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Well, Glen, just be aware that this opens Pandora's box ... This list was

dedicated to ELECTROsensitivity, not to psychic extrasensing phenomena :-).

Seriously, I just think that an additional caution has to be applied when

stepping into such considerations, as not to loose ground. But I am myself

making them.

I am still very busy, so I am not listing all the reflections I would have

to this, just to say that my (just accepted) abstract for Prague meeting on

electrosensitivity is partially concerning the " other phenomena " . (The

abstract is below, I would post the whole paper when finished. Any comments

on abstract, including rude criticism :-) are appreciated.)

Drasko Cvijovic, GHOSTBUSTERS, serene environment consultancy, BELGRADE

Branislav Vulovic, VINCA, institute of nuclear sciences, radiation

protection laboratory, BELGRADE

On Elusiveness of Relationship between EM Field Parameters and the

Discomfort Reported by Electrosensitive Persons

- abstract-

Despites the evident fact that some people react adversely to operation of

certain electric devices that emit extremely low electromagnetic fields,

there has not been much success in establishing a strict dose / response

relationship between EMF parameters and the related subjective / objective

changes with Electrosensitive persons.

That relationship seems to be so elusive that even the role of EMF can be

questioned.

We list two groups of facts that apparently contradict the simplified image

of what ES phenomenon is:

- Expected ES response fails to occur in relation to certain EM field.

- A response similar to ES occurs without EM field.

We discuss possible explanations, suggesting that ES seems to be more

comparable to other phenomena, than to " radiation effects " (such as thermal

impact of EMF).

This paper has been based on our practical experience and failure in

attempts to predict reactions of ES people in particular environment

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Cleaning bad energy from home with pranic healing sweeping

>

> Today I decided to revisit all the tools I've collected to help me with my

> bioenergy system & EMF.

>

> I started thinking that we have been focusing so much on actual

electrically

> powered devices and protecting from EMF from these devices. But very

seldom

> do I see any mention of protecting from other forms of energy.

>

> A good example is a messy house. When one cleans up the energy completely

> changes.

>

> I have noticed that when I do pranic healing exercises, they directly

impact

> my energy system so can relax and balance after EMF exposure.

>

> This next procedure may not be for everyone, but those that want new tools

> to clear bad energy from living quarters may find this useful.

>

> This tool I learned from pranic healing can clean bad energy from their

> home, office, crystal, EMF protection device, etc., with a simple pranic

> healing exercise. It is called " sweeping " .

>

> To do this, say a short prayer to your greater power, asking to assist to

> cleanse this object. Then you just have to imagine the front of your home

&

> yard, or whichever object you want to clean. Then shrink it down to a

> dollhouse size so it is in front of you (unless its already very small).

> Imagine that the object has bad energy that needs cleaning all around it

> like a globe. Then take hands and act like you running your fingers

through

> long strands of hair in a downward motion from top to bottom of

> house/yard/object starting in the middle. Keep fingers together in the

> first sweep (to dig deep into bad energy), then open fingers on second

sweep

> to cover the width. At the bottom of each sweep, flick your fingers

either

> into a bowl with salty water, or in direction of ocean (even if ocean is

> 100s of miles away) - this disolves the bad energy. Then take hands and

> move apart further, to continue sweeping bad energy from top to bottom.

Do

> this until you reach the sides of the house/object. It usually takes 5

sets

> of sweeping to cover all the vertical areas to reach sides of house. Then

> imagine the back of the house/yard in front of you the size of a doll

house.

> Do the same starting at center sweeping from top to bottom and going

> around to the sides of the house. Again flicking fingers towards salt

> water. At the end say " stablize with blue light " and imagine blue light

> surrounding object for a moment to stablize it. When finished, wash hands

> with water to make sure bad energy doesn't stick to hands. Then thank

your

> greater power for assisting you with this energy cleanse.

>

> I notice a complete change in energy in my home whether it is messy or not

> when I do this procedure.

>

> I am going to try it more often to see how it impacts my EMF in general

> terms. I know pranic healing helps my EMF directly, but curious how

> sweeping my home and EMF devices impacts my EMF.

>

> There is an inexpensive book called " Miracles Through Pranic Healing " , by

> Master Choa Kok Sui, available at Amazon and pranic healing associations

> around the world, in most international languages.

> This book covers the above sweeping, and all the procedures to do energy

> cleansing of chakras of body. It takes only days to learn it. It is

> important to follow instructions in book, energizing only what it tells

you

> to (after cleaning bad energy one can re-energize with fresh energy), and

> cleaning hands with water afterwards.

>

> Glenn

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Glenn,

" A good example is a messy house. When one cleans up the energy

completely changes. "

Yes - I am usually knackered :-)

I relate a lot of this back to stress. Clutter causes stress in a

claustraphobic way, EMF appears to cause stress via adrenal production..

So maybe its possible you are removing from your mind the stress caused

by concern for a part of your house.. I dont know.. I do agree with you

that a clean simple house is much easier to live in..

When you talk about negative energy, are you of the opinion that it is

benign, or intelligent? - I ask due to your comment on praying to your

highest power..

As an aside we stayed in a wooden cabin on the weekend, and I got some

great sleep (I guess the view of the lake, and the ski-ing helped :-)

I mostly find that strong physical exercise helps me to relax

afterwards. Oh, and the couple of JD's and coke..!

Cheers

Pete

Glenn wrote:

> Today I decided to revisit all the tools I've collected to help me

> with my

> bioenergy system & EMF.

>

> I started thinking that we have been focusing so much on actual

> electrically

> powered devices and protecting from EMF from these devices. But very

> seldom

> do I see any mention of protecting from other forms of energy.

>

> A good example is a messy house. When one cleans up the energy

> completely

> changes.

>

> I have noticed that when I do pranic healing exercises, they directly

> impact

> my energy system so can relax and balance after EMF exposure.

>

> This next procedure may not be for everyone, but those that want new

> tools

> to clear bad energy from living quarters may find this useful.

>

> This tool I learned from pranic healing can clean bad energy from their

> home, office, crystal, EMF protection device, etc., with a simple pranic

> healing exercise. It is called " sweeping " .

>

> To do this, say a short prayer to your greater power, asking to assist to

> cleanse this object. Then you just have to imagine the front of your

> home &

> yard, or whichever object you want to clean. Then shrink it down to a

> dollhouse size so it is in front of you (unless its already very small).

> Imagine that the object has bad energy that needs cleaning all around it

> like a globe. Then take hands and act like you running your fingers

> through

> long strands of hair in a downward motion from top to bottom of

> house/yard/object starting in the middle. Keep fingers together in the

> first sweep (to dig deep into bad energy), then open fingers on second

> sweep

> to cover the width. At the bottom of each sweep, flick your fingers

> either

> into a bowl with salty water, or in direction of ocean (even if ocean is

> 100s of miles away) - this disolves the bad energy. Then take hands and

> move apart further, to continue sweeping bad energy from top to

> bottom. Do

> this until you reach the sides of the house/object. It usually takes

> 5 sets

> of sweeping to cover all the vertical areas to reach sides of house.

> Then

> imagine the back of the house/yard in front of you the size of a doll

> house.

> Do the same starting at center sweeping from top to bottom and going

> around to the sides of the house. Again flicking fingers towards salt

> water. At the end say " stablize with blue light " and imagine blue light

> surrounding object for a moment to stablize it. When finished, wash

> hands

> with water to make sure bad energy doesn't stick to hands. Then thank

> your

> greater power for assisting you with this energy cleanse.

>

> I notice a complete change in energy in my home whether it is messy or

> not

> when I do this procedure.

>

> I am going to try it more often to see how it impacts my EMF in general

> terms. I know pranic healing helps my EMF directly, but curious how

> sweeping my home and EMF devices impacts my EMF.

>

> There is an inexpensive book called " Miracles Through Pranic Healing " , by

> Master Choa Kok Sui, available at Amazon and pranic healing associations

> around the world, in most international languages.

> This book covers the above sweeping, and all the procedures to do energy

> cleansing of chakras of body. It takes only days to learn it. It is

> important to follow instructions in book, energizing only what it

> tells you

> to (after cleaning bad energy one can re-energize with fresh energy), and

> cleaning hands with water afterwards.

>

> Glenn

>

>

>

> *

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>When you talk about negative energy, are you of the opinion that it is

>benign, or intelligent? - I ask due to your comment on praying to your

>highest power..

Another good question. I have never thought of it this way. It is part of

the ritual in pranic healing to do prayer. It seems it would make the

energy intelligent.

It may be benign as it relates to the energy, and intelligent as it relates

to creating a focused goal and attracting other healers energy around the

world for a moment to your procedure.

One reason that EMF devices like SpringLife Polarizer or Rejuevenizer may be

effective, is that they help to block EMF from clogging natural/spiritual

energy channels to body. It is those natural/spiritual energy channels that

I believe we are working with when saying a prayer before doing energy work.

Regards,

Glenn

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This is so right. Together with the ES I have begone to feel peoples

energies and somehow heal (only done this with friends, eg taking

away headaches). I feel bad thoughts and blocks sometimes in a

similar way as I used to feel a computer and now feel let s say a

cell phone. I also get disoriented if there is rotting food in a

house, think that is entities. Sweeping people works and a weakness

might in the end turn out to be a strenghth. I think this is how the

EMF Balancing Technique works, has anyone tried this treatment??

Sweeping can be done through fire, use incense or smudging sticks to

clean your house and new objects and your aura. I have not gotten my

hands on Sage smudging sticks but would recommend burning sage.

Cleaning through fire is no joke.

There is also an easy way to clean through water. Just take a bowl

of it and pray. Throw some water in the room you want to clear of

bad energy. Saying in Jesus name I clean this room. Or get a shaman

in but you can do it yourself!!

(Or whatever is your approach to Hierarchy, Light, Light, Agni,

Agni, Purity Clean etc.)

Yes blue light

> Today I decided to revisit all the tools I've collected to help me

with my

> bioenergy system & EMF.

>

> I started thinking that we have been focusing so much on actual

electrically

> powered devices and protecting from EMF from these devices. But

very seldom

> do I see any mention of protecting from other forms of energy.

>

> A good example is a messy house. When one cleans up the energy

completely

> changes.

>

> I have noticed that when I do pranic healing exercises, they

directly impact

> my energy system so can relax and balance after EMF exposure.

>

> This next procedure may not be for everyone, but those that want

new tools

> to clear bad energy from living quarters may find this useful.

>

> This tool I learned from pranic healing can clean bad energy from

their

> home, office, crystal, EMF protection device, etc., with a simple

pranic

> healing exercise. It is called " sweeping " .

>

> To do this, say a short prayer to your greater power, asking to

assist to

> cleanse this object. Then you just have to imagine the front of

your home &

> yard, or whichever object you want to clean. Then shrink it down

to a

> dollhouse size so it is in front of you (unless its already very

small).

> Imagine that the object has bad energy that needs cleaning all

around it

> like a globe. Then take hands and act like you running your

fingers through

> long strands of hair in a downward motion from top to bottom of

> house/yard/object starting in the middle. Keep fingers together

in the

> first sweep (to dig deep into bad energy), then open fingers on

second sweep

> to cover the width. At the bottom of each sweep, flick your

fingers either

> into a bowl with salty water, or in direction of ocean (even if

ocean is

> 100s of miles away) - this disolves the bad energy. Then take

hands and

> move apart further, to continue sweeping bad energy from top to

bottom. Do

> this until you reach the sides of the house/object. It usually

takes 5 sets

> of sweeping to cover all the vertical areas to reach sides of

house. Then

> imagine the back of the house/yard in front of you the size of a

doll house.

> Do the same starting at center sweeping from top to bottom and

going

> around to the sides of the house. Again flicking fingers towards

salt

> water. At the end say " stablize with blue light " and imagine blue

light

> surrounding object for a moment to stablize it. When finished,

wash hands

> with water to make sure bad energy doesn't stick to hands. Then

thank your

> greater power for assisting you with this energy cleanse.

>

> I notice a complete change in energy in my home whether it is

messy or not

> when I do this procedure.

>

> I am going to try it more often to see how it impacts my EMF in

general

> terms. I know pranic healing helps my EMF directly, but curious

how

> sweeping my home and EMF devices impacts my EMF.

>

> There is an inexpensive book called " Miracles Through Pranic

Healing " , by

> Master Choa Kok Sui, available at Amazon and pranic healing

associations

> around the world, in most international languages.

> This book covers the above sweeping, and all the procedures to do

energy

> cleansing of chakras of body. It takes only days to learn it. It

is

> important to follow instructions in book, energizing only what it

tells you

> to (after cleaning bad energy one can re-energize with fresh

energy), and

> cleaning hands with water afterwards.

>

> Glenn

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Hello,

Cleaning bad energy from home with pranic healing sweeping does NOT work for

electrosensible people.

I have had a demonstration day in a small hall.

Beforehand somebody had cleaned the hall according to Downsett.

An ElectroSmog Killer was placed there also, and somebody had brought a new

gadget, which should clear everything harmfull.

Aside the hall was an enormous GSM mast placed, as I found out later.

Despite all the nice gadgets, a lot of people had troubles.

One woman, who had traveled 2 hours in her car left after ten minutes and

drove again 2 hours back home.

One man and one woman, who were electrosensible got there skin troubles.

Heavy skin troubles.

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Re: Cleaning bad energy from home with pranic healing

sweeping

>

>

>

>

> This is so right. Together with the ES I have begone to feel peoples

> energies and somehow heal (only done this with friends, eg taking

> away headaches). I feel bad thoughts and blocks sometimes in a

> similar way as I used to feel a computer and now feel let s say a

> cell phone. I also get disoriented if there is rotting food in a

> house, think that is entities. Sweeping people works and a weakness

> might in the end turn out to be a strenghth. I think this is how the

> EMF Balancing Technique works, has anyone tried this treatment??

>

> Sweeping can be done through fire, use incense or smudging sticks to

> clean your house and new objects and your aura. I have not gotten my

> hands on Sage smudging sticks but would recommend burning sage.

> Cleaning through fire is no joke.

>

> There is also an easy way to clean through water. Just take a bowl

> of it and pray. Throw some water in the room you want to clear of

> bad energy. Saying in Jesus name I clean this room. Or get a shaman

> in but you can do it yourself!!

>

> (Or whatever is your approach to Hierarchy, Light, Light, Agni,

> Agni, Purity Clean etc.)

>

> Yes blue light

>

>

>

>

> > Today I decided to revisit all the tools I've collected to help me

> with my

> > bioenergy system & EMF.

> >

> > I started thinking that we have been focusing so much on actual

> electrically

> > powered devices and protecting from EMF from these devices. But

> very seldom

> > do I see any mention of protecting from other forms of energy.

> >

> > A good example is a messy house. When one cleans up the energy

> completely

> > changes.

> >

> > I have noticed that when I do pranic healing exercises, they

> directly impact

> > my energy system so can relax and balance after EMF exposure.

> >

> > This next procedure may not be for everyone, but those that want

> new tools

> > to clear bad energy from living quarters may find this useful.

> >

> > This tool I learned from pranic healing can clean bad energy from

> their

> > home, office, crystal, EMF protection device, etc., with a simple

> pranic

> > healing exercise. It is called " sweeping " .

> >

> > To do this, say a short prayer to your greater power, asking to

> assist to

> > cleanse this object. Then you just have to imagine the front of

> your home &

> > yard, or whichever object you want to clean. Then shrink it down

> to a

> > dollhouse size so it is in front of you (unless its already very

> small).

> > Imagine that the object has bad energy that needs cleaning all

> around it

> > like a globe. Then take hands and act like you running your

> fingers through

> > long strands of hair in a downward motion from top to bottom of

> > house/yard/object starting in the middle. Keep fingers together

> in the

> > first sweep (to dig deep into bad energy), then open fingers on

> second sweep

> > to cover the width. At the bottom of each sweep, flick your

> fingers either

> > into a bowl with salty water, or in direction of ocean (even if

> ocean is

> > 100s of miles away) - this disolves the bad energy. Then take

> hands and

> > move apart further, to continue sweeping bad energy from top to

> bottom. Do

> > this until you reach the sides of the house/object. It usually

> takes 5 sets

> > of sweeping to cover all the vertical areas to reach sides of

> house. Then

> > imagine the back of the house/yard in front of you the size of a

> doll house.

> > Do the same starting at center sweeping from top to bottom and

> going

> > around to the sides of the house. Again flicking fingers towards

> salt

> > water. At the end say " stablize with blue light " and imagine blue

> light

> > surrounding object for a moment to stablize it. When finished,

> wash hands

> > with water to make sure bad energy doesn't stick to hands. Then

> thank your

> > greater power for assisting you with this energy cleanse.

> >

> > I notice a complete change in energy in my home whether it is

> messy or not

> > when I do this procedure.

> >

> > I am going to try it more often to see how it impacts my EMF in

> general

> > terms. I know pranic healing helps my EMF directly, but curious

> how

> > sweeping my home and EMF devices impacts my EMF.

> >

> > There is an inexpensive book called " Miracles Through Pranic

> Healing " , by

> > Master Choa Kok Sui, available at Amazon and pranic healing

> associations

> > around the world, in most international languages.

> > This book covers the above sweeping, and all the procedures to do

> energy

> > cleansing of chakras of body. It takes only days to learn it. It

> is

> > important to follow instructions in book, energizing only what it

> tells you

> > to (after cleaning bad energy one can re-energize with fresh

> energy), and

> > cleaning hands with water afterwards.

> >

> > Glenn

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Another easy option you can try for clearing areas is Sage essential

oil. I recommend getting oil that is as pure as possible; one company

I know of, www.youngliving.us, has excellent quality oils.

For those of you who are chemically sensitive, check your tolerance to

it before using it.

Just apply a small amount of the oil (enough that you can smell it at

arms length after a few seconds) to a cotton ball or tissue and sweep

the area with it. You can also place the ball in the center of a

room, or a specifically congested spot (corners tend to collect and

stagnate energy) and let it sit while you do something else. You can

also use an essential oil diffuser if you find you like this method.

Air the area out once you're done if you want to.

Try not to touch the oil directly unless you know you can tolerate it.

Using chopsticks to hold the cotton ball is one way to do this. (I'd

recommend setting aside a pair specifically for this purpose since

it's probably not good to eat with them unless you can wash the oil

thoroughly off.)

You can also clear an aura of congestion this way. For strongly

congested portions hold the oil carrier there for while.

Beau

>

> This is so right. Together with the ES I have begone to feel

peoples

> energies and somehow heal (only done this with friends, eg taking

> away headaches). I feel bad thoughts and blocks sometimes in a

> similar way as I used to feel a computer and now feel let s say a

> cell phone. I also get disoriented if there is rotting food in a

> house, think that is entities. Sweeping people works and a weakness

> might in the end turn out to be a strenghth. I think this is how

the

> EMF Balancing Technique works, has anyone tried this treatment??

>

> Sweeping can be done through fire, use incense or smudging sticks

to

> clean your house and new objects and your aura. I have not gotten

my

> hands on Sage smudging sticks but would recommend burning sage.

> Cleaning through fire is no joke.

>

> There is also an easy way to clean through water. Just take a bowl

> of it and pray. Throw some water in the room you want to clear of

> bad energy. Saying in Jesus name I clean this room. Or get a shaman

> in but you can do it yourself!!

>

> (Or whatever is your approach to Hierarchy, Light, Light, Agni,

> Agni, Purity Clean etc.)

>

> Yes blue light

>

>

>

>

> > Today I decided to revisit all the tools I've collected to help

me

> with my

> > bioenergy system & EMF.

> >

> > I started thinking that we have been focusing so much on actual

> electrically

> > powered devices and protecting from EMF from these devices. But

> very seldom

> > do I see any mention of protecting from other forms of energy.

> >

> > A good example is a messy house. When one cleans up the energy

> completely

> > changes.

> >

> > I have noticed that when I do pranic healing exercises, they

> directly impact

> > my energy system so can relax and balance after EMF exposure.

> >

> > This next procedure may not be for everyone, but those that want

> new tools

> > to clear bad energy from living quarters may find this useful.

> >

> > This tool I learned from pranic healing can clean bad energy

from

> their

> > home, office, crystal, EMF protection device, etc., with a simple

> pranic

> > healing exercise. It is called " sweeping " .

> >

> > To do this, say a short prayer to your greater power, asking to

> assist to

> > cleanse this object. Then you just have to imagine the front of

> your home &

> > yard, or whichever object you want to clean. Then shrink it down

> to a

> > dollhouse size so it is in front of you (unless its already very

> small).

> > Imagine that the object has bad energy that needs cleaning all

> around it

> > like a globe. Then take hands and act like you running your

> fingers through

> > long strands of hair in a downward motion from top to bottom of

> > house/yard/object starting in the middle. Keep fingers together

> in the

> > first sweep (to dig deep into bad energy), then open fingers on

> second sweep

> > to cover the width. At the bottom of each sweep, flick your

> fingers either

> > into a bowl with salty water, or in direction of ocean (even if

> ocean is

> > 100s of miles away) - this disolves the bad energy. Then take

> hands and

> > move apart further, to continue sweeping bad energy from top to

> bottom. Do

> > this until you reach the sides of the house/object. It usually

> takes 5 sets

> > of sweeping to cover all the vertical areas to reach sides of

> house. Then

> > imagine the back of the house/yard in front of you the size of a

> doll house.

> > Do the same starting at center sweeping from top to bottom and

> going

> > around to the sides of the house. Again flicking fingers towards

> salt

> > water. At the end say " stablize with blue light " and imagine

blue

> light

> > surrounding object for a moment to stablize it. When finished,

> wash hands

> > with water to make sure bad energy doesn't stick to hands. Then

> thank your

> > greater power for assisting you with this energy cleanse.

> >

> > I notice a complete change in energy in my home whether it is

> messy or not

> > when I do this procedure.

> >

> > I am going to try it more often to see how it impacts my EMF in

> general

> > terms. I know pranic healing helps my EMF directly, but curious

> how

> > sweeping my home and EMF devices impacts my EMF.

> >

> > There is an inexpensive book called " Miracles Through Pranic

> Healing " , by

> > Master Choa Kok Sui, available at Amazon and pranic healing

> associations

> > around the world, in most international languages.

> > This book covers the above sweeping, and all the procedures to do

> energy

> > cleansing of chakras of body. It takes only days to learn it.

It

> is

> > important to follow instructions in book, energizing only what it

> tells you

> > to (after cleaning bad energy one can re-energize with fresh

> energy), and

> > cleaning hands with water afterwards.

> >

> > Glenn

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> Cleaning bad energy from home with pranic healing sweeping does NOT work

>for

> electrosensible people.

It all depends on how one defines bad energy. I agree that people would

have a tough time countering direct EMF in front of cell tower mast using

pranic healing sweeping.

But, pranic healing sweeping is specifically designed to clear bad

(negative) energy from a space. This does not mean it is energy from EMF.

Those other types of bad energy can also impact people with electrical

sensitivity to compound their problem. Just like EMF comes in many

different frequencies and types, pranic healing cleans a certain type of bad

energy or negative energy.

I have experienced great relief from ES symptoms using pranic healing. It

helps balance my energy via energy chakras, which get congested from EMF.

Glenn

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> Beforehand somebody had cleaned the hall according to Downsett.

> An ElectroSmog Killer was placed there also, and somebody had brought a

> new gadget, which should clear everything harmfull.

Of course, whenever you have multiple gadgets running at the same

time, you run the risk of giving an ES person an adverse reaction

from an excessive number of gadgets! I've run into this situations

many times during my experimentation at my workplace. Just as

with modern medicine, " the cure is sometimes worse than the disease " .

Marc

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> The Om pendant is testing yes, says my intuition and I will get it. Pray

> it helps shield from cellular phones ones and for all.

You might also try testing yourself on the Aulterra sticker. I used

to get sharp pains in my head from using cellphones, and was rather

surprised a few months ago when I spent a weekend using a cellphone

extensively, and didn't have *any* reaction to it. At the time,

I was wearing an OM pendant in my pocket, and had an Aulterra

sticker on the cellphone.

Marc

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