Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 > I've had MCS for years, and now ES for a few years, and I can tell you > with certainty for myself from my own history the only way I've ever > successfully delt with an MCS or ES issue was to get away from it. > I've tried about everything, and nothing really significantly > changes anything. Ask anyone on this list and they'll probably > tell you about getting over things for a bit, then relapsing, etc. Actually, I've seen people report that they've gotten over their MCS and ES, and have NEVER come back to report a relapse. Myself, I am significantly improved, and have been that way for several years. Certainly I don't have any problems any longer with airplanes, driving, power lines, telephones, while I am still bothered by computer monitors and florescent lighting. Also, while I'm sure that you've probably tried a LOT of things (perhaps you've listed them in a previous post?), I don't think anyone can claim to have tried " everything " . For example, I also tell people that I've tried about everything, when in actuality I could name all sorts of things that I know about but never bothered to try (e.g. acupuncture, ayurvedic medicine, chinese medicine) As for specifics, I have probably tried several hundred different things over the past 6 years, but as for those things that have made a significant difference over the years, well, there are very few: - EMF protection devices from Quantum Products - Microhydrin / Mega-H / Ultimate Mega-H (antioxidant) - Cellfood (mineral / oxygen supplement) - mercury filling removal - NDF (heavy metal chelator) - EMF protection devices from Springlife Polarity - Agrisept-L (citrus seed extract anti-fungal) And I find that even those people who have claimed to have tried " everything " have most likely tried hardly any of the above items... :-) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 > Certainly I don't have any problems any longer with > airplanes, driving, power lines, telephones, while I am still > bothered by computer monitors and florescent lighting. Oh, I should also add that my exposure to computer monitors and florescent lighting is high. I work 40 hours per week in a building lit by florescent lights, and sitting in front of a computer monitor. And I also spend a significant amount of time in front of a computer at home. So with a change of profession and hobbies, I could consider myself " ES free " already... my wife works as a yoga instructor -- I would have no problems at all with that sort of environment... (although the dimmer switches in her studio used to be a big problem for me) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Marc - You're right, of your list I've tried the quantum products with debatable help for me if any and i have had my mercury fillings removed. i do take lots of antioxidants and trace minerals. Of your list maybe I will try the polarizer - which one did you find works the best for you? On 3/12/07, Marc <marc@...> wrote: > > > I've had MCS for years, and now ES for a few years, and I can tell you > > with certainty for myself from my own history the only way I've ever > > successfully delt with an MCS or ES issue was to get away from it. > > I've tried about everything, and nothing really significantly > > changes anything. Ask anyone on this list and they'll probably > > tell you about getting over things for a bit, then relapsing, etc. > > Actually, I've seen people report that they've gotten over their > MCS and ES, and have NEVER come back to report a relapse. Myself, > I am significantly improved, and have been that way for several > years. Certainly I don't have any problems any longer with > airplanes, driving, power lines, telephones, while I am still > bothered by computer monitors and florescent lighting. > > Also, while I'm sure that you've probably tried a LOT of things > (perhaps you've listed them in a previous post?), I don't think > anyone can claim to have tried " everything " . For example, I > also tell people that I've tried about everything, when in > actuality I could name all sorts of things that I know about > but never bothered to try (e.g. acupuncture, ayurvedic medicine, > chinese medicine) > > As for specifics, I have probably tried several hundred different > things over the past 6 years, but as for those things that have > made a significant difference over the years, well, there are very > few: > > - EMF protection devices from Quantum Products > - Microhydrin / Mega-H / Ultimate Mega-H (antioxidant) > - Cellfood (mineral / oxygen supplement) > - mercury filling removal > - NDF (heavy metal chelator) > - EMF protection devices from Springlife Polarity > - Agrisept-L (citrus seed extract anti-fungal) > > And I find that even those people who have claimed to have tried > " everything " have most likely tried hardly any of the above > items... :-) > > Marc > > -- Coffman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 > You're right, of your list I've tried the quantum products with debatable > help for me if any and i have had my mercury fillings removed. i do take > lots of antioxidants and trace minerals. Of your list maybe I will try > the polarizer - which one did you find works the best for you? For me, I use the smaller Springlife Polarizers, which are about 1.5 " and 3 " long: http://choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/sprnglfunits.html The larger sizes are certainly stronger, but for me stronger is not necessarily better, as that usually gives me unpleasant detox symptoms. I suspect that my body mobilizes toxins when I'm using these, so I have to make sure that I don't overdo it. So basically I could use the larger sizes for short periods each day, or the smaller sizes for long periods. As for antioxidants and trace minerals, again I'm being very specific with my recommendations -- I've tried at least a dozen antioxidant suppements and at least a dozen mineral supplements, and for me, Mega-H and Cellfood are unique. But I probably should stress the " for me " part, as I've heard from others who saw no benefit from trying either. Also, a popular supplement these days for toxin removal is a liquid zeolite product called " NCD " . I find that I'm really intolerant of this product at even a fraction of the recommended dosage, but this actually could be a sign that it could really be beneficial in the longterm if I could gradually build up a tolerance to it. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 hi marc what cell food and mega h are you using thanks On 12 Mar 2007, at 20:54, Marc wrote: > > You're right, of your list I've tried the quantum products with > debatable > > help for me if any and i have had my mercury fillings removed. i do > take > > lots of antioxidants and trace minerals. Of your list maybe I will > try > > the polarizer - which one did you find works the best for you? > > For me, I use the smaller Springlife Polarizers, which are about 1.5 " > and 3 " long: > > http://choosecra.com/htmlpages/homepage/prodinfo/sprnglfunits.html > > The larger sizes are certainly stronger, but for me stronger is not > necessarily better, as that usually gives me unpleasant detox > symptoms. > I suspect that my body mobilizes toxins when I'm using these, so > I have to make sure that I don't overdo it. So basically I could > use the larger sizes for short periods each day, or the smaller > sizes for long periods. > > As for antioxidants and trace minerals, again I'm being very specific > with my recommendations -- I've tried at least a dozen antioxidant > suppements and at least a dozen mineral supplements, and for me, > Mega-H and Cellfood are unique. But I probably should stress > the " for me " part, as I've heard from others who saw no benefit > from trying either. > > Also, a popular supplement these days for toxin removal is > a liquid zeolite product called " NCD " . I find that I'm really > intolerant of this product at even a fraction of the recommended > dosage, but this actually could be a sign that it could really > be beneficial in the longterm if I could gradually build up > a tolerance to it. > > Marc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 > what cell food and mega h are you using I'm not sure I understand your question, but here are links to what I'm using: Ultimate Mega-H (From Vision E3Live) http://www.e3live.com/ultimate_megah.htm I'm using the powder (1/4 scoop at a time) mixed into a glass of water. Cellfood (From Lumina Health): http://www.luminahealth.com/products/cellfood.htm I use a couple drops mixed into a glass of water. I find that the Mega-H is useful for quick relief of ES symptoms. The Cellfood is useful for non-ES problems, like allergies, energy levels, chemical sensivities, oxygen starvation... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 sorry martin thats what i meant what brand of the products you are using.. can you tell me why you use e3 live for mega h over patrick flanagans one. best pete On 14 Mar 2007, at 22:03, Marc wrote: > > what cell food and mega h are you using > > I'm not sure I understand your question, but here > are links to what I'm using: > > Ultimate Mega-H (From Vision E3Live) > http://www.e3live.com/ultimate_megah.htm > > I'm using the powder (1/4 scoop at a time) mixed into > a glass of water. > > Cellfood (From Lumina Health): > http://www.luminahealth.com/products/cellfood.htm > > I use a couple drops mixed into a glass of water. > > I find that the Mega-H is useful for quick relief > of ES symptoms. The Cellfood is useful for non-ES > problems, like allergies, energy levels, chemical > sensivities, oxygen starvation... > > Marc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 > thats what i meant what brand of the products you are using... > can you tell me why you use e3 live for mega h over patrick > flanagans one. The E3Live brand is also manufactured by Flanagan. I get the same positive results from both brands. The only thing I insist on is using the powder, as I notice immediate results when taking it this way, plus I can control the dosage more precisely, plus I don't have to worry about having any adverse reaction to the filler ingredients that might be in the capsules. Also, Flanagan had discontinued the Mega-H powder when I tried to order some, because they were going to start selling " Megahydrate " powder (new, improved). I think the E3Live version is already the new, improved version (although to me it doesn't matter, as they both work) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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