Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Hi Jennie, You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a " strange sensation " when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...> Subject: Metal Objects Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Hi Jennie, You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a " strange sensation " when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When I switched to From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...> Subject: Metal Objects Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Hi Jennie, You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a " strange sensation " when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When I From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...> Subject: Metal Objects Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Hi Jennie, You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a " strange sensation " when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When I switched to plastic From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...> Subject: Metal Objects Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Hi Jennie, You are not alone! I stopped using silverware in the early 1990's. Prior to that I had a red rash on my hands that was quite intense. I noticed a " strange sensation " when I picked up the silverware to eat with so I fugured there may be a connection. When I switched From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...> Subject: Metal Objects Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Hi again Jennie, Sorry about the duplicate emails. Suddenly they got sent off as I was typing. Anyway, when I switched to plastic utensils the rashes disappeared. So I knew for sure I had an allergy to metal. Back then I had no clue it had to do with EMF although I was living 30 yards from a power tower and had been for some time. My research much later clued me into the obvious that I didn't want to face - that in order to get well I had to move. It was suggested to me to get magnetic insoles as I had symptoms of a " negative polarity " . They helped to reduce the sensation I had when touching metal. I had developed metal poisoning as I was absorbing metal that I touched so rapidly into my system. Anyway, oral chelation takes care of that. I still take it daily. I do eat microwaved food but I have very poor taste buds so I can't taste the bad taste you described. Interesting... So much more I could tell you but I want to keep this short. Hope this helps. If you want more deatails/info just ask me. Cheryl From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...> Subject: Metal Objects Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Can relate to the microwave food. I was recently working away and the accomodation I was in only had a microwave for cooking. After about a week , I began to feel really unwell ( still recovering). It really upset my energy system, will NEVER eat micowaved food again. My impression is that the dead and denatured molecules created as a result of fragmenting cells at ultra high frequencies creates abnormal chi which the body reacts to and cannot use. If anything Ive learned from this that live food equals live chi- expensive lesson to learn. > > Greetings, > > I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. > > I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. > > I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. > > Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? > > Thanks, > > jw > > > ________________________________ > From: " paulpjc@... " <paulpjc@...> > > Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM > Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? > > > > > > > In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, > ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: > > We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could > I locate microwave reflective material? > > As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. > Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and > such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my > mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically > > uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the > aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any > cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such > a bad deal for us all ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 hi again, Jennie, yes, i have problems with metals, but to a much less extent than you. i still use silverware and metals in some situations as i have learned over time how to do so. i think what might help you alot is " grounding " yourself. it helped me alot with this. go out in the forest--fairly deep into the trees--or near a large body of running water. sit on the ground with your tailbone touching the ground or on a tree stump. sit there and " unwind " for about 40 mins. if in 20 mins you feel worse, pick another spot. you can also walk barefoot on a beach, sit on beach, literally hug a tree, and like ideas. i try to do this at least twice a week. in winter only i hug trees; i consider this the least helpful option. if you wear shoes, this is the time to wear conductive soled shoes. but you might be like me, where wearing rubber soles helps best in your daily life other than when grounding. it is probably a sign you have toxic metals built up in your body. i am in contact now with a woman in France who is chelating metals. there is a particular way which works better than others and i don't yet know the fine details. if you read French, tho, i can send you the name of the book where this info is detailed. Shoot--i will do that anyway for others to read... it is " Venite's Nu Les Maladies Emeyentes " by Francoise Cambayrac. i got this info via Suzanne, whose boyfriend Konstantine contacted me on this forum for help for her. she is now doing much better and may soon be able to join the firum herself. hope this helps, diane From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...> Subject: Metal Objects Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 11:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 hi Cheryl, didn't see your posts till after i wrote mine to Jennie. we have so much in common, tho i now do not react to metals usually. do you 2 also react badly to iron ore and metal deposits in the ground? that can make me still very ill when i am travelling. di From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net> Subject: Metal Objects groups (DOT) com Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Grounding your body does seem to work for me to. Just taking my shoes off and standing in the grass in the forest make my headache go away. Has anyone tried sleeping on a bed sheet that is grounded to the earth. This is a link to a website that provides these sheets - they are expensive and I was just wondering if they worked for anyone. http://www.sleepgrounded.com/pd-3.aspx?code=6000 Also - where do I get shoes that are conductive to the ground - instead of rubber soles? thanks rewire.me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 > Also - where do I get shoes that are conductive to the ground - instead > of rubber soles? I got mine at a local Red Wing Shoe store (USA). Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Hi Di, How do you know where the iron ore and metal deposits in the ground are located? I don't travel - am somewhat agoraphobic, but am able to drive around the local area. Very interesting that that could also be effecting me. What did you do to decrease the effect of the metal? Sorry if you posted it already - I am behind in reading all the posts. Did you also get metal poisoning? Thanks for your response. Cheryl From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net> Subject: Metal Objects groups (DOT) com Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I'm curious about this (and I've heard of such things before). Here are some thoughts: any ambient electric field will be concentrated near any pointy part of a metal object. any ambient magnetic field will be concentrated near the ends of any magnetic metal object (that a magnet will stick to). ambient RF fields will I think have a larger magnetic component near the object. Bill On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Jennie Wassenaar <ad-in@...>wrote: > > > Greetings, > > I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but > is something I struggle with. > > I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick > feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object > I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals > with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the > worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. > > I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the > food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted > radioactive. > > Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? > > Thanks, > > jw > > ________________________________ > From: " paulpjc@... <paulpjc%40aol.com> " <paulpjc@...<paulpjc%40aol.com> > > > <%40> > Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM > Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity > to EMF? > > In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, > ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: > > We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could > I locate microwave reflective material? > > As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. > Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - > injuries and > such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my > mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically > > uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the > > aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any > cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is > such > a bad deal for us all ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 hi Bill, i notice it worse towards pointy ends of metal, but i can feel energy over the entire piece of metal when i touch it. how much i can feel, tho, is pretty much proportional to the amount of emfs in the area. i can eat now with silverware in both homes i have (i am between houses at moment and hope to soon sell one). but could not eat comfortably w silver in the one house till i used the Quantum Pro. (my other house is in a secluded river valley, but has flooding w asso mold and pesticide issues, which is why we were trying to move.) yes, i also can feel more concentrated emfs between some metal objects or when they are in high rf, i can feel more rf near the object, when not touching it. d > > > Greetings, > > I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but > is something I struggle with. > > I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick > feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object > I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals > with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the > worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. > > I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the > food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted > radioactive. > > Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? > > Thanks, > > jw > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com <paulpjc%40aol. com> " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com<paulpjc%40aol. com> > > > groups (DOT) com <%40group s.com> > Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM > Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity > to EMF? > > In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, > ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: > > We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could > I locate microwave reflective material? > > As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. > Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - > injuries and > such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my > mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically > > uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the > > aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any > cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is > such > a bad deal for us all ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 hi Cheryl, re how i know where ore deposits are.... well, i react then i investigate. lol i live in an area where there used to be many furnaces for forging various metals. that is how i came to suspect i was reacting to ore deposits. i noticed i reacted very often near antique furnaces. you might be able to get a map for this from your state govt or agricultural extention. maybe there is a reason you are agorophobic! es could also contribute i am sure! i have reacted in areas of ore deposits since i was a child. i came over time to suspect magnetic frequencies there as being involved. i also had problems wearing watches from the time i was a child. and i seem to attract into my body electrical frequencies--like i am a capacitor. did many things to decrease my symptoms and suspect various things are involved.... i have been investigating channelopathy diseases and saw a suspected channelopathy involved metal " hoarding " , for lack of a better term. i wanted to share the site here, but have since misplaced it, had my accident and surgery, etc, etc.... as result, i have not got around to going there again yet. if/when i find this info again, i will post it here. i have long suspected there is a genetic component which causes toxic metals to accummulate in some people. the site i read said the lymphatic system function is usually affected due to this and that is another thing which i see as rife in this forum--not only are metals a problem, but all sorts of toxic issues are going on. most of what i have done involves detoxing, utilizing nutrients to strenghthen and heal various areas--esp liver, and treating known deficiencies.... i also wrote a long post recently, if you can look back several weeks (it was sent to in the subject line), noting all the things i could think of which have helped me. this was for es as a whole, but i consider the metal problem part of my es. i recently mentioned grounding and see that as helpful. i recently bought a Quantum Pro--which i think the company calls an energy or electrical " conditioner " , which i just mentioned to Bill here, that has helped. metal poisoning? not sure what constitutes metal poisoning. i did have rashes to some metals, not anything more than that and es type symptoms, tho. i got very ill after amalgam filling removal, to the point i could barely function. i had some chelation. for me personally, i find it helped right away, but did not last. i wouldn't hesitate going there again tho if i knew the doc knew what he was doing and was using the best possible procedure. hence the info i sent re the french book, recently. my understanding is that some beneficial metals are not able to be utilized by the body due to toxic levels of harmful metals. to that end, i have tried after detoxing/chelation to add particular minerals back, which has had some success. i certainly have not been as bad in this regard, tho, as some here, like Loni, who pretty much reacts badly even to beneficial metals. hope this helps, di From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net> Subject: Metal Objects groups (DOT) com Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 hi, i just wear leather mocassins. it is hard to tell what is in most shoes. d From: the_man_whom_would_be_king <robert_connolly@...> Subject: Re: Metal Objects Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 12:49 PM Grounding your body does seem to work for me to. Just taking my shoes off and standing in the grass in the forest make my headache go away. Has anyone tried sleeping on a bed sheet that is grounded to the earth. This is a link to a website that provides these sheets - they are expensive and I was just wondering if they worked for anyone. http://www.sleepgro unded.com/ pd-3.aspx? code=6000 Also - where do I get shoes that are conductive to the ground - instead of rubber soles? thanks rewire.me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Hi Evie, Thanks for all the info! Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I am quite certain that there is a connection between the agoraphobia, OCD and high anxiety levels that I have and the EMF sensitivity. I am currently looking to purchase a home so that I can get away from the power tower that I live near. Finally homes have come down enough so that I can afford to move. It has been a long and frustrating wait for this. Did you demagnetize the watches? That's what I did. Went through them so fast and I didn't have a clue what was happening back then. As I understand it the reason I got metal poisoning was because of my negative polarity which is caused by EMF exposure. Metal is positive, hence if your body is negatively polarized you will rapidly absorb metals into the body. This accounts for the strange feeling that you may experience when you come into contact with metals. I use oral chelation to detox the metals with. It does take more time but it far less expensive than the injections from the doctor. I order it from Health Resources. I have to continue to take it all the time or the metals will accumulate in my body again. During a time that I didn't use it I got a hyperactive thyroid as the metal got into the thyroid gland, as it was explained to me. Nice to be thin and eat all you want but I have to look after my health and take the chelation to keep the metal from killing me, as I say 20 pounds later! Thanks so much for sharing your experiences with us. Cheryl From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net> Subject: Metal Objects groups (DOT) com Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Dear Cheryl: You wrote, " As I understand it the reason I got metal poisoning was because of my negative polarity which is caused by EMF exposure. " How did you find out you have negative polarity? How can you tell? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Hi , How I found out that I have a negative polarity of the body is kind of a strange story. About 10 years ago, long before I knew that the power tower I was living near was the cause of all my illnesses, I shared information about my health problems with one of my ITT Tech students. He had a medical background. He knew about negative polarities of the body because he used to give the EKG tests. He said every so often a patient would " kill " the testing machine. He asked around to find out why and found out that strong negative polarities of the body can do this. I had told him about the rapid absorption of metal into my skin and the killing (demagnetization as it turned out to be) of my wristwatches. So he used a multi-meter to test me with. This was the same one he used for his electronic class at school. Sure enough, it showed that I had a very strong negative polarity. He suggested the use of magnetic insoles which I later ordered from " Nikkon " . They have helped a lot. And for some strange reason I could never seem to get Kaiser to give me the results of my EKG no matter how many times I called them...They did seem to have a lot of problems when I had that test done, as I remember it. That test was done before I got the magnetic insoles. If you demagnetize watches and have a reaction to touching metal chances are that you have a negative polarity. I believe that most, if not all, people with EMF sensitivity probably have negative polarities of the body. Just seems to make logical sense. Hope this helps. Cheryl From: christine_hoch <choch@...> Subject: Re: Metal Objects Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 7:08 PM Dear Cheryl: You wrote, " As I understand it the reason I got metal poisoning was because of my negative polarity which is caused by EMF exposure. " How did you find out you have negative polarity? How can you tell? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 hi, Cheryl, no problem, re speed of answering. i am typing one handed now and take forever. lol i don't know whether demagnification caused watch stopping--windup watches i finally found i could wear a couple days at a time by never winding them. battery watches just drain quickly, but i finally realized i could wear them over clothing ok--as pendants or pins. i can see where your negative polarity idea and my channelopathy idea could mesh and both be true! channelopathy provides an open path for toxins of all sorts into the body. (a recent homeopathy visit netted very bad news: i am apparently a parasite--genaric term-- magnet, too.) it is also possible it (channelopathy) is what causes negative polarity--just a theory on my part. but i can see how that might happen. i have suspected i have negative polarity for some time (due to reacting well to energy exercises aimed to correct that). how did you find you have negative polarity? thanks re chelation info. just having had several nerves, an artery, and 3 tendons reattached i am a bit over committed, healthwise, at the moment to go there. but i think i might look further into chelation when i am better. i was having stellar results with a nutrient combo before my accident, tho. (i cannot tell right now whether the nutrient combo is still working because i am in PAIN otherwise and fairly miserable right now yet. i had to suspend my nutrients because the meds i was on did a number to my digestive tract. thanks for your info, dear! it helps to share, my best to you, diane--but evie is ok too From: Jennie Wassenaar <ad-inameritech (DOT) net> Subject: Metal Objects groups (DOT) com Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 8:50 PM Greetings, I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. I do not eat my meals with silver ware - and it seems like the lower grade of silver ware the worse my symptoms are, I use heavy duty plastic to eat with. I also never eat microwaved food anymore. The last time I did, I spit the food out of my mouth. The only way I know to describe it is - it tasted radioactive. Has anyone ever experienced these types of symptoms? Thanks, jw ____________ _________ _________ __ From: " paulpjcaol (DOT) com " <paulpjcaol (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 4:01:46 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to worsen my condition of sensitivity to EMF? In a message dated 05/06/2009 14:38:45 GMT Standard Time, ad-inameritech (DOT) net writes: We have had our RF checked in out home and it is actually low. Where could I locate microwave reflective material? As for the type of sleeplessness I have, part of it is pain. Electromagnetic energy seems to " attack my weak spots " and make me ache - injuries and such. This is not such a big problem to overcome. The main problem is my mind will not shut down, it kicks into overdrive. My body physically uk replies - I got mine from LessEmf and also Powerwatch as far as the aches are concerned, yes you are spot on microwaves/rf will open any cracks that you have in your health, that is why the chronic irradiation is such a bad deal for us all ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 hi again, Cheryl, OK; that explains it! i nearly killed my doc's EKG! thanks for the info, Cheryl. maybe not All esens people are negative polarity, but i at least suspect a subset of us are. diane aka evie From: christine_hoch <chochcomcast (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Metal Objects groups (DOT) com Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 7:08 PM Dear Cheryl: You wrote, " As I understand it the reason I got metal poisoning was because of my negative polarity which is caused by EMF exposure. " How did you find out you have negative polarity? How can you tell? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 the only thing a microwave oven is good for, is cut off the cord and use it as a faraday cage to protect items from an emp! I was looking for a page, I believe it is in this website; even consuming microwaved water changes your blood chemistry and causes genetic damage. You're just x-raying yourself at a slower rate, that's all. http://www.microwavenews.com/ I've met several people who have trouble with objects feeling hot, or radioactive, shocks, etc. from metals. They cook computers, I fried a tv once, so you're not alone there Jennie. One young woman back from Iraq was able to start her car by touching the solenoid. She also cracked the glass on the front of her mom's microwave by just touching it. So, you would be highly electronegative. Sorry, I had a helpful comment there also, but my head has been unusually fuzzy the past few days, and it just escapes me. It had been doing better till then. ~ Snoshoe > > > > Greetings, > > > > I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. > > > > I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Finally remembered, It may be that some of the items that bother you literally are radioactive, and you are feeling REAL heat, besides a magnetic feel. Just a week ago I ran across a news article about all these objects being sold here in the US that have been made with radioactive materials in China. Right along with the lead and melamine etc. All kinds of things from kitchen items, I think they said a cheese grater was one of the items they'd found. Several years back when I had to fly and go through the xray stuff at airport, it was set very high that day at our location, which they vary that, the workers were all crabby from it too. They would not handcheck my purse and my inhaler went through the xray. The metal canister had that very hot feel to it for days after, and I decided I would not use it anymore. It had to adversely affect the medicine too. I fortunately have gotten off all asthma med. for the year and a half now. This was unbelievable to me at the time, but my friend was right. In small doses, tobacco is very useful for a quick AND lasting relief of asthma, especially at bedtime which night was always worst for me. I've since found several scientific studies that back it up for treatment of that and other things. I only buy the organic, as adding more heavy metals and radioactive materials that have been dumped on the main US crops I don't see as beneficial, lol. I did hear recently that Austrailia's tobacco is much cleaner and causes less cancer than the US's main crop, so that says something too. Just putting that in here, because ?? it might help someone. ~ Snoshoe > > > > > Greetings, > > > > I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. > > > > I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Hi everyone, Speaking of destroying T.V.'s etc. I would like to know if anyone else is having the same problem as I am since we went " digital " . I have a magnovox converter box and I have already " killed " 2 remotes, the last one in just a few hours. It won't change channels at all, although it did at first, and now only will turn the box off and on. I am wondering if these remotes are more sensitive to " us " than the regular TV remotes are - which I " kill " at a much slower rate. Thanks for reading this. Any feedback will be well appreciated. Cheryl From: snoshoe_2 <snoshoe_2@...> Subject: Re: Metal Objects Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 8:10 AM the only thing a microwave oven is good for, is cut off the cord and use it as a faraday cage to protect items from an emp! I was looking for a page, I believe it is in this website; even consuming microwaved water changes your blood chemistry and causes genetic damage. You're just x-raying yourself at a slower rate, that's all. http://www.microwav enews.com/ I've met several people who have trouble with objects feeling hot, or radioactive, shocks, etc. from metals. They cook computers, I fried a tv once, so you're not alone there Jennie. One young woman back from Iraq was able to start her car by touching the solenoid. She also cracked the glass on the front of her mom's microwave by just touching it. So, you would be highly electronegative. Sorry, I had a helpful comment there also, but my head has been unusually fuzzy the past few days, and it just escapes me. It had been doing better till then. ~ Snoshoe > > > > Greetings, > > > > I have a strange questions, I have not heard of this symptom from EMS but is something I struggle with. > > > > I can not touch metal items. When I do I get a very uncomfortable sick feeling. When I am really struggling with my EMS if I pick up a metal object I will drop it like it just came out of a hot over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 > I am wondering if > these remotes are more sensitive to " us " than the regular TV remotes are > - which I " kill " at a much slower rate. Converter boxes are pretty inexpensive items, so I imagine that the remotes are probably not well made. So it would be reasonable to assume that they are more likely to die than other remotes. I suppose you could get a higher quality " learning " remote, and see if that holds up. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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