YShild Carbon/Graphite Paint

[Guest guest]

If anyone has used this paint can they give feedback on its

effectiveness? I'm hearing good sounds about it, but need to know just

HOW good!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/5/2007 12:44:23 AM GMT Daylight Time,

asurisuk@... writes:

If anyone has used this paint can they give feedback on its

effectiveness? I'm hearing good sounds about it, but need to know just

HOW good!

I will see if I can get you details of lady that appeared in national papers

some time ago in UK, on this occassion it was not Dacre.

UK

[Guest guest]

It is about the same as the paint from Biologa.

But do not fotget, that this paint is electrical conductive.

Therefore it needs to be grounded.

There is a special grounding tape and a grounding platen, on which the

grounding cable can be attached.

Aside the fact, that this paint must be grounded for safety reasons (if you

accidenatlly hit a nail in the wall and touch a live mains, the whole wall

is electrified), it is also found, that the shiedling is less without proper

grounding.

On the other hand, the paint works very well and gives a shieling of ca 40

dB, which is quite good.

The effect/price ratio is good.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

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YShild Carbon/Graphite Paint

> If anyone has used this paint can they give feedback on its

> effectiveness? I'm hearing good sounds about it, but need to know just

> HOW good!

>

[Guest guest]

i'd be really grateful for that paul, cheers.

Oh and I meant YSHIELD. (i missed out the 'e')

I heard about those DECT phones on this forum, was it ?, over

a year ago, i'm sure they're called eco dects or something like

that. Sorry, still not much use!

j

>

>

> In a message dated 6/5/2007 12:44:23 AM GMT Daylight Time,

> asurisuk@... writes:

>

>

> If anyone has used this paint can they give feedback on its

> effectiveness? I'm hearing good sounds about it, but need to know

just

> HOW good!

>

>

>

>

>

> I will see if I can get you details of lady that appeared in

national papers

> some time ago in UK, on this occassion it was not Dacre.

>

> UK

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi charles,

i don't understand the measurements they use and what they mean in

real terms! If it screens 40 dB does that mean that it will stop the

radiation from a DECT phone from a neighbouring flat with flimsy

walls, say at very close range 0.25 metres?!

jane

>

> It is about the same as the paint from Biologa.

>

> But do not fotget, that this paint is electrical conductive.

> Therefore it needs to be grounded.

> There is a special grounding tape and a grounding platen, on which

the

> grounding cable can be attached.

>

> Aside the fact, that this paint must be grounded for safety reasons

(if you

> accidenatlly hit a nail in the wall and touch a live mains, the

whole wall

> is electrified), it is also found, that the shiedling is less

without proper

> grounding.

> On the other hand, the paint works very well and gives a shieling

of ca 40

> dB, which is quite good.

> The effect/price ratio is good.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton Antivirus

>

>

>

> YShild Carbon/Graphite Paint

>

>

> > If anyone has used this paint can they give feedback on its

> > effectiveness? I'm hearing good sounds about it, but need to

know just

> > HOW good!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

last msg of the night, promise!

I meant to say, i get your point about the whole conductive thing. I

was disappointed when i read that this paint is another one that

needs to be grounded. (i had thought it was carbon only). I really

dont like being surrounded by metal as i'm never convinced that i've

earthed it properly, and i worry about meeting an ironic end where

the very thing i've tried to protect myself from ends up killing me

when my protective box turns into an electrified death chamber.

don't have nightmares!

j

> >

> > It is about the same as the paint from Biologa.

> >

> > But do not fotget, that this paint is electrical conductive.

> > Therefore it needs to be grounded.

> > There is a special grounding tape and a grounding platen, on

which

> the

> > grounding cable can be attached.

> >

> > Aside the fact, that this paint must be grounded for safety

reasons

> (if you

> > accidenatlly hit a nail in the wall and touch a live mains, the

> whole wall

> > is electrified), it is also found, that the shiedling is less

> without proper

> > grounding.

> > On the other hand, the paint works very well and gives a shieling

> of ca 40

> > dB, which is quite good.

> > The effect/price ratio is good.

> >

> > Greetings,

> > Claessens

> > member Verband Baubiologie

> > www.milieuziektes.nl

> > www.milieuziektes.be

> > www.hetbitje.nl

> > checked by Norton Antivirus

> >

> >

> >

> > YShild Carbon/Graphite Paint

> >

> >

> > > If anyone has used this paint can they give feedback on its

> > > effectiveness? I'm hearing good sounds about it, but need to

> know just

> > > HOW good!

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/6/2007 8:29:35 AM GMT Daylight Time,

charles@... writes:

Normally, I measure ca. 200 uW/m2 from a DECT phone through a stone wall.

Don't get fooled by thinking that the distance is important.

A safe distance is 300 metres away!

So, 0.25 metres, or 1 metre, or 5 metres, is still a dangerous distance.

I measure DECT signals 3 houses away.

Like those wireless internet modems/routers.

right now I could cry - I know when I am getting very bad with ES

when my glands under my arms start to throb, my tinitus goes of the scale and my

head and ears sting all over and I could quite easily forget my name ! My

neighbouir has since seeing the Panorama programme taken his twin ariel router

from upstairs and placed it downstairs next to his dect phone in a single

glass sunlounge which is no more than 7 mtrs from where I sit at my laptop. He

cant be all bad as he has accepted that I buy him an analougue cordless phone

which I now await. As for the Wifi router there seems no viable change for

this. How much can you influence someone before they Say this is my house I

can do what I like ! He may be scared of legal action from me (evan though

that is remote) due to personal injury as I told him a fib on this that it was

happening in the USA, THAT MIGHT BE MY ONLY HOPE !

aLSO I have been sitting at my laptop and now feeling very ill, I tested the

equipment with the Trifeild meter, the EMF was quite high, but the Efeild

was off the scale on everything I went near where I sit 100mg plus - I traced

this to a 3 plug adaptor which takes my printer,laptop and another. When I

unplugged this, especially the printer the wall area table, mouse, laptop etc

all went back to normal average readings. I have obviously gone into the red

just lately becuse of the aformentioned anomolies.

Help does anyone have a cave I can go to for a week or so !

uk

[Guest guest]

Hello,

in stead of dB, very often a shielding factor in % percentage is given, but

that is very confusing.

99 %

99.9 %

99.999 %

etc.

Roughly, one may count:

-10 dB means, measuring value devided by 10

-15 dB means, measuring value devided by 30

-20 dB means, measuring value devided by 100

-25 dB means, measuring value devided by 300

-30 dB means, measuring value devided by 1000

40 dB stops a DECT signal from a neighbouring flat.

But it must be grounded.

Normally, I measure ca. 200 uW/m2 from a DECT phone through a stone wall.

Don't get fooled by thinking that the distance is important.

A safe distance is 300 metres away!

So, 0.25 metres, or 1 metre, or 5 metres, is still a dangerous distance.

I measure DECT signals 3 houses away.

Like those wireless internet modems/routers.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

checked by Norton Antivirus

YShild Carbon/Graphite Paint

>>

>>

>> > If anyone has used this paint can they give feedback on its

>> > effectiveness? I'm hearing good sounds about it, but need to

> know just

>> > HOW good!

>> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry about that , I know its not good.

Some suggestions.

Try paint.

Try coating wall with microwave absorber at WLAN frequency. It is

expensive and you may need several layers. If you place it in a

3 x 3 sq m patch of wall next to his equipment. I am interested if

others think this worthwhile.

Your computer and its 100 mg (I assume you mean milligauss magnetic).

This sounds suspicious and could be a problem. It needs to be determined,

is your computer a problem- take it and plug it into other power points

and see what mg reading you get-

or is your wiring a problem. I suggest try some GS filters, to help with

wiring. I know some people have some controversy with those, we should

discuss that subject at some stage.

Perhaps your mains wiring is illegally crossed to your telephone wiring,

creating an earth loop between your computer and modem. Somebody else

might suggest how to check that.

If the computer stays at 100 mg, throw it out or remote it. Buy

a new one cheap- it probably has an noisy power supply or monitor.

As I discussed

in msg #8593, you could use a fiber optic DVI monitor and extension

cables on keyboard mouse with many ferrites.

There are things we should try to do to these WLANs remotely but I can't

discuss them hear, you should use your imagination.

Those are short term things. I myself could not walk for a few weeks

last year, so that I had to stop using the computer. My computer is

a laptop that has less effect on me than 10 other computers.

Coincidentally on the exact day that that commenced, an immediate

neighbour had moved his large computer with CRT from his back

room right next to my wall. I had to get pretty

assertive with him for him to move it. If I ever get solid reason to

believe it was that machine there will be consequences. But there were

other stressors at the time.

This situation has become ridiculous. If the EMF/R from these devices

is causing direct health complaints in us, we need to prove it and do

something about it. It is ludicrous to suggest that you should have

to spend $1,000s on shielding because of that WLAN manufacturer.

If we can get hard core cases such as yourself and show that your

reaction is similar to that of other people to chemicals, then surely

we can change laws. Surely this constitutes trespass. Surely this is

a public nuisance. Surely this is assault. And yet when something

happens, and the telecommunications companies have spent $100 million

on disinformation, and the scientists whose help you need have been

put out of jobs, you and I have nowhere to turn.

As a longer term suggestion, I would like to draw your attention and

that of the group to my post #8593, where I have suggested a

multinational union to provide funding to people who really want to stop

this happening. They are out there. $2000 worth of microwave absorber

now and homelessness and unemployment later? Or money spent now, and

next year a study to wave in somebody's face that will remove any

pestilence from your life. As for the cost, if proof was uncovered,

there are ways of recouping that money at a later date. But cost is

the least of it.

Get your wiring and that computer checked (the electrician who will be

hard to find will have

to do everything as per Riley's book 'Tracing EMFs in building wiring

and grounding'), then if that doesn't work we'll try to think of

something else. Interested in others opinions on fixing it.

Hang in there for a while.

Rowan C

>

>

> In a message dated 6/6/2007 8:29:35 AM GMT Daylight Time,

> charles@... writes:

>

> Normally, I measure ca. 200 uW/m2 from a DECT phone through a stone

wall.

>

> Don't get fooled by thinking that the distance is important.

> A safe distance is 300 metres away!

>

> So, 0.25 metres, or 1 metre, or 5 metres, is still a dangerous

distance.

>

> I measure DECT signals 3 houses away.

> Like those wireless internet modems/routers.

>

>

>

> right now I could cry - I know when I am getting very bad with

ES

> when my glands under my arms start to throb, my tinitus goes of the

scale and my

> head and ears sting all over and I could quite easily forget my name !

My

> neighbouir has since seeing the Panorama programme taken his twin ariel

router

> from upstairs and placed it downstairs next to his dect phone in a

single

> glass sunlounge which is no more than 7 mtrs from where I sit at my

laptop. He

> cant be all bad as he has accepted that I buy him an analougue cordless

phone

> which I now await. As for the Wifi router there seems no viable change

for

> this. How much can you influence someone before they Say this is my

house I

> can do what I like ! He may be scared of legal action from me (evan

though

> that is remote) due to personal injury as I told him a fib on this that

it was

> happening in the USA, THAT MIGHT BE MY ONLY HOPE !

>

> aLSO I have been sitting at my laptop and now feeling very ill, I tested

the

> equipment with the Trifeild meter, the EMF was quite high, but the

Efeild

> was off the scale on everything I went near where I sit 100mg plus - I

traced

> this to a 3 plug adaptor which takes my printer,laptop and another.

When I

> unplugged this, especially the printer the wall area table, mouse,

laptop etc

> all went back to normal average readings. I have obviously gone into

the red

> just lately becuse of the aformentioned anomolies.

>

> Help does anyone have a cave I can go to for a week or so !

>

> uk

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know the feeling. Hang in there . My best suggestion is to spend

some more time with your neighbor and get to know his values and show

him that you care about him too. I think if he knows you care about

him, he will care more about you and be willing to do much more for

you.

Ultimately, you must move to take care of yourself if he won't budge.

Yes, you could file a lawsuit and threaten him. I think he will find

someway to get back at you and make life more miserable.

Call your local Legislator and complain to him. I am lobbying with the

Commerce committee. The telecommunications companies are trying to pass

a bill that would allow building of a tower on anything and anywhere at

anytime.

People need to know about you and what own condition is and that they

could feel this way too. We are not freaks.

Good luck to you.

Your success is my success.

On Jun 6, 2007, at 4:31 AM, paulpjc@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 6/6/2007 8:29:35 AM GMT Daylight Time,

> charles@... writes:

>

> Normally, I measure ca. 200 uW/m2 from a DECT phone through a stone

> wall.

>

> Don't get fooled by thinking that the distance is important.

> A safe distance is 300 metres away!

>

> So, 0.25 metres, or 1 metre, or 5 metres, is still a dangerous

> distance.

>

> I measure DECT signals 3 houses away.

> Like those wireless internet modems/routers.

>

>

>

> right now I could cry - I know when I am getting very bad with

> ES

> when my glands under my arms start to throb, my tinitus goes of the

> scale and my

> head and ears sting all over and I could quite easily forget my name

> ! My

> neighbouir has since seeing the Panorama programme taken his twin

> ariel router

> from upstairs and placed it downstairs next to his dect phone in a

> single

> glass sunlounge which is no more than 7 mtrs from where I sit at my

> laptop. He

> cant be all bad as he has accepted that I buy him an analougue

> cordless phone

> which I now await. As for the Wifi router there seems no viable

> change for

> this. How much can you influence someone before they Say this is my

> house I

> can do what I like ! He may be scared of legal action from me (evan

> though

> that is remote) due to personal injury as I told him a fib on this

> that it was

> happening in the USA, THAT MIGHT BE MY ONLY HOPE !

>

> aLSO I have been sitting at my laptop and now feeling very ill, I

> tested the

> equipment with the Trifeild meter, the EMF was quite high, but the

> Efeild

> was off the scale on everything I went near where I sit 100mg plus - I

> traced

> this to a 3 plug adaptor which takes my printer,laptop and another.

> When I

> unplugged this, especially the printer the wall area table, mouse,

> laptop etc

> all went back to normal average readings. I have obviously gone into

> the red

> just lately becuse of the aformentioned anomolies.

>

> Help does anyone have a cave I can go to for a week or so !

>

> uk

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is a microwave absobing sheet made from non-woven pure carbon fibers which

does not need to be grounded. See

http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html#259

It is low cost and suitable for hanging on a wall.

Emil

YShild Carbon/Graphite Paint

>> >

>> >

>> > > If anyone has used this paint can they give feedback on its

>> > > effectiveness? I'm hearing good sounds about it, but need to

>> know just

>> > > HOW good!

>> > >

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/7/2007 3:13:36 PM GMT Daylight Time,

amcafeerr@... writes:

pass

a bill that would allow building of a tower on anything and anywhere at

anytime.

People need to know about you and what own condition is and that they

could feel this way too. We are not freaks.

Good luck to you.

Your success is my success.

Many thanks for what I could call good Karma

Your success is my success and so to the populus at large.

Thanks

UK

[Guest guest]

Hate to say this, but one must be realistic. Chances of getting anything

from a lawsuit about an effect which is not officially recognised are

virtually nil, certainly in the UK. You certainly couldn't show that your

neighbour had been in any way negligent when all official advice up to now

has been that wifi does not cause adverse effects to people. There were a

couple who tried a lawsuit a couple of years back against a mast near their

home which was affecting them physically - they lost all their money on

legal fees and still got nowhere. (I think electrosensitivity.co.uk had

some details on this at one time).

A better use of the money might well be to take a week's holiday in a good

remote part of the country where you don't get mobile or wifi signals (Sue

gained hugely from some weeks we were able to spend in the Elan Valley in

Wales, but other deep valleys or quiet areas in woods/lake areas are good).

And leave your laptop behind.... Seriously, can that be helping you?

Often, severely ES people can't go anywhere near a working computer of any

sort - it's a big extra load. And because it's so close to you, it could be

having an even greater effect than your neighbour's wi-fi!

Good luck, Ian

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

McAfee

Sent: 06 June 2007 13:59

Subject: Re: Re: YShild Carbon/Graphite Paint

I know the feeling. Hang in there . My best suggestion is to spend

some more time with your neighbor and get to know his values and show

him that you care about him too. I think if he knows you care about

him, he will care more about you and be willing to do much more for

you.

Ultimately, you must move to take care of yourself if he won't budge.

Yes, you could file a lawsuit and threaten him. I think he will find

someway to get back at you and make life more miserable.

Call your local Legislator and complain to him. I am lobbying with the

Commerce committee. The telecommunications companies are trying to pass

a bill that would allow building of a tower on anything and anywhere at

anytime.

People need to know about you and what own condition is and that they

could feel this way too. We are not freaks.

Good luck to you.

Your success is my success.

On Jun 6, 2007, at 4:31 AM, paulpjcaol (DOT) <mailto:paulpjc%40aol.com> com

wrote:

>

> In a message dated 6/6/2007 8:29:35 AM GMT Daylight Time,

> charles@milieuziekt <mailto:charles%40milieuziektes.be> es.be writes:

>

> Normally, I measure ca. 200 uW/m2 from a DECT phone through a stone

> wall.

>

> Don't get fooled by thinking that the distance is important.

> A safe distance is 300 metres away!

>

> So, 0.25 metres, or 1 metre, or 5 metres, is still a dangerous

> distance.

>

> I measure DECT signals 3 houses away.

> Like those wireless internet modems/routers.

>

>

>

> right now I could cry - I know when I am getting very bad with

> ES

> when my glands under my arms start to throb, my tinitus goes of the

> scale and my

> head and ears sting all over and I could quite easily forget my name

> ! My

> neighbouir has since seeing the Panorama programme taken his twin

> ariel router

> from upstairs and placed it downstairs next to his dect phone in a

> single

> glass sunlounge which is no more than 7 mtrs from where I sit at my

> laptop. He

> cant be all bad as he has accepted that I buy him an analougue

> cordless phone

> which I now await. As for the Wifi router there seems no viable

> change for

> this. How much can you influence someone before they Say this is my

> house I

> can do what I like ! He may be scared of legal action from me (evan

> though

> that is remote) due to personal injury as I told him a fib on this

> that it was

> happening in the USA, THAT MIGHT BE MY ONLY HOPE !

>

> aLSO I have been sitting at my laptop and now feeling very ill, I

> tested the

> equipment with the Trifeild meter, the EMF was quite high, but the

> Efeild

> was off the scale on everything I went near where I sit 100mg plus - I

> traced

> this to a 3 plug adaptor which takes my printer,laptop and another.

> When I

> unplugged this, especially the printer the wall area table, mouse,

> laptop etc

> all went back to normal average readings. I have obviously gone into

> the red

> just lately becuse of the aformentioned anomolies.

>

> Help does anyone have a cave I can go to for a week or so !

>

> uk

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/8/2007 1:49:18 AM GMT Daylight Time,

ianandsue.kemp@... writes:

A better use of the money might well be to take a week's holiday in a good

remote part of the country where you don't get mobile or wifi signals (Sue

gained hugely from some weeks we were able to spend in the Elan Valley in

Wales, but other deep valleys or quiet areas in woods/lake areas are good).

And leave your laptop behind.... Seriously, can that be helping you?

Often, severely ES people can't go anywhere near a working computer of any

sort - it's a big extra load. And because it's so close to you, it could be

having an even greater effect than your neighbour's wi-fi!

Good luck, Ian

I aggree entirely, its not a good situation to be in, desparate situations

call for...etc. As far as the Laptop is concerned it facilitates my main

scource of income as a Building Surveyor and work from home, now that of course

has been scuppered by the localised wireless devices. I have reduced my hours

down to 15 per week and still this is a big challenge, more so lately as

something has changed in the EM evironment here. But it is the lesser of many

evils, for what I earn in 2 days I could graft at something less skilled and

potentially earn less and also still get zapped, that is the dillema. Although

that is becoming more of a paradoxically welcome situation.

As far as the em background here is concerned, my neighbours son is using

his PC in his bedroom revising for exams etc this connects to the wifi router

downstairs in the sunlounge (which can be used up to 2 am ! some nights) where

his father uses a laptop on wireless next to router and dect phone(dect as

of 1 hour ago now off as I bought him an analogue cordless - Horray) but on my

esmog detector I can now clearly here a faint growl probably his wifi and a

whine from the 3 G mast 800mtrs away(probably the point2point transmiter side

lobe which until now I thought only hit my bedroom window). When I awaken at

night I am left in a state of torment, for when you stand still or stay in

one postion such as lying in your bed in the em soup you can feel the

concentrated effects so much more than if you are moving around and able to

concentrate on other things. ES puts you in a box/cage that gets bigger and

smaller

depending on your exposure. So many things that the unafflicted take for

granted are more often than not falling just in and out of the box constantly,

for

me its office work, yes I can do it for a short while, that takes courage and

or stupidity as I am obviously injuring myself still further, but the

soloution I have found ie to work from home with all its problems allows me to

continue to support my family. Yes ultimately you are right I should get away,

but right now I cant afford it, I cant leave my wife and kids alone, not

forgetting they attend school, and as I work freelance (not really by choice) I

would not get paid while away further increasing other stresses, so its a

vicious circle allround.

I should be making myself ill at the moment doing a computer aided tech dwg

for my employer instead of writing this, so I guess I better get on.

FRY FOR NOW !

UK

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/8/2007 3:45:05 PM GMT Daylight Time, marc@...

writes:

And because it's so close to you, it could be

> having an even greater effect than your neighbour's wi-fi!

That was one of the things that amused me about that UK

documentary that was mentioned a few weeks back. Here

they are proclaiming how dangerous Wi-Fi is, while they

sit right in front of their laptop computer, completely

ignoring that it also emits a lot of radation... :-)

Yes but on its own it might not be enought to trigger ES, add in all the

other EMR in any one location and we have an ever increasing recipe for

disaster.

UK

[Guest guest]

> And because it's so close to you, it could be

> having an even greater effect than your neighbour's wi-fi!

That was one of the things that amused me about that UK

documentary that was mentioned a few weeks back. Here

they are proclaiming how dangerous Wi-Fi is, while they

sit right in front of their laptop computer, completely

ignoring that it also emits a lot of radation... :-)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Well, that cuts both ways. If your laptop computer gives you 80% of your

received MW range radiation and your neighbour's WiFi contributes the other

20%, they might reasonably ask why you're still using your laptop if EMR is

a problem for you :-)

But for ES people who react so strongly to EMR that they can't use computers

etc at all, extra radiation from WiFi and masts is a major problem, because

it's not easily avoidable, and gives a big relative increase in their EMR

exposure. As always, the question is; will severely E-sensitive people

remain a small minority, or are they the tip of the iceberg and the

early-warning canaries?

Ian

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

paulpjc@...

Sent: 08 June 2007 15:57

Subject: Re: Re: YShild Carbon/Graphite Paint

In a message dated 6/8/2007 3:45:05 PM GMT Daylight Time, marcufoseries (DOT)

<mailto:marc%40ufoseries.com> com

writes:

And because it's so close to you, it could be

> having an even greater effect than your neighbour's wi-fi!

That was one of the things that amused me about that UK

documentary that was mentioned a few weeks back. Here

they are proclaiming how dangerous Wi-Fi is, while they

sit right in front of their laptop computer, completely

ignoring that it also emits a lot of radation... :-)

Yes but on its own it might not be enought to trigger ES, add in all the

other EMR in any one location and we have an ever increasing recipe for

disaster.

UK

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In a message dated 6/11/2007 12:37:50 AM GMT Daylight Time,

ianandsue.kemp@... writes:

Well, that cuts both ways. If your laptop computer gives you 80% of your

received MW range radiation and your neighbour's WiFi contributes the other

20%, they might reasonably ask why you're still using your laptop if EMR is

a problem for you :-)

But for ES people who react so strongly to EMR that they can't use computers

etc at all, extra radiation from WiFi and masts is a major problem, because

it's not easily avoidable, and gives a big relative increase in their EMR

exposure. As always, the question is; will severely E-sensitive people

remain a small minority, or are they the tip of the iceberg and the

early-warning canaries?

Ian

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As far as using the laptop is concerned at least my laptop does not

irradiate my neighbour. By removing this layer of irradiation I am wittling down

the

antagonists to my condition. I am painfully aware that using the PC is

further compounding my ES, which today has led to the loss of an ongoing

contract

becuase over the last number of months I have not been able to control my

exposure levels as well as I might and my performance has decreased.

Ironically

the man that has kept me afloat finacially for the last 8 months, has an

office some 5 x 5 m that has no less that 3 dect base stns amidst all the other

typical devices abound in offices ! I can stand no more than 10 mins there,

withoot hours of muzziness and agitation and general weakness. The alternative

is meet at another venue, but this is 350mtrs from 3 lampost masts, 600mtrs

from a large 25 m mast array and the quaint estate is awash with dect etc.

so time spent there leaveas me the same,if not worse and I am coming down from

this a little right now having left the place 3 hrs ago. Yes Ian, I should

turn my back on computer work lets face it you stick your face in an

electrical device when you do this. I am heading for disaster here, but I must

stay

positive and keep couragous, I want out from this, but maybe there is an

element of self harm here in as much as I f I keep doing this they will

eventually have to carry me away in a stretcher, perhaps then I might have an

element

of belief conveyed from those who are skeptical ! (my wife is a diamond

though) I am keeping up the good fight for now, and working my way through

possibilities and scenarios and I will find a way around this short of giving

up

work becuase that is no good for anyone especially when you have a family to

support.!!

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