Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

[Guest guest]

It looks like that. We unplugged all the devices in the house, TV, computer,

WIFI, microwave, and when plugged into this one socket, it read in the 1000's.

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> > As a guess that sounds like Graham Stetzer filters to filter dirty

> > electricity, and measurements taken with a Microsurge meter; but, I'm not

> > sure.  Only the mention of numbers made me think that, and that " plugged

> > in all around the house " comment.  Seems like it to me, but correct me if

> > I'm wrong?

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> There's a way to check -- there is a photo of the Stezter meter here:

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> http://www.stetzerelectric.com/filters/meter_sheet.html

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> , is this the sort of meter that was used in your house?

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> Marc

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[Guest guest]

Yes, the same happened in my place. Everything was unplugged but we got 1800

reading on one of the sockets. The consultant explained that the  fluorescent

light in the kitchen was on that circuit. Although the light switch was turned

off it was reading high simply because those fluorescent lights are bad

and  " leak way too much " so to speak.  Then we installed a filter onto that

socket and the reading went down. Still, it is an imperative that I scrap that

light asap with or without the filter on it.  

 

The funny thing is that the socket were the kitchen light was reading high was

not in the kitchen but in the living dinning area. Of course that has to do with

the way my place is wired. 

 

I am also understanding  that is why feel bad when shopping,  those light are

simply clustered above our heads...

 

From: Bain <hcbain2@...>

Subject: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Received: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 4:52 PM

It looks like that. We unplugged all the devices in the house, TV, computer,

WIFI, microwave, and when plugged into this one socket, it read in the 1000's.

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> > As a guess that sounds like Graham Stetzer filters to filter dirty

> > electricity, and measurements taken with a Microsurge meter; but, I'm not

> > sure.  Only the mention of numbers made me think that, and that " plugged

> > in all around the house " comment.  Seems like it to me, but correct me if

> > I'm wrong?

>

> There's a way to check -- there is a photo of the Stezter meter here:

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> http://www.stetzere lectric.com/ filters/meter_ sheet.html

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> , is this the sort of meter that was used in your house?

>

> Marc

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[Guest guest]

-Thanks so much. We do have a fluorescent light in our kitchen. Maybe that

was it. Wow there is so much out there to learn.

-- In , " S.T. " <stcro@...> wrote:

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> Yes, the same happened in my place. Everything was unplugged but we got 1800

reading on one of the sockets. The consultant explained that the  fluorescent

light in the kitchen was on that circuit. Although the light switch was turned

off it was reading high simply because those fluorescent lights are bad

and  " leak way too much " so to speak.  Then we installed a filter onto that

socket and the reading went down. Still, it is an imperative that I scrap that

light asap with or without the filter on it.  

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> The funny thing is that the socket were the kitchen light was reading high was

not in the kitchen but in the living dinning area. Of course that has to do with

the way my place is wired. 

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> I am also understanding  that is why feel bad when shopping,  those light are

simply clustered above our heads...

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[Guest guest]

hi, Loni,

 

i meant it wouldn't handle further emfs.  there is a point at which the devices

need additional help to handle all the frquencies.

d

From: stcrorogers (DOT) com <stcrorogers (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

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Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 9:50 PM

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> From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

> Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

> groups (DOT) com

> Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM

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> > Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going

> > on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He

> > suggested one of those to help with it.

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> The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would

> react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if

> you happen to try that particular product... :-)

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> I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want

> to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products,

> or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro,

> but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are

> second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group,

> unless they'd like to speakup now... :-)

>

> Marc

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[Guest guest]

hi Marc,

 

i was not suggesting Loni use the Quantum products; i was asking her whether,

instead of the Earthcalm just quitting helping her, was it possible it was

simply not able to handle new emfs that she had added to her home or someone in

the community had added to the area. 

 

it was explained to me that i could (since i am starting out with the Pro at 3/4

strength already), max out the Pro at some point.  then, all things being equal

(same illness and sensitivities), i would have to add a device of some sort to

make up the difference. 

 

d

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 6:09 PM

> What does that mean; maxed out?  

Yes, " maxed out " seems like an odd term to use... I think

" maxed out " means that the Quantum Pro is not strong enough to

neutralize all of the EMF in the current location.

Although as I recall, when Loni tried a Quantum Products

device (Home? Pro?), it didn't make any difference at all.

Which means that this was not the appropriate solution

for the problem.

Marc

[Guest guest]

So the Quantum & the Earthcalm are different products right?! Do they work in

similar ways? Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 6:09 PM

> What does that mean; maxed out?  

Yes, " maxed out " seems like an odd term to use... I think

" maxed out " means that the Quantum Pro is not strong enough to

neutralize all of the EMF in the current location.

Although as I recall, when Loni tried a Quantum Products

device (Home? Pro?), it didn't make any difference at all.

Which means that this was not the appropriate solution

for the problem.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> So the Quantum & the Earthcalm are different products right?! Do they

> work in similar ways? Loni

They are indeed different products, with a very different approach. I

have tried both, and went with the Quantum Products, although I

certainly could see that the Earthcalm products were plenty strong (too

strong for our household, when you take into account both my and my

pets reaction). And I've seen a few people here and there have good

results with Earthcalm products.

But if you noticed nothing from the Quantum Home, then maybe the

Earthcalm products might be something to try out. They've got a

portable " resonator " (I believe it requires skin contact to work),

and also plug-in models for the house. They've got a money-back

guarantee, too:

http://earthcalm.com/store/

Marc

[Guest guest]

> But if you noticed nothing from the Quantum Home, then maybe the

> Earthcalm products might be something to try out. They've got a

> portable " resonator " (I believe it requires skin contact to work),

> and also plug-in models for the house. They've got a money-back

> guarantee, too:

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> http://earthcalm.com/store/

Looking at the Earthcalm store, I see that they now sell several

items that they didn't the last time I looked. Originally

the sold only the resonator pendants and the plug-in units.

If anyone has any reports on these additional items, I'd

be interested in hearing about them.

Marc

[Guest guest]

hi, Loni,

 

the Quantum and Earthcalm products are different.  i had just thought they MIGHT

work similarly.  i wrote what i did hoping it would provide new info which would

help you get it to work for you again, if you hadn't yet returned it.  of

course, what i wrote also might not apply to it.  but if you have to buy new

things like polarizers, etc, anyway, it doesn't hurt to try various things with

the Earthcalm if you still have it.  it might or not work.  i just didn't want

you to assume the Earthcalm quit working, if it was just maxed-out.  if i hadn't

been told the info i was told, i too would have come to the same conclusion as

you, given your situation.

 

d

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 6:09 PM

> What does that mean; maxed out?  

Yes, " maxed out " seems like an odd term to use... I think

" maxed out " means that the Quantum Pro is not strong enough to

neutralize all of the EMF in the current location.

Although as I recall, when Loni tried a Quantum Products

device (Home? Pro?), it didn't make any difference at all.

Which means that this was not the appropriate solution

for the problem.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Does anyone know the difference in how these two product work? Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 6:09 PM

> What does that mean; maxed out?  

Yes, " maxed out " seems like an odd term to use... I think

" maxed out " means that the Quantum Pro is not strong enough to

neutralize all of the EMF in the current location.

Although as I recall, when Loni tried a Quantum Products

device (Home? Pro?), it didn't make any difference at all.

Which means that this was not the appropriate solution

for the problem.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Does anyone know the difference in how these two product work? Loni

The Quantum Home/Pro seems to transmit a field that adds " coherence " (a

Quantum Physics term) to the area, which compensates for " incoherence "

caused by manmade EMF. It does this via powered electronics.

The Earthcalm plugins seem to work with particular crystals and sacred

geometry. It is supposed to increase your " connection " with the Earth,

which I guess is some form of grounding that doesn't require contact with

a ground source.

Both have been tried by various people with ES. Some have reported

improvements, some have reported no difference, and some have

reported adverse reactions. And having owned both over

a period of many years, I can say that I've had all 3 categories

of these reactions to both, depending on the circumstances.

" Circumstances " meaning my current level of health, current

supplements, and current EMF exposure.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Thanks

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> > Marc, i cant remember if you have mentioned this before, but does the

> > quantum pro work with the uk voltage, or do they make a different one for

> > Uk and europe?

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> The Quantum Pro uses an AC to DC adapter, so you'd need a different

> adapter for UK use. The company may have the appropriate adapter

> for that, but you'd need to ask them.

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

Ada - if you get any news on that front would you post it because I'm thinking

of trying that - Diane had good results from one of the Quantum products so it

could be worht trying.

 

Hope you are well

 

Best wishes

 

Steph

From: betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@...>

Subject: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Date: Tuesday, 30 June, 2009, 5:55 PM

Thanks

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> > Marc, i cant remember if you have mentioned this before, but does the

> > quantum pro work with the uk voltage, or do they make a different one for

> > Uk and europe?

>

> The Quantum Pro uses an AC to DC adapter, so you'd need a different

> adapter for UK use. The company may have the appropriate adapter

> for that, but you'd need to ask them.

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

No worries.. hope you are well

 

Ada

From: betty_starbuckle <betty_starbuckle@ .co. uk>

Subject: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

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Date: Tuesday, 30 June, 2009, 5:55 PM

Thanks

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> > Marc, i cant remember if you have mentioned this before, but does the

> > quantum pro work with the uk voltage, or do they make a different one for

> > Uk and europe?

>

> The Quantum Pro uses an AC to DC adapter, so you'd need a different

> adapter for UK use. The company may have the appropriate adapter

> for that, but you'd need to ask them.

>

> Marc

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