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WHY DONT YOU STRAP IT TO YOUR ANKLE ? DONT FORGET THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL

HEALTH TRUST WEBSITE HAS PDFS OF BLACKBERRY HANDBOOK WHICH STATES THAT YOU

SHOULD NOT HOLD THE DEVICE WITH APPROX 25MM TO YOUR HEAD OR CARRY ABOUT YOUR

BODY UNLESS IN AN APPROVED HOLSTER. YOU COULD TRY A SHEILD ON THE BODY

SIDE OF THE PHONE MUST BE LOADS OF THESE ON THE MARKET

PUK

In a message dated 25/09/2011 22:33:00 GMT Daylight Time, audyl@...

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Hi All,

I have to carry a blackberry phone against my wishes, so can anyone tell

me what is the best type of protection to hold this thing in while it is

attached to my belt?

Thanks so much,

Audy

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Hi, Audy,

If I personally had to carry a Blackberry, I would check out lead lined pouches

(the kind made to carry film in).  And I would carry it in my purse (however, I

think you might be male, in which case, that might look very strange.  ;)  I

do not know a good place to carry one on your body.  Perhaps in the side pocket

of a pair of carpenter's pants???  (Near the knee.)

Diane

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From: audyl <audyl@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 5:31 PM

Subject: Re: EHS Info!

 

Hi All,

I have to carry a blackberry phone against my wishes, so can anyone tell me what

is the best type of protection to hold this thing in while it is attached to my

belt?

Thanks so much,

Audy

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Hi, ,

<Would the phone actually work in a lead pouch or would it be the same as

shutting it off?>

I am not sure that the phone would be completely dead in a lead pouch, but it is

probably

as dead as you are going to get it.  It is my understanding that nowGPS still

works on some

phones, even when they are turned completely off.

<p.s. my husband carries a purse!>

Norms are different depending on where you live.  In some countries, men can

wear skirts

and it is not thought of as abnormal.  I do know men wear purses in other

locales, but I don't

know how well that has been adopted in most of the US and Europe.  If a man were

to wear

one here where I live, he might get accosted on the street!  This is redneck

country.  But I'm

glad your husband can do it where you live.  It makes the cell phone carrying

situation much

easier.

Diane

 

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A lead pouch is meant to stop x-rays because they

interact with the nuclei. It might work on microwaves thanks

to the electrons but it's cheaper

to use something else. Wrapping in a couple big sheets

of aluminum foil might do it. You want a conducting pouch

with no leaky seams, or a metal canister with good contact all

around the edges.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Evie <evie15422@...> wrote:

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> Hi, ,

>

>

> <Would the phone actually work in a lead pouch or would it be the same as

> shutting it off?>

>

> I am not sure that the phone would be completely dead in a lead pouch, but

> it is probably

> as dead as you are going to get it. It is my understanding that nowGPS

> still works on some

>

> phones, even when they are turned completely off.

>

> <p.s. my husband carries a purse!>

>

> Norms are different depending on where you live. In some countries, men

> can wear skirts

> and it is not thought of as abnormal. I do know men wear purses in other

> locales, but I don't

>

> know how well that has been adopted in most of the US and Europe. If a man

> were to wear

>

> one here where I live, he might get accosted on the street! This is

> redneck country. But I'm

> glad your husband can do it where you live. It makes the cell phone

> carrying situation much

>

> easier.

>

> Diane

>

>

>

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>

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Hi again, ,

I realized after the fact that you were probably asking if the cell phone could

be left on, in

order to hear the ring, in a lead pouch.  It might, I wouldn't know.

Diane

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From: Evie <evie15422@...>

" " < >

Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 4:50 PM

Subject: Re: Re: EHS Info!

 

Hi, ,

<Would the phone actually work in a lead pouch or would it be the same as

shutting it off?>

I am not sure that the phone would be completely dead in a lead pouch, but it is

probably

as dead as you are going to get it.  It is my understanding that nowGPS still

works on some

phones, even when they are turned completely off.

<p.s. my husband carries a purse!>

Norms are different depending on where you live.  In some countries, men can

wear skirts

and it is not thought of as abnormal.  I do know men wear purses in other

locales, but I don't

know how well that has been adopted in most of the US and Europe.  If a man

were to wear

one here where I live, he might get accosted on the street!  This is redneck

country.  But I'm

glad your husband can do it where you live.  It makes the cell phone carrying

situation much

easier.

Diane

 

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Evie wrote:

> I realized after the fact that you were probably asking if the cell phone

could be left on, in

> order to hear the ring, in a lead pouch. It might, I wouldn't know.

>

>

Signals travel both ways.

You can't allow signals to come in, (incoming call), and expect to block

signals from getting out (transmissions).

If you leave the phone on, it will occasionally transmit out, to ask the

tower if there are any messages, and to let the nearest tower know where

it is, so incoming calls can find it.

This is not consistent with a desire to shield the phone.

If you shield the phone, you can not expect incoming calls to work. It

would at best allow you to say you are carrying the phone according to

company policy, and yet keep it from working, (or affecting you.)

Best to turn the phone off, then it won't transmit or receive.

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Sadly no about leaving the cell phone off.  The battery is always on as a

tracking device.  That was one of my early lessons.  The more modern phones

have rather strong battery, also.

From: stowware <nancy@...>

Subject: Re: EHS Info!

Date: Sunday, October 2, 2011, 10:59 AM

 

Thanks Diane - That was my question. I assumed the originator of the question

needed to leave the phone on and that was the problem.

I have been assuming all along that if you leave your cell phone off it will not

cause you problems. Am I correct in that assumption?

Thanks,

>

> Hi again, ,

>

> I realized after the fact that you were probably asking if the cell phone

could be left on, in

> order to hear the ring, in a lead pouch.  It might, I wouldn't know.

>

> Diane

>

>

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Hi, ,

Sorry this has been so long in coming.  ;)

You ask:

<Thanks Diane - That was my question. I assumed the originator of the

question needed to leave the phone on and that was the problem.

I have been assuming all along that if you leave your cell phone off it

will not cause you problems. Am I correct in that assumption?>

My reply:

No.  My understanding is that, leaving your phone off does not necessarily mean

it is no longer sending signals.  Some phones apparently now have GPS locators

which are always operational. 

Diane

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From: stowware <nancy@...>

Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 10:59 AM

Subject: Re: EHS Info!

 

Thanks,

>

> Hi again, ,

>

> I realized after the fact that you were probably asking if the cell phone

could be left on, in

> order to hear the ring, in a lead pouch.  It might, I wouldn't know.

>

> Diane

>

>

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