Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 I am not the person that originally talked about the inflammation but I bought one and have been sleeping for a week on the barefoot pad. http://www.sleepingearthed.com/ I am having some chest discomfort and I can't tell if it is from the barefoot pad yet. I have it plugged into the wall ground with their outlet connector. I am going to try to use their outside ground stake too and see if I can actually get a low reading on the body voltage. I was unable to get a low reading when I made my own copper grounding rod. I too think that there is so much man made shit running through the earth that how can we filter out the bad stuff and still get the so-called grounding and free electron benefits? I am still exploring and don't have a definitive answer yet on the barefoot pad. I will say that when I was sleeping on the velostat and silver mesh material clipped to a grounding wire in my wall socket, that really gave me chest pain in the morning. I don't recommend that! (additional variables are that my bedroom walls are painted with copper paint and grounded to the outlets. I wonder if the shit flying through the air is traveling from the walls through the ground in the wall sockets and ultimately through me. I wonder if there is a way to filter that out. Anybody have an idea how to do that? On Jan 27, 2007, at 7:51 PM, quaixemen wrote: > Well this weekend I drove an 8 foot grounding rod into the ground and > ran a wire to the bed where I safety pinned some conductive cloth that > I > got from Walmart onto the sheets. I think I may try to sleep on it > tonight. I first dug a hole into the ground and pounded the rod down > into the hole. I put some material over the rod that blocks microwaves > and then filled the hole with rocks. I still don't see how the wire > (mine has some shielding) will not pick up currents in the atmosphere > and cause them to also make it to the conductive cloth that I sleep on. > I layed down on it for a little while. I became very very relaxed. > When I came in here to my computer and sat down on a metal chair I > touched the chair and got a shock. I would like to hear from the > person > who posted about the 339 dollar product that removes inflamation. How > did sleeping on this make you feel? Is there any shielding they were > using to keep the wire from picking up frequencies in the atmosphere? > Any other suggestions or input here? Thanks. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 > I am having some chest discomfort I too get chest discomfort when near EMF, especially power lines. The cause may be acid reflux/heartburn. Something is messed up with the autonomic nervous system reacting to the EMF. Been taking Prilosec for several months and now the pains are not so acute anymore. Months ago, just about anything caused clnching chest pains. Eli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 --- Hi, and Quaixemen, I will do my best to answer your questions. I am not the one who first posted the information about sleeping earthed. I don't know who posted it...all I remember seeing was an address for a website, which I responded to. I bought the expensive mattress pad, grounding wire and grounding device to plug into the wall socket. I wrote about the amazing experience of placing my feet on the pad and having my right hip bone move into place. It has stayed in place, and I believe that most of the inflammation is gone from my hip that formed from being out of place for so long...maybe years. The next thing that I noticed was that the edema that I had been troubled with for many, many years was completely gone in less than a week of sleeping earthed, and still is. Since I am an extremely sensitive person I noticed a lot of tingling in my feet and legs initially. I believe that I was actually feeling the free electrons moving into my body,looking for free radical molecules to attach to. Free radicals are caused from molecules losing an electron from oxygen or toxins or whatever. Sometimes this tingling, almost pins and needles feeling,got quite uncomfortable for me, but my husband didn't experience this. After awhile the tingling would be reduced and I would feel toasty warm. Both my husband and I noticed that our feet would get warm quite quickly and stayed warm all night, but not uncomfortably so. I have never had any problem going to sleep quickly, and have been able to sleep any time, anywhere. My husband, on the other hand has always had a more difficult time getting to sleep. One of the things mentioned on the www.sleepingearthed.com site is that people,when sleeping grounded, usually get to sleep much faster and sleep through the night. Getting to sleep quickly happened for my husband, but the opposite thing happened for me. Because of the tingling in my legs and feet it was much harder for me to get to sleep. Also, whereas I used to need 9 hours of sleep a night and often took an afternoon nap, as well, now I was waking totally refreshed after only 6 hours of sleep and no longer napping in the afternoon. I other words, my energy has soared. After three weeks, we lent our carbon mattress pad and the wall grounding plug to some relatives who were interested in buying one for themselves. So, I got the bright idea to use the grounding wire and grounding stake, that also came with the mattress pad,and attach it to our regular mattress pad and sheet and put the stake into the ground outside. We bought some connectors and alligator clips for this purpose, and I think it works even better than the original expensive mattress pad. Now, our whole bed is grounded. At first I had even more trouble getting to sleep because I was absorbing the free electrons through my whole body, not just my lower legs and feet. You can read my earlier post about how we attached the grounding wire to the bed and to the ground. If anyone is interested I can give the exact parts that we bought at Radio Shack. We spent about $12. After we did this successfully, I heard from someone else that bought the following grounding products from another site, and has had good results. I will post the information without disclosing his name because I don't have permission to disclose it, not that he would object, I just haven't asked him. Less EMF <lessemf@...> wrote: From: " Less EMF " <lessemf@...> Subject: Re: lessemf.com online order Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:26:11 -0500 > Date : 12 Jan 2007 - 11:15 > Product : Quantity : Price > a224 Deep Sleep Sheet Full : 1 : 79.95 > a295-3 Ground Cable, plug-gator : 1 : 6.00 > a291-50 Ground Stake Kit 50 ft : 1 : 29.95 > a295-gc Ground Cable, gator-clamp : 1 : 6.00 > Subtotal : 121.90 > Shipping : 11.90 > TOTAL : 133.80 As I said before, I think that the grounding sheet is entirely unnecessary. This is the website that I bought the Ground Cable, gator-clamp from for $6.00 plus $2.00 shipping. It is a good price, but now that I know how it is made I think we can do it even cheaper. This is what we grounded our guest bed with. I think is works very well. I really suggest that you read all you can on the sleepingearthed site. There is a lot of good information there even if you don't want to buy their expensive products. One thing they say is that the free electrons are pretty much on the Earth's surface and just a short distance into the Earth, so it is entirely unnecessary to put an 8 ft. grounding stake attached to a grounding wire into the Earth. Also,it should just be touching the earth, not enclosed in rocks. The grounding stake cannot suck up free electrons from rocks, but from the Earth itself. Just make sure that your grounding stake is in a sunny location. They recommend a garden,flower or otherwise. We put ours into a patch of rich grass that gets sun for at least half the daylight hours. I have no answer for 's copper walls. I have no idea how that may or may not affect any of this. The information that I have read from the sleepingearthed site is that one should not double ground your mattress. In other words, do not use both the grounding stake outside and the grounding device in the wall socket on the same bed. You realize this is still a very new Science...about two years old. So, it is still pretty much experimental, experiential and subjective. A large number of doctors and Scientists in many different fields are now starting to believe that all of our dis-eases are caused from inflammation. The body uses inflammation to protect itself initially, but then the inflammation creates more problems for the body if it sticks around and doesn't clear up in a timely manner. One of the greatest benefits of sleeping earthed, or grounded, is that it can help the body rid itself of inflammation. I hopes this helps. Best Regards, Phyllicia In , McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote: > > I am not the person that originally talked about the inflammation but I > bought one and have been sleeping for a week on the barefoot pad. > http://www.sleepingearthed.com/ > I am having some chest discomfort and I can't tell if it is from the > barefoot pad yet. I have it plugged into the wall ground with their > outlet connector. I am going to try to use their outside ground stake > too and see if I can actually get a low reading on the body voltage. I > was unable to get a low reading when I made my own copper grounding > rod. > > I too think that there is so much man made shit running through the > earth that how can we filter out the bad stuff and still get the > so-called grounding and free electron benefits? > I am still exploring and don't have a definitive answer yet on the > barefoot pad. > > I will say that when I was sleeping on the velostat and silver mesh > material clipped to a grounding wire in my wall socket, that really > gave me chest pain in the morning. I don't recommend that! (additional > variables are that my bedroom walls are painted with copper paint and > grounded to the outlets. I wonder if the shit flying through the air is > traveling from the walls through the ground in the wall sockets and > ultimately through me. I wonder if there is a way to filter that out. > Anybody have an idea how to do that? > > > On Jan 27, 2007, at 7:51 PM, quaixemen wrote: > > > Well this weekend I drove an 8 foot grounding rod into the ground and > > ran a wire to the bed where I safety pinned some conductive cloth that > > I > > got from Walmart onto the sheets. I think I may try to sleep on it > > tonight. I first dug a hole into the ground and pounded the rod down > > into the hole. I put some material over the rod that blocks microwaves > > and then filled the hole with rocks. I still don't see how the wire > > (mine has some shielding) will not pick up currents in the atmosphere > > and cause them to also make it to the conductive cloth that I sleep on. > > I layed down on it for a little while. I became very very relaxed. > > When I came in here to my computer and sat down on a metal chair I > > touched the chair and got a shock. I would like to hear from the > > person > > who posted about the 339 dollar product that removes inflamation. How > > did sleeping on this make you feel? Is there any shielding they were > > using to keep the wire from picking up frequencies in the atmosphere? > > Any other suggestions or input here? Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Hi Again, One question that I failed to answer...Yes, the ground wires that I have used are definitely shielded. About your heart pain , I don't know if this is true for you or not, but I feel that sleeping earthed has helped my heart. I had suffered from two floppy valves as a result of taking Phen-fen for only a very short time. This was discovered by Echo gram. I have had this problem for several years. I took one round of a homeopathic remedy to remove the Phen-fen from my system. That made it a lot better, but I still had an audible click in my heart... not audible to anyone but me. Without any other treatment that is completely gone. I tell people that my heart runs like a Rolls Royce now, smooth and quiet. I don't know for sure that the grounding had anything to do with it, but I did have a bit of aching of the heart when I first started sleeping earthed. I don't have any anymore. But please don't take my word for it. It may or may not mean you are getting rid of inflammation in your heart and it is healing. Phyllicia McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote: I am not the person that originally talked about the inflammation but I bought one and have been sleeping for a week on the barefoot pad. http://www.sleepingearthed.com/ I am having some chest discomfort and I can't tell if it is from the barefoot pad yet. I have it plugged into the wall ground with their outlet connector. I am going to try to use their outside ground stake too and see if I can actually get a low reading on the body voltage. I was unable to get a low reading when I made my own copper grounding rod. I too think that there is so much man made shit running through the earth that how can we filter out the bad stuff and still get the so-called grounding and free electron benefits? I am still exploring and don't have a definitive answer yet on the barefoot pad. I will say that when I was sleeping on the velostat and silver mesh material clipped to a grounding wire in my wall socket, that really gave me chest pain in the morning. I don't recommend that! (additional variables are that my bedroom walls are painted with copper paint and grounded to the outlets. I wonder if the shit flying through the air is traveling from the walls through the ground in the wall sockets and ultimately through me. I wonder if there is a way to filter that out. Anybody have an idea how to do that? On Jan 27, 2007, at 7:51 PM, quaixemen wrote: > Well this weekend I drove an 8 foot grounding rod into the ground and > ran a wire to the bed where I safety pinned some conductive cloth that > I > got from Walmart onto the sheets. I think I may try to sleep on it > tonight. I first dug a hole into the ground and pounded the rod down > into the hole. I put some material over the rod that blocks microwaves > and then filled the hole with rocks. I still don't see how the wire > (mine has some shielding) will not pick up currents in the atmosphere > and cause them to also make it to the conductive cloth that I sleep on. > I layed down on it for a little while. I became very very relaxed. > When I came in here to my computer and sat down on a metal chair I > touched the chair and got a shock. I would like to hear from the > person > who posted about the 339 dollar product that removes inflamation. How > did sleeping on this make you feel? Is there any shielding they were > using to keep the wire from picking up frequencies in the atmosphere? > Any other suggestions or input here? Thanks. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 According to Jeanne Gallick, the creator of the EarthCalm products, you don't need to put a grounding rod deep into the ground; all you need is a wire connected to a living plant in a ceramic pot on a wooden table. See the EarthCalm Innovations section half way down the page http://www.earthcalm.com/basics.htm I haven't tried this because I don't need to, but it could work. If you live in an apartment, this may be your only option if you want to ground your bed. The EarthCalm wrap also looks interesting. Doesn't cost much, either, so it may be worth trying. Gilligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 > While this technique may have some type of non-scientific effect, it does not constitute electrical grounding. > > Emil Yes, it is not solid grounding into the earth, but if it works it works. Science is ignorant of how a lot of things work. The only " proof " of truth or hoax in this case is by trying it. Gilligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 > One clarification is needed on the " Earthcalm Wrap " (described at > http://www.earthcalm.com/basics.htm) -- does this require the > user to have an Earthcalm plug-in unit in addition to the > extention cords? If so, then it is not so inexpensive. > > Marc > Here is your clarification: I sent EarthCalm the following question: " Does the EarthCalm Wrap technique require the use of an EarthCalm Home Protector or other device in order to be effective? " This is EarthCalm's answer: " The wrap technique will use the ability of AC current to block out any DC type voltage. It is independent of our products. " " Note that AC current blocks out DC type voltages therefore this is the reason we do not ground to the earth's magnetic field naturally while in our homes, as the magnetic field is similar to DC voltage. If you are highly affected by hi tension wires or cell phone towers/microwaves then the wrap will be effective for you. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 > Hi everyone, The whole concept which Earthcalm uses seems totally backwards to me. They admit that humans function more closely to the magnetic energy of the Earth, so why in the world would one function better being exposed to Alternating current instead of direct current? The reason that so many of our household appliances cause us problems is because the alternating current disrupts the natural, direct and steady current that our bodies produce. I can't prove it, but I am convinced that the reason that the batteries and magnets that I use on appliances, phones, etc. no longer switch me off or cause me problems is because they change the output of the appliances, phones, etc. from AC to DC. They have to be placed properly for them to work. Some people have put batteries in front of or next to an appliance and expected them to work...that does not work, and I never said that it did. I am always very careful how I place the magnets and batteries and what I place them on. For example, one should never put a magnet on the TV or computer...batteries only. I use magnets, usually South side touching on simple cell phones, and things like electric pencil sharpeners. I would not use one on a cell phone that had all the bells and whistles, camera, etc. I would think that it could possibly damage that type of cell phone. This is my two cents on this issue for whatever it is worth. To me the information and effect for me has been priceless, but others seem to think that it is worth no more than it costs which isn't much. > >Best Regards, Phyllicia One clarification is needed on the " Earthcalm Wrap " (described at > > http://www.earthcalm.com/basics.htm) -- does this require the > > user to have an Earthcalm plug-in unit in addition to the > > extention cords? If so, then it is not so inexpensive. > > > > Marc > > > Here is your clarification: > > I sent EarthCalm the following question: > > " Does the EarthCalm Wrap technique require the use of an EarthCalm > Home Protector or other device in order to be effective? " > > This is EarthCalm's answer: > > " The wrap technique will use the ability of AC current to block out > any DC type voltage. It is independent of our products. " > > " Note that AC current blocks out DC type voltages therefore this is > the reason we do not ground to the earth's magnetic field naturally > while in our homes, as the magnetic field is similar to DC voltage. If > you are highly affected by hi tension wires or cell phone > towers/microwaves then the wrap will be effective for you. " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 > Hi everyone, > > The whole concept which Earthcalm uses seems totally backwards to > me. They admit that humans function more closely to the magnetic > energy of the Earth, so why in the world would one function better > being exposed to Alternating current instead of direct current? Hi Phyllicia, Yes, I found the statement from EarthCalm a bit confusing. I sent them another email with the following question: " I'm a little confused. The first para says that the wrap technique uses AC current to block out DC voltage, but the second para says that the earth's magnetic field is similar to DC voltage (which we don't want blocked-out). It just seems like you made two contradictory statements. I think I know what you mean, but could you possibly state it more clearly? " My guess is that the technique of wrapping the bed with a plugged-in extension cord may somehow neutralize the effects of the ambient AC in the room, thus allowing a better connection to the earth's magnetic field. I really don't understand how that could work; it's not intuitive. But for the price of a long extension cord it may be worth trying. Gilligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Here is a clearer answer from EarthCalm: " Yes, it is confusing and I am sorry I was not clear. you are already surrounded by AC current in the house. therefore the detrimental aspect of electricity has already been introduced. By using the wrap you are not increasing the detrimental aspect which is blocking out the grounding to the earth's magnetic field as that has already been done, however you are increasing the positive aspect which is to block out MANMADE DC voltage. so there is an extra enhancement to block out more manmade DC voltages. " Still kind of unclear, I think, but better. Gilligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 > Hi again, MAN MADE DC would include batteries, which I find to be helpful to block out the AC voltage coming into the room. So I still think that what they say is confusing. A grounding cloth could be helpful if it somehow ground one to the Earth, but may not do what they think it does concerning AC-DC. Perhaps the Earth wrap fabric serves as some kind of cover, which protects from AC voltage touching a person. This, I suppose could be helpful if one was covered by it or wrapped in it while sleeping. Phyllicia > Here is a clearer answer from EarthCalm: > > " Yes, it is confusing and I am sorry I was not clear. you are already > surrounded by AC current in the house. therefore the detrimental > aspect of electricity has already been introduced. By using the wrap > you are not increasing the detrimental aspect which is blocking out > the grounding to the earth's magnetic field as that has already been > done, however you are increasing the positive aspect which is to block > out MANMADE DC voltage. so there is an extra enhancement to block out > more manmade DC voltages. " > > Still kind of unclear, I think, but better. > > Gilligan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 > *positive aspect which is to block out MANMADE DC voltage.* > > What is that: MANMADE DC voltage? Yes, I totally agree. The second reply from EarthCalm is clearer than the first, but I don't understand the reasoning. I don't know what is wrong with manmade DC voltage. Gilligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 There is nothing wrong with DC voltage IF it is really pure DC, such a batteries put out. However, all AC/DC transformers in the gadgets we plug in the wall socket put out some AC ripple which is then filtered to get very close to pure DC. Sometimes the filter might be defective, then there is AC hum which is probably not harmful. Maybe EarthCalm means that any conductor, whether or not it is carrrying voltage, can re- radiate an induced frequency to which some are sensitive. > > > *positive aspect which is to block out MANMADE DC voltage.* > > > > What is that: MANMADE DC voltage? > > Yes, I totally agree. The second reply from EarthCalm is clearer than > the first, but I don't understand the reasoning. I don't know what is > wrong with manmade DC voltage. > > Gilligan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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