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You may also want to check to see if you have heavy metal toxicity. Once I

lowered my heavy metals body burden my electrical sensitivity improved greatly.

Carl

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting

information and groups like this are usually very useful.

> Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition

was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my

health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad

neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own

research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house

*could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure.

>

> So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the

electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the

electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's

sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if

protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about

something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I

don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful.

> Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks is

not an option.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

> Regards,

> Rixta Francis in Australia

>

>

>

>

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Hi Rixta,

I would say that if you have had CFS for 16 years it is very likely that you

could develop electrosensitivity, as they very often go together (likewise

with multiple chemical sensitivity). And, as you say, you will probably be

the only person in the environment who's sick.

However there are different types of electromagnetic fields, and different

people react to a different extent to each one - electric fields from wires

in walls or high voltage lines outside, magnetic fields from relays/phone

receivers etc, microwave radiation from masts outside or cordless and mobile

phones inside, and EM frequencies from fluorescent and low energy lights.

For microwave radiation, a simple and cheap meter, the Electrosmog Detector,

gives an indication if there are any " hot spots " , but it may not be

available in Oz. It does show however where localised shielding (e.g. with

metallised gauze) would be particularly useful.

Some basic suggestions which you can try to reduce the effects quickly:

- Avoid cordless and mobile phones, switch off cordless phone base stations,

use standard wired phones.

- Switch off any wireless networks in the house, use wired connections and

modems instead.

- Try replacing fluorescent and low-energy bulbs by old-fashioned

incandescent ones (if still available)

- See if it's possible to switch the house electric power off at night.

Certainly these can be inconvenient to you and your family, but they are

worth trying. Lots of ES people find all these measures help significantly.

It then makes the task of protection and shielding easier.

Lots of similar information in the archives of this group, but that should

get you started..

Ian

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Rixta Francis

Sent: 06 February 2010 21:26

Subject: simple, cheap and easy tips requested

Hello everyone,

I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting

information and groups like this are usually very useful.

Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition

was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my

health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad

neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my

own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around

our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for

sure.

So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the

electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the

electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street

that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy*

way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I

think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep

under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some

details would be helpful.

Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks

is not an option.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,

Rixta Francis in Australia

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Hi Kris,

I have suspected that I'm mercury-toxic - and before I got " sidetracked " by my

electrosensitivity crisis I had been trying to educate myself about Hg

toxicity/detox and trying to take steps toward amalgam removal and chelation.

In exploring what is on the 'Net about this, I somehow came across the work of

Cutler. Many people who have struggled with mercury toxicty, and

suffered through failed detoxes - have become strong " disciples " of Andy

Cutler's method of chelation. Where many other methods of chelation failed,

these people claim that Andy's method was tremendously helpful. Cutler says

that there are many chelation protocols that are simply ineffective - and may

actually make the problem worse instead of better. (He also claims that many of

the " tests " done are inaccurate.) It could be that you are in fact mercury

toxic, and are a " victim " of an ineffective method of chelation.

According to Andy and his followers - you can only succeed in truly getting the

mercury out of your body by taking small, frequent doses of ALA along with DMSA,

or just ALA alone. ( " Freqent Doses " means once every 3 or 4 hours - even

through the night.) One might have to start with VERY small doses of ALA and

DMSA in order to tolerate the rigors of chelation. If the doses of ALA and DMSA

aren't taken frequently enough - you don't succeed in actually moving the

mercury out of your body. Doses that are not frequent enough only redistribute

the mercury throughout your body. A 100mg capsule of ALA or RLA taken once

daily can actually do more harm than good, according to Cutler.

I won't elaborate any more - I'll just give you a link to a website that he

keeps through which you can order his highly-esteemed books (many people swear

by these books as " definitive " sources on mercury/heavy-metal toxicity and

" proper " chelation): www.noamalgam.com

Also, you might be interested in joining the " Frequent Dose Chelation "

group - which is filled with people either going through Andy Cutler's chelation

protocol, or preparing themselves for it. This group is a good way to keep up

with updated information (Andy himself has posted there occassionally) and learn

from some very knowledgable people.

I know what you may be thinking - " Yeah, another guy proclaiming himself to be

an 'expert' - what else is new? " - you may be skepical. But once you explore

the Frequent Dose Chelation group, read archived posts from people following

this protocol (and old posts from Andy himself), and read Andy's books - there

is a good chance that you will be convinced that the guy and his protocol are

legit, to say the least.

~Svetaswan

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting

information and groups like this are usually very useful.

> > Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition

was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my

health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad

neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own

research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house

*could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure.

> >

> > So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the

electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the

electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's

sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if

protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about

something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I

don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful.

> > Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks

is not an option.

> >

> > Thanks for your help!

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rixta Francis in Australia

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Rixta,

There are huge powerlines OUTSIDE your house? Electricity is low frequent and I

don't think there are efficient shielding materials for shielding low

frequencies...

The problem could also be the electricity/wireless phone/internet IN YOUR HOUSE.

At night you could turn off power (electricity) at the electric/fuse panel. You

may feel the difference...

Best regards,

.

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting

information and groups like this are usually very useful.

> Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition

was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my

health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad

neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own

research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house

*could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure.

>

> So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the

electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the

electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's

sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if

protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about

something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I

don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful.

> Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks is

not an option.

>

> Thanks for your help!

>

> Regards,

> Rixta Francis in Australia

>

>

>

>

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Hi Rixta,

Yes it probably will be from the outside, I've once read that you should keep at

least 300 feet (100 metres) away from power lines...

But it still could be from the inside as well, for instance:

-you sleep closer to the wireless phone/wifi emitter than in your previous home

-there is terrestial radiaton (just above your bed)

-...

> >

> > Hello everyone,

> >

> > I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere

getting information and groups like this are usually very useful.

> > Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my

condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years

ago my health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad

neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own

research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house

*could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure.

> >

> > So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the

electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the

electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's

sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if

protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about

something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I

don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful.

> > Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks

is not an option.

> >

> > Thanks for your help!

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rixta Francis in Australia

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Rixta,

Yes, as mentioned by Puk, the tin roof might be the problem,

I hadn't thought of it at first but something similar made me sick last year

after moving in my new home... After one month I (accidentally) discovered that

the isolation in the ceiling was (partially) a reflective aluminium foil. Later

I removed all the aluminium foil and the problem was solved...

>

>

> In a message dated 13/02/2010 02:00:20 GMT Standard Time,

> @... writes:

>

> that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the

> cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure

>

>

> PUK REPLIES - Hi Rixta

>

> You say hv power lines all around the house - What power/how close

> (distance is your best defence) ? I would give you following blind advice -

stay

> away from the house and vicinty for long periods, break the cycle of

> decline, yes do meter to find hot spots in your house especially places where

you

> spend a lot of time such as your bedroom, dont sleep in a metal bed or

> metal sprung matress. Consider getting rid of as much large metal objects in

> your house as possible, certainly do not spend long periods close to any

> large metal objects especially lamps anything plugged in to the mains. Your

> tin roof may be conducting large electrical feilds and re-radiating them, it

> may also have become magnetised ?consider a method of earthing this?

> Consider ground currents, consider corona ions around the HV powerlines

leading

> to increased risk of pollutants lodging in your lungs not good if you are

> MCS.( you can google this) Use an AM radio tuned out to white noise say

> 1600khz (end of dial) to check that your house does not have a major issue

with

> dirty power phenomenon, if so locate the scource and try to remediate it -

> know your enemy !

>

> PUK

>

>

>

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Hi,

Loni: it was insulation material I meant. So the material to make sure the

warmth stays in your house.

On my ceiling, it was standard material but with a " layer " of aluminium foil on

it.

It was serious work to remove it because the insulation (incl. aluminium foil)

was fitted twice. We had to break up the inside of the ceiling. But also the

roof: there are more or less two roofs on top of each other!

When I moved in I handn't thought of it either but over here (in Belgium;

Europe) I don't think it is exceptional that there is aluminium foil in the

insulation material.

Recently in new/modern houses, I think it is often used on the walls. Especially

on the wall where the heater is situated, then the aluminium foil reflects the

heat inside... I checked that as well in my house but thank God that's not the

case.

Of course aluminium foil is also used as a shield for EMF, but as I've read here

and if I understand correctly then you should ground it...

greets,

.

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 13/02/2010 02:00:20 GMT Standard Time,

> > stephen_vandevijver e@... writes:

> >

> > that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the

> > cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure

> >

> >

> > PUK REPLIES - Hi Rixta

> >

> > You say hv power lines all around the house - What power/how close

> > (distance is your best defence) ? I would give you following blind advice -

stay

> > away from the house and vicinty for long periods, break the cycle of

> > decline, yes do meter to find hot spots in your house especially places

where you

> > spend a lot of time such as your bedroom, dont sleep in a metal bed or

> > metal sprung matress. Consider getting rid of as much large metal objects in

> > your house as possible, certainly do not spend long periods close to any

> > large metal objects especially lamps anything plugged in to the mains. Your

> > tin roof may be conducting large electrical feilds and re-radiating them, it

> > may also have become magnetised ?consider a method of earthing this?

> > Consider ground currents, consider corona ions around the HV powerlines

leading

> > to increased risk of pollutants lodging in your lungs not good if you are

> > MCS.( you can google this) Use an AM radio tuned out to white noise say

> > 1600khz (end of dial) to check that your house does not have a major issue

with

> > dirty power phenomenon, if so locate the scource and try to remediate it -

> > know your enemy !

> >

> > PUK

> >

> >

> >

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