Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

[Guest guest]

Well, that is all good but how do you keep yourself free from EMR? If we could

do that we could heal on our own. In this present day it seems unrealistic. Loni

From: <reader41@...>

Subject: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. Carlo was speaking in

London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, what causes

it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he

is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this

specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in a nutshell how

described it] and you have to go through these stages, and in this order, to go

about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we

should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages

involve. I later came across a paper by Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion

channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theory of the cellular communication

problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone

thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for

those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing

it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free

environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed

should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be

counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept

clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of

the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to

move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing

(weeks 1 – 3)

The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenal

glands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this

phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal

Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the

patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)

A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise

the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)

Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will

enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)

Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins

in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)

Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)

Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repair is

necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and

keeping the patient free from EMR.

[Guest guest]

Bravo, Loni.  You cut to the heart of the matter.  If we could eliminate emf,

we could all heal.  I read about the area of Dolan Springs, Az. as being the

ideal place, since it is far from large cities and in a delta area, which for

some reason also helps.  Has anyone experienced ideal areas across these United

States?

Mike in Phoenix

 

P.S.  Phoenix is not one of them!

From: <reader41ymail (DOT) com>

Subject: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

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Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. Carlo was speaking in

London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, what causes

it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he

is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this

specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in a nutshell how

described it] and you have to go through these stages, and in this order, to go

about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we

should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages

involve. I later came across a paper by Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion

channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theory of the cellular communication

problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone

thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for

those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing

it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free

environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed

should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be

counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept

clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of

the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to

move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing

(weeks 1 – 3)

The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenal

glands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this

phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal

Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the

patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)

A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise

the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)

Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will

enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)

Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins

in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)

Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)

Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repair is

necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and

keeping the patient free from EMR.

[Guest guest]

I know Loni - I'm not sure exactly how " free " from EMR you have to be since none

of us can avoid phone masts, wifi and cell phones etc - but I can see where he

is coming from in that he believes that EMR " maintains " the illness and

continues to feed the cell changes. A lot of other treatments I have come across

recently [and not just for ES] also specify that you must try to avoid EMR. I

suppose about the only places which would be free from EMR would be communities

established under his safe wireless initiative - if you google that you will

come to his site and there are several places which have deliberately tried to

stay EMR free.

 

That aspect aside, what I am wondering though is are a lot of us making things

worse for ourselves - in taking a whole batch of supplements in a desperate

attempt to give ourselves some relief from the symptoms which are unbearable for

us but could at the same time be blocking our ion channels and so preventing the

detoxing that we need to happen? It is very hard to know what to do without

expert help on this.

 

I'd still be interested in any thoughts anyone might have on this.

 

BW

 

Steph

From: <reader41ymail (DOT) com>

Subject: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

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Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. Carlo was speaking in

London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, what causes

it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he

is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this

specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in a nutshell how

described it] and you have to go through these stages, and in this order, to go

about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we

should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages

involve. I later came across a paper by Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion

channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theory of the cellular communication

problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone

thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for

those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing

it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free

environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed

should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be

counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept

clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of

the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to

move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing

(weeks 1 – 3)

The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenal

glands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this

phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal

Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the

patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)

A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise

the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)

Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will

enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)

Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins

in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)

Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)

Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repair is

necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and

keeping the patient free from EMR.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mike in Phoenix. I am Loni in Mesa. Ha. I've been to Snow Flake it seems to

be a great place but really out there. I know someone that just moved to Dolan

Springs & she is ES so I'll have to ask her how it is up there.

 

Loni

From: <reader41ymail (DOT) com>

Subject: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. Carlo was speaking in

London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, what causes

it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he

is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this

specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in a nutshell how

described it] and you have to go through these stages, and in this order, to go

about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we

should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages

involve. I later came across a paper by Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion

channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theory of the cellular communication

problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone

thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for

those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing

it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free

environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed

should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be

counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept

clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of

the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to

move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing

(weeks 1 – 3)

The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenal

glands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this

phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal

Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the

patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)

A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise

the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)

Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will

enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)

Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins

in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)

Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)

Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repair is

necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and

keeping the patient free from EMR.

[Guest guest]

Exactly Loni, I am aware that my symptoms disappear immediately when camping

far in the woods or on holidays in less RF infested places. 

 

I do not want dismiss his treatment but lets say we do this successfully

elsewhere, away from our current situations. Is he saying that when we come to

our " real life "  we should  be cured and not feel sick? If he is simply

saying, stay away from EMF forever and help yourself to undo the damage done

while you were exposed, he does not really understand this issue. 

 

From: <reader41ymail (DOT) com>

Subject: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. Carlo was speaking in

London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, what causes

it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he

is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this

specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in a nutshell how

described it] and you have to go through these stages, and in this order, to go

about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we

should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages

involve. I later came across a paper by Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion

channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theory of the cellular communication

problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone

thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for

those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing

it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free

environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed

should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be

counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept

clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of

the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to

move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing

(weeks 1 – 3)

The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenal

glands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this

phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal

Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the

patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)

A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise

the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)

Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will

enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)

Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins

in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)

Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)

Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repair is

necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and

keeping the patient free from EMR.

[Guest guest]

In my book he has no real credibility as far as treatment.

What is any of this based on? Probably just guesses.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:38 AM, <reader41@...>wrote:

>

>

> Hi everyone

>

> I came across this by accident the other night. Carlo was speaking

> in London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, what

> causes it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol

> he says he is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him

> is this specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in a

> nutshell how described it] and you have to go through these stages, and in

> this order, to go about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't

> this the way we should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what

> some of the stages involve. I later came across a paper by

> Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's

> theory of the cellular communication problem

>

> THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what

> anyone thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if

> possible for those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for

> assistance with doing it.

>

> West wishes

>

> Steph

>

> Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free

> environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments

> listed should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would

> be counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be

> kept clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for

> each part of the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a

> patient is ready to move to the next stage.

>

> 1. Neurological re-balancing

> (weeks 1 – 3)

> The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenal

> glands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this

> phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network

> Spinal Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this

> phase the patient stops taking all supplements.

>

> 2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)

> A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to

> energise the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

>

> 3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)

> Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins

> will enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

>

> 4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)

> Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the

> toxins in the interstitial space can be cleared.

>

> 5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)

> Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

>

> 6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)

> Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repair

> is necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition,

> and keeping the patient free from EMR.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> In my book he has no real credibility as far as treatment.

Yes, he's never seemed particularly credible to me. And

remember, we do occasionally see people who claim they've

cured themselves of ES, and they did not follow this

protocol (and probably also did not remove themselves

from all sources of EMF, either)

Marc

[Guest guest]

His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals burnt out

due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good now. LOni

>

>

> Hi everyone

>

> I came across this by accident the other night. Carlo was speaking

> in London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, what

> causes it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol

> he says he is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him

> is this specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in a

> nutshell how described it] and you have to go through these stages, and in

> this order, to go about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't

> this the way we should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what

> some of the stages involve. I later came across a paper by

> Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's

> theory of the cellular communication problem

>

> THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what

> anyone thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if

> possible for those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for

> assistance with doing it.

>

> West wishes

>

> Steph

>

> Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free

> environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments

> listed should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would

> be counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be

> kept clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for

> each part of the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a

> patient is ready to move to the next stage.

>

> 1. Neurological re-balancing

> (weeks 1 – 3)

> The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenal

> glands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this

> phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network

> Spinal Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this

> phase the patient stops taking all supplements.

>

> 2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)

> A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to

> energise the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

>

> 3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)

> Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins

> will enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

>

> 4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)

> Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the

> toxins in the interstitial space can be cleared.

>

> 5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)

> Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

>

> 6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)

> Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repair

> is necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition,

> and keeping the patient free from EMR.

>

> 

>

[Guest guest]

> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals

> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good

> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are

supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of

animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc

[Guest guest]

uk -

I know someone who is using the treatment program here in the uk, I will

kep you posted. I think there is mileage in dealing with the phychological

damage that accompanies ES, ie you feel,

cheated,persecuted,tormeted,patranised,misunderstood,pessimistic,angry, and a

whole lot more, certainly having

a break from your daily routine in a place that has low emf will help, but

you might find that all of the latter comes back with avengence when you

start to get burnt again trying to resume the normal daily life that you are

entitled to. and realise again how you are being cheated of you health amd

well being.

peace and love, peace and love peace and love..mmmmm its not working !

[Guest guest]

I can go away for a weekend & heal some, come back & do ok for a couple of days

and then boom I'm just back to where I was because the healing is not permenant

if you don't prevent the exposure or at least extreme exposure. Loni

From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

Subject: Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 2:07 AM

 

uk -

I know someone who is using the treatment program here in the uk, I will

kep you posted. I think there is mileage in dealing with the phychological

damage that accompanies ES, ie you feel,

cheated,persecuted, tormeted, patranised, misunderstood, pessimistic, angry, and

a whole lot more, certainly having

a break from your daily routine in a place that has low emf will help, but

you might find that all of the latter comes back with avengence when you

start to get burnt again trying to resume the normal daily life that you are

entitled to. and realise again how you are being cheated of you health amd

well being.

peace and love, peace and love peace and love..mmmmm its not working !

[Guest guest]

I've been trying with suppliments for a very long time to get them working to no

avail.

They say you need to avoid stress number 1. Well how can I do that with 6 to 8

cell antennas out my back window. I'm fried to death every day. So I still have

hope but am losing it because my body is just under too much stress on a day to

day basis.

 

Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:36 AM

 

> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals

> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good

> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are

supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of

animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Loni,

I did not realize all this time that you have such great exposure to cell

towers.

 

I was able to find a countryside spot about 70 km away from Toronto which is in

a very low RF zone so  I am moving permanently next week. Although I feel much

better now than 6 months ago I think that any serious (100%)  recovery might not

be possible if I am exposed to that stuff continously. 

 

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

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Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:36 AM

 

> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals

> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good

> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are

supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of

animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

In the article I read which I will try to post a link to, Carlo agrees that if

all we were to do was to go to somewhere where there is no EMF and our symptoms

seem to abate while it might give us respite while we are there - unless we do

more and actually try to treat the breakdown in cellular communication and try

to restore what should be proper cellular communication [via the protocol he

recommends] then when we return to a normal EMF laden environment the symptoms

will come back. This would mena that to have any quality of life we would have

to find an environment where we don't experience ES and then would be confined

to it - what he proposes is to try to treat the ES so that we are relatively

unaffected by the EMF. I have also just read something similar on ph

Mercola's website which I will try to post to this forum because it explains it

very well.I'm not trying to be controversial or critical of what other people

are trying - I am as

desperate for something effective as the next person and am merely posting what

I have come across to see what other people think.

 

Regards

 

Steph

 

From: <reader41ymail (DOT) com>

Subject: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. Carlo was speaking in

London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, what causes

it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he

is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this

specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in a nutshell how

described it] and you have to go through these stages, and in this order, to go

about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we

should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages

involve. I later came across a paper by Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion

channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theory of the cellular communication

problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone

thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for

those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing

it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free

environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed

should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be

counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept

clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of

the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to

move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing

(weeks 1 – 3)

The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenal

glands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this

phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal

Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the

patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)

A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise

the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)

Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will

enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)

Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins

in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)

Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)

Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repair is

necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and

keeping the patient free from EMR.

[Guest guest]

THanks - know exactly what you describe!! it would be interesting to know

how someone else gets on with that - I came across it via a lady called Patty

Hemmingway, a homeopath who had convened the meeting and invited him to speak to

the group of Essers. I am trying to devise my own DIY version of what he was

talking about to do whatever I can to get better and am trying to fill in some

of the blanks - like interstitial cleansing??? What he said also chimed with

recent research by Myhill in Bristol who treats environmental illness

espec ME/CFS and she belives that mitochondrial damage contributes to this

illness - which I'd say for a lot of people mimics ES but they don't realise it

and I think she also has a treatment protocol for it.

 

Regards

 

Steph

From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

Subject: Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

Date: Sunday, 16 August, 2009, 9:07 AM

 

uk -

I know someone who is using the treatment program here in the uk, I will

kep you posted. I think there is mileage in dealing with the phychological

damage that accompanies ES, ie you feel,

cheated,persecuted, tormeted, patranised, misunderstood, pessimistic, angry, and

a whole lot more, certainly having

a break from your daily routine in a place that has low emf will help, but

you might find that all of the latter comes back with avengence when you

start to get burnt again trying to resume the normal daily life that you are

entitled to. and realise again how you are being cheated of you health amd

well being.

peace and love, peace and love peace and love..mmmmm its not working !

[Guest guest]

Hi

 

Thats good that you have found a low EMF place to go. I hope it helps you.  I

toy with the idea of moving on a daily basis, but here in the UK you could move

- only to find up that a cell mast springs up after you move to the supposedly

EMF free area - they think it is kinder to the environment to " disguise " them as

trees etc which really aggravates me ,because if it wsn't harmful why would you

need to hide it from people?  I am finding that there are more and more places

that I can't go to.For example, I used to go to the beach about 20 miles away -

guess what the town installed WIFI all along the beach front. The local people

actually complained and cited Ollie Johansen's research to the local council and

the local council completely dismissed his work out of hand when being

interviewed on a radio programme about it. He is now suing the radio company and

the local council!!! Good for him! Some council no brain thought that she knew

more about the

issue than he did. That is what our environment is up against.

 

Regards

 

Steph

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

groups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:36 AM

 

> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals

> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good

> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are

supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of

animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph, That also happens here. We just can't escape it seems. I hope to get

better to at least have some energy to fight this horrible pollution to our

living space. Loni

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

groups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:36 AM

 

> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals

> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good

> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are

supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of

animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 16/08/2009 20:38:46 GMT Daylight Time,

reader41@... writes:

I've been trying with suppliments for a very long time to get them working

to no avail.

They say you need to avoid stress number 1. Well how can I do that with 6

to 8 cell antennas out my back window. I'm fried to death every day. So I

still have hope but am losing it because my body is just under too much

stress on a day to day basis.

Loni

uk replies - Certainly moving away from this evan for a relatively

short period should help to break the cycle of stress, the stress reaction

fuelled by anger, fear, frustration, and so on will probably have more of an

impact than the cell towers in the short term and also create a good ground

for deepening ES symptoms due to stress hormones which undoubtedly fuel the

ES reaction by effecting cell matabolism and reactive nervous system

responces.

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

 

I understand that Britain is a lost cause as far as EMF is concerned. I lived in

Surrey for many years and  still visit my sister. I always felt  lousy, just

thought I was Jetlaged or picked up a bug or whatever excuse I could find.

 

One thing you have going for you is your EU passport and your English language.

I would check out some other countries, south of France, Austria and Greece. I

have no kids so I am mobile and move every few years. I know it is not easy. I

hate to leave my condo and my friends in Toronto but I already wasted many years

feeling sick.

 

If my low RF place in Canada does not work out within one year, I am going back

to Croatia which is an absolute paradise as far as EMF is concerned. There are

many other issues there, but this is not one them. I see that many Brits,

Irish, German and even some Americans live there now. The world has gotten

smaller.

 

In fact, I read the most interested thing, in Croatia they had to REMOVE

some cell towers because they had no way of maintaining them. They could not

justify the cost any longer because there were not enough users in that

particular area.

 

 And yet everyone has a cellphone over there too.....

 

From: Marc <marcufoseries (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

groups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 8:36 AM

 

> His first treatment was stabalize adrenal hormones. Well, my adrenals

> burnt out due to exposures years ago & I am on steroids probably for good

> now.

Maybe, although there are various supplements on the market that are

supposed to help rebuild the adrenal glands over time (extracts of

animal adrenal glands, or herbs like licorice and rehmannia)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi Loni, I cannot remember  if  you tried Earth calm plug in thing. For three

years I was on 25 mg of Cortisol hormone and adrenal glandular called " adrenal

rebuilder " from Dr. . I dropped both a week after I plugged in

Earthcalm. I also wear the anklet bracelet but I do not think that is as

helpfull because when I experimented and  unplugged the device,(stupid decision

) I got all of my symptoms back in an hour.

  

From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

Subject: Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

Received: Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:44 AM

 

In a message dated 16/08/2009 20:38:46 GMT Daylight Time,

reader41ymail (DOT) com writes:

I've been trying with suppliments for a very long time to get them working

to no avail.

They say you need to avoid stress number 1. Well how can I do that with 6

to 8 cell antennas out my back window. I'm fried to death every day. So I

still have hope but am losing it because my body is just under too much

stress on a day to day basis.

Loni

uk replies - Certainly moving away from this evan for a relatively

short period should help to break the cycle of stress, the stress reaction

fuelled by anger, fear, frustration, and so on will probably have more of an

impact than the cell towers in the short term and also create a good ground

for deepening ES symptoms due to stress hormones which undoubtedly fuel the

ES reaction by effecting cell matabolism and reactive nervous system

responces.

[Guest guest]

Yes , there is an emotional component to this and to me it was always a

sense of time lost on my couch when I should have been getting my business of

the ground. I called the last ten years of my life " the lost decade "   and Marlon

Brando echoes in my head " I could have been a contender. "  The most painful is

when others call me " hypochondriac. "

 

 

 

From: paulpjc@... <paulpjc@...>

Subject: Re: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

Received: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 2:07 AM

 

uk -

I know someone who is using the treatment program here in the uk, I will

kep you posted. I think there is mileage in dealing with the phychological

damage that accompanies ES, ie you feel,

cheated,persecuted, tormeted, patranised, misunderstood, pessimistic, angry, and

a whole lot more, certainly having

a break from your daily routine in a place that has low emf will help, but

you might find that all of the latter comes back with avengence when you

start to get burnt again trying to resume the normal daily life that you are

entitled to. and realise again how you are being cheated of you health amd

well being.

peace and love, peace and love peace and love..mmmmm its not working !

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

 

Thanks for clarifying this for me, I was also not being critical toward your

posting just wondering what he meant by go away and fix yourself. Absolutely,

like you I would trying anything at this point, so no hard feelings.

 

I also learned something from your clarification. Although I feel better away

from here I still need to work on the cellular damage recovery because we are

damaged goods, so to speak...I read somewhere that we have DNA damage but I

refused to accept it, the reality is sinking in now.  I feel so good far away

form  the city, towers, and computers that it is hard to think therapy when you

are feeling normal. Maybe when I am in my new countryside place I would be able

to try some of this.

 

This guy might be a little too technical for me so it would take me some

time to decipher interstitial, mitochondrial etc. I am kind of more of a give me

something to plug in to my wall kind of girl. OK, now I am laughing at myself

here :-) Have to go.

 

 

From: <reader41ymail (DOT) com>

Subject: GEORGE CARLO'S ES TREATMENT PROTOCOL

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:38 AM

 

Hi everyone

I came across this by accident the other night. Carlo was speaking in

London to a group of ES people about what ES is, how to diagnose it, what causes

it and how it can be treated. Set out below is the treatment protocol he says he

is using and working on. It seems to me that if someone like him is this

specific, that if it is a cellular communications problem [in a nutshell how

described it] and you have to go through these stages, and in this order, to go

about fixing it then if we want to treat our ES then isn't this the way we

should go about it? I just wish he was a bit clearer on what some of the stages

involve. I later came across a paper by Goldsworthy, also on calcium ion

channels and his work echoed Dr Carlo's theory of the cellular communication

problem

THis is the protcol Dr Carlo described. I'd be interested to know what anyone

thinks about it and how we could put together a DIY version if possible for

those who can't afford to visit various practicioners for assistance with doing

it.

West wishes

Steph

Dr Carlo stressed the importance of the patient remaining in an EMR free

environment at all times during treatment, and that only the treatments listed

should be used, and the sequence adhered to. Other supplements would be

counterproductive, he explained, because the ion-channels needed to be kept

clear to allow cellular detoxing. Average time scales are given for each part of

the treatment, and regular checks and tests determine when a patient is ready to

move to the next stage.

1. Neurological re-balancing

(weeks 1 – 3)

The aim is to stabilise DHEA and cortisol (hormones produced by the adrenal

glands and considered to be markers of systemic stress). Treatments in this

phase include yoga, massage, meditation, and therapies such as Network Spinal

Analysis to calm and balance the central nervous system. During this phase the

patient stops taking all supplements.

2. Ion-channel opening (weeks 2 – 6)

A form of supplemental magnesium chelated with amino acids is given to energise

the mitochondria and encourage the ion-channels to re-open.

3. Mitochondrial enhancement (weeks 3 – 6)

Mitochondrial function needs to be enhanced at this stage or more toxins will

enter the cells through the newly opened ion-channels.

4. Interstitial cleansing (weeks 6 – 8)

Once the ion-channels are open and the mitochondria are healthy, then the toxins

in the interstitial space can be cleared.

5. Intracellular detoxification (weeks 8 – 12)

Now it is safe to allow the release of toxins from within the cells.

6 Cell membrane re-building (months 3 – 18)

Symptoms will have subsided by this point, but an extended period of repair is

necessary to re-build cell membranes, using supplements and nutrition, and

keeping the patient free from EMR.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 17/08/2009 22:02:53 GMT Daylight Time, stcro@...

writes:

This guy might be a little too technical for me so it would take me

some time to decipher interstitial, mitochondrial etc. I am kind of more

of a give me something to plug in to my wall kind of girl. OK, now I am

laughing at myself here :-) Have to go.

uk replies - I have met in the UK, he strikes me as a man that

has his heart in what he says his work on cellular effects seems pretty

feasible and reflects alot of research done by others accross the globe ie

pointing to cellular damage. Sadly as we are aware low EMF, and rare still no

EMF areas are as rare as hens teeth, but we should all campaign for the

right to have such freedoms, which are rapidly being taken from us. Slowly

gently catch the monkey !

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 17/08/2009 17:13:31 GMT Daylight Time, stcro@...

writes:

Yes , there is an emotional component to this and to me it was always

a sense of time lost on my couch when I should have been getting my

business of the ground. I called the last ten years of my life " the lost

decade "

and Marlon Brando echoes in my head " I could have been a contender. " The

most painful is when others call me " hypochondriac.T

Yes same here to the letter, I spent 10 years educating myself as a

Building Surveyor got a degree got good jobs, lost the lot as I have been

out of the game for nearly a year now. The classic for me is others who

taunt me about my wife working while I am not (although looking after 2 kids

and trying to make a few quid here and there is a full time job) yesterday

evening at a party one twat talked about his bad back, saying that he would

carry on until he dropped for the sake of his family, he was looking at me

at the time - If only we could give these people a taste of being ES for a

few days. Oh and the final insult I have on a few occassions played back

via a small set of speakers through my open window the sound picked up on an

AM radio from a plasma TV that swamps the area when its on, the sound is

like a fax on the AM radio, well 2 of the locals asked me what that awful

sound was they could barely stand it, I said imagine you were exposed to that

but only you can hear the sound, they still did not get it ! selfish

ba...rds !

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 17/08/2009 16:19:54 GMT Daylight Time, stcro@...

writes:

Hi Steph,

I understand that Britain is a lost cause as far as EMF is concerned. I

lived in Surrey for many years and still visit my sister. I always felt

lousy, just thought I was Jetlaged or picked up a bug or whatever excuse I

could find.

paul uk replies - I live in surrey and yes its getting worse, but I still

get by there is lots of open countryside to get away to.