comming to their town

unless they stand up and fight it.

On 2010-04-06, at 9:32 AM, cocopollyphenol wrote:

> I think if I were him and I owned the house, I'd adapt the house to block wifi

etc. As long as he was choosing to live in town, and not on acreage somewhere,

he was going to be in trouble sooner or later.

>

> I spent a week out at a farmhouse out in the country, with a few low signals

from neighbors who weren't all that close, and more importantly, not a blanket

of wimax and only a few cellphone towers. I could sit in the parking lot across

from a cellphone tower and feel okay, it was an older one, without a zillion

dishes on it.

>

> I felt relaxed. However, the farmhouse had a mold problem that made me sick as

a dog.

>

> We came back into the Atlanta area and I began to feel ems symptoms. I am

sensitized more now since being in that house. I don't know what was wrong with

that house but I wonder if that wifi router gave off extra strong signals, was

somehow faulty. I also know it was a strong router. That whole neighborhood was

blanketed with wifi in every single house, sometimes two to a house. In addition

maybe that house had faulty wiring or extra EMF. The odd thing is once

sensitized I haven't seemed to recover even tho it was only 3 weeks.

>

> Atlanta has been wimaxed and there are towers everywhere. As you drive toward

the city you see so many. Symptoms of spine pressure, agitation (subtle), a

weird alertness, and occasionally irregular heartbeats now when I'm around

strong wifi in a store...etc. It's very unpleasant. I don't know what to do.

>

> I don't see any solution for anybody really, because wimax is going

everywhere. Give it another five years. Everybody will have even stronger wifi

routers.

>

> This just makes a good, " kooky " story but will not change policy. If in 1996

they passed a law that no local govt could question ie litigate placement of

towers based on health, its a long upward battle. They put their protection into

place quite a while ago. Tell me how we're going to change this. And most people

are not sensitive or even if they had mild symptoms wouldn't care. In addition,

good studies might require years--epidemiological studies that look at rates of

illness/cancer around towers, and exactly how far. And it's complicated now by

wifi routers. I can't even imagine how you could design a good human study.

You'd just have to do animal studies.

>

> It took quite a long while for scientists to get bisphenol A on the " bad "

list. They did study after study with alarming results but the industry just did

their own sponsored studies. It was so profitable. It took so much effort to

target just ONE chemical.

>

> This is a way of life. If I were to move to that farmhouse if it WASN'T

moldy--who's to say in ten years it won't be wimaxed too? That at some point the

farmer next door will sell his land and a developer will come in and a bunch of

homes will go up with N-routers?

>

> I don't see a solution. In my case, I think I'm sensitized because I have lyme

disease which broke down my system, leading to MCS and now ES. But I think the

whole population is affected. For instance, they now are finding that phthalate

exposure affects boys' intelligence (endocrine disrupter--estrogen mimic). There

was also a great study a while back that found that the level of phthalates in

baby boy's urine correlated with the distance from the anus to the scrotum--less

distance ie more feminized with higher levels of the endocrine disrupters. No

mother could notice that with her naked eye. But it was a clear indication that

effects were occurring. The same is probably true of wimax, wifi (which I think

are much worse than cellphones but that's my subjective sense).

>

>

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How can we see this ABC video?

> I think if I were him and I owned the house, I'd adapt the house to block wifi

etc. As long as he was choosing to live in town, and not on acreage somewhere,

he was going to be in trouble sooner or later.

>

> I spent a week out at a farmhouse out in the country, with a few low signals

from neighbors who weren't all that close, and more importantly, not a blanket

of wimax and only a few cellphone towers. I could sit in the parking lot across

from a cellphone tower and feel okay, it was an older one, without a zillion

dishes on it.

>

> I felt relaxed. However, the farmhouse had a mold problem that made me sick as

a dog.

>

> We came back into the Atlanta area and I began to feel ems symptoms. I am

sensitized more now since being in that house. I don't know what was wrong with

that house but I wonder if that wifi router gave off extra strong signals, was

somehow faulty. I also know it was a strong router. That whole neighborhood was

blanketed with wifi in every single house, sometimes two to a house. In addition

maybe that house had faulty wiring or extra EMF. The odd thing is once

sensitized I haven't seemed to recover even tho it was only 3 weeks.

>

> Atlanta has been wimaxed and there are towers everywhere. As you drive toward

the city you see so many. Symptoms of spine pressure, agitation (subtle), a

weird alertness, and occasionally irregular heartbeats now when I'm around

strong wifi in a store...etc. It's very unpleasant. I don't know what to do.

>

> I don't see any solution for anybody really, because wimax is going

everywhere. Give it another five years. Everybody will have even stronger wifi

routers.

>

> This just makes a good, " kooky " story but will not change policy. If in 1996

they passed a law that no local govt could question ie litigate placement of

towers based on health, its a long upward battle. They put their protection into

place quite a while ago. Tell me how we're going to change this. And most people

are not sensitive or even if they had mild symptoms wouldn't care. In addition,

good studies might require years--epidemiological studies that look at rates of

illness/cancer around towers, and exactly how far. And it's complicated now by

wifi routers. I can't even imagine how you could design a good human study.

You'd just have to do animal studies.

>

> It took quite a long while for scientists to get bisphenol A on the " bad "

list. They did study after study with alarming results but the industry just did

their own sponsored studies. It was so profitable. It took so much effort to

target just ONE chemical.

>

> This is a way of life. If I were to move to that farmhouse if it WASN'T

moldy--who's to say in ten years it won't be wimaxed too? That at some point the

farmer next door will sell his land and a developer will come in and a bunch of

homes will go up with N-routers?

>

> I don't see a solution. In my case, I think I'm sensitized because I have lyme

disease which broke down my system, leading to MCS and now ES. But I think the

whole population is affected. For instance, they now are finding that phthalate

exposure affects boys' intelligence (endocrine disrupter--estrogen mimic). There

was also a great study a while back that found that the level of phthalates in

baby boy's urine correlated with the distance from the anus to the scrotum--less

distance ie more feminized with higher levels of the endocrine disrupters. No

mother could notice that with her naked eye. But it was a clear indication that

effects were occurring. The same is probably true of wimax, wifi (which I think

are much worse than cellphones but that's my subjective sense).

>

>

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It was the video that accompanied the Arthurs story on ABC

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/allergic-electronics-man-sues-neighbor-gadget/s\

tory?id=10240343

Play the video that goes with the story.

As you can see - ABC is not laughing at this story. They are informing the

public - producing videos like this is expensive.

Writing a story takes a few hours. Making a video takes about a weeks worth of

work.

NOW - EVERYONE ON THIS SITE SHOULD GO A POST A REPLY TO THAT STORY!!!!!!

When the editors see that there is so much response to it they will run more

stories about it.

IT " S REALLY TIME TO TELL THE WORLD YOUR STORY....

The cell phone activists did it - they brought it to everyones attention. Now

it's our turn.

On 2010-04-06, at 11:41 AM, Loni wrote:

> How can we see this ABC video?

>

>

>

> > I think if I were him and I owned the house, I'd adapt the house to block

wifi etc. As long as he was choosing to live in town, and not on acreage

somewhere, he was going to be in trouble sooner or later.

> >

> > I spent a week out at a farmhouse out in the country, with a few low signals

from neighbors who weren't all that close, and more importantly, not a blanket

of wimax and only a few cellphone towers. I could sit in the parking lot across

from a cellphone tower and feel okay, it was an older one, without a zillion

dishes on it.

> >

> > I felt relaxed. However, the farmhouse had a mold problem that made me sick

as a dog.

> >

> > We came back into the Atlanta area and I began to feel ems symptoms. I am

sensitized more now since being in that house. I don't know what was wrong with

that house but I wonder if that wifi router gave off extra strong signals, was

somehow faulty. I also know it was a strong router. That whole neighborhood was

blanketed with wifi in every single house, sometimes two to a house. In addition

maybe that house had faulty wiring or extra EMF. The odd thing is once

sensitized I haven't seemed to recover even tho it was only 3 weeks.

> >

> > Atlanta has been wimaxed and there are towers everywhere. As you drive

toward the city you see so many. Symptoms of spine pressure, agitation (subtle),

a weird alertness, and occasionally irregular heartbeats now when I'm around

strong wifi in a store...etc. It's very unpleasant. I don't know what to do.

> >

> > I don't see any solution for anybody really, because wimax is going

everywhere. Give it another five years. Everybody will have even stronger wifi

routers.

> >

> > This just makes a good, " kooky " story but will not change policy. If in 1996

they passed a law that no local govt could question ie litigate placement of

towers based on health, its a long upward battle. They put their protection into

place quite a while ago. Tell me how we're going to change this. And most people

are not sensitive or even if they had mild symptoms wouldn't care. In addition,

good studies might require years--epidemiological studies that look at rates of

illness/cancer around towers, and exactly how far. And it's complicated now by

wifi routers. I can't even imagine how you could design a good human study.

You'd just have to do animal studies.

> >

> > It took quite a long while for scientists to get bisphenol A on the " bad "

list. They did study after study with alarming results but the industry just did

their own sponsored studies. It was so profitable. It took so much effort to

target just ONE chemical.

> >

> > This is a way of life. If I were to move to that farmhouse if it WASN'T

moldy--who's to say in ten years it won't be wimaxed too? That at some point the

farmer next door will sell his land and a developer will come in and a bunch of

homes will go up with N-routers?

> >

> > I don't see a solution. In my case, I think I'm sensitized because I have

lyme disease which broke down my system, leading to MCS and now ES. But I think

the whole population is affected. For instance, they now are finding that

phthalate exposure affects boys' intelligence (endocrine disrupter--estrogen

mimic). There was also a great study a while back that found that the level of

phthalates in baby boy's urine correlated with the distance from the anus to the

scrotum--less distance ie more feminized with higher levels of the endocrine

disrupters. No mother could notice that with her naked eye. But it was a clear

indication that effects were occurring. The same is probably true of wimax, wifi

(which I think are much worse than cellphones but that's my subjective sense).

> >

> >

>

>

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> >

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/allergic-electronics-man-sues-neighbor-gadget/s\

tory?id=10240343

> >

> > NOW - EVERYONE ON THIS SITE SHOULD GO A POST A REPLY TO THAT STORY!!!!!!

>

> Thanks for that -- I didn't watch the video, but I did post a reply...

Although I now see that this story is a week old, so it may be a bit late

to post a reply that will actually be read by anybody... (?)

Marc

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Full Signal will help - get prepared to buy copies and go door to door

On 2010-04-06, at 2:10 PM, cocopollyphenol wrote:

>

> Stopping wimax is the exception not the rule.

>

> Look at this March news item:

>

> http://gigaom.com/2010/03/23/la-miami-and-middle-america-to-get-wimax/

>

> Clearwire said today that it would expand its WiMAX network to Cincinnati,

Cleveland, Los Angeles, Miami, Pittsburgh, Salt Lake City and St. Louis this

year. In its effort to cover 120 million people before the end of the year,

these cities will join previously announced network buildouts in 2010 in New

York City, San Francisco, Boston, Washington, D.C., Denver, Minneapolis and

Kansas City.

>

> ------

> It's extremely troublesome. And it is like an avalanche gaining momentum.

>

> >

> > > I think if I were him and I owned the house, I'd adapt the house to block

wifi etc. As long as he was choosing to live in town, and not on acreage

somewhere, he was going to be in trouble sooner or later.

> > >

> > > I spent a week out at a farmhouse out in the country, with a few low

signals from neighbors who weren't all that close, and more importantly, not a

blanket of wimax and only a few cellphone towers. I could sit in the parking lot

across from a cellphone tower and feel okay, it was an older one, without a

zillion dishes on it.

> > >

> > > I felt relaxed. However, the farmhouse had a mold problem that made me

sick as a dog.

> > >

> > > We came back into the Atlanta area and I began to feel ems symptoms. I am

sensitized more now since being in that house. I don't know what was wrong with

that house but I wonder if that wifi router gave off extra strong signals, was

somehow faulty. I also know it was a strong router. That whole neighborhood was

blanketed with wifi in every single house, sometimes two to a house. In addition

maybe that house had faulty wiring or extra EMF. The odd thing is once

sensitized I haven't seemed to recover even tho it was only 3 weeks.

> > >

> > > Atlanta has been wimaxed and there are towers everywhere. As you drive

toward the city you see so many. Symptoms of spine pressure, agitation (subtle),

a weird alertness, and occasionally irregular heartbeats now when I'm around

strong wifi in a store...etc. It's very unpleasant. I don't know what to do.

> > >

> > > I don't see any solution for anybody really, because wimax is going

everywhere. Give it another five years. Everybody will have even stronger wifi

routers.

> > >

> > > This just makes a good, " kooky " story but will not change policy. If in

1996 they passed a law that no local govt could question ie litigate placement

of towers based on health, its a long upward battle. They put their protection

into place quite a while ago. Tell me how we're going to change this. And most

people are not sensitive or even if they had mild symptoms wouldn't care. In

addition, good studies might require years--epidemiological studies that look at

rates of illness/cancer around towers, and exactly how far. And it's complicated

now by wifi routers. I can't even imagine how you could design a good human

study. You'd just have to do animal studies.

> > >

> > > It took quite a long while for scientists to get bisphenol A on the " bad "

list. They did study after study with alarming results but the industry just did

their own sponsored studies. It was so profitable. It took so much effort to

target just ONE chemical.

> > >

> > > This is a way of life. If I were to move to that farmhouse if it WASN'T

moldy--who's to say in ten years it won't be wimaxed too? That at some point the

farmer next door will sell his land and a developer will come in and a bunch of

homes will go up with N-routers?

> > >

> > > I don't see a solution. In my case, I think I'm sensitized because I have

lyme disease which broke down my system, leading to MCS and now ES. But I think

the whole population is affected. For instance, they now are finding that

phthalate exposure affects boys' intelligence (endocrine disrupter--estrogen

mimic). There was also a great study a while back that found that the level of

phthalates in baby boy's urine correlated with the distance from the anus to the

scrotum--less distance ie more feminized with higher levels of the endocrine

disrupters. No mother could notice that with her naked eye. But it was a clear

indication that effects were occurring. The same is probably true of wimax, wifi

(which I think are much worse than cellphones but that's my subjective sense).

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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