Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

June 22, 2009

> Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt

> vibrations going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a

> chemical taste in my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems)

> program which is a detox.

Could it be the detox that's making you worse? I know that many

types of detox makes my ES worse, and I either have to reduce

the dosage of whatever I'm taking, or discontinue the program

to get my symptoms back to " normal " .

Marc

June 23, 2009

Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going on. Do

those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He suggested one of

those to help with it.

>

> > Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt

> > vibrations going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a

> > chemical taste in my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems)

> > program which is a detox.

>

> Could it be the detox that's making you worse? I know that many

> types of detox makes my ES worse, and I either have to reduce

> the dosage of whatever I'm taking, or discontinue the program

> to get my symptoms back to " normal " .

>

> Marc

>

June 23, 2009

> Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going

> on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He

> suggested one of those to help with it.

The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would

react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if

you happen to try that particular product... :-)

I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want

to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products,

or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro,

but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are

second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group,

unless they'd like to speakup now... :-)

Marc

June 23, 2009

, Earthcalm Plug in device 14 circuits changed my energy level right

away. I plugged it in all the way not in steps, following their instructions. I

know I am bad but that is my ingrained all or nothing attitude. I do not

recommend that. I am able to walk and work as opposed to

being sofa ridden 50 percent of the time. I feel that I still have some heart

palpitations but I am trying to understand if it is because of the EarthCalm or

I am overdoing it in front of my computer reading about ES stuff, way too

much... I am not not healed but it was a step in the right direction.As far as

Earthclam goes it is 90 days money back so YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE. I have

another 50 days to go myself.

I also installed Graham Stetzer filters all over my place. I understand that

filters are only for diminishing some dirty electricity influence around the

house, so to speak in Layman's terms. Now, what I DID NOTICE after installing

filters is my digestion change. After about a day or two and initial " cleansing "

I am able to have a more normal bowel movement instead of loose stools. Sorry to

talk about this but that is how ES affects me. I basically suffered from that

symptom for about 10 years. Now I am left to ponder would have Earthcalm

eventually get me here or did I need these filters really..who knows.

I had to quit sleeping on my regular coil mattress, apparently metal in

mattresses gets affected and makes you worse overnight. That was a CHEAP

solution. However crazy that seems I sleep on a comfortable " non electrical " AIR

BED while I am evaluating this whole issue. I feel better. My hips do not hurt

much in the morning. Hip pains every morning was my alarm clock for 10 years.

While researching ES in the last week or so I came across

http://electrical-sensitivity.info/ , overcoming electrical sensitivity.

Others in this group are perhaps aware of this fellow Gillian Joy but to me he

is like a mental anchor. If he can, so can I. Not to mention that I had exactly

the same list of symptoms as he did and that he had some original relief with

Earthcalm stuff too.

For me and I beleive many of us, this ES had been a major money drain in just a

short of period of time, but I have seen some improvement. I am thinking, it is

my health here and if I do not give it my 100% I will regret it. I am not sure

if it is also common in English but in Croatian we say " A healthy person has

many desires, but a sick one has only one. "

So good luck and I hope that you get some results soon.

6/23/09, Marc <marc@...> wrote:

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM

> Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going

> on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He

> suggested one of those to help with it.

The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would

react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if

you happen to try that particular product... :-)

I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want

to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products,

or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro,

but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are

second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group,

unless they'd like to speakup now... :-)

Marc

June 23, 2009

,

Do you have cell antennas in the area. You need to figure out what is causing

this. I went through horrible time when I moved in to this house about a year &

a half ago.

I didn't know about my ES & finally figured it out. Had a Home Biologist come &

test. He concluded that my RF was very high due to Cell antennas right out my

back window from the school & library. These antennas are hidden a of times now.

That's not all that is wrong with my house but was HUGE.

I know how it feels to have no money to spend & be reacting to everything. I'm

still pretty sensitive but I am doing better than I did. I couldn't tolerate

this house very long & had to live elsewhere.

At least my kids are teenagers. Can't image having this happen when they were

small. I couldn't live in my house & had to leave.

We'll try to help you as much as we can . Hang on! Loni

From: Bain <hcbain2@...>

Subject: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 6:31 AM

Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt vibrations

going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a chemical taste in

my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) program which is a detox. It

corrects your electromagnetic field. It measures polarity and mine was off the

charts. I'm hoping this will correct it. I am overwhelmed with this and have 3

small children. My husband is a school teacher and we don't have the money to

correct our home. Are there any gov. grants? I am very depressed and wake up

panicky every morning. I live in the Athanta area.

June 23, 2009

Hey , Can you keep us informed about how the Earthcalm & filters are

working. I tried the Earthcalm & initially felt relief but it did hot last. I

had all these cell antennas arount however. I am thinking about trying the

filters. What is the difference in these two things???

I installed window tint from Germany to shield the RF in my home & it is a LOT

better. So now I feel like I can address the rest of the dirty electricity in

here. I am still not able to sleep here but I am hopefull!!!!

Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

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Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM

> Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going

> on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He

> suggested one of those to help with it.

The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would

react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if

you happen to try that particular product... :-)

I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want

to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products,

or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro,

but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are

second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group,

unless they'd like to speakup now... :-)

Marc

June 23, 2009

Thank you! I will give that a try. My doctor was telling me about a plug in

that Global Vision has. Does anyone else know anything about it?

--------- Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM

> Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going

> on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He

> suggested one of those to help with it.

The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would

react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if

you happen to try that particular product... :-)

I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want

to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products,

or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro,

but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are

second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group,

unless they'd like to speakup now... :-)

Marc

June 23, 2009

I had someone come out to test indoor air quality and found that there was alot

of electrical output in one of my wall sockets that he tested with a nanometer.

We changed the wall socket but I don't know if it did any good. He wants to

charge me to come back out and test it. Any suggestions? Thanks for your

support.

>

> From: Bain <hcbain2@...>

> Subject: New MCS and EMF sufferer

>

> Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 6:31 AM

>

> Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt vibrations

going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a chemical taste in

my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) program which is a detox. It

corrects your electromagnetic field. It measures polarity and mine was off the

charts. I'm hoping this will correct it. I am overwhelmed with this and have 3

small children. My husband is a school teacher and we don't have the money to

correct our home. Are there any gov. grants? I am very depressed and wake up

panicky every morning. I live in the Athanta area.

>

June 23, 2009

hi Laurel and Marc,

i have been bragging the Quantum Pro up lately--i love this energy conditioner!

as Marc posted last week, the conditioners Quantum sells without the fine-tuning

settings may not have worked for me, because they are permanently set at setting

" 8 " , but my body does best with settings " 2 " to " 5 " . so i recommend the more

expensive " Pro " device, rather than " Quantum Home " . i am also trying out the

" Quantum Companion " for when i leave home, but so far i'm not liking it.

(Steph, you asked privately what i was using and if it still was working and

this the info. yes, the " Pro " is still working great and works even better with

my new combo of supplements.)

diane

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 10:18 AM

> Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going

> on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He

> suggested one of those to help with it.

The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would

react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if

you happen to try that particular product... :-)

I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want

to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products,

or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro,

but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are

second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group,

unless they'd like to speakup now... :-)

Marc

June 23, 2009

hi, ,

sorry i called you Laurel in the last post. i didn't mention it earlier, but i

did the same as ST with my Q-Pro. the 1st day i plugged it in, i found the best

setting for me by turning it up a quarter turn every 15 mins. at 3/4 of the way

up, i tinkered with fine tuning it, since i felt i was getting close to a

setting which worked for me. then i set the other fine-tuning button in the

back. like ST said, the company did not advise this, but i could not stay in

the house at all with a lesser setting. since using the Q-Pro, i am now fine in

this house and only have very minor ES during part of the cycle the fridge runs

(a couple minutes/ hour or more) if i am in that section of the house. i have

no Stetzer filters or other devices other than a 3 prong conditioner which

Quantum sent me free with purchase of the Pro. (I have the fridge plugged into

that; i used to react the entire time the fridge ran, instead of just a couple

minutes.

Marc suggested i try something else in addition for the remaining reaction with

the fridge and i am working on that)

i do, however, also use a nutrient combo with it. but it works regardless of

the nutrients. it just gives me more stamina during the day with the nutrients

(and also helps more with emfs when i leave home). the first several days after

i plugged in the Pro, i had mild detoxing which made me ditsy and clumsy. that

was the only downside. be careful you don't hurt yourself during this period,

if you try one.

good luck,

diane

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

groups (DOT) com

Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM

> Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going

> on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He

> suggested one of those to help with it.

The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would

react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if

you happen to try that particular product... :-)

I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want

to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products,

or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro,

but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are

second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group,

unless they'd like to speakup now... :-)

Marc

June 23, 2009

Marc, i cant remember if you have mentioned this before, but does the quantum

pro work with the uk voltage, or do they make a different one for Uk and europe?

thanks

Ada

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

groups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 10:18 AM

> Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going

> on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He

> suggested one of those to help with it.

The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would

react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if

you happen to try that particular product... :-)

I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want

to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products,

or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro,

but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are

second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group,

unless they'd like to speakup now... :-)

Marc

June 23, 2009

hi ,

i forgot to mention this in one of the other 2 replies i sent you and hated to

write another post, because i have written so many posts already it is like

" Evie overkill " ! but since nobody mentioned it....

a bed with springs will contribute to the vibrating. if you haven't yet done

it, it would help if you bought a foam or air mattress. ditch box springs too

and rethink your bedframe using something other than metal. i personally use a

double high air mattress (be careful there is not metal incorporated into the

mattress itself in the way of coils, or that the blow up device is attached

and adds metal to the mattress.) my air mattress has a detachable inflater. i

put it on a wood frame which puts the mattress about 6 " off the floor

(otherwise, you get cold in the winter if your basement is unheated.) i will

probably someday design a simple headboard/footboard with siderails to put

around this. i did this in my old house with a used " Lind " waterbed frame

and when the bed was made, you would never have known the bed was an air

mattress.

also, for vibrating, i take a quality brand B12 sublingual--1000mcg--before

bed. after doing this and getting rid of metal springs, etc, i have no

vibrating. (it might take you a while to build up to the place it helps you. i

had been taking it during the day for over a year, but it wasn't till i

accidently took it before bed one night that i got results.)

good luck; hope this helps,

diane

From: Bain <hcbain2@...>

Subject: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 9:31 AM

Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt vibrations

going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a chemical taste in

my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) program which is a detox. It

corrects your electromagnetic field. It measures polarity and mine was off the

charts. I'm hoping this will correct it. I am overwhelmed with this and have 3

small children. My husband is a school teacher and we don't have the money to

correct our home. Are there any gov. grants? I am very depressed and wake up

panicky every morning. I live in the Athanta area.

June 23, 2009

> Marc, i cant remember if you have mentioned this before, but does the

> quantum pro work with the uk voltage, or do they make a different one for

> Uk and europe?

The Quantum Pro uses an AC to DC adapter, so you'd need a different

adapter for UK use. The company may have the appropriate adapter

for that, but you'd need to ask them.

Marc

June 23, 2009

> i am also trying out the " Quantum Companion " for when i

> leave home, but so far i'm not liking it.

Are you not liking it because it's not strong enough to

make a difference, or is causing some kind of adverse

reaction?

Marc

June 23, 2009

> Thank you! I will give that a try. My doctor was telling me about a

> plug in that Global Vision has. Does anyone else know anything about it?

Are you talking about BIOPRO products? It doesn't seem that hardly anyone

here has experience with these. On a couple occasions someone bought

something and reported it did nothing, so I haven't been interested

enough in them to try them myself.

Marc

June 23, 2009

>

> From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

> Subject: Re: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

> groups (DOT) com

> Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:18 AM

>

> > Thanks! I talked to my doctor and he believes that that is whats going

> > on. Do those outlet things help that you plug into your home? He

> > suggested one of those to help with it.

>

> The outlet things *can* help, depending on whichever product you would

> react favorably to (which we really cannot predict in advance), and if

> you happen to try that particular product... :-)

>

> I'd guess that based on the feedback over the years, you might want

> to try the Graham-Stetzer filters, or something from Quantum Products,

> or one of the Earthcalm plug-ins. There are also plugins from BioPro,

> but I think the only positive feedback I've seen about these are

> second-hand, not actually anyone who is subscribed to this group,

> unless they'd like to speakup now... :-)

>

> Marc

>

June 24, 2009

I had someone come out to test indoor air quality and found that there was

alot of electrical output in one of my wall sockets that he tested with a

nanometer. We changed the wall socket but I don't know if it did any good.

He wants to charge me to come back out and test it. Any suggestions?

Hi ,

I know all this electromagnetic-speak can be confusing, but can you clarify

what was found and what meter was used? That will determine what to do next.

Was magnetic field measured? With a gaussmeter?

Or was electric field measured? With an electric field meter?

Or was high frequency noise measured? With a plug-in Stetzer meter?

Emil

June 24, 2009

I do not know what was used. It was something they plugged into the light

sockets all around the house. They said it should not be above 300 and was in

the 1000's. in this one wall socket. They said to just change the wall socket

out. We did that but I'm not sure if it has helped because the detoxing is

exaceberating my symptoms. I have slept two nights in a row though since I've

seen the doc. He put me on Min Tran which is a magnesium, iodine supplement,

plus I am doing the detox, he gave me zypan and digest for digestion, parotid

pmg for liver and Drenotrophin for my adrenals, Thytrophin and B-12 with trace

minereals for my thyroid. He also gave me a homeopathic called visceral polarity

that seems to help with my panicking and my sensitivity.

>

> I had someone come out to test indoor air quality and found that there was

> alot of electrical output in one of my wall sockets that he tested with a

> nanometer. We changed the wall socket but I don't know if it did any good.

> He wants to charge me to come back out and test it. Any suggestions?

>

> Hi ,

>

> I know all this electromagnetic-speak can be confusing, but can you clarify

> what was found and what meter was used? That will determine what to do next.

> Was magnetic field measured? With a gaussmeter?

> Or was electric field measured? With an electric field meter?

> Or was high frequency noise measured? With a plug-in Stetzer meter?

>

> Emil

>

June 24, 2009

Did he test RF? Loni

From: Bain <hcbain2@...>

Subject: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 10:07 AM

I had someone come out to test indoor air quality and found that there was alot

of electrical output in one of my wall sockets that he tested with a nanometer.

We changed the wall socket but I don't know if it did any good. He wants to

charge me to come back out and test it. Any suggestions? Thanks for your

support.

>

> From: Bain <hcbain2@... >

> Subject: New MCS and EMF sufferer

> groups (DOT) com

> Date: Monday, June 22, 2009, 6:31 AM

>

> Any suggestions? I couldn't even sleep last night because I felt vibrations

going through my bed. This morning I threw up and have had a chemical taste in

my mouth. I am doing NES (NUtri energetic systems) program which is a detox. It

corrects your electromagnetic field. It measures polarity and mine was off the

charts. I'm hoping this will correct it. I am overwhelmed with this and have 3

small children. My husband is a school teacher and we don't have the money to

correct our home. Are there any gov. grants? I am very depressed and wake up

panicky every morning. I live in the Athanta area.

>

June 24, 2009

As a guess that sounds like Graham Stetzer filters to filter dirty electricity,

and measurements taken with a Microsurge meter; but, I'm not sure. Only the

mention of numbers made me think that, and that " plugged in all around the

house " comment. Seems like it to me, but correct me if I'm wrong?

R.

From: Bain <hcbain2@...>

Subject: Re: New MCS and EMF sufferer

Received: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 3:59 PM