Re: pendants and gizmos

[Guest guest]

> Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than

> metallic shielding...) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to

> put on a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it

> legitimate?

I have certainly felt better around EMF wearing a few of these things --

Quantum Companion, Springlife Polarizer pendant, Mega-Chi pendant, etc. The

Q-Link and Teslar watch did nothing for me though, and I'm not sure

what the other things are that you mentioned.

Marc

[Guest guest]

a - remember - everyone is different and different things work for different

people - The Qlink works for me and the following people have endorsed it and

actually promote it to their friends.

300 PGA golfers wear one, 120 golf championships have been won with this

product, and current players swear by this product.

In addition, Madonna, Demi , Lohan, Deepak Chopra,

, Hopkins, Dennis Hopper, Salma Hayek, Daltrey (The Who),

Simon Le Bon, Jimmy Page, Josh Beckett (professional baseball player), Alison

Fisher (Championship pool player), Shablalov (US chess champ says in his

blog that it helped him win the tournament after putting it on)

The Bio pro cell phone products - well that is another story altogether. I

personally find it risky to believe that you can just put a piece of plastic on

a cell phone and then go on using like before with it up to your head and not

worry about microwave radiation entering your brain. A very famous doctor named

Carlo who is now an expert in EHS - once promoted the product but now

speaks against it as does Dr Mercola and others.

http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com/2008/05/george-carlo-abandons-biopro.html

On 2009-11-27, at 1:51 AM, roxalis@... wrote:

> Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than

metallic shielding...) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to put on

a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

I am experimenting with a QLink right now. My friend says it helps her. Did some

Kinesiology using it last night & I seemed to be stronger with it. Loni

From: roxalis@... <roxalis@...>

Subject: pendants and gizmos

Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 11:51 PM

 

Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than metallic

shielding... ) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to put on a cell

phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

a

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob, a ---

Hope the following is helpful. Certainly, I'd appreciate input from this group.

Anyway, below are several emails to/from Sepp, who seems quite knowledgeable,

and speaks about a German device I've not been able to find.

Regards -

Ken

(Emails follow)

From: Sepp Hasslberger <sepp@...>

Ken Kaufman <kkaufman7@...>

Sent: Monday, October 8, 2007 11:04:39 AM

Subject: Re: Microwave " protection " ???

Hi Ken,

The

device with a spiral antennna and rare earth is called RayMaster SP1. I

acquired mine several years ago but looking around the internet, all I

find is information in German. The company seems to be not very active,

and certainly they did not build up an English internet presence.

One of the few documents available in English is here:

http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:-WotezNz30gJ:www.qlinkdanmark.dk/pdf/Press%\

2520Information%2520RayMaster.pdf+raymaster & hl=en & ct=clnk & cd=13 & lr=lang_en

Kind regards

Sepp

On 08/ott/07, at 14:39, Ken Kaufman wrote:

Hi Sepp -

Thanks

very much for your response. Given the seriousness of the situation, I

would very much like to know specifics of the spiral antenna and rare

earths - are these devices commercially available, or must we assemble

our own versions?

There

are certain forms of antenna that, perhaps, have a " multi-dimensional "

quality; also, EM (effective microbes) are used in some versions of

these devices. The Japanese ceramics fused with EM have a slight

protective effect from what I've heard. Some companies such as BIOPRO

- see www.bioprotechnology.com- seem to document their claims.

Regarding testing, probably the best available is live blood microscopy,

specifically changes in red blood cells. You are quite right -

traditional testing for solutions of an unrecognized problem is not

available.

Thanks for making this information available.

Best -

Ken

Re: pendants and gizmos

a - remember - everyone is different and different things work for different

people - The Qlink works for me and the following people have endorsed it and

actually promote it to their friends.

300 PGA golfers wear one, 120 golf championships have been won with this

product, and current players swear by this product.

In addition, Madonna, Demi , Lohan, Deepak Chopra,

, Hopkins, Dennis Hopper, Salma Hayek, Daltrey (The Who),

Simon Le Bon, Jimmy Page, Josh Beckett (professional baseball player), Alison

Fisher (Championship pool player), Shablalov (US chess champ says in his

blog that it helped him win the tournament after putting it on)

The Bio pro cell phone products - well that is another story altogether. I

personally find it risky to believe that you can just put a piece of plastic on

a cell phone and then go on using like before with it up to your head and not

worry about microwave radiation entering your brain. A very famous doctor named

Carlo who is now an expert in EHS - once promoted the product but now

speaks against it as does Dr Mercola and others.

http://bioproisascam.blogspot.com/2008/05/george-carlo-abandons-biopro.html

On 2009-11-27, at 1:51 AM, roxalis@... wrote:

> Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than

metallic shielding...) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to put on

a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

to all...

Marc, thanks for the list and I found an older email from you too answering this

same question that was helpful also. I guess everyone starting out wants to

know if this stuff works! You mentioned in your older mail that you thought

the Springlife Polarizer might be the best one in terms of not overexciting the

energy field. Do you still feel that? I have tried the Teslar watch - a

couple years ago not for EMF - and found it helpful but oppressive. I felt

like it sealed my energy, made it feel solid and heavier around me, but over

time that feeling felt less positive so I didn't wear it consistently. It did

work as promised in that I could fly on airplanes and certain conditions didn't

affect me like usual - normally my energy is like a weather vane blown this way

and that by EMF, crazy Christmas shoppers, etc. I'd like to find a method

that is shielding but not suffocating or changes how I feel so much that it

seems unnatural.

Bob, so the Qlink works for you but not for Marc? So confusing! It seems

like my best plan might be to find a place with a really good return policy and

try these things out and just see what they do to me. I'll stay away from those

cell phone dots - not using the much at all anymore anyway. And what changes

do you feel when you were the Qlink?

Ken, thanks for posting your email discussion about the Ray Master. It looks

like you've been asking these questions before too. Maybe someone in the

group will know?

Loni, so it sounds like the Qlink aids you in physical strength? Is that what

all those golfers are happy about as well? Do you feel there are mental

effects?

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metallic shielding...) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to put on

a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

> You mentioned in your older mail that you thought the Springlife

> Polarizer might be the best one in terms of not overexciting the

> energy field. Do you still feel that?

I used to depend more on the Springlife Polarizers than I do today. I

think they worked better for me when I was using CRT (tube) computer

monitors. Now that I'm using LCD monitors, I've been using more items

from Quantum Products, as I think these work better for LCD monitors and

florescent lighting. But I also still use the Springlife Polarizers,

Personal Polarizers (which is an entirely different product line), the

MegaChi pendant, and Tachyonized products, either by themselves or in

combination. I've found that all of these help me with EMF tolerance.

But everyone responds differently to these things, and even I've

responded differently to them depending on what year it is...

(depending on what sort of EMF exposures I'm getting, my level of

health, and what supplements I may be taking)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi a

 

I've not been on this forum much recently and have missed a lot of posts, but

what is a Ray Master?

 

best wishes

 

Steph

From: roxalis@... <roxalis@...>

Subject: Re: pendants and gizmos

Date: Saturday, 28 November, 2009, 0:19

 

to all...

Marc, thanks for the list and I found an older email from you too answering this

same question that was helpful also. I guess everyone starting out wants to know

if this stuff works! You mentioned in your older mail that you thought the

Springlife Polarizer might be the best one in terms of not overexciting the

energy field. Do you still feel that? I have tried the Teslar watch - a couple

years ago not for EMF - and found it helpful but oppressive. I felt like it

sealed my energy, made it feel solid and heavier around me, but over time that

feeling felt less positive so I didn't wear it consistently. It did work as

promised in that I could fly on airplanes and certain conditions didn't affect

me like usual - normally my energy is like a weather vane blown this way and

that by EMF, crazy Christmas shoppers, etc. I'd like to find a method that is

shielding but not suffocating or changes how I feel so much that it seems

unnatural.

Bob, so the Qlink works for you but not for Marc? So confusing! It seems like my

best plan might be to find a place with a really good return policy and try

these things out and just see what they do to me. I'll stay away from those cell

phone dots - not using the much at all anymore anyway. And what changes do you

feel when you were the Qlink?

Ken, thanks for posting your email discussion about the Ray Master. It looks

like you've been asking these questions before too. Maybe someone in the group

will know?

Loni, so it sounds like the Qlink aids you in physical strength? Is that what

all those golfers are happy about as well? Do you feel there are mental effects?

a

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> Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than

metallic shielding... ) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to put on

a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

Marc, Are you still wearing these pendants? Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: pendants and gizmos

Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:33 AM

 

> Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than

> metallic shielding... ) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to

> put on a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it

> legitimate?

I have certainly felt better around EMF wearing a few of these things --

Quantum Companion, Springlife Polarizer pendant, Mega-Chi pendant, etc. The

Q-Link and Teslar watch did nothing for me though, and I'm not sure

what the other things are that you mentioned.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> Marc, Are you still wearing these pendants? Loni

I don't wear any one particular thing 24 hours per day, but

I do use the Quantum Companion all day at work and sometimes

elsewhere, and I do have a Springlife Polarizer next to my

clock radio at night, and I do wear the Mega-Chi pendant

when I need some extra energy/stamina (but it also can

help with EMF). And rarely I'll use an Earthcalm resonator.

Right now I'm experimenting with a variety of stuff, seeing

if anything helps with the upgraded cable TV system.

Marc

[Guest guest]

I just got a QLink & I hope it really helps. All those celebs use one? Loni

> Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than

metallic shielding...)   Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to put on

a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

I just got the QLink a so too soon to tell but my face is still burning

while on the computer so that hasn't changed. I do seem to have a tad more

energy but will let know after I use it for a month or so. Loni

From: roxalis@... <roxalis@...>

Subject: Re: pendants and gizmos

Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 5:19 PM

 

to all...

Marc, thanks for the list and I found an older email from you too answering this

same question that was helpful also. I guess everyone starting out wants to know

if this stuff works! You mentioned in your older mail that you thought the

Springlife Polarizer might be the best one in terms of not overexciting the

energy field. Do you still feel that? I have tried the Teslar watch - a couple

years ago not for EMF - and found it helpful but oppressive. I felt like it

sealed my energy, made it feel solid and heavier around me, but over time that

feeling felt less positive so I didn't wear it consistently. It did work as

promised in that I could fly on airplanes and certain conditions didn't affect

me like usual - normally my energy is like a weather vane blown this way and

that by EMF, crazy Christmas shoppers, etc. I'd like to find a method that is

shielding but not suffocating or changes how I feel so much that it seems

unnatural.

Bob, so the Qlink works for you but not for Marc? So confusing! It seems like my

best plan might be to find a place with a really good return policy and try

these things out and just see what they do to me. I'll stay away from those cell

phone dots - not using the much at all anymore anyway. And what changes do you

feel when you were the Qlink?

Ken, thanks for posting your email discussion about the Ray Master. It looks

like you've been asking these questions before too. Maybe someone in the group

will know?

Loni, so it sounds like the Qlink aids you in physical strength? Is that what

all those golfers are happy about as well? Do you feel there are mental effects?

a

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> Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than

metallic shielding... ) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to put on

a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

Hi Loni, I've ordered a QLink too, a bracelet, so I'll report also how it goes.

I was tempted by a few different options the MegaChi and the Shuzi mainly, but

it encouraged me that QLink has been around a couple decades, wanted to try it

first. I gave my Teslar watch another try yesterday and still found it too

strong/altering for long-term use. I'm not sure what it does for EMF but it did

help with me feel calm and solid. Too much so really!

About the face burning, I remember back around 1998 a man I worked with said he

felt that symptom from his monitor especially if he'd just shaved. I don't

think I had much e-sensitivity then, but I didn't dismiss it. I often wonder

what happened with him as he was in a tech job. Is your monitor flat panel?

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metallic shielding... ) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to put on

a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

Hi Loni and a

 

Please let us know how you get on with the Qlinks [didn't know they did a

bracelet!] I saw an [old] article by Carlo where he said the only things

he advocated were ERT and Qlink. I have been trying to follow up the ERT bit and

all I get is Biopro which is now completely discredited.

 

THanks

 

Steph

> Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than

metallic shielding... )   Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to

put on a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

Hi a, I guess my monitor is flat panel. It's a Dell & a couple of years old

so looks flat to me. I think I'm just going to bight the bullet & order a shield

for it. I think that is where most of the EMF is coming from that is burning me

& making me a nervous wreck. I need to spend to much time on the computer &

investment will be worth while I think. Loni

 

From: roxalis@... <roxalis@...>

Subject: Re: pendants and gizmos

Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 9:12 PM

 

Hi Loni, I've ordered a QLink too, a bracelet, so I'll report also how it goes.

I was tempted by a few different options the MegaChi and the Shuzi mainly, but

it encouraged me that QLink has been around a couple decades, wanted to try it

first. I gave my Teslar watch another try yesterday and still found it too

strong/altering for long-term use. I'm not sure what it does for EMF but it did

help with me feel calm and solid. Too much so really!

About the face burning, I remember back around 1998 a man I worked with said he

felt that symptom from his monitor especially if he'd just shaved. I don't think

I had much e-sensitivity then, but I didn't dismiss it. I often wonder what

happened with him as he was in a tech job. Is your monitor flat panel?

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metallic shielding... ) Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to put on

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[Guest guest]

What do you mean about Bio Pro being discredited. My friend has a Bio Pro? 

LOni

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metallic shielding... )   Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to

put on a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

I'll give it a month & let you know about QLink. I do feel a slight difference

with it. You can try it & return it if your not sure Steph. Loni

> Does anything one can wear block or counteract EMF effects? (Other than

metallic shielding... )   Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to

put on a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

> Hi a, I guess my monitor is flat panel. It's a Dell & a couple of

> years old so looks flat to me.

Generally, when someone says " flat panel " , they mean the monitor screen

is less than a few inches deep. The older tube monitors had screens which

were a couple feet deep, and these are NOT flat panels...

Marc

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, an shield for the monitor seems the thing to do. Or depending on

your circumstances maybe just get a new LCD monitor that might be the most

complete solution. I've never had the burning skin reaction but back when I

used to work around the old style monitors the flicker really got to me though

upping the refresh rate helped a lot. My friend I wrote about believed a bit

of five o'clock shadow helped him with his monitor, but that doesn't help us

ladies!

a

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[Guest guest]

- Will do! I ordered the titanium bracelet because I already have a

necklace I wear all the time and it would get awkward to wear the QLink pendant

too. Titanium is supposed to have wonderful shielding and strengthening

properties from the metaphysical point of view too - figured it was a two for

one. Sorry to hear about the Biopro - it would be nice if it could work.

a

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metallic shielding... )   Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots to

put on a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it legitimate?

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[Guest guest]

Ive tried the monitor shields, my exerience was that it helped a little but it

wasnt enough to make a big difference in my symptoms. Since the front part has

to be see-trough I dont think theres is a material that would provide enough

sheilding to the front to really make am really good amount of difference.

Whats probably causing the burning face symptoms is the rf noise generated by

the computer that is getting transmitted to the monitor via the metal

(dvi,vga,hdmi) cable thats used to connect the computer to the monitor.

I currently use a dvi fiber optic extender cable to connect my computer to my

monitor. This has reduced all my symptoms (burning,face,throat swelling,dry

hands,rashes, and fatigue) by at least 60%. This eliminates any rf genereated by

the computer to get transmitted to the monitor via the cable. I also use an rf

filtered surge protector to connect everything to. I also use these things

called ferrite torroids which I wind the usb cables of my keyboard and mouse and

the power suppllies used to connect t=at the end inthe DVI fiber optic cable. It

absorbs alot of the RF noise on the cables before getting to the keyboard and

mouse. These reduced my symptoms an aditional 15-20%

Before I used the fiber optic extender cable, I found that connecting a computer

to a monitor with a VGA input was much more tolerable than using a DVI or HDMI.

Ive tried a few " gizmos " Ive tried an earthcalm resonator necklace, earthcalm

home protector, cone polarizer, a small disk pocket polarizer, various cell

phone chips, and a home made Lakhovsky coil.

From what ive tried I have noticed a difference in many situations with the

earth calm necklace which I used especially with my computer. The lackhovsky

coil I made also helped it gave like a general sense of well being and I felt a

nice little difference when I used it with the computer. I also felt a

difference with the home protector but it made me feel very uncomfortable, The

other things I listed I felt nothing.

I dont feel these things are anywhere near as effective as actually eliminating

the problem, but they did and still help to tolerate some of my EMF symptoms

especially my earth calm necklace.

[Guest guest]

> Before I used the fiber optic extender cable, I found that connecting a

> computer to a monitor with a VGA input was much more tolerable than using

> a DVI or HDMI.

I'm using triple-shielded VGA cables with ferrites on each end for my

monitor cable... it sounds like you think the fiber optic DVI is even

better than that?

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I also felt a difference with the home protector but it made me

> feel very uncomfortable

I don't like the Earthcalm plug-in units when used 24/7. However,

I've got mine plugged into a recycle timer, so it's on about

50% of the day (on for 10 minutes / off for 10 minutes, round the clock).

Also, with the timer, I can easily adjust the percentage of

the time its on each day, so that it is tolerable for me.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Marc,

Yes I do, the difference is night and day. When I was using a VGA cable the

difference was like 12-15% better at reducing my symptoms. The difference using

a fiber optic extender is at least 60% better at reducing my symptoms.

The two ferrites at the end of your cable reduce RF only a really tiny bit. A

cable needs at least 10-20 turns of the cable on a ferrite to really reduce RF

on it.

[Guest guest]

Marc,

Yes I do, the difference is night and day. When I was using a VGA cable the

difference was like 12-15% better at reducing my symptoms. The difference using

a fiber optic extender is at least 60% better at reducing my symptoms.

The two ferrites at the end of your cable reduce RF only a really tiny bit. A

cable needs at least 10-20 turns of the cable on a ferrite to really reduce RF

on it.

-Cristian

[Guest guest]

Hi a

 

I must check out the titanium bracelet. You mention another neckklace which the

Qlink pendant would get in the way of. Is it by any chance of gold or metal? Its

just I used to wear a little silver cross all the time - couldn't bear to take

it of - and then after that a little gold one - I stopped wearing all metal

jewelry rings watch the lot because metals on or near the body even on a belt

buckle or eyeglass frames can make things worse - I cannot say for sure whether

it has helped and I feel kind of " bare " without any jewellry but you should

think about this too - do a trial and see for a bit if removing metal jewellry

makes a difference.

 

best wishes

 

Steph

From: roxalis@... <roxalis@...>

Subject: Re: pendants and gizmos

Date: Monday, 30 November, 2009, 19:41

 

- Will do! I ordered the titanium bracelet because I already have a

necklace I wear all the time and it would get awkward to wear the QLink pendant

too. Titanium is supposed to have wonderful shielding and strengthening

properties from the metaphysical point of view too - figured it was a two for

one. Sorry to hear about the Biopro - it would be nice if it could work.

a

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metallic shielding... )   Qlink, Teslar, Bioshield, Shuzi, strange dots

to put on a cell phone, things that claim to cancel fields....any of it

legitimate?

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