Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 Hi Sorry, it just seemed like all of your messages of late was disparaging towards the centrifuge method. Actually, I live in Oklahoma in the USA, anyone that's ever been here knows it's hot, hot, hot in the summer!! My five gallon bucket of oil has been liquid since early spring. It will harden come November most likely, December at the latest. I agree that any oil with a significant amount of moisture will deteriorate more quickly, but I see no confirmation that centrifuge has a high enough moisture content to deteriate it. I think that it is very possible that TT's oil might have more moisture in it than centrifuge even as it seems to develop that catch in the throat quickly versus any centrifuge that I have ever tried never did. Caitlin Lorraine Caitlin, I am not and have no intentions of misleading anyone. Neither am I maligning centrifuged oil. First of all I was referring to Selina's previous post. Secondly, any oil with moisture in it would not last very long. It would go stale no matter what process you used. This is the reason why Selina is giving her centrifuged oil the " vacuum " treatment. Centrifuged oil still has some moisture left in it. That is a fact. Even if you have it tested. You just don't notice it. The smell of a coconut oil with moisture is just so different from moistureless coconut oil :-). I don't know where you are, but maybe one of the reasons why your centrifuged oil does not change is because it is constantly in solid state or cold temp. But leave it covered in a warm room (at least 80-85F) in liquid form, and i doubt very much it would stay as good after a few months. As to TT's oil, I do not know which type of process he uses that causes catch in the throat. He has both the expeller pressed and the traditional with low heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 Hi Caitlin, Centrifuged oil should have lowest moisture content than any other process, however, one has to keep in mind that it does not remove moisture 100%. Probably depending on type and age of centrifuge machine used, some has lesser or more water than the other. Proper use of low heat technique should rid the oil of water. Another technique is to vacuum process the oil like Selina does. Our very own vacuum technique removes the moisture very well. Hubby applies this proces with very fresh virgin oil which has no odor at all. Yet upon opening the container, you will be met by a strong odor together with the released moisture. It does not use heat. It works very well if you do it in liquid form. There are other very good techniques which I can't mention because they are being used by some producers and it is their trade secets. I just happen to know because they are family. The catch in the throat is most likely from the moisture in the oil which is slowly becoming rancid. The oil was heated for a very very short time probably. Centrifuge cont.... Hi Sorry, it just seemed like all of your messages of late was disparaging towards the centrifuge method. Actually, I live in Oklahoma in the USA, anyone that's ever been here knows it's hot, hot, hot in the summer!! My five gallon bucket of oil has been liquid since early spring. It will harden come November most likely, December at the latest. I agree that any oil with a significant amount of moisture will deteriorate more quickly, but I see no confirmation that centrifuge has a high enough moisture content to deteriate it. I think that it is very possible that TT's oil might have more moisture in it than centrifuge even as it seems to develop that catch in the throat quickly versus any centrifuge that I have ever tried never did. Caitlin Lorraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2004 Report Share Posted October 1, 2004 " There are other very good techniques which I can't mention because they are being used by some producers and it is their trade secets. I just happen to know because they are family. " > > Does of TT buy from your family that produces coconut oil? That would explain why ya'll are such good friends? Just curious Caitlin Lorraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2004 Report Share Posted October 2, 2004 and , I hope that you'll get to try the centrifuge oil that i am marketing. I also want to try yours as well. Hope to meet both of you soon. I am also coming out with another supplier from Davao that uses quick dried, low heat prcoess. Thanks Selina Thanks --- Kho <khoalex@...> wrote: > Hello , > > Have you looked into the procedure being taught by > our > Dept of S & T (DOST-ITDI) to their trainees on > producing > VCO? It uses centrifugal machine, low heat, > filtering, > vacumn drying, etc.. > > Let me know in private if you are interested in > learning about the DOST-ITDI process. I'm currently > doing a government volunteer service to help our > ITDI > trainees. > > I do not know what is so secretive about using > vacumn > drying to remove the moisture from the oil. We heat > the oil under vacumn so there is no need to do it at > high temperature. That is how we were taught in our > science class. We use centrifuge so we can easily > separate materials of different densities (light > materials from the heavy materials), that is how we > were taught in our chemistry class. Coming from > someone with a Chemical Engineering background and a > wife who is a nutritionist, whom I met in some food > technology classes during our college days. > > I think the difficulty in our discussion is that we > talk of low moisture content without mention of any > specific percentage of moisture. Is it below 0.1%, > 0.2%, 0.3% and so on? How low is low mositure? And > how > high is high moisture? How more is more moisture? > What > is the tolerable and acceptable moisture content in > our oil? > > Some of us do manufacture our own oil. I'd welcome > testimonies from users of your oil. Even if it were > you own account. Not simply because our own oil uses > vacumn technique (whatever that is) or centrifuge > and > so on. > > For instance, our choir master (I belong to the St. > Parish Choir inside Ayala Alabang) had sore > eyes and I gave him VCO to apply on his own eyes. > Two > days after, his sore eyes were gone. That is what he > told me. > > So when do we meet to talk about the uses of VCO? > Maybe we should be swapping VCOs. What do you think? > I > have close to 20 bottles from different vendors, > including 2 from Selina. > > Again, let me know if you are interested in the ITDI > procedure of making VCO. > > Best regards, > > K. > Metro Manila,Philippines > > --- P & M Banagal <pbanagal@...> wrote: > > > Hi Caitlin, > > > > Centrifuged oil should have lowest moisture > content > > than any other process, however, one has to keep > in > > mind that it does not remove moisture 100%. > > Probably depending on type and age of centrifuge > > machine used, some has lesser or more water than > the > > other. Proper use of low heat technique should > rid > > the oil of water. Another technique is to vacuum > > process the oil like Selina does. Our very own > > vacuum technique removes the moisture very well. > > Hubby applies this proces with very fresh virgin > > oil which has no odor at all. Yet upon opening > the > > container, you will be met by a strong odor > together > > with the released moisture. It does not use heat. > > > It works very well if you do it in liquid form. > > There are other very good techniques which I can't > > mention because they are being used by some > > producers and it is their trade secets. I just > > happen to know because they are family. > > > > The catch in the throat is most likely from the > > moisture in the oil which is slowly becoming > > rancid. The oil was heated for a very very short > > time probably. > > > > > > > > Centrifuge > > cont.... > > > > Hi > > Sorry, it just seemed like all of your messages > of > > late was > > disparaging towards the centrifuge method. > > Actually, I live in Oklahoma in the USA, anyone > > that's ever been here > > knows it's hot, hot, hot in the summer!! My > > five gallon bucket of > > oil has been liquid since early spring. It will > > harden come November > > most likely, December at the latest. I agree > that > > any oil with a > > significant amount of moisture will deteriorate > > more quickly, but I > > see no confirmation that centrifuge has a high > > enough moisture content > > to deteriate it. > > I think that it is very possible that TT's oil > > might have more > > moisture in it than centrifuge even as it seems > to > > develop that catch > > in the throat quickly versus any centrifuge that > I > > have ever tried > > never did. > > Caitlin Lorraine > > > > > > > _______________________________ > Do you ? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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