Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 > > To those who have used the Springlife Polarizer, a question: Did you > experience an increase or return of your ES symptoms when you first > started using your Polarizer? When I first got my OM pendant I couldn't immediately wear it. The energy it radiates was too strong for my system to accomodate and I could feel its emanations from about 10 ft. away. I gradually acclimated to the energy over a couple of weeks. I still don't keep it on me all the time as it sometimes imparts an extra amount of energy that is too much for my system to handle, especially if I've been overexposed or the environmental/weather conditions are harsh. I normally use it when I know I'll be going into a EM-rife area or when I'm using my computer. I also can't easily wear it over my chest region or near my throat as it causes more intense reaction, probably through heart/throat chakra interaction. I wear it in my pants pocket or set it near me, between myself and known EM sources if I can. Beau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 > To those who have used the Springlife Polarizer, a question: Did you > experience an increase or return of your ES symptoms when you first > started using your Polarizer? I had a very difficult time with the Springlife Polarizers at first. After wearing an OM pendant for about 20 minutes, I had to get it away from me. And then for the next few weeks, I experimented with using it for only short amounts of time, versus keeping it a few feet away from me, versus using the smaller " Lifeforce " model. After a few weeks, I could wear the OM pendant fulltime, but while sleeping I either put it under the mattress, or on the nightstand. Even today, over a year later, I still keep it a foot or two away from me while sleeping. My feeling is that it's just a simple case of overdoing it. Too much of a good thing. The good news is that it's pretty easy to get less exposure using the methods mentioned about. But it may take some trial & error to determine how much is " too much " , and how much is " just right " . > 1. Is the pain resurgence related to the Polarizer? > 2. Is the pain a " detox " reaction? If it is, should be attempt to > moderate this effect, maybe by keeping the device further away from > him until he builds a tolerance to it? Yes, yes, and yes. > 3. Is the pain an indication that the Polarizer is not helping > relieve ES symptoms in our case? I'd say that it's too early to tell. One can't accurately judge the effectiveness of any therapy while one is still trying to build a tolerance to it. However, if he is not able to build a tolerance to it, then of course you're going to have to look for a different solution for now, and then maybe later come back to the polarizers when he's stronger. > I should add that we have had stormy weather here recently and we are > also considering the possibility that our " grounded " sleeping area > has been compromised by altered/increased electrical charge in the > earth where we live. Heh, heh, usually whenever I try something new, there is something else new going on that makes me wonder what the true cause of any change is. Continued experimentation should clear up any doubts. Also, you might want to have him try discontinue using the grounding strip temporarily, so you can see what the reaction is to just the polarizers, compared to the polarizers+grounding strip. Sometimes multiple therapies at the same time is worse than just one at a time. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Beau, can you say more about what you experienced when you wore it too close to your neck/chest, or when you wore it for too long a duration? I'm trying to distinguish between " good " effects and " bad " effects... Thanks. Cara > When I first got my OM pendant I couldn't immediately wear it. The > energy it radiates was too strong for my system to accomodate and I > could feel its emanations from about 10 ft. away. I gradually > acclimated to the energy over a couple of weeks. I still don't keep > it on me all the time as it sometimes imparts an extra amount of > energy that is too much for my system to handle, especially if I've > been overexposed or the environmental/weather conditions are harsh. I > normally use it when I know I'll be going into a EM-rife area or when > I'm using my computer. > > I also can't easily wear it over my chest region or near my throat as > it causes more intense reaction, probably through heart/throat chakra > interaction. I wear it in my pants pocket or set it near me, between > myself and known EM sources if I can. > > Beau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 > I'm trying to distinguish between " good " effects and " bad " effects... I'm not sure it's that simple, because something " good " for you can have " bad " effects if you overdo it. In the case of the polarizers, they are most likely making the toxins in your body less harmful, plus giving your body more energy to rid yourself of these toxins. In such a case, the toxins start entering your bloodstream with the goal of leaving the body. However, as soon as they hit the bloodstream, you start feeling adverse effects. The key is to do this slowly enough so that your body can handle it, or to add antioxidants, probiotics, proteins, essential fatty acids, etc. so that the toxins have something to bind to and hopefully don't settle in some other part of the body. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 > I normally use it when I know I'll be going into a EM-rife area or when > I'm using my computer. Yes, I've found this to be the case as well. Using a polarizer in an unhealthy EMF-filled environment works quite well. However, using that same polarizer in a " healthy " environment can lead me to feeling bad. When I was in Hawaii last month, I quickly became aware that I felt better when I didn't use the polarizer at all when I was outside in the sunshine or at the beach. However, when sitting in an Internet cafe I felt a lot better with it than without it. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 > I'm trying to distinguish between " good " effects and " bad " effects... By the way, when used in moderation, here are the good effects I've noticed from the Springlife polarizers: * reduced need for sleep * increased energy, stamina * increased tolerance for EMF * increased tolerance for air pollution * reduction of allergies However, overdoing them can cause me to feel ill, angry, give me headaches, dehydration, and skin irritation. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Thanks Marc. This is exactly the sort of information I'm looking for-- signposts so we can tell if we're doing it right, overdoing it, or on the wrong path altogether. By the way, are there specific supplements you recommend for this very early detox period? My husband seems to be able to tolerate only a little at a time. Right now he is responding positively to the Seasilver and Milk Thistle. (Not great reactions to Niacin, Magnesium, Glucosamine, Zinc.) If we were to add one or two other things, any thoughts on what they should be? Thanks again. Cara > > I'm trying to distinguish between " good " effects and " bad " effects... > > By the way, when used in moderation, here are the good effects > I've noticed from the Springlife polarizers: > > * reduced need for sleep > * increased energy, stamina > * increased tolerance for EMF > * increased tolerance for air pollution > * reduction of allergies > > However, overdoing them can cause me to feel ill, angry, > give me headaches, dehydration, and skin irritation. > > Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 I had a similar reaction to Springlife Polarizer as Beau. I investigated further and found out that the Springlife polarizer increases the energy on all my chakras (measured in pranic healing), which would often be considered good, but can also lead to energy congestion. So I no longer wear it unless I'm in an extreme EMF environment, and rather keep it between me and the source of EMF. Glenn >From: " Beau " <netfarer2@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Springlife Polarizer >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:20:52 -0000 > > > > > > > To those who have used the Springlife Polarizer, a question: Did >you > > experience an increase or return of your ES symptoms when you first > > started using your Polarizer? > >When I first got my OM pendant I couldn't immediately wear it. The >energy it radiates was too strong for my system to accomodate and I >could feel its emanations from about 10 ft. away. I gradually >acclimated to the energy over a couple of weeks. I still don't keep >it on me all the time as it sometimes imparts an extra amount of >energy that is too much for my system to handle, especially if I've >been overexposed or the environmental/weather conditions are harsh. I >normally use it when I know I'll be going into a EM-rife area or when >I'm using my computer. > >I also can't easily wear it over my chest region or near my throat as >it causes more intense reaction, probably through heart/throat chakra >interaction. I wear it in my pants pocket or set it near me, between >myself and known EM sources if I can. > >Beau > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 > By the way, are there specific supplements you recommend for this > very early detox period? My husband seems to be able to tolerate only > a little at a time. Right now he is responding positively to the > Seasilver and Milk Thistle. (Not great reactions to Niacin, > Magnesium, Glucosamine, Zinc.) If we were to add one or two other > things, any thoughts on what they should be? It seems like everyone reacts differently to supplements, so I can't really say that there is anything that universally works well for everyone. I remember that when I first started out, I responded really well to a supplement called " Cellfood " , and also a one called " Microhydrin " . The latter seems to have a number of variants these days, going by the names " Active H- " , " Megahydrin " , " Megahydrate " , etc. Also, I've taken a LOT of probiotics over the years, mostly " Primal Defense " , which has also been helpful in reducing my ES symptoms. And if there are digestive problems, some sort of digestive enzyme might be helpful. I don't have any strong feelings on any brand, although I did well on Zypan by Standard Process. Also, I reacted particularly well to certain foods, like avocados, bananas, dates, prunes, carrot juice, oatmeal, etc. But in this case I think one should also check with the " eat right for your blood type " recommendations, and if there's a yeast/candida problem then you'll have to restrict your intake of excessive sugars. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Wearing it near my neck or chest allows its energy to enter my system too quickly, causing what I feel is overload and energetic congestion. I get strong headaches, and/or tightness/pain in the chest and throat, very similar to some of what I experience with EM fields, though not as " sharp " . Overexposure to the Springlife polarizer's energy can definitely cause me to be more sensitive to EM fields or chemicals. I view it as a matter of " too much of a good thing " . I'm cautious about using the word " detox " as one of the strong implications is that toxins are being removed from the system. On our list there is a tendency to apply the term whenever there is a negative response to an energy or substance being tried or used for therapeutic support. As these negative responses are many times similar or identical to symptoms we encounter from our ES/CS conditions, it could just as well be systemic overload due to the addition of the new energy or substance. Even if the new symptoms go away after a while that could readily be viewed as adaptation, not alleviation due to toxins being removed. Adding supplements used to help weather detoxification processes and having them help also doesn't immediately mean that detoxification is occuring; your system could just as easily be able to better cope with new energies/substances because of the added nutritional support. As I've seen " detox " used in the list, the triggering of our symptoms through original incitants such as EM fields or chemicals might be easily classed as " detox " , too. Without testing that can measure toxin release, I think using the term " detox " can be misleading and may unintentionally create unwarranted assumptions that may cause unnecessary stress or lead one to take an unjustified course of action. Beau > > > When I first got my OM pendant I couldn't immediately wear it. The > > energy it radiates was too strong for my system to accomodate and I > > could feel its emanations from about 10 ft. away. I gradually > > acclimated to the energy over a couple of weeks. I still don't keep > > it on me all the time as it sometimes imparts an extra amount of > > energy that is too much for my system to handle, especially if I've > > been overexposed or the environmental/weather conditions are > harsh. I > > normally use it when I know I'll be going into a EM-rife area or > when > > I'm using my computer. > > > > I also can't easily wear it over my chest region or near my throat > as > > it causes more intense reaction, probably through heart/throat > chakra > > interaction. I wear it in my pants pocket or set it near me, > between > > myself and known EM sources if I can. > > > > Beau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 As far as I have information, grounded matress to sleep on is not a good idea at all. To ground youurself, maybe, I used it when I had vibrations (movements) in my body, they disappeared, but one time the current was strong and I got a scar from the heat (it is one of the few objective things related to e.m.-fields and the current they induce). If you lie down on a grounded matress you will attract extra low frequency V/m. I myself consider it to be an extra antenna in which currents are induced (don't know if this is true. Somehow it seems everything is loaded by radiofrequent radiation). Nevertheless, tell me, did it help you to sleep on a grounded matress? I don't believe much in the theories of detoxing, chelation, diets etcetera, maybe there is something in parameters of the radiation that scientists are not aware of yet (maybe a longitudinal movement, maybe quantum physics, I don't know). I think so because generally there is a correlation between unwellness and level of radiofrequency radiation, but it is not absolute, there must be more parameters of body and environment. Normally, a body is able to keep homeostasis (balance) by removing or making harmless overdoses of all kinds of stuff. I think the real problem is the currents inducted (distorting your nerve systems and distorting cell functions), the double DNA breaks and possibly more, also not yet understood interferences. Remember, the present radiofrequent radiation is far, far more than the natural background and much of the radiation is of pulsed and modulated types that does not even exist in nature. Of course our bodies try to keep homeostasis and the bodies of many people succeed reasonably, but not everybody (e.g. children are in danger, see the news today, Sir again, but other groups with some defects or weakness are in danger also, like us). This is my idea so far, wish it is more or less helpful. Frans. > > To those who have used the Springlife Polarizer, a question: Did you > experience an increase or return of your ES symptoms when you first > started using your Polarizer? > > My husband started wearing his Polarizer last night. What he noticed > immediately was a sensation of " heat " and " pressure " from the device, > which he wore close to his neck. No immediate noticeable effect on > his ES symptoms, positive or negative. For the heck of it, I asked > him whether he felt intuitively that the Polarizer was a " good " thing > for him, and he said yes. > > Very early this morning he was awakened by extreme pain of the kind > we associate with ES. FYI, he has not had pain at this high level > since we first started our shielding/grounding efforts. We are > wondering: > > 1. Is the pain resurgence related to the Polarizer? > 2. Is the pain a " detox " reaction? If it is, should be attempt to > moderate this effect, maybe by keeping the device further away from > him until he builds a tolerance to it? > 3. Is the pain an indication that the Polarizer is not helping > relieve ES symptoms in our case? > > I should add that we have had stormy weather here recently and we are > also considering the possibility that our " grounded " sleeping area > has been compromised by altered/increased electrical charge in the > earth where we live. This speculation is supported somewhat by the > fact that my husband experienced some relief when he disconnected his > grounded wrist strap and left the grounded mattress to go lie on the > couch instead. But, again, when this much pain is involved we don't > always trust subjective experience/perception. > > Your thoughts/feedback would be appreciated. Thanks. > > Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Hello, I also consider sleeping on a grounded matress not a good idea. It raises the body tension, because the potential diffenerence is not in order. The same idea goes for canopies. They also raise the body tension. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Antivirus Re: Springlife Polarizer > > > As far as I have information, grounded matress to sleep on is not a > good idea at all. To ground youurself, maybe, I used it when I had > vibrations (movements) in my body, they disappeared, but one time the > current was strong and I got a scar from the heat (it is one of the > few objective things related to e.m.-fields and the current they > induce). If you lie down on a grounded matress you will attract extra > low frequency V/m. I myself consider it to be an extra antenna in > which currents are induced (don't know if this is true. Somehow it > seems everything is loaded by radiofrequent radiation). Nevertheless, > tell me, did it help you to sleep on a grounded matress? I don't > believe much in the theories of detoxing, chelation, diets etcetera, > maybe there is something in parameters of the radiation that > scientists are not aware of yet (maybe a longitudinal movement, maybe > quantum physics, I don't know). I think so because generally there is > a correlation between unwellness and level of radiofrequency > radiation, but it is not absolute, there must be more parameters of > body and environment. Normally, a body is able to keep homeostasis > (balance) by removing or making harmless overdoses of all kinds of > stuff. I think the real problem is the currents inducted (distorting > your nerve systems and distorting cell functions), the double DNA > breaks and possibly more, also not yet understood interferences. > Remember, the present radiofrequent radiation is far, far more than > the natural background and much of the radiation is of pulsed and > modulated types that does not even exist in nature. Of course our > bodies try to keep homeostasis and the bodies of many people succeed > reasonably, but not everybody (e.g. children are in danger, see the > news today, Sir again, but other groups with some > defects or weakness are in danger also, like us). This is my idea so > far, wish it is more or less helpful. Frans. > > > > > > > To those who have used the Springlife Polarizer, a question: Did > you > > experience an increase or return of your ES symptoms when you first > > started using your Polarizer? > > > > My husband started wearing his Polarizer last night. What he > noticed > > immediately was a sensation of " heat " and " pressure " from the > device, > > which he wore close to his neck. No immediate noticeable effect on > > his ES symptoms, positive or negative. For the heck of it, I asked > > him whether he felt intuitively that the Polarizer was a " good " > thing > > for him, and he said yes. > > > > Very early this morning he was awakened by extreme pain of the kind > > we associate with ES. FYI, he has not had pain at this high level > > since we first started our shielding/grounding efforts. We are > > wondering: > > > > 1. Is the pain resurgence related to the Polarizer? > > 2. Is the pain a " detox " reaction? If it is, should be attempt to > > moderate this effect, maybe by keeping the device further away from > > him until he builds a tolerance to it? > > 3. Is the pain an indication that the Polarizer is not helping > > relieve ES symptoms in our case? > > > > I should add that we have had stormy weather here recently and we > are > > also considering the possibility that our " grounded " sleeping area > > has been compromised by altered/increased electrical charge in the > > earth where we live. This speculation is supported somewhat by the > > fact that my husband experienced some relief when he disconnected > his > > grounded wrist strap and left the grounded mattress to go lie on > the > > couch instead. But, again, when this much pain is involved we don't > > always trust subjective experience/perception. > > > > Your thoughts/feedback would be appreciated. Thanks. > > > > Cara > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Hi , I assume you mean canopies that do not make a complete enclosure? If there are significant sources of electric field in the immediate environment, then grounding can actually increase body voltage. Remember that for most common circumstances, electric field can be thought of as volts above ground divided by distance to ground. If you shorten the distance to ground, you increase this ratio. If instead, you make a complete enclosure of conductive material (with no source of electric field inside the enclosure), the potential (voltage) at all points on the enclosure is the same (because it is conductive). The field inside is therefore zero at all points. The Faraday Canopy at http://www.lessemf.com/personal.html#200 is designed to make such a complete enclosure. Emil At 10:18 PM 1/11/2005, you wrote: >Hello, > >I also consider sleeping on a grounded matress not a good idea. > >It raises the body tension, because the potential diffenerence is not in >order. > >The same idea goes for canopies. >They also raise the body tension. > >Greetings, > Claessens >member Verband Baubiologie >www.milieuziektes.nl >www.hetbitje.nl >checked by Norton Antivirus > > > Re: Springlife Polarizer > > > > > > > > As far as I have information, grounded matress to sleep on is not a > > good idea at all. To ground youurself, maybe, I used it when I had > > vibrations (movements) in my body, they disappeared, but one time the > > current was strong and I got a scar from the heat (it is one of the > > few objective things related to e.m.-fields and the current they > > induce). If you lie down on a grounded matress you will attract extra > > low frequency V/m. I myself consider it to be an extra antenna in > > which currents are induced (don't know if this is true. Somehow it > > seems everything is loaded by radiofrequent radiation). Nevertheless, > > tell me, did it help you to sleep on a grounded matress? I don't > > believe much in the theories of detoxing, chelation, diets etcetera, > > maybe there is something in parameters of the radiation that > > scientists are not aware of yet (maybe a longitudinal movement, maybe > > quantum physics, I don't know). I think so because generally there is > > a correlation between unwellness and level of radiofrequency > > radiation, but it is not absolute, there must be more parameters of > > body and environment. Normally, a body is able to keep homeostasis > > (balance) by removing or making harmless overdoses of all kinds of > > stuff. I think the real problem is the currents inducted (distorting > > your nerve systems and distorting cell functions), the double DNA > > breaks and possibly more, also not yet understood interferences. > > Remember, the present radiofrequent radiation is far, far more than > > the natural background and much of the radiation is of pulsed and > > modulated types that does not even exist in nature. Of course our > > bodies try to keep homeostasis and the bodies of many people succeed > > reasonably, but not everybody (e.g. children are in danger, see the > > news today, Sir again, but other groups with some > > defects or weakness are in danger also, like us). This is my idea so > > far, wish it is more or less helpful. Frans. > > > > > > > > > > > > To those who have used the Springlife Polarizer, a question: Did > > you > > > experience an increase or return of your ES symptoms when you first > > > started using your Polarizer? > > > > > > My husband started wearing his Polarizer last night. What he > > noticed > > > immediately was a sensation of " heat " and " pressure " from the > > device, > > > which he wore close to his neck. No immediate noticeable effect on > > > his ES symptoms, positive or negative. For the heck of it, I asked > > > him whether he felt intuitively that the Polarizer was a " good " > > thing > > > for him, and he said yes. > > > > > > Very early this morning he was awakened by extreme pain of the kind > > > we associate with ES. FYI, he has not had pain at this high level > > > since we first started our shielding/grounding efforts. We are > > > wondering: > > > > > > 1. Is the pain resurgence related to the Polarizer? > > > 2. Is the pain a " detox " reaction? If it is, should be attempt to > > > moderate this effect, maybe by keeping the device further away from > > > him until he builds a tolerance to it? > > > 3. Is the pain an indication that the Polarizer is not helping > > > relieve ES symptoms in our case? > > > > > > I should add that we have had stormy weather here recently and we > > are > > > also considering the possibility that our " grounded " sleeping area > > > has been compromised by altered/increased electrical charge in the > > > earth where we live. This speculation is supported somewhat by the > > > fact that my husband experienced some relief when he disconnected > > his > > > grounded wrist strap and left the grounded mattress to go lie on > > the > > > couch instead. But, again, when this much pain is involved we don't > > > always trust subjective experience/perception. > > > > > > Your thoughts/feedback would be appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 > The polarizer does make me feel a little spaced out so I am wearing it > for short times. Yes, although I use a polarizer for many hours a day, I initially had to limit my exposure and gradually ramp up my usage over a period of several weeks. On the first day of trying an Springlife OM pendant, I felt that I had overdone it within 20 minutes! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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