Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 You may also want to check to see if you have heavy metal toxicity. Once I lowered my heavy metals body burden my electrical sensitivity improved greatly. Carl > > Hello everyone, > > I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful. > Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure. > > So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful. > Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks is not an option. > > Thanks for your help! > > Regards, > Rixta Francis in Australia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Hi Rixta, I would say that if you have had CFS for 16 years it is very likely that you could develop electrosensitivity, as they very often go together (likewise with multiple chemical sensitivity). And, as you say, you will probably be the only person in the environment who's sick. However there are different types of electromagnetic fields, and different people react to a different extent to each one - electric fields from wires in walls or high voltage lines outside, magnetic fields from relays/phone receivers etc, microwave radiation from masts outside or cordless and mobile phones inside, and EM frequencies from fluorescent and low energy lights. For microwave radiation, a simple and cheap meter, the Electrosmog Detector, gives an indication if there are any " hot spots " , but it may not be available in Oz. It does show however where localised shielding (e.g. with metallised gauze) would be particularly useful. Some basic suggestions which you can try to reduce the effects quickly: - Avoid cordless and mobile phones, switch off cordless phone base stations, use standard wired phones. - Switch off any wireless networks in the house, use wired connections and modems instead. - Try replacing fluorescent and low-energy bulbs by old-fashioned incandescent ones (if still available) - See if it's possible to switch the house electric power off at night. Certainly these can be inconvenient to you and your family, but they are worth trying. Lots of ES people find all these measures help significantly. It then makes the task of protection and shielding easier. Lots of similar information in the archives of this group, but that should get you started.. Ian _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Rixta Francis Sent: 06 February 2010 21:26 Subject: simple, cheap and easy tips requested Hello everyone, I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful. Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure. So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful. Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks is not an option. Thanks for your help! Regards, Rixta Francis in Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Hi Kris, I have suspected that I'm mercury-toxic - and before I got " sidetracked " by my electrosensitivity crisis I had been trying to educate myself about Hg toxicity/detox and trying to take steps toward amalgam removal and chelation. In exploring what is on the 'Net about this, I somehow came across the work of Cutler. Many people who have struggled with mercury toxicty, and suffered through failed detoxes - have become strong " disciples " of Andy Cutler's method of chelation. Where many other methods of chelation failed, these people claim that Andy's method was tremendously helpful. Cutler says that there are many chelation protocols that are simply ineffective - and may actually make the problem worse instead of better. (He also claims that many of the " tests " done are inaccurate.) It could be that you are in fact mercury toxic, and are a " victim " of an ineffective method of chelation. According to Andy and his followers - you can only succeed in truly getting the mercury out of your body by taking small, frequent doses of ALA along with DMSA, or just ALA alone. ( " Freqent Doses " means once every 3 or 4 hours - even through the night.) One might have to start with VERY small doses of ALA and DMSA in order to tolerate the rigors of chelation. If the doses of ALA and DMSA aren't taken frequently enough - you don't succeed in actually moving the mercury out of your body. Doses that are not frequent enough only redistribute the mercury throughout your body. A 100mg capsule of ALA or RLA taken once daily can actually do more harm than good, according to Cutler. I won't elaborate any more - I'll just give you a link to a website that he keeps through which you can order his highly-esteemed books (many people swear by these books as " definitive " sources on mercury/heavy-metal toxicity and " proper " chelation): www.noamalgam.com Also, you might be interested in joining the " Frequent Dose Chelation " group - which is filled with people either going through Andy Cutler's chelation protocol, or preparing themselves for it. This group is a good way to keep up with updated information (Andy himself has posted there occassionally) and learn from some very knowledgable people. I know what you may be thinking - " Yeah, another guy proclaiming himself to be an 'expert' - what else is new? " - you may be skepical. But once you explore the Frequent Dose Chelation group, read archived posts from people following this protocol (and old posts from Andy himself), and read Andy's books - there is a good chance that you will be convinced that the guy and his protocol are legit, to say the least. ~Svetaswan > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful. > > Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure. > > > > So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful. > > Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks is not an option. > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > Regards, > > Rixta Francis in Australia > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hi Rixta, There are huge powerlines OUTSIDE your house? Electricity is low frequent and I don't think there are efficient shielding materials for shielding low frequencies... The problem could also be the electricity/wireless phone/internet IN YOUR HOUSE. At night you could turn off power (electricity) at the electric/fuse panel. You may feel the difference... Best regards, . > > Hello everyone, > > I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful. > Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure. > > So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful. > Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks is not an option. > > Thanks for your help! > > Regards, > Rixta Francis in Australia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2010 Report Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hi Rixta, Yes it probably will be from the outside, I've once read that you should keep at least 300 feet (100 metres) away from power lines... But it still could be from the inside as well, for instance: -you sleep closer to the wireless phone/wifi emitter than in your previous home -there is terrestial radiaton (just above your bed) -... > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I joined this group a few days ago, because you must start somewhere getting information and groups like this are usually very useful. > > Brief story: I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome since 16 years and my condition was always stable, but since we moved into our new house four years ago my health slowly got worse. And since late 2008 I have developed pretty bad neurological problems that no doctor has an explanation for. So I started my own research and realized that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure. > > > > So to start with I would like some tips how to find out if it's really the electricity that makes me sick. I don't need a meter, for I'm sure the electromagnetic field here is high, but I'm the only person in the street that's sick. So I need tips how find out in a *simple*, *cheap* and *easy* way if protection from the electrical magnetism will make me feel better. I think about something I can wear around the house, or something to sleep under at night. I don't know anything about these things so far, so some details would be helpful. > > Unfortunately leaving the house for a possibly safer place for a few weeks is not an option. > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > Regards, > > Rixta Francis in Australia > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Hi Rixta, Yes, as mentioned by Puk, the tin roof might be the problem, I hadn't thought of it at first but something similar made me sick last year after moving in my new home... After one month I (accidentally) discovered that the isolation in the ceiling was (partially) a reflective aluminium foil. Later I removed all the aluminium foil and the problem was solved... > > > In a message dated 13/02/2010 02:00:20 GMT Standard Time, > @... writes: > > that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the > cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure > > > PUK REPLIES - Hi Rixta > > You say hv power lines all around the house - What power/how close > (distance is your best defence) ? I would give you following blind advice - stay > away from the house and vicinty for long periods, break the cycle of > decline, yes do meter to find hot spots in your house especially places where you > spend a lot of time such as your bedroom, dont sleep in a metal bed or > metal sprung matress. Consider getting rid of as much large metal objects in > your house as possible, certainly do not spend long periods close to any > large metal objects especially lamps anything plugged in to the mains. Your > tin roof may be conducting large electrical feilds and re-radiating them, it > may also have become magnetised ?consider a method of earthing this? > Consider ground currents, consider corona ions around the HV powerlines leading > to increased risk of pollutants lodging in your lungs not good if you are > MCS.( you can google this) Use an AM radio tuned out to white noise say > 1600khz (end of dial) to check that your house does not have a major issue with > dirty power phenomenon, if so locate the scource and try to remediate it - > know your enemy ! > > PUK > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2010 Report Share Posted February 14, 2010 Hi, Loni: it was insulation material I meant. So the material to make sure the warmth stays in your house. On my ceiling, it was standard material but with a " layer " of aluminium foil on it. It was serious work to remove it because the insulation (incl. aluminium foil) was fitted twice. We had to break up the inside of the ceiling. But also the roof: there are more or less two roofs on top of each other! When I moved in I handn't thought of it either but over here (in Belgium; Europe) I don't think it is exceptional that there is aluminium foil in the insulation material. Recently in new/modern houses, I think it is often used on the walls. Especially on the wall where the heater is situated, then the aluminium foil reflects the heat inside... I checked that as well in my house but thank God that's not the case. Of course aluminium foil is also used as a shield for EMF, but as I've read here and if I understand correctly then you should ground it... greets, . > > > > > > In a message dated 13/02/2010 02:00:20 GMT Standard Time, > > stephen_vandevijver e@... writes: > > > > that the high voltage wires that are all around our house *could* be the > > cause of my problems. But I don't know that for sure > > > > > > PUK REPLIES - Hi Rixta > > > > You say hv power lines all around the house - What power/how close > > (distance is your best defence) ? I would give you following blind advice - stay > > away from the house and vicinty for long periods, break the cycle of > > decline, yes do meter to find hot spots in your house especially places where you > > spend a lot of time such as your bedroom, dont sleep in a metal bed or > > metal sprung matress. Consider getting rid of as much large metal objects in > > your house as possible, certainly do not spend long periods close to any > > large metal objects especially lamps anything plugged in to the mains. Your > > tin roof may be conducting large electrical feilds and re-radiating them, it > > may also have become magnetised ?consider a method of earthing this? > > Consider ground currents, consider corona ions around the HV powerlines leading > > to increased risk of pollutants lodging in your lungs not good if you are > > MCS.( you can google this) Use an AM radio tuned out to white noise say > > 1600khz (end of dial) to check that your house does not have a major issue with > > dirty power phenomenon, if so locate the scource and try to remediate it - > > know your enemy ! > > > > PUK > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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