Re: Re: Blood Tests - amalgam removal

[Guest guest]

Alison, don't feel stupid about the mercury fillings removal. How on earth

were you, or anyone else, to know?

But I wonder what we should feel about the various mercury free dentistry

websites, not one of which I have ever seen warn about the possible severe

side effects of removal. There are a number which advocate doing it in

conjunction with detox, but I have not seen any which specifically warn " if

you do this without precautions it could severely harm you " . The more so as

the people who most need amalgam removal, because there are reasonable

grounds to suspect mercury may be giving them problems, are the ones most

likely to suffer side effects due to weakened immune system etc.

The dentist that took out Sue's teeth said there were lots of different

opinions in their association as to whether detox protocols were necessary

and which were best, and so he didn't use any in particular. In other

words, the mercury free dentists don't really seem to know. In my view they

get away with it because 90% of removals are for people who are not really

very ill or sensitive to mercury (or for cosmetic purposes), so their bodies

can cope. Of course this applies even more to conventional dentists

extracting mercury fillings because the official view is that this is safe

and no precautions are needed.

Ian

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

ajwelectro

Sent: 13 October 2007 09:45

Subject: Re: Blood Tests - need advice

Thanks for all the replies.

My fillings were just removed with no precautions taken, i think I had 4/5

done there and

then with no hint it could be potentially dangerous. I feel extremely stupid

about this and

have regretted this decision greatly since getting the ES.

As yet I do not know the Mercury readings but I take all your points on

board, these have

been posted to me so I will let you know when they arrive.

My next question is, how do I detox etc? I understand I need to detox and

take

antioxidants and apprecvate it will take time but I dont know where to

start? I am still only

eating organic fruit/veg mainly diet and drinking more water but I need to

know what to

buy or what I can do. I need to understand how to detox... any advice?

Also, I think my immune system is weak but are there any further tests to

find out? and

how can I strengthen this? I am doing my best with food and vitamins etc.

Again, any

thoughts greatfully received.

I understand you dont have all the answers on here but you have given the

best advice and

although I am still extremely bad, I am more hopeful, so thanks for this.

Alison

>

> Hi Alison,

>

> Mercury amalgam removal does seem to have been the cause of the onset of

ES

> for a number of people. It happened to my wife Sue (there are various

posts

> about this buried in the archives) and the Swedish (2001) questionnaire

> responses given on FEB's website state that amalgam removal is one of the

> most common trigger factors.

>

> The mercury vapour gets mobilised in large quantities when it is drilled

> out, and if it gets into the bloodstream appears to cause a range of

> problems. Marc's point about it depositing in tissues and then being

> undetectable by blood tests is a valid one. There has been a lot written

> about whether mercury can cross the " blood-brain barrier " .

>

> Some key questions which would make it more likely to be the cause of your

> ES;

> - did the dentist use a rubber dam and vacuum when removing your amalgams?

> - did he give you any detox protocol (e.g. vitamin C, chlorella, charcoal,

> etc etc) before and after the extraction?

> - did you have a lot of fillings removed in one go?

> - did you feel any unease or discomfort at the time? (e.g. rubber dam not

> feeling properly in place, burning sensation in throat - this was what

> happened to Sue)

> - was your immune system already weak or do you have any known problems

with

> liver detoxification, leaky gut etc?

>

> If answer to 1/2 is no or 3/4/5 is yes, I'd say the amalgam removal is a

> likely cause.

>

> Finding an answer is more tricky. Detox may help, with 2 provisos;

> - mercury may be buried deep in tissues so may be difficult and slow to

get

> out

> - if your immune system, gut or liver is weak and can't eliminate the

> mobilised mercury, it will just go back into other tissues, sometimes

making

> things worse.

>

> For Sue, her ES symptoms are definitely much worse when she is low in

> magnesium - I think this is a common experience.

>

> Ian

>

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Of

> ajwelectro

> Sent: 12 October 2007 17:56

> groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

> Subject: Blood Tests - need advice

>

>

>

> Hi everyone, Im back.

>

> I just got some results from my blood tests, magnesium, chromium and Iron

> were low so this

> can be resolved. One thing I dont understand, my electrosensitivity

started

> about the same

> time I had amalgam fillings removed (for vanity reasons). I have had a

> mercury test but this

> has come back normal. I know it sounds strange but I was pinning my hopes

on

> having

> mercury toxicity as at least there is a method to get rid of this over

time

> and potentially

> reduce the ES.

>

> Does anyone have any experienced advice on this? I find it so hard to

> believe that this is not

> linked to the mercury. My specilaist now suggests that I dont need to

detox,

> maybe take an

> antioxidant... should I still try and detox? Any advice greatfully

received,

> I am so confused

> with it all and feel I need to do something major or I will end up like

this

> forever, im just not

> convinced vitamins are going to make this all better although I do

> understand he is just

> trying to help me.

>

> Thanks,

> Alison

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

ajwelectro wrote:

> Do you think there is a chance you can take too many supplements?

You'll find a wide range of opinions on this question. I know

that I've been to one nutritionist who hates to have people

taking more than 5 different supplements at a time,

while I've been to another who will put you on 20 - 30 at

a time! Having tried both philosophies for extended periods

of time, I have found that if I want to actively be chelating

and yet still be able to work and not get colds and flus

all the time, then I need to take more than 5 - 10 supplements.

But maybe I haven't found that one perfect supplement that

will magically take care of all of my problems... :-) (also,

I'm sure that the foods you eat are also a factor here)

> Also, as time goes on does this constant numbness in my

> face disappear or am I stuck with this?

I would hope that it could go away if you find the right

supplement/therapy. But I can't offer any advice, as this

is not a symptom that I've ever had. I think I read that

there was someone with MS who had numbness in her hands/arms

that went away slowly while taking Natural Cellular Defense.

Marc

[Guest guest]

marc you mentioned in a previous post that you use the sony bravia for

a screen is there any reason for this

i currently use a led projector but still get burning...also i have

just been done the road to use the photocopier and

my eyes are killing me now

pete

On 16 Oct 2007, at 15:02, Marc wrote:

> ajwelectro wrote:

> > Do you think there is a chance you can take too many supplements?

>

> You'll find a wide range of opinions on this question. I know

> that I've been to one nutritionist who hates to have people

> taking more than 5 different supplements at a time,

> while I've been to another who will put you on 20 - 30 at

> a time! Having tried both philosophies for extended periods

> of time, I have found that if I want to actively be chelating

> and yet still be able to work and not get colds and flus

> all the time, then I need to take more than 5 - 10 supplements.

> But maybe I haven't found that one perfect supplement that

> will magically take care of all of my problems... :-) (also,

> I'm sure that the foods you eat are also a factor here)

>

> > Also, as time goes on does this constant numbness in my

> > face disappear or am I stuck with this?

>

> I would hope that it could go away if you find the right

> supplement/therapy. But I can't offer any advice, as this

> is not a symptom that I've ever had. I think I read that

> there was someone with MS who had numbness in her hands/arms

> that went away slowly while taking Natural Cellular Defense.

>

> Marc

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had numbness and it went away. (over arms, legs, and in face) I thought

especially that B12 helped. It also helped when I went glutenfree some, but I

had problems off and on for several years until I took B12..

Diane

Marc <marc@...> wrote:

ajwelectro wrote:

> Do you think there is a chance you can take too many supplements?

You'll find a wide range of opinions on this question. I know

that I've been to one nutritionist who hates to have people

taking more than 5 different supplements at a time,

while I've been to another who will put you on 20 - 30 at

a time! Having tried both philosophies for extended periods

of time, I have found that if I want to actively be chelating

and yet still be able to work and not get colds and flus

all the time, then I need to take more than 5 - 10 supplements.

But maybe I haven't found that one perfect supplement that

will magically take care of all of my problems... :-) (also,

I'm sure that the foods you eat are also a factor here)

> Also, as time goes on does this constant numbness in my

> face disappear or am I stuck with this?

I would hope that it could go away if you find the right

supplement/therapy. But I can't offer any advice, as this

is not a symptom that I've ever had. I think I read that

there was someone with MS who had numbness in her hands/arms

that went away slowly while taking Natural Cellular Defense.

Marc

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