Re: Re: DECT phones (was titled higher cancer rates...)

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Are dect phones ANY cordless phone they sell nowadays?

Amy

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough

to take everything you have.

Jefferson

In a message dated 9/4/2009 2:45:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

reader41@... writes:

Mercola wrote along the same lines as this only yesterday - he showed brain

scan imaging of what cell phone use does to the brain of a child under 10

years old - compared to the impact on an adult - the radiation penetrates

the brain of a child much deeper than that for an adult. If you saw those

images you would not let your child near a cell phone. But the more shocking

thing was [as we here already know] the greater damage is done by dect

phones. I didn't become ES until after I had installed a dect phone in my home

- within 4 months I was ES - I don't have it any more.

From: Donnie <_mickiemc@frontiernemicki_ (mailto:mickiemc@...) >

Subject: Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users

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Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 9:41 PM

Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users.

The cancer threat of cell phone use has been recognized by some scientists

and critics for decades, but has, essentially, been covered up by the cell

phone industry and by much of the mainstream media. Philadelphia Bulletin,

PA.

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As I have understood,

in Europe DECT phones work at 1880-1900 MHz.

In the USA DECT phones work in the 5.8 GHz band.

Greetings,

Claessens

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Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users

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>> Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 9:41 PM

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>> Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users.

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>> The cancer threat of cell phone use has been recognized by some

>> scientists

>> and critics for decades, but has, essentially, been covered up by the

>> cell

>> phone industry and by much of the mainstream media. Philadelphia

>> Bulletin,

>> PA.

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There is a lot of confusion but apparently US DECT phones are 1.92 GHz.

They may be labeled DECT 5.8 or DECT 6.0.

It is not true that all non-DECT transmit only when there is a call.

The Uniden ones I tested transmit only during a call, and many

Panasonics. For sure some Sony transmit all the time. Unfortunately

the only way to know is to test the phone, apparently. I think some Radio

Shack phones are identical to Uniden.

Bill

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:58 AM, <charles@...> wrote:

>

>

> As I have understood,

> in Europe DECT phones work at 1880-1900 MHz.

>

> In the USA DECT phones work in the 5.8 GHz band.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton

>

>

> Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users

> >> _@..._ (mailto: <%40>

> )

> >> Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 9:41 PM

> >>

> >> Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users.

> >>

> >> The cancer threat of cell phone use has been recognized by some

> >> scientists

> >> and critics for decades, but has, essentially, been covered up by the

> >> cell

> >> phone industry and by much of the mainstream media. Philadelphia

> >> Bulletin,

> >> PA.

> >>

> >> _

> http://thebulletin.http://thebuhttp://thebhttp://thebuhttp://thebullethttp:

> >> //thehtt_

> >> (

>

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> >> Donnie

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Thanks Rob, I just looked at my phone & it says Dect 6.0. I had no idea. so this

thing is broadcasting all the time I guess. What phone can someone recommend?

Loni

From: rob77max <rob77max@...>

Subject: Re: DECT phones (was titled higher cancer rates...)

Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:34 PM

 

DECT phones are usually clearly labeled DECT 6.0. Any phone labeled 5.8, 5.8

GHz, 2.4 GHz, or 900 MHz is not DECT. A DECT phone broadcasts its 1.9 GHz signal

24/7, whereas the other phones mentioned only broadcast when a call is in

progress. Hope this helps, java.

Rob

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> From: Donnie <_mickiemc@frontier nemicki_ (mailto:mickiemc@ ...) >

> Subject: Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users

> _@..._ (mailto:groups (DOT) com)

> Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 9:41 PM

>

> Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users.

>

> The cancer threat of cell phone use has been recognized by some scientists

> and critics for decades, but has, essentially, been covered up by the cell

> phone industry and by much of the mainstream media. Philadelphia Bulletin,

> PA.

>

> _http://thebulletin. http://thebuhttp ://thebhttp: //thebuhttp:

//thebullethttp:

> //thehtt_

> (http://thebulletin. us/articles/ 2009/08/31/ top_stories/ doc4a9aa14099aa7

897239842. txt)

>

> Or use this link, if the above url wraps.

>

> _http://tinyurl. http://tin_ (http://tinyurl. com/nxoo7d)

>

> Donnie

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> Thanks Rob, I just looked at my phone & it says Dect 6.0. I had no idea.

> so this thing is broadcasting all the time I guess. What phone can

> someone recommend? Loni

Ideally, you'd get a corded phone -- that's all we have in our

house. It sounds like you have the worst possible kind of phone

right now. If you or your family require a cordless phone,

then perhaps someone here can recommend one that's less damaging

than the one you've got.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Bill, You could tell me what Uniden or Panasonic phone one could look in to

purchasing that did not transmit 24/7? Loni

>

>

> As I have understood,

> in Europe DECT phones work at 1880-1900 MHz.

>

> In the USA DECT phones work in the 5.8 GHz band.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes. nl

> www.milieuziektes. be

> www.hetbitje. nl

> checked by Norton

>

>

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> >> Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 9:41 PM

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> >> Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users.

> >>

> >> The cancer threat of cell phone use has been recognized by some

> >> scientists

> >> and critics for decades, but has, essentially, been covered up by the

> >> cell

> >> phone industry and by much of the mainstream media. Philadelphia

> >> Bulletin,

> >> PA.

> >>

> >> _

> http://thebulletin. http://thebuhttp ://thebhttp: //thebuhttp:

//thebullethttp:

> >> //thehtt_

> >> (

> http://thebulletin. us/articles/ 2009/08/31/ top_stories/ doc4a9aa14099aa7

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In a message dated 05/09/2009 20:07:29 GMT Daylight Time,

charles@... writes:

Then we have DECT ECO MODE. They do have 80 % less radiation.

And finally we have DECT ECO MODE PLUS, which are shielded 100 %.

Those are the types we can use.

Of course, they do radiate when you use the phone, but not 24 hours a

UK replies

Hi can you give a list of suppliers of these phones ? - many

thanks.

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In a message dated 05/09/2009 20:07:29 GMT Daylight Time,

charles@... writes:

> Thanks Rob, I just looked at my phone & it says Dect 6.0. I had no idea.

> so this thing is broadcasting all the time I guess. What phone can

> someone recommend? Loni

paul uk = try tin foil around the base with the phone in the base and

experiment on your reception to the phone, you will need an electrosmog detector

or similar to show results..

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In a message dated 05/09/2009 19:59:00 GMT Daylight Time,

mickiemc@... writes:

I bought a Uniden analog cordless phone, and it gives off very little low

level EMFs from the phone and base when not in use. No high levels at all,

on the Tri-field meter. The low reading drops off when the meter is moved

several inches away.

I bought it from Amazon, and it was very inexpensive.

Donnie

TRY USING THE ELECTROSMOG DETECTOR NEAR YOUR PHONE THE TRIFEILD WILL NOT

GIVE YOU A GOOD ENOUGH READING.

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YES, I sure hope so Marc. I had no idea. I learn so much from this group. thanks

so much for putting it together! Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: DECT phones (was titled higher cancer rates...)

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 AM

 

> Thanks Rob, I just looked at my phone & it says Dect 6.0. I had no idea.

> so this thing is broadcasting all the time I guess. What phone can

> someone recommend? Loni

Ideally, you'd get a corded phone -- that's all we have in our

house. It sounds like you have the worst possible kind of phone

right now. If you or your family require a cordless phone,

then perhaps someone here can recommend one that's less damaging

than the one you've got.

Marc

[Guest guest]

This dect phone that I have; what raduis would it be harmful? I'm just wondering

where to put it until I can get a different phone. Is the whole house effected? 

Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: DECT phones (was titled higher cancer rates...)

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 AM

 

> Thanks Rob, I just looked at my phone & it says Dect 6.0. I had no idea.

> so this thing is broadcasting all the time I guess. What phone can

> someone recommend? Loni

Ideally, you'd get a corded phone -- that's all we have in our

house. It sounds like you have the worst possible kind of phone

right now. If you or your family require a cordless phone,

then perhaps someone here can recommend one that's less damaging

than the one you've got.

Marc

[Guest guest]

> This dect phone that I have; what raduis would it be harmful? I'm just

> wondering where to put it until I can get a different phone. Is the whole

> house effected?  Loni

I'm no expert on cordless phones (since I don't own one), but I assume that

you'd want to keep the phone base (transmitter) as far away from you as

possible. In theory, I suppose the signals could affect you anywhere that

the phone receiver works.

Marc

[Guest guest]

I bought a Uniden analog cordless phone, and it gives off very little low level

EMFs from the phone and base when not in use. No high levels at all, on the

Tri-field meter. The low reading drops off when the meter is moved several

inches away.

I bought it from Amazon, and it was very inexpensive.

Donnie

[Guest guest]

Normally DECT phones do have a range of 300 meters.

There are newer types that go as far as 1000 meters.

And it is not the phone itsself that poses the danger, but it is the base

station (where the phone in rests and will be charged) that emits its 100 Hz

allo the time, 24 hours a day, whether you phone or not.

There are now DECT phones which do not radiate all the time, like the types

of Orchid.

But, beware of the following:

There are Eco DECT. They use lesser electricity, so they are more economical

in current costs, but the radiation stays the same.

So they are bad.

Then we have DECT ECO MODE. They do have 80 % less radiation.

And finally we have DECT ECO MODE PLUS, which are shielded 100 %.

Those are the types we can use.

Of course, they do radiate when you use the phone, but not 24 hours a day.

There are also the wireless house phones, which are not DECT but analogue,

and do not radiate like the DECT phones, but in Europe they are no longer

available.

In Europe they work between 885 and 932 MHz.

Greetings,

Claessens

member Verband Baubiologie

www.milieuziektes.nl

www.milieuziektes.be

www.hetbitje.nl

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Re: Re: DECT phones (was titled higher cancer rates...)

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 AM

> Thanks Rob, I just looked at my phone & it says Dect 6.0. I had no idea.

> so this thing is broadcasting all the time I guess. What phone can

> someone recommend? Loni

Ideally, you'd get a corded phone -- that's all we have in our

house. It sounds like you have the worst possible kind of phone

right now. If you or your family require a cordless phone,

then perhaps someone here can recommend one that's less damaging

than the one you've got.

Marc

[Guest guest]

It would work throughout the whole house. I have it in a room I don't spend much

time in but maybe it doesn't matter. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: DECT phones (was titled higher cancer rates...)

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:14 AM

 

> This dect phone that I have; what raduis would it be harmful? I'm just

> wondering where to put it until I can get a different phone. Is the whole

> house effected?  Loni

I'm no expert on cordless phones (since I don't own one), but I assume that

you'd want to keep the phone base (transmitter) as far away from you as

possible. In theory, I suppose the signals could affect you anywhere that

the phone receiver works.

Marc

[Guest guest]

How long ago did you  buy it Donnie?  Loni

From: Donnie <mickiemc@...>

Subject: Re: Re: DECT phones (was titled higher cancer rates...)

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 11:58 AM

I bought a Uniden analog cordless phone, and it gives off very little low level

EMFs from the phone and base when not in use. No high levels at all, on the

Tri-field meter. The low reading drops off when the meter is moved several

inches away.

I bought it from Amazon, and it was very inexpensive.

Donnie

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>How long ago did you buy it Donnie? Loni

I think I bought the Uniden phone last fall. They may still be available, or

some other analog phones on the site.

Donnie

[Guest guest]

Loni

 

I have gone back to the corded analogue phone I used before - you don't have the

same convenience of being able to use it anywhere you want and I still get

problems ES wise which phone calls, but at least it is better than having a

constant signal in your home.

 

BW

 

Steph

From: rob77max <rob77max (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: DECT phones (was titled higher cancer rates...)

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:34 PM

 

DECT phones are usually clearly labeled DECT 6.0. Any phone labeled 5.8, 5.8

GHz, 2.4 GHz, or 900 MHz is not DECT. A DECT phone broadcasts its 1.9 GHz signal

24/7, whereas the other phones mentioned only broadcast when a call is in

progress. Hope this helps, java.

Rob

>

> From: Donnie <_mickiemc@frontier nemicki_ (mailto:mickiemc@ ...) >

> Subject: Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users

> _@..._ (mailto:)

> Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 9:41 PM

>

> Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users.

>

> The cancer threat of cell phone use has been recognized by some scientists

> and critics for decades, but has, essentially, been covered up by the cell

> phone industry and by much of the mainstream media. Philadelphia Bulletin,

> PA.

>

> _http://thebulletin. http://thebuhttp ://thebhttp: //thebuhttp:

//thebullethttp:

> //thehtt_

> (http://thebulletin. us/articles/ 2009/08/31/ top_stories/ doc4a9aa14099aa7

897239842. txt)

>

> Or use this link, if the above url wraps.

>

> _http://tinyurl. http://tin_ (http://tinyurl. com/nxoo7d)

>

> Donnie

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Ya I know corded would be better. I have one in the den. Unfortuneately my

husband & son won't do without a cordless in the house. Otherwise it would be

simple. Loni

From: rob77max <rob77max (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: DECT phones (was titled higher cancer rates...)

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 11:34 PM

 

DECT phones are usually clearly labeled DECT 6.0. Any phone labeled 5.8, 5.8

GHz, 2.4 GHz, or 900 MHz is not DECT. A DECT phone broadcasts its 1.9 GHz signal

24/7, whereas the other phones mentioned only broadcast when a call is in

progress. Hope this helps, java.

Rob

>

> From: Donnie <_mickiemc@frontier nemicki_ (mailto:mickiemc@ ...) >

> Subject: Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users

> _@..._ (mailto:)

> Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 9:41 PM

>

> Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users.

>

> The cancer threat of cell phone use has been recognized by some scientists

> and critics for decades, but has, essentially, been covered up by the cell

> phone industry and by much of the mainstream media. Philadelphia Bulletin,

> PA.

>

> _http://thebulletin. http://thebuhttp ://thebhttp: //thebuhttp:

//thebullethttp:

> //thehtt_

> (http://thebulletin. us/articles/ 2009/08/31/ top_stories/ doc4a9aa14099aa7

897239842. txt)

>

> Or use this link, if the above url wraps.

>

> _http://tinyurl. http://tin_ (http://tinyurl. com/nxoo7d)

>

> Donnie

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I have also seen DECT phones on different bands in Australia. DECT- stands

for digitally enhanced cordless telehone.

Cheers,

Helen

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:58 PM, <charles@...> wrote:

>

>

> As I have understood,

> in Europe DECT phones work at 1880-1900 MHz.

>

> In the USA DECT phones work in the 5.8 GHz band.

>

> Greetings,

> Claessens

> member Verband Baubiologie

> www.milieuziektes.nl

> www.milieuziektes.be

> www.hetbitje.nl

> checked by Norton

>

>

> Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users

> >> _@..._ (mailto: <%40>

> )

> >> Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 9:41 PM

> >>

> >> Higher cancer rates in under-18 cell phone users.

> >>

> >> The cancer threat of cell phone use has been recognized by some

> >> scientists

> >> and critics for decades, but has, essentially, been covered up by the

> >> cell

> >> phone industry and by much of the mainstream media. Philadelphia

> >> Bulletin,

> >> PA.

> >>

> >> _

>

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> >> Donnie

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